Cell Phone Cash

Shaun Lee · 09-01-2009, 08:46 AM

This is a product from the creator of MaverickMoneyMakers(MMM), Mack Michaels.

What do you think about the product? It looks real good; And check out the 2nd video where he reveals his ClickBank account. Smoking hot account!

The non-Link:
http://cellphonecash.maverickcoaching.com/offers/index.php

I want to know what you think, and I am NOT promoting this offer.

Interesting Assessment:

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnlineMarketingSys

Let's end this Tomfoolery /n pl : 1. Foolish bahavior 2. Something trivial or foolish;nonsense Directly from Admob- This system is fundamentally flawed and will NOT work.

So let's get down to examining this system, along with the support staff from Admob and their response in their own words. So the creator of this system reports astonishing results, which all but one person here has been unable to reproduce. So who's right and who's wrong? And what does the advertising network say (remember these are the guy's that have all the numbers and stats). We'll look at all of this, as well as the question "why does my advertising budget get exhausted in 5-60 minutes, when none of my adwords campaigns or ppc campaigns do"

Here is Admob's answer Taken from their official support - Google Group.

AdMob Advertiser Discuss | Google Groups (From the topic:
Advertiser Best Practices When Promoting Free vs. Paid Applications Options)

or directly from Admob's site AdMob - Help

"There are essentially two types of applications an advertiser can advertise, Free or Paid. Depending on the application, conversion rates for free apps are typically around 10%, but vary from 5-20% depending on the app. This means that for every 100 people who click on your advertisement, roughly 10 will install your app."

So in other words, if I am giving away my application it's going to cost me roughtly $3.00 to aquire 10 new users or $30 to aquire 100 new users. So let's say we have a email submit offer, after scrubbing (were likely going to be left with 6/10 leads if not less). So we hopefully would make $6 - $3 for advertising = $3.00 Net. Now that is if we are lucky!

Even worse: For the Clickbank method that has been advised to us:

"Historically, conversion rates are far lower for paid apps with generally only 1% of clicks converting into paid customers. This means that for every 100 people who click on your advertisement, roughly 1 will install your app. For many paid apps, this may result in a cost per acquisition that may be higher than the sales price of the app. "

Ok, one word that comes to mind is WOW. Now to examine this: The first thing to notice is these are for applications, meaning the customer only has to click on the application and their purchase is electronically debited from the Apps store. So no entering customer information, credit card info, ect on a small mobile device. Not to mention most of these paid applications are between 99cents-$5.00 max. We are asking customers to pay in some cases 10 times as much...

So guess what folks, in our case the conversion rate is going to be even less that 1%, if we are lucky maybe a .5% or less. OUCH!

But for illustration purposes let's say we spend $50 in advertising and see what we are left with.

$50 = 1250 clicks at .04 cents. Which should give us 12 sales roughly. Now keep in mind the average cost of an application in the App store is $0.99

So we effectively spent $50 to make $12. Resulting in a NET LOSS of $38. Which closely matches what Admob's own support group mentioned :For many paid apps, this may result in a cost per acquisition that may be higher than the sales price of the app.

Second let's examine the leads:
Users have been reporting that $50 in leads get blown away almost instantly. Whereas most adwords campaigns run for at least a day. So clearly the leads are very untargetted, and don't convert. Just think - how does 100,000 impressions get made within minutes it's astonishing. Here are just a few recaps of users experiences. You can find more if you Google "Admob results".

1st Candidate:
The ad was live for about 30 minutes. It received
26,815 impressions
with 200 clicks resulting in an average
CTR of 0.75% with an average
CPC of $0.50.

On Thursday, I received the sales numbers for Wednesday's BlackBook sales. They were a disappointing 16 sales. We average about that or more per day for the BlackBook, without the ads. Since we sell the BlackBook for 99 cents, we only make 70 cents per sale. With 16 sales, we made $11.20. $11.20 minus the $100 in ads, turns out to an $88.80 loss on the campaign.

2nd Candidate:
ran an ad in the US only.
He promoted a game that cost $0.99

Day before: 11 sales.
584 Clicks and $29.20 poorer ...
Next day 6 sales.
Conversion rate -5 ?
NET RESULT : LOSS ON CAMPAIGN

3rd Candidate:
What were the results?:
Targeted us: 20cents per click
Impressions: 45,000
Clicks 200
Cost $50

Non targetted :$0.04 click
Impressions: 178,418
Clicks 1,159
CTR 0.65%
Cost $50.00

Not so bad I thought, but… wait a minute, how many people bought your app?, you might think. What is the return of my investment with admob? The results are nothing but simply INCREDIBLE. The sales of my $100 USD Advertising campaign were: 2

So let me Ask you a question Admob…. Do you mean that after I’ve spent ONE HUNDRED BUCKS in advertising with you, I get $1.4 USD???? NET LOSS $98.60

Recap:

So if your going to invest in this system, just remember that your actions may be Tomfoolery. No one here has reported earnings from using this system (other than stephan and he's advertising the product), nor does Admobs own support group using their mathmatical and quantitative factual evidence support this system.

I personally would love to see someone actually prove both Admobs and my assessment wrong. But until more people start reporting positive results or someone can vouch for the campaigns. We are left with both the facts and figures that the ad network provided and the thousands of dollars they have watched of advertising flow through their netowrks.

kbs · 09-01-2009, 10:38 AM

I recieved the same e-mail today and I imagine it will be pushed by all the Gurus. I would be careful w/ clickbank stats, I've never been the same since I've been shown how easily they can be faked. But I do agree that the idea is noteworthy.

dozierdd · 09-01-2009, 01:18 PM

I think cell phone cash could be pretty huge. I joined it yesterday when I received the email and have already made a couple dollars promoting it. The cell phone industry is going to do nothing but grow and cell phone cash offers a great way to tap into it.

maverick4u · 09-01-2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dozierdd

I think cell phone cash could be pretty huge. I joined it yesterday when I received the email and have already made a couple dollars promoting it. The cell phone industry is going to do nothing but grow and cell phone cash offers a great way to tap into it.

Do you mean you made a couple of dollars selling the Cell Phone Cash system or actually using it to promote a product? I'm interested in learning if anyone has actually used it as a marketing medium to sucessfully promote a product.

Augydog · 09-01-2009, 02:09 PM

I think the program has a lot of potential, I'm about to join, just want to see what the process that's involved and what I can leverage & learn.

femchie2 · 09-01-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dozierdd

I think cell phone cash could be pretty huge. I joined it yesterday when I received the email and have already made a couple dollars promoting it. The cell phone industry is going to do nothing but grow and cell phone cash offers a great way to tap into it.

Hmm since 2008, you're just making your first post...and that is to tell us you joined and have made money promoting it? Can you at least tell us more about what the concept is without giving too much away? That would be great.

Femi

Zach Booker · 09-01-2009, 02:53 PM

Maverick Money Makers - Project CPA 2.0

I can't comment on this course; but the reviews are mixed for his previous product.

Regardless though that is one serious clickbank account. Very inspirational.

Zach

stefanjames · 09-01-2009, 03:05 PM

I'm loving the course. I bought the coaching course today and already started making money. The cell phone market is a huge industry. What I've done is followed the fast action videos. Will take you about an hour or so to watch and quickly applied what was being taught.

There are about 7 different modules with videos attached it. It's very well put together and organized.

I combined the cell phone marketing strategy being taught with a cpa offer and it's working wonderfully. So I recommend you try it. Only $25. Honest review of cell phone cash.

neuline · 09-01-2009, 03:20 PM

Hi everyone,

I bought the Cell Phone Cash system today and I'm still fuming. Never have I been so mad at a IM offer. In my opinion, the ad for this course is extremely misleading, if not at total lie. But that's my opinion and I'll let you be the judge of that. If bringing out the facts of this marketing sham gets me banned from the forum, then so be it. I'm just writing the truth and I think that the other members of this forum have the right to hear that truth and make their own minds up.

In his ad, Michaels says that the cost of the course, which consists of 7 modules, is $24.97. He then goes on to say (and I quote) "All that for only $24.97, and you'll also get new training modules each and every month for just $24.97 to always keep you ahead of the game."

Remember that word "also" in the above quote? Well, guess what? When you sign up, you only get one of the 7 training modules that he promised. The other six are those "new training modules" that he talked about and they will be opened on a timed sequence throughout the next 3 months.

Obviously, those "new training modules" are, in reality, the original course modules (you know - the ones that you paid the original $25.00 dollars for). This actually makes the cost of the course $100.00 (the first $25.00 and then 3 other payments to cover the 90-day period).

Now, if he wanted to charge $100.00 for the course, fine. Just tell me that, and I can then make my mind up about it. Just don't tell that the course is $25.00 and then withhold the course from me until I fork over another $75.00. Talk about extortion!

I was also perturbed by this marketing ploy because I'm in some tough financial straits right now and I need to get money NOW - not 100 days from now. I guess that the millionaire "gurus" just don't get that part of it.

At any rate, I'm done with my rant. I just wanted everyone else to know the truth (or lack thereof) about the ad. And this is too bad because, from what I can see from the first module, this has the potential to be a very good course. Its only his marketing ploy that I have a problem with. I hope this helps.

femchie2 · 09-01-2009, 03:29 PM

...well let's just hope you don't get banned.

But thanks for letting us know about the structure of the modules...even though another person said they got all 7 modules. Interesting!

Femi

stefanjames · 09-01-2009, 03:29 PM

You get 7 training videos upfront so you can get started making money right away and so you don't get confused jumping around to different modules. I actually think it's pretty smart to do it that way to keep people focused.

dozierdd · 09-01-2009, 03:56 PM

femchie2,

Hey I saw a comment here about the product while searching for something else on google and since I had just purchased it I thought I'd drop my two cents.

The product has a lot of potential. As you can imagine the cell phone industry is huge and to have the insight on how to tap into this market with affiliate products is great.

I saw where neuline commented about the product modules and that information is false. You start with module 1 and you are served 1 new module every 7 days. So if you are actually working the program and not trying to skip through it, you get a week to complete a module before the next module is made available. It's just like in school when the teacher asked you to read chapter 1 and learn it before skimming through the rest of the book and think you know it all.

Yes the money that I have made wasn't from cell phones, but from the actual cell phone cash product affiliate program. Affiliate marketing is what I do, so when I saw this I invested in it to learn and started marketing it to share. But earning some money within 12hrs of purchasing the product is a good testament to how marketable this is going to be.

I don't use PPC so in order to get on the bus organically you must move fast. I don't know how long I can hold it but if you put "Cell Phone Cash Review" into google my article holds top rank. Of course by the end of the day it might be gone, but at least I've gotten a few sales from my efforts.

neuline · 09-01-2009, 04:34 PM

Well praise the Lord,

When I read the comment from dozierdd about my being incorrect about the timetable for receiving the modules, I girded my loins and went back to the course site to get myself armed with the truth upon my return to this forum, ready to do battle defending what I had written in my previous reply (aka my rant). But, alas, I found that Michaels does, indeed, read this forum because the time sequence was modified to work as dozierdd said. A new module will be opened every seven days.

I would guess that more people than myself complained about the set-up of the course, and this prompted Michaels to back off from his incredible position. I presume that there will also be some adjustment on his ad site also.

I'm still not really happy with the new time table because I really need this info right now. I mean, when I buy a gallon of milk, I don't expect a quart of milk to be delivered to my door for the next four weeks. What's with that?

Finally, just for the record, yes, I can handle 7 WHOLE modules at one time and not be thrown into a catatonic state, wondering the streets, confused, disoriented, bewildered.

Now, admittedly, that's how I DO act when the Cardinals lose a close one to the Cubs, but that's just me. Again, I hoped that this helped.

JoeC · 09-01-2009, 05:04 PM

What If you're new to IM ( that be me ) in general, can you still start making money fast?A few members have
posted stating they made money right off. Is this because they have a good size list to market to already?
I guess what I'm asking is, ya think Cell Phone Cash will work for a noob with no list to market to?

stefanjames · 09-01-2009, 05:09 PM

I understand where you are coming from neuline. I'm a pretty fast learner myself and have already went through the videos, applied the techniques, and I'm already making money using these methods.

I'm ready for the next methods as well but I can be patient and just concentrate on exploding the techniques laid out in the first 7 days. I think its a well put together concept.

Good luck to you

WealthWinners · 09-01-2009, 06:58 PM

I actually stumbled on the first 2 posts to this thread this morning when I started researching this program.

I decided to jump on as an affiliate, but more importantly I wanted to see what was "inside", as I wanted to write a real review by actually using it. So I took the plunge.

Now I will say up front, I am not a fan of looooong sales pages. So I watched the vids, and skimmed. I didn't catch the part about it being monthly until I actually had clicked to buy. My bad, but I knew when I hit submit what I was getting....or so I thought.

It wasn't until after I got signed in that I realized that I won't get to see the other modules, until they allow me too on a weekly basis. That kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Not because of the money, because truthfully, if it is only 7 or 8 weeks, that is still only $50.

And if I can make real money from this process, it would be worth it.

My issue is that I am not patient. I need to see the rest NOW. I have already watched all of module one and want more. In fact, I actually decided to implement the program, and plunked down an additional $50 for the advertising (the service they recommend).

So I decided to just blog my progress. Yes, my blog is riddled with affiliate links, but I am only going to post honest opinions based on the actual usage of the program. Hopefully it will help if anyone wants more insight over the next few weeks.

Cell Phone Cash Mojo

Incidentally, I did send in a support ticket to ask if there was a way to get access to the rest of the modules. I will report back what I find.

Oh, and to answer about being a complete noob...if you have no idea what CB or PPC stands for, you may want to consider something else to start.

By the way, while the program doesn't charge any additional fees, that doesn't mean that there aren't additional fees elsewhere.

I don't want to sound negative, because I DO believe this will be a good program. It all depends on if the rest of the modules can deliver the goods.

Sorry for such a long post.

billybob2727 · 09-01-2009, 08:03 PM

Do you have to pay any additional cost (besides the cost of the course) to make any money with these methods?

l23bc · 09-01-2009, 08:29 PM

excuse me for tapping into this conversation but i am a old mack micheals student at maverick money makers and he is just doing what he normally does with that softwere no bashing intended or ment please let me explain

with maverick money makers he had a few tactics he shown and promised a few new videos the following month or so to come, saying his had to upload then it became maverick money makers 2.0 and some of the old stuff his students waited for ages to see the follow on to the tactics he used however some videos never got released for months and thats why i left the course, i did make from maverick 2k in clickbank affilates as i was one of the first to sign up i beleive,

but if your a noobie dont go running into something to wait and wait and wait try the 30 day challenge and save your cash? if your stuck for money please i dont want to see you waiting for some video that puts the peaces to the puzzles later rather then sooner, and for 100 bucks you could get a good few articles written and make traffic to pay you cash

yes mobile phone industry is a big industry and i should know i used to work for 02uk and vodafone and the carphone warehouse and the commision i made as a sales agents was huge in retentations here in the u.k when customer's signed up for 18 month contracts,

but to the people that say they have made money i like to ask for some proof,

neuline · 09-01-2009, 09:52 PM

Hi everyone,

Just got back to the computer and have read some of the posts that have been put up the last couple of hours.

To Stefanjames, I just want to say that I appreciate your feedback and hope that you didn't take any offense at my comments about the course. Like you, I think that, ultimately, its a well thought-out concept. Unlike you, however, I'm a pretty impatient guy. (I guess you caught that, though.)

WealthWinners, you say: "So I watched the vids, and skimmed. I didn't catch the part about it being monthly until I actually had clicked to buy."

Of course you didn't. Because he planned it that way. Like you, the 7-week thing rubs me the wrong way. Quite frankly, I'm tired of the sellers (oh, I'm sorry. The GURUS) treating us like we've got the intelligence of a Kumquat and the intestinal fortitude of the daisies of the field. Also like you, the $25.00 is not the issue.

With that said, let's look at his "guarantee". He says: "If during your first 60 days of my coaching, you're not happy with the program for any reason then ask for your money back and you will get a full refund of your enrollment fee with no questions or hassles whatsoever."

Well, smack my face. Let's look a little closer at that guarantee, shall we? By the time that the 60 days rolls around, we will have given him $75.00 but he'll give us our $25.00 "enrollment fee" back, which means that he'll pocket $50.00. Hhmmmm……….so much for his "Make money or its free" guarantee. Unless he believes that his keeping our $50.00 is "free" to us.

Just my thoughts.

WealthWinners · 09-01-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neuline

With that said, let's look at his "guarantee". He says: "If during your first 60 days of my coaching, you're not happy with the program for any reason then ask for your money back and you will get a full refund of your enrollment fee with no questions or hassles whatsoever."

Well, smack my face. Let's look a little closer at that guarantee, shall we? By the time that the 60 days rolls around, we will have given him $75.00 but he'll give us our $25.00 "enrollment fee" back, which means that he'll pocket $50.00. Hhmmmm……….so much for his "Make money or its free" guarantee. Unless he believes that his keeping our $50.00 is "free" to us.

Just my thoughts.

LOLO...You have an excellent point! So basically, if we want to cancel then we need to do it within the first 30 days, which should give us another 3 modules to view before actually deciding.

BUT I have a bigger beef now.

I did what he said in the videos, using the service he recommended. I set up the ad for the iphone, put my $50 for my ad credits and thought all would be good.

I got an email from the ad company.

They said that they won't accept ads for websites that are not OPTIMIZED for the iphone. Which means they HAVE to have some kind of mobile page set up.

Now, how many CB products do you think are optimized for the iphone? I am going to try another product, because the one I tried was outside the scope of what they allowed.

But here is the other thing. He says not to use any CB landing pages with videos. Do you know how many have videos? In fact all of his have videos. So we can't even promote the actual cell phone cash program with this method.

It's almost hilarious. But I am not going to shoot this guy just yet. I am going to wait and see over the next 2 weeks IF I can get at least one ad running.

Should be interesting.

By the way, are any of the rest of you that say you are doing it, actually promoting one of the CB products with the site he shows in the videos?

topskyca · 09-01-2009, 10:57 PM

One thing confused me: the numbers in his video is from his own testing with cell phone cash or its ONLY his own clickbank income from MMM? I know he has a very successful MMM, that should be an impressive number. But in his sales letter, he only tested in one month? How can he consistently make such number across the whole year? Guess he is misleading - using other income to boost his cell phone cash system. Any thoughts?

l23bc · 09-01-2009, 11:29 PM

right

had to join up because curiousity and here is my final soultion on this!

it seems to me that mack is using this to boost up maverick money again let me explain,

oto after signing up maverick money makers site,

2.says to promote maverick money makers via mobile

on one of the videos he talks about maverick money makers being a sister site,

he is using make money online as the main theme..also some other stuff like keyword research and ect in make money on google which is really in my option not worth it since google has over 23 million sites and ads

im going to cancel in morning! im in the u.k and still cant wait a month to find out the next steps, i gotta funny feeling anyway what he is going to purpose which is google feeds and feedburner as iphones and most cell phones can get rss feeds these days,

l23bc · 09-01-2009, 11:48 PM

not to all on my last post no bashing was intended or ment at mack micheals,
just a suggestion thats all

vivientan · 09-02-2009, 01:17 AM

I've also received the Cell Phone Cash in my mailbox this morning. While the videos look impressive, there are some questions that I have:

- Is this similar to what we do in a CPA network?
- How do the mobile networks send offers to mobile users? via sms, mobile apps etc?
- Do those mobile users need to opt-in (like email opt-in) to receive those offers?
- Are we sure those mobile networks are able to send offers to users all over the world?
- Will this work for someone like myself who doesn't stay in the US?

Grateful if those of you who have purchased the pdt can shed a light on my concerns. Thanks.

Shaun Lee · 09-02-2009, 01:17 AM

Interesting replies, keep us all posted, buyers!

YesIamSam · 09-02-2009, 01:45 AM

So I plunged in as well, mostly because I am interested in the cell phone advertising platform, very untapped. Like stated above, you only get access to module 1, which has videos describing what clickbank is and how to research keywords.

First of all, you are right. Not many CB-pages are optimized for the iPhone, so that's a problem. You can always create your own landing page, and pre-sell, though.

I'm more interested in CPA products, and I definitely see some potential in this. I'm going to stay passive on the review until the next module is up. I am going to try this first, do a test run and see if it converts.

All I'm saying now is that people that are whining about it having no potential, try to think a bit outside of what is being said in the video. There is more than clickbank, and there are things people do more often on a cell phone, or that has more potential (ahem...dating, gambling, games - anyone?)...

I'll keep you posted.

l23bc · 09-02-2009, 02:01 AM

okay

just watching some of the video and i too love CPA more hardly do things with click bank im always using cpabullet or copec for offers, mind you if you check neverblue i know theres a few facebook apps that do work on on a ifone i think ill stay for a month and watch it too just wondering if places like e harmoney dating would work

anyway let you know
andy

stefanjames · 09-02-2009, 03:53 AM

Since I've purchased the course and went through I'll again say I love the way it's laid out but this is my personal opinion. Yeah I'm a fast learner and ready for the other videos but I will just keep implementing what is being taught for the first 7 days. Cool way of staying focused. Besides if you promote this course and get 2 ppl to sign up your monthly membership is paid for.

There is a ton of info in this course for a system that cost $25 a month. For me personally I'm using this cell phone market to attack cpa. Already made a few hundred yesterday. Killer concept. I hope to explode my earnings over the coming weeks.

I hope everyone has great success with this product.

jempub · 09-02-2009, 11:31 AM

Hello there Fellow Warriors.

I purchased the system too. Went through
each video...

Used the service that's recommended in the
course.

Chose 3 clickbank products in the "make
money niche".

My results:

I blew through $350.00 in about 25 minutes
got hundreds of thousands of "impressions"
got around a total of 4000 clicks and NOT
ONE SALE!

So far... not so good...

Talk later,
Gary

WealthWinners · 09-02-2009, 11:32 AM

Morning all,

stefanjames, way to go man! I love it when people make a system work, despite it's flaws!

Since I am JUST starting to learn more about CPA I don't have any authority to say if this will work with it, so thank you for answering that question.

YesIamSam, the service that is mentioned to use to advertise does not allow gambling sites, which is why my first ad didn't take. And I agree that creating your own landing page might be the best option. This has HUGE potential if we look beyond what this guy is showing to what is possible.

Just checked and they have not approved my second attempt to put an ad out. So I don't have any results yet to post.

The first ad was for making money and went to a CB site on lottery tactics. They didn't approve due to it being gambling which was against their TOS.

Decided to go into the diet products arena with a different product. So will see what happens.

I may very well dump anything with CB, and try CPA. I need to search the forum and figure out which CPA to start with and get some education on it.

topskyca, I got that same feeling. I am not sure that the numbers he was showing were for his membership to MMM or if it was actually from a product he did with the CPC (Cell Phone Cash) program.

vivientan, since I am not familiar enough with CPA, I cannot answer some of your questions intelligently so I will leave that for someone else. Also, I do not use mobile apps so I am not sure how to answer those questions either. But from what I gathered from the service that you use to promote, it IS worldwide. So if there is the cell phone network available, then you would have the option to offer in just certain areas.

WealthWinners · 09-02-2009, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jempub

Hello there Fellow Warriors.

I purchased the system too. Went through
each video...

Used the service that's recommended in the
course.

Chose 3 clickbank products in the "make
money niche".

My results:

I blew through $350.00 in about 25 minutes
got hundreds of thousands of "impressions"
got around a total of 4000 clicks and NOT
ONE SALE!

So far... not so good...

Talk later,
Gary

OMG Gary, I am so sorry this happened! Dang man, I only put up $50 just for that very reason. I figured I should get at least 1 sale.

jempub · 09-02-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WealthWinners

OMG Gary, I am so sorry this happened! Dang man, I only put up $50 just for that very reason. I figured I should get at least 1 sale.

Aw shucks... Thanks...

I do a TON of testing on these new products before I EVER
recommend them to my lists.

I just really don't see the quality in this product yet.

Very UN-targeted advertising. Sure it's very cheap but it
just doesn't convert.

I also believe the video on the sales page showing his
$8000.00 days is due to him running several different
campaigns... some on cell phones, some from his lists.

You will never be able to pull in huge paydays with one
campaign.

I'm gonna test a few options before I decide on whether
to drop it or go with it.

If anyone else is having actual GOOD results, please by
all means let us in on it...

Talk soon,
Gary

cplayers · 09-02-2009, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WealthWinners

OMG Gary, I am so sorry this happened! Dang man, I only put up $50 just for that very reason. I figured I should get at least 1 sale.

Yeah, that was the one thing, I was wondering about, the advertisement investment. Because the program looks really good and it was different than your normal program. Glad you were honest, about the $350.00, so now what do you do? I wasn't sure how long my advertising dollars would last, didn't know $350 could go in 25 minutes. I will give this a second thought, in which, I should have checked out the notes here first, before I made the decision to purchase.

Hmmm!

cheree · 09-02-2009, 12:54 PM

hey all,

i got this last night & jumped right in. mod 1 has about 7 or 8 videos itself. when i tried to go into mod 2 it said it would be unlocked after 13 days (i tried it again later & it said after 7 days). i agree that it should state that the modules will be given in increments.

i think it's a great idea since it's a pretty untapped market. however, you do need an advertising budget to implement it. i know there are other expenses to anything really but the minimums for the ad company mentioned are pretty high. even google adwords for ppc lets you set lower daily budgets. so maybe it's not good for the beginner that doesn't have an ad budget, it's hard to plunk down a lot of extra money when you weren't expecting it.

stefanjames-congrats on making it work so quickly & i think you have the right idea going with a cpa offer, my question is how much have you spent with the ad company so far?

wealthwinners- good luck & be sure to let us know how it goes after you get your first $50 out

jempub-sorry it turned out that way, hopefully it will change for you & it's great that you actually test before you send it to your list.

i still think it's a great concept & hopefully we will have some success stories out of it.

good luck to all,
cheree

tonio79 · 09-02-2009, 01:05 PM

Hi Guys and gals

Purchased this product yesterday.
First up concerning the rest of the modules and the charging.....it says that module 7 will be released 42 days after joining. As its a clickbank product and comes with a 56 day money back guarantee then if you are not happy after the 7th module, write to clickbank and get a refund.....for a total of $50...or whatver the total will be.

Yes thats annoying and i want the 7 modules now too but at least you know that with clickbank your money WILL BE returned if you are not happy! I have had monthly recurring bills returned in past for naff products so know that that won't be a problem.

If you don't want your money tied up for that long then thats a different matter.....otherwise hopefully that part is dealt with now.

Concerning whether you would make money with this is still to be seen.
Heres what i would ask those who have decided to promote clickbank products through this system though......would you buy a clickbank product through your phone????

I don't own an iphone or internet phone but am pretty sure that when i do i won't be buying a clickbank product through it. I want a full screen to read the product instantly.....i want somewhere to download it to as well.

Personally.....and please feel free to shoot me down...but i would imagine CPA offers would work much better with this system....and ones that don't involve any of those ...pay $4.95 shipping etc.

I know they will probably pay less per lead but the offers that just require email or postal code would surely work better wouldn't they???

I am very unlikely to pay $97 / $67 or even $17 for a product through my phone whilst i'm on the bus/ train / car browsing the web......but ask me if i might put my email address to recieve a free offer....and well...i might just do that!!!!

What do others think??

I might try a small advertising spend.....@ $50 to test to see if i get any leads / sales and if i can i'll let you know how i got on.

Going back to the course element however.....what if i am about to do is wrong and that in module 2 it explains a better way to pitch the offer or word the advert??? Then i've just wasted some advertising spend by not being in possession of the full facts of a course i have already paid for???

Tried to give a fair explanation of both sides of the fence......how did i do??

Good luck everyone.
I'll try and let you know how i get on....with no affiliate links or blogs to link to either.....fair and honest i hope!!

Tony

Always-A-Warrior · 09-02-2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jempub

Hello there Fellow Warriors.

I purchased the system too. Went through
each video...

Used the service that's recommended in the
course.

Chose 3 clickbank products in the "make
money niche".

My results:

I blew through $350.00 in about 25 minutes
got hundreds of thousands of "impressions"
got around a total of 4000 clicks and NOT
ONE SALE!

So far... not so good...

Talk later,
Gary

Hi Gary,

can you tell us what the $350 was spent on?.

If you got 4000 clicks and no sale then its the sales page that needs to be worked on or changed.

NicholasP · 09-02-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefanjames

There is a ton of info in this course for a system that cost $25 a month. For me personally I'm using this cell phone market to attack cpa. Already made a few hundred yesterday. Killer concept. I hope to explode my earnings over the coming weeks.

How much did you spend on these ads? Are they on iPhone-friendly landing pages?

Nick

Hesaidblissfully · 09-02-2009, 07:44 PM

I saw an email about this in my inbox, but didn't read it. To anybody out there who's really hard up for money and needs it like, yesterday, I'd suggest thinking twice before spending money on any program or "method", no matter how many 0's are in the author's Clickbank screenshot on the sales page. As some people above learned the hard way, you don't know exactly what you're getting in the program, or any additional expenses that may be required. If you need money quickly and you're going to spend money at all, you're probably better off using it to post a WSO where you offer a service to your fellow Warriors. Because regardless of what new "method" that comes out, you'll need to drive traffic to your offer. And with listing a WSO, at least you're tapping into an existing supply of traffic here on the forum.

That's not to discourage anyone from buying IM products, let alone this one, but if you need money quickly, purchasing the newest guru method might not be the best choice, and there are other ways to invest your money that may be more likely to result in cash in hand for you.

Zane Abden · 09-02-2009, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femchie2

...well let's just hope you don't get banned.

But thanks for letting us know about the structure of the modules...even though another person said they got all 7 modules. Interesting!

Femi

hi I just visit your easy video membership website and I like it so much iam currently looking to open a membership site can you please let me know what software or platform did you use for your membership site I appreciate your help

Zane Abden · 09-02-2009, 10:14 PM

is this work for people live outside USA , is this mean iam going to send text message using some tools online ? somebody please explain how this marketing done

One Dumb Aussie · 09-03-2009, 05:26 AM

I live in australia and have completed week 1 of the course.

Yes it will work outside US.

Don't get bogged down in the make money section, Try a lifestyle or health product.

It is predictable that due to the training that would be the niche everyone attacked. think out side the square and if you are losing money follow the videos more closely.

How many have a note pad happening?

I too am dissappointed we can't access further modules but honestly if you had 50 videos to watch one after the other how much would sink in?

Watch the videos at least twice before Starting campaign.

I am quietly confident in this product, 2 affiliate sales and its paying for itself.

One dumb Aussie

stefanjames · 09-03-2009, 06:24 AM

Wow sorry about that Gary. Did you make sure the products you chose didn't have flash videos on it? If they did the website won't show up correctly on the iPhone or iPod Touch. What I do is check the website on my iPod Touch before promoting it to see if it comes up correctly. From what I was testing yesterday some products won't even make it to the order form because it is not compatible with the iPhone or iPod Touch.

So just be aware of this in the future. If you don't have an iPhone or iPod Touch use a friends or just go to the Apple Store. Hope this helps you into not losing anymore of your hard earned money.

jempub · 09-03-2009, 07:20 AM

Hi there Stefan.

Yep I made 100% sure that the sales pages had NO
video on them at all.

I truly believe that the advertising is WAY TOO UN-targeted.

I tried selling phone apps, games, make money and had NO
sales.

Talk later,
Gary

jempub · 09-03-2009, 08:21 AM

Hello there Warriors.

Okay... I just ran another UN-successful test using
the EXACT techniques taught in Cell Phone Cash...

Here's the lowdown...

The entire test/campaign time took 20 minutes.

I tested this product: (affiliate link deleted)
Easy Automated Income - Make money from home

Here's the ad copy I used
"Bank Up To $4670 Per Day From Home!"

Here's the stats:
Budget: $50.00
Impressions: 57,823
Clicks: 669
CTR: 1.16%
Profits/Sales: ZERO

Talk soon,
Gary

bobmcalister · 09-03-2009, 08:45 AM

well just for the books.
you can do this without any thing other than a mobi site optimized, use it with local/regional merchants to distribute ads, coupons etc.
do if per coupon redeemed or build a list for the merchant.
Granted this is not free to anyone, but the investment is in a product you own. So contact some merchants, talk about mobile marketing, combine a program using twitter, etc.

the catch is that the site has to be optimized for mobile...otherwise it doesnt display. Contact can be made by building a list of followers thru social networks.

hope this helps

and Gary , I have never had any good results from content advertising. It sounds great , but didnt work for me either...ran thru 300 one time , and 200 the next with not one sale...had over 88k impressions and a click thru rate of about 2% with no sales.

HollandsFinest · 09-03-2009, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefanjames

Wow sorry about that Gary. Did you make sure the products you chose didn't have flash videos on it? If they did the website won't show up correctly on the iPhone or iPod Touch. What I do is check the website on my iPod Touch before promoting it to see if it comes up correctly. From what I was testing yesterday some products won't even make it to the order form because it is not compatible with the iPhone or iPod Touch.

So just be aware of this in the future. If you don't have an iPhone or iPod Touch use a friends or just go to the Apple Store. Hope this helps you into not losing anymore of your hard earned money.

Are you saying there is way we can test the pages without having an IPhone in our hands?

Is there a function in the Apple store where we can test the site and see how a certain website looks like on an Iphone screen?

And do you know if there is a way we can get more targeted traffic with the method in this offer? Like you can target an audience on myspace when placing ads there (age, gender etc.).

This would be far more effective then just blast these ads to as much Iphones as your wallet can handle.

asnorth · 09-03-2009, 09:17 AM

Thanks for the update jempub, interesting stats. Click through rate doesn´t seem too bad, I wonder if anyone would be happy to publish similar stats for cpa offers as they could do better I feel. Some posters have claimed to make money but so far no stats, anyone?
Tony

jempub · 09-03-2009, 09:25 AM

Yeah I agree... If someone is HONESTLY having good results
then please post!

Talk soon,
Gary

NicholasP · 09-03-2009, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HollandsFinest

Are you saying there is way we can test the pages without having an IPhone in our hands?

There are free iPhone browser simulators out there.

Google Search: iphone browser simulator - Google Search

WealthWinners · 09-03-2009, 10:58 AM

Good Morning Warriors!

tonio79 - You are spot on. And your post made me laugh and think "duh!". I don't own an iPhone, but it would make sense that most people wouldn't purchase a CB product that way. The sad thing is, the videos instruct using CB product doing what is "supposed" to be successful. Perhaps CPA will be brought in on later videos. However, the fact that I already spent $50 (and Gary spent a lot more!), with zero results leaves a week for me to stew on the fact that I lost that money before maybe learning that there was a better way.

Ok, I am still waiting on the final few dollars to be sucked out of my ad account, but so far, I am at 45 of the 50 that I put in and no sales. I will come back when it is done and post the exact figures.

My ad was for a weight loss product. I am plus size so I know what makes me click.

My ad was "Touch Here To Get Skinny"

Here is the product: Top Fat Loss Secrets

I tested it on TestiPhone.com - iPhone Application Web Based Simulator to make sure it would work before putting it out there.

I also canceled this product this morning.

In my opinion, the way this program is laid out, it will create a lot of cancellations.

Here is what I recommend for anyone who wants to actually sell this as an affiliate...and NOT have a lot of charge backs or cancellations.

Create a bonus that is delivered to anyone wanting this and show HOW and HOW MUCH you can make by using CPA products instead of CB products (for those who are actually making money).

This is a great niche market. But I feel that there is a lot more research that has to be done to really make it work well.

The reason I feel there will be a lot of cancels? Two actually.

1. In todays "give it to me now" society, waiting to get ALL the details over a 2 month period just is too long.
2. In doing EXACTLY what was instructed, and not producing a result, will turn people off.

Then again, because the initial price is so low, maybe there won't be.

If it was just me that was losing money, I would think that it was me that was the problem.

Yes, I would also like to see some results of those using CPA.

09-01-2009, 10:38 AM	#2
kbs Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? I recieved the same e-mail today and I imagine it will be pushed by all the Gurus. I would be careful w/ clickbank stats, I've never been the same since I've been shown how easily they can be faked. But I do agree that the idea is noteworthy.

09-01-2009, 01:18 PM	#3
dozierdd Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? I think cell phone cash could be pretty huge. I joined it yesterday when I received the email and have already made a couple dollars promoting it. The cell phone industry is going to do nothing but grow and cell phone cash offers a great way to tap into it.

09-01-2009, 02:09 PM	#5
Augydog Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: , , Canada. Posts: 53 Thanks: 48 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? I think the program has a lot of potential, I'm about to join, just want to see what the process that's involved and what I can leverage & learn.

09-01-2009, 02:53 PM	#7
Zach Booker Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 595 Thanks: 30 Thanked 90 Times in 61 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Maverick Money Makers - Project CPA 2.0 I can't comment on this course; but the reviews are mixed for his previous product. Regardless though that is one serious clickbank account. Very inspirational. Zach

09-01-2009, 03:05 PM	#8
stefanjames HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 126 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? I'm loving the course. I bought the coaching course today and already started making money. The cell phone market is a huge industry. What I've done is followed the fast action videos. Will take you about an hour or so to watch and quickly applied what was being taught. There are about 7 different modules with videos attached it. It's very well put together and organized. I combined the cell phone marketing strategy being taught with a cpa offer and it's working wonderfully. So I recommend you try it. Only $25. Honest review of cell phone cash.
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09-01-2009, 03:20 PM	#9
neuline Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Hi everyone, I bought the Cell Phone Cash system today and I'm still fuming. Never have I been so mad at a IM offer. In my opinion, the ad for this course is extremely misleading, if not at total lie. But that's my opinion and I'll let you be the judge of that. If bringing out the facts of this marketing sham gets me banned from the forum, then so be it. I'm just writing the truth and I think that the other members of this forum have the right to hear that truth and make their own minds up. In his ad, Michaels says that the cost of the course, which consists of 7 modules, is $24.97. He then goes on to say (and I quote) "All that for only $24.97, and you'll also get new training modules each and every month for just $24.97 to always keep you ahead of the game." Remember that word "also" in the above quote? Well, guess what? When you sign up, you only get one of the 7 training modules that he promised. The other six are those "new training modules" that he talked about and they will be opened on a timed sequence throughout the next 3 months. Obviously, those "new training modules" are, in reality, the original course modules (you know - the ones that you paid the original $25.00 dollars for). This actually makes the cost of the course $100.00 (the first $25.00 and then 3 other payments to cover the 90-day period). Now, if he wanted to charge $100.00 for the course, fine. Just tell me that, and I can then make my mind up about it. Just don't tell that the course is $25.00 and then withhold the course from me until I fork over another $75.00. Talk about extortion! I was also perturbed by this marketing ploy because I'm in some tough financial straits right now and I need to get money NOW - not 100 days from now. I guess that the millionaire "gurus" just don't get that part of it. At any rate, I'm done with my rant. I just wanted everyone else to know the truth (or lack thereof) about the ad. And this is too bad because, from what I can see from the first module, this has the potential to be a very good course. Its only his marketing ploy that I have a problem with. I hope this helps.

09-01-2009, 03:29 PM	#10
femchie2 Eazy African Marketer War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 142 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? ...well let's just hope you don't get banned. But thanks for letting us know about the structure of the modules...even though another person said they got all 7 modules. Interesting! Femi
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09-01-2009, 03:56 PM	#12
dozierdd Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? femchie2, Hey I saw a comment here about the product while searching for something else on google and since I had just purchased it I thought I'd drop my two cents. The product has a lot of potential. As you can imagine the cell phone industry is huge and to have the insight on how to tap into this market with affiliate products is great. I saw where neuline commented about the product modules and that information is false. You start with module 1 and you are served 1 new module every 7 days. So if you are actually working the program and not trying to skip through it, you get a week to complete a module before the next module is made available. It's just like in school when the teacher asked you to read chapter 1 and learn it before skimming through the rest of the book and think you know it all. Yes the money that I have made wasn't from cell phones, but from the actual cell phone cash product affiliate program. Affiliate marketing is what I do, so when I saw this I invested in it to learn and started marketing it to share. But earning some money within 12hrs of purchasing the product is a good testament to how marketable this is going to be. I don't use PPC so in order to get on the bus organically you must move fast. I don't know how long I can hold it but if you put "Cell Phone Cash Review" into google my article holds top rank. Of course by the end of the day it might be gone, but at least I've gotten a few sales from my efforts.
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09-01-2009, 04:34 PM	#13
neuline Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Well praise the Lord, When I read the comment from dozierdd about my being incorrect about the timetable for receiving the modules, I girded my loins and went back to the course site to get myself armed with the truth upon my return to this forum, ready to do battle defending what I had written in my previous reply (aka my rant). But, alas, I found that Michaels does, indeed, read this forum because the time sequence was modified to work as dozierdd said. A new module will be opened every seven days. I would guess that more people than myself complained about the set-up of the course, and this prompted Michaels to back off from his incredible position. I presume that there will also be some adjustment on his ad site also. I'm still not really happy with the new time table because I really need this info right now. I mean, when I buy a gallon of milk, I don't expect a quart of milk to be delivered to my door for the next four weeks. What's with that? Finally, just for the record, yes, I can handle 7 WHOLE modules at one time and not be thrown into a catatonic state, wondering the streets, confused, disoriented, bewildered. Now, admittedly, that's how I DO act when the Cardinals lose a close one to the Cubs, but that's just me. Again, I hoped that this helped.

09-01-2009, 05:04 PM	#14
JoeC Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? What If you're new to IM ( that be me ) in general, can you still start making money fast?A few members have posted stating they made money right off. Is this because they have a good size list to market to already? I guess what I'm asking is, ya think Cell Phone Cash will work for a noob with no list to market to?

09-01-2009, 05:09 PM	#15
stefanjames HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 126 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? I understand where you are coming from neuline. I'm a pretty fast learner myself and have already went through the videos, applied the techniques, and I'm already making money using these methods. I'm ready for the next methods as well but I can be patient and just concentrate on exploding the techniques laid out in the first 7 days. I think its a well put together concept. Good luck to you
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09-01-2009, 06:58 PM	#16
WealthWinners Master Of My Domain! Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 37 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Social Networking	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? I actually stumbled on the first 2 posts to this thread this morning when I started researching this program. I decided to jump on as an affiliate, but more importantly I wanted to see what was "inside", as I wanted to write a real review by actually using it. So I took the plunge. Now I will say up front, I am not a fan of looooong sales pages. So I watched the vids, and skimmed. I didn't catch the part about it being monthly until I actually had clicked to buy. My bad, but I knew when I hit submit what I was getting....or so I thought. It wasn't until after I got signed in that I realized that I won't get to see the other modules, until they allow me too on a weekly basis. That kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Not because of the money, because truthfully, if it is only 7 or 8 weeks, that is still only $50. And if I can make real money from this process, it would be worth it. My issue is that I am not patient. I need to see the rest NOW. I have already watched all of module one and want more. In fact, I actually decided to implement the program, and plunked down an additional $50 for the advertising (the service they recommend). So I decided to just blog my progress. Yes, my blog is riddled with affiliate links, but I am only going to post honest opinions based on the actual usage of the program. Hopefully it will help if anyone wants more insight over the next few weeks. Cell Phone Cash Mojo Incidentally, I did send in a support ticket to ask if there was a way to get access to the rest of the modules. I will report back what I find. Oh, and to answer about being a complete noob...if you have no idea what CB or PPC stands for, you may want to consider something else to start. By the way, while the program doesn't charge any additional fees, that doesn't mean that there aren't additional fees elsewhere. I don't want to sound negative, because I DO believe this will be a good program. It all depends on if the rest of the modules can deliver the goods. Sorry for such a long post.
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09-01-2009, 08:03 PM	#17
billybob2727 Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Do you have to pay any additional cost (besides the cost of the course) to make any money with these methods?

09-01-2009, 08:29 PM	#18
l23bc Looking for work online! War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: liverpool uk Posts: 747 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 61 Thanked 39 Times in 38 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? excuse me for tapping into this conversation but i am a old mack micheals student at maverick money makers and he is just doing what he normally does with that softwere no bashing intended or ment please let me explain with maverick money makers he had a few tactics he shown and promised a few new videos the following month or so to come, saying his had to upload then it became maverick money makers 2.0 and some of the old stuff his students waited for ages to see the follow on to the tactics he used however some videos never got released for months and thats why i left the course, i did make from maverick 2k in clickbank affilates as i was one of the first to sign up i beleive, but if your a noobie dont go running into something to wait and wait and wait try the 30 day challenge and save your cash? if your stuck for money please i dont want to see you waiting for some video that puts the peaces to the puzzles later rather then sooner, and for 100 bucks you could get a good few articles written and make traffic to pay you cash yes mobile phone industry is a big industry and i should know i used to work for 02uk and vodafone and the carphone warehouse and the commision i made as a sales agents was huge in retentations here in the u.k when customer's signed up for 18 month contracts, but to the people that say they have made money i like to ask for some proof,
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09-01-2009, 09:52 PM	#19
neuline Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Hi everyone, Just got back to the computer and have read some of the posts that have been put up the last couple of hours. To Stefanjames, I just want to say that I appreciate your feedback and hope that you didn't take any offense at my comments about the course. Like you, I think that, ultimately, its a well thought-out concept. Unlike you, however, I'm a pretty impatient guy. (I guess you caught that, though.) WealthWinners, you say: "So I watched the vids, and skimmed. I didn't catch the part about it being monthly until I actually had clicked to buy." Of course you didn't. Because he planned it that way. Like you, the 7-week thing rubs me the wrong way. Quite frankly, I'm tired of the sellers (oh, I'm sorry. The GURUS) treating us like we've got the intelligence of a Kumquat and the intestinal fortitude of the daisies of the field. Also like you, the $25.00 is not the issue. With that said, let's look at his "guarantee". He says: "If during your first 60 days of my coaching, you're not happy with the program for any reason then ask for your money back and you will get a full refund of your enrollment fee with no questions or hassles whatsoever." Well, smack my face. Let's look a little closer at that guarantee, shall we? By the time that the 60 days rolls around, we will have given him $75.00 but he'll give us our $25.00 "enrollment fee" back, which means that he'll pocket $50.00. Hhmmmm……….so much for his "Make money or its free" guarantee. Unless he believes that his keeping our $50.00 is "free" to us. Just my thoughts.

09-01-2009, 10:57 PM	#21
topskyca Eric Chen War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 70 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? One thing confused me: the numbers in his video is from his own testing with cell phone cash or its ONLY his own clickbank income from MMM? I know he has a very successful MMM, that should be an impressive number. But in his sales letter, he only tested in one month? How can he consistently make such number across the whole year? Guess he is misleading - using other income to boost his cell phone cash system. Any thoughts?

09-01-2009, 11:29 PM	#22
l23bc Looking for work online! War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: liverpool uk Posts: 747 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 61 Thanked 39 Times in 38 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? right had to join up because curiousity and here is my final soultion on this! it seems to me that mack is using this to boost up maverick money again let me explain, oto after signing up maverick money makers site, 2.says to promote maverick money makers via mobile on one of the videos he talks about maverick money makers being a sister site, he is using make money online as the main theme..also some other stuff like keyword research and ect in make money on google which is really in my option not worth it since google has over 23 million sites and ads im going to cancel in morning! im in the u.k and still cant wait a month to find out the next steps, i gotta funny feeling anyway what he is going to purpose which is google feeds and feedburner as iphones and most cell phones can get rss feeds these days,
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09-01-2009, 11:48 PM	#23
l23bc Looking for work online! War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: liverpool uk Posts: 747 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 61 Thanked 39 Times in 38 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? not to all on my last post no bashing was intended or ment at mack micheals, just a suggestion thats all
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09-02-2009, 01:17 AM	#24
vivientan Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? I've also received the Cell Phone Cash in my mailbox this morning. While the videos look impressive, there are some questions that I have: - Is this similar to what we do in a CPA network? - How do the mobile networks send offers to mobile users? via sms, mobile apps etc? - Do those mobile users need to opt-in (like email opt-in) to receive those offers? - Are we sure those mobile networks are able to send offers to users all over the world? - Will this work for someone like myself who doesn't stay in the US? Grateful if those of you who have purchased the pdt can shed a light on my concerns. Thanks.
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09-02-2009, 01:17 AM	#25
Shaun Lee HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 329 Thanks: 20 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Interesting replies, keep us all posted, buyers!

09-02-2009, 01:45 AM	#26
YesIamSam Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? So I plunged in as well, mostly because I am interested in the cell phone advertising platform, very untapped. Like stated above, you only get access to module 1, which has videos describing what clickbank is and how to research keywords. First of all, you are right. Not many CB-pages are optimized for the iPhone, so that's a problem. You can always create your own landing page, and pre-sell, though. I'm more interested in CPA products, and I definitely see some potential in this. I'm going to stay passive on the review until the next module is up. I am going to try this first, do a test run and see if it converts. All I'm saying now is that people that are whining about it having no potential, try to think a bit outside of what is being said in the video. There is more than clickbank, and there are things people do more often on a cell phone, or that has more potential (ahem...dating, gambling, games - anyone?)... I'll keep you posted.

09-02-2009, 02:01 AM	#27
l23bc Looking for work online! War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: liverpool uk Posts: 747 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 61 Thanked 39 Times in 38 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? okay just watching some of the video and i too love CPA more hardly do things with click bank im always using cpabullet or copec for offers, mind you if you check neverblue i know theres a few facebook apps that do work on on a ifone i think ill stay for a month and watch it too just wondering if places like e harmoney dating would work anyway let you know andy
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09-02-2009, 03:53 AM	#28
stefanjames HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 126 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Since I've purchased the course and went through I'll again say I love the way it's laid out but this is my personal opinion. Yeah I'm a fast learner and ready for the other videos but I will just keep implementing what is being taught for the first 7 days. Cool way of staying focused. Besides if you promote this course and get 2 ppl to sign up your monthly membership is paid for. There is a ton of info in this course for a system that cost $25 a month. For me personally I'm using this cell phone market to attack cpa. Already made a few hundred yesterday. Killer concept. I hope to explode my earnings over the coming weeks. I hope everyone has great success with this product.
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09-02-2009, 11:31 AM	#29
jempub HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: , , . Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Hello there Fellow Warriors. I purchased the system too. Went through each video... Used the service that's recommended in the course. Chose 3 clickbank products in the "make money niche". My results: I blew through $350.00 in about 25 minutes got hundreds of thousands of "impressions" got around a total of 4000 clicks and NOT ONE SALE! So far... not so good... Talk later, Gary
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09-02-2009, 11:32 AM	#30
WealthWinners Master Of My Domain! Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 37 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Social Networking	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Morning all, stefanjames, way to go man! I love it when people make a system work, despite it's flaws! Since I am JUST starting to learn more about CPA I don't have any authority to say if this will work with it, so thank you for answering that question. YesIamSam, the service that is mentioned to use to advertise does not allow gambling sites, which is why my first ad didn't take. And I agree that creating your own landing page might be the best option. This has HUGE potential if we look beyond what this guy is showing to what is possible. Just checked and they have not approved my second attempt to put an ad out. So I don't have any results yet to post. The first ad was for making money and went to a CB site on lottery tactics. They didn't approve due to it being gambling which was against their TOS. Decided to go into the diet products arena with a different product. So will see what happens. I may very well dump anything with CB, and try CPA. I need to search the forum and figure out which CPA to start with and get some education on it. topskyca, I got that same feeling. I am not sure that the numbers he was showing were for his membership to MMM or if it was actually from a product he did with the CPC (Cell Phone Cash) program. vivientan, since I am not familiar enough with CPA, I cannot answer some of your questions intelligently so I will leave that for someone else. Also, I do not use mobile apps so I am not sure how to answer those questions either. But from what I gathered from the service that you use to promote, it IS worldwide. So if there is the cell phone network available, then you would have the option to offer in just certain areas.
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09-02-2009, 12:54 PM	#34
cheree Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? hey all, i got this last night & jumped right in. mod 1 has about 7 or 8 videos itself. when i tried to go into mod 2 it said it would be unlocked after 13 days (i tried it again later & it said after 7 days). i agree that it should state that the modules will be given in increments. i think it's a great idea since it's a pretty untapped market. however, you do need an advertising budget to implement it. i know there are other expenses to anything really but the minimums for the ad company mentioned are pretty high. even google adwords for ppc lets you set lower daily budgets. so maybe it's not good for the beginner that doesn't have an ad budget, it's hard to plunk down a lot of extra money when you weren't expecting it. stefanjames-congrats on making it work so quickly & i think you have the right idea going with a cpa offer, my question is how much have you spent with the ad company so far? wealthwinners- good luck & be sure to let us know how it goes after you get your first $50 out jempub-sorry it turned out that way, hopefully it will change for you & it's great that you actually test before you send it to your list. i still think it's a great concept & hopefully we will have some success stories out of it. good luck to all, cheree

09-02-2009, 01:05 PM	#35
tonio79 Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Hi Guys and gals Purchased this product yesterday. First up concerning the rest of the modules and the charging.....it says that module 7 will be released 42 days after joining. As its a clickbank product and comes with a 56 day money back guarantee then if you are not happy after the 7th module, write to clickbank and get a refund.....for a total of $50...or whatver the total will be. Yes thats annoying and i want the 7 modules now too but at least you know that with clickbank your money WILL BE returned if you are not happy! I have had monthly recurring bills returned in past for naff products so know that that won't be a problem. If you don't want your money tied up for that long then thats a different matter.....otherwise hopefully that part is dealt with now. Concerning whether you would make money with this is still to be seen. Heres what i would ask those who have decided to promote clickbank products through this system though......would you buy a clickbank product through your phone???? I don't own an iphone or internet phone but am pretty sure that when i do i won't be buying a clickbank product through it. I want a full screen to read the product instantly.....i want somewhere to download it to as well. Personally.....and please feel free to shoot me down...but i would imagine CPA offers would work much better with this system....and ones that don't involve any of those ...pay $4.95 shipping etc. I know they will probably pay less per lead but the offers that just require email or postal code would surely work better wouldn't they??? I am very unlikely to pay $97 / $67 or even $17 for a product through my phone whilst i'm on the bus/ train / car browsing the web......but ask me if i might put my email address to recieve a free offer....and well...i might just do that!!!! What do others think?? I might try a small advertising spend.....@ $50 to test to see if i get any leads / sales and if i can i'll let you know how i got on. Going back to the course element however.....what if i am about to do is wrong and that in module 2 it explains a better way to pitch the offer or word the advert??? Then i've just wasted some advertising spend by not being in possession of the full facts of a course i have already paid for??? Tried to give a fair explanation of both sides of the fence......how did i do?? Good luck everyone. I'll try and let you know how i get on....with no affiliate links or blogs to link to either.....fair and honest i hope!! Tony

09-02-2009, 07:44 PM	#38
Hesaidblissfully Advanced Warrior Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 582 Thanks: 23 Thanked 88 Times in 62 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? I saw an email about this in my inbox, but didn't read it. To anybody out there who's really hard up for money and needs it like, yesterday, I'd suggest thinking twice before spending money on any program or "method", no matter how many 0's are in the author's Clickbank screenshot on the sales page. As some people above learned the hard way, you don't know exactly what you're getting in the program, or any additional expenses that may be required. If you need money quickly and you're going to spend money at all, you're probably better off using it to post a WSO where you offer a service to your fellow Warriors. Because regardless of what new "method" that comes out, you'll need to drive traffic to your offer. And with listing a WSO, at least you're tapping into an existing supply of traffic here on the forum. That's not to discourage anyone from buying IM products, let alone this one, but if you need money quickly, purchasing the newest guru method might not be the best choice, and there are other ways to invest your money that may be more likely to result in cash in hand for you.

09-02-2009, 10:14 PM	#40
Zane Abden Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 32 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Contact Info	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? is this work for people live outside USA , is this mean iam going to send text message using some tools online ? somebody please explain how this marketing done
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09-03-2009, 05:26 AM	#41
One Dumb Aussie Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Australia, Queensland Posts: 20 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? I live in australia and have completed week 1 of the course. Yes it will work outside US. Don't get bogged down in the make money section, Try a lifestyle or health product. It is predictable that due to the training that would be the niche everyone attacked. think out side the square and if you are losing money follow the videos more closely. How many have a note pad happening? I too am dissappointed we can't access further modules but honestly if you had 50 videos to watch one after the other how much would sink in? Watch the videos at least twice before Starting campaign. I am quietly confident in this product, 2 affiliate sales and its paying for itself. One dumb Aussie

09-03-2009, 06:24 AM	#42
stefanjames HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 126 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Wow sorry about that Gary. Did you make sure the products you chose didn't have flash videos on it? If they did the website won't show up correctly on the iPhone or iPod Touch. What I do is check the website on my iPod Touch before promoting it to see if it comes up correctly. From what I was testing yesterday some products won't even make it to the order form because it is not compatible with the iPhone or iPod Touch. So just be aware of this in the future. If you don't have an iPhone or iPod Touch use a friends or just go to the Apple Store. Hope this helps you into not losing anymore of your hard earned money.
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09-03-2009, 07:20 AM	#43
jempub HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: , , . Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Hi there Stefan. Yep I made 100% sure that the sales pages had NO video on them at all. I truly believe that the advertising is WAY TOO UN-targeted. I tried selling phone apps, games, make money and had NO sales. Talk later, Gary
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09-03-2009, 08:21 AM	#44
jempub HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: , , . Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Hello there Warriors. Okay... I just ran another UN-successful test using the EXACT techniques taught in Cell Phone Cash... Here's the lowdown... The entire test/campaign time took 20 minutes. I tested this product: (affiliate link deleted) Easy Automated Income - Make money from home Here's the ad copy I used "Bank Up To $4670 Per Day From Home!" Here's the stats: Budget: $50.00 Impressions: 57,823 Clicks: 669 CTR: 1.16% Profits/Sales: ZERO Talk soon, Gary
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09-03-2009, 08:45 AM	#45
bobmcalister lease this space War Room Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: moving to Coscar soon..my nose glows around here Posts: 575 Blog Entries: 13 Thanks: 204 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? well just for the books. you can do this without any thing other than a mobi site optimized, use it with local/regional merchants to distribute ads, coupons etc. do if per coupon redeemed or build a list for the merchant. Granted this is not free to anyone, but the investment is in a product you own. So contact some merchants, talk about mobile marketing, combine a program using twitter, etc. the catch is that the site has to be optimized for mobile...otherwise it doesnt display. Contact can be made by building a list of followers thru social networks. hope this helps and Gary , I have never had any good results from content advertising. It sounds great , but didnt work for me either...ran thru 300 one time , and 200 the next with not one sale...had over 88k impressions and a click thru rate of about 2% with no sales.
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09-03-2009, 09:17 AM	#47
asnorth Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cell Phone Cash - What is This? Thanks for the update jempub, interesting stats. Click through rate doesn´t seem too bad, I wonder if anyone would be happy to publish similar stats for cpa offers as they could do better I feel. Some posters have claimed to make money but so far no stats, anyone? Tony