Should Confirmed Opt-In Be Disabled?

9 years ago

I am not using confirmed optin as you can see from your data, most of the people do not complete the process. But again, you have to decide what type of list you want.

I have disabled it for freebie seekers, as they enter into funnel. But with buyers list, I would like to confirmed optin and treat them separably.

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sprice

9 years ago

Disable confirmed optin. It will cost you $$$ if you don't.

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BigFrank Banned 9 years ago

Sure - nothing like spending time and money marketing to people that weren't seriously enough interested in your offering that they wouldn't even confirm their sign-up? Just how does that add any value to your list? Talk about outsmarting yourself. lol

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trobo

9 years ago

Yes it is a good idea to go with single opt-in. Think about it this way, you want to eliminate as many obstacles in the path as possible. The quicker you can begin interacting with your list, the better.

Some will make the argument that you get a higher quality list with double opt-in. However, I believe the draw backs outweigh the benefits.

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mentat47

9 years ago

Originally Posted by trobo

Yes it is a good idea to go with single opt-in. Think about it this way, you want to eliminate as many obstacles in the path as possible. The quicker you can begin interacting with your list, the better.

Some will make the argument that you get a higher quality list with double opt-in. However, I believe the draw backs outweigh the benefits.

Yeah, that's good advice. You don't want to give them an excuse to go the other way.

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sagwa02

9 years ago

Yea, I disabled it.

I think its better to make things easier on my readers. Based on information from Google Analytics most of my subscribers are between the ages of 34 to 44. So I'm thinking if I disable the opt-in more people will get access to it.

BigFrank I see your point. These people who do not opt-in probably are not the best leads. But i'm sure a small percentage will convert so I don't think I should alienate them.

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discrat 9 years ago

From my experience, going with the Single Optin by far enables you to profit more in the long run than Confirmed Optin.

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Lucian Lada

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sagwa02

These people who do not opt-in probably are not the best leads.

Or maybe you haven't explained them very clearly that they need to confirm their subscription in order to get anything from you. I'm not saying that this is the reason, but it's worth analyzing.

Originally Posted by affilorama-portal

You need to be extremely careful that you manage the number of complaints that you get. The threshold for most email providers is 0.1%. If you start to go above that, you'll risk having your email account banned. This makes the beginning stages of your email marketing campaign crucial to manage because you don't have a large number of emails to "buffer" with, as 0.1% is 1 email in every 1,000 emails. A lot of people on Warrior Forum say they have used other techniques besides double opt-in to manage spam complaints such as reminding the recipient that they opted in to receive the emails.

Asking people to confirm a subscription doesn't necessarily help reduce spam complaints. An ESP doesn't care if the spam complaint comes from someone who confirmed their subscription, or from someone who wasn't required to confirm.

Regarding reminding people who you are, yes, that's a very good way of reducing spam complaints. I like to say not only who I am, but also on which site they've subscribed, and sometimes even the date, just so they see they asked to receive the emails.

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DonteEvans

9 years ago

single optin!

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affilorama-portal

9 years ago

The general consensus on the Warrior Forum is to disable confirmed opt-in to increase the number of leads that you get.

At Affilorama we have confirmed opt-in. But we also have extremely large lists that need to be managed, and we find that confirmed opt-in works best for us.

You need to be extremely careful that you manage the number of complaints that you get. The threshold for most email providers is 0.1%. If you start to go above that, you'll risk having your email account banned. This makes the beginning stages of your email marketing campaign crucial to manage because you don't have a large number of emails to "buffer" with, as 0.1% is 1 email in every 1,000 emails. A lot of people on Warrior Forum say they have used other techniques besides double opt-in to manage spam complaints such as reminding the recipient that they opted in to receive the emails.

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sagwa02

9 years ago

Originally Posted by affilorama-portal

The general consensus on the Warrior Forum is to disable confirmed opt-in to increase the number of leads that you get.

At Affilorama we have confirmed opt-in. But we also have extremely large lists that need to be managed, and we find that confirmed opt-in works best for us.

You need to be extremely careful that you manage the number of complaints that you get. The threshold for most email providers is 0.1%. If you start to go above that, you'll risk having your email account banned. This makes the beginning stages of your email marketing campaign crucial to manage because you don't have a large number of emails to "buffer" with, as 0.1% is 1 email in every 1,000 emails. A lot of people on Warrior Forum say they have used other techniques besides double opt-in to manage spam complaints such as reminding the recipient that they opted in to receive the emails.

Thanks. I never thought about this fact.