Has anyone tried "Cracking Adwords Code"?

17 years ago

I haven't tried it but it's very compelling and tempting.

Last time I meant to search Google.com for the adwords code to see if I could find a deal with discount or bonuses in the Adwords Ads on the side or wherever but I forgot.

Maybe I'll try this time around.

I got an email a half hour ago and came by to see if anyone had anything to say because he said there are more than 50,000 people waiting with only 500 spots open.

Opens at 8AM Pacific which is 15 minutes from now.

Ah, the urgency tactic :-)

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jimsomchai 17 years ago

Hi Tommy,

Yes, it is tempting.

But for the price of almost $1,500, I have to think carefully.

It doesn't matter how much it costs as long as it can help me
get enough return on the investment.

Although the package offers guarantee, I do not want to exercise that.
I just want to at least make sure that there is something worthwhile inside.

Asking for refund is not my strategy at all.

May be I go back to read his sale letter again before making decision.

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Ann Bedwell 17 years ago

Yes, for those who may not know, ( you all probably do though) the sense of urgency, or the take away is a classic sales technique used everyday in every sales transaction. I was taught that and much more thru heavy duty sales training. Please post your findings when the time comes to sign up. I would like to know if in fact there are enough spots or is that really a 500 spot only situation.
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tommyp

17 years ago

Yea, I know. I looked for bonuses but I couldn't find anything decent. I found one Mr. A who appeared but I've seen him before and he jumps on launches with almost the same bonuses every time and they aren't appealing to me in the slightest. A discount would be better. But at $450 commission (I know because I managed to make a couple during the first run - I was the only one in Adwords for it :BIG SMILE: There are a bunch of "me too" people showing up in Adwords the last time I checked and who knows they may make a sale or two but it's pretty much a losing battle now) if the affiliate gives you even half of that back it's still over $1200.

But like you say I'm not looking to buy with the intention of refunding either, however, in the past I got it in me to take pride in never asking for a refund, but I've changed my mind. I don't ever buy intending to refund either but if I don't like something I will return it now, if there is a money back guarantee. Period. If I didn't, I'd be out a small fortune with a bunch of crap in my house and on my hard drive.

Anyway that's neither here nor there.

The mp3s that come with it are just the audios from the videos. I'd take the option, if he gave it, to not get those if he knocked off $500 because I don't care for that and I think it's just an easy way to justify a higher price. It's the same content of the videos.

I'm not the biggest dummy in Adwords and I know it, but I'm always interested in new stuff because there's probably always something new I can get out of something like this.

He hasn't said anything about the 500 copies from this second run being sold out yet but in truth this one will probably pass me by. I would get it, but now is a bad time for me. If there is never a relaunch in the future, oh well.

Good marketing. I have little doubt there are subtle lies here and there to get people to buy but that's okay as long as the product delivers what it says. Or maybe I am wrong and every word that comes out of Michael Jones' mouth is truthful. I haven't seen it but I have a gut feeling this is a great Adwords course.

But I'm not going to get emotionally sucked in. Bottle line is that I, you and everyone has to look at our individual situation and judge whether or not it is in our best interest to pay $1500 for something, even if you can afford it. Like they say it isn't how much you make but how much you keep.

Weigh the pros and cons and don't get persuaded on the argument that any price is worth something if the value is there. You won't know that until you get it. If it isn't the right time to get something or you are very new there is probably no good reason to fork over $1500 for something.

I do hope that those who bought it through my link are getting a lot out of it.

Last thing, I could be wrong but, as far as that one word Google hates that you should never use that he says he'll tell you in the course, I am almost positive that the word is FREE.

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CoralN

17 years ago

Hi, I keep coming back to this thread hoping that someone who has bought The Adwords Code has posted some comments on it, but no such luck. I can't find any info on this anywhere. It sounds very appealing, but very expensive, especially for me paying in Australian Dollars which at the moment is only paying 63 cents to the US Dollar so that brings it close to $2,000. Makes me weak at the knees just thinking about it. So like you tommyp, I might have to pass this time round also. Thanks for your comments.
Hey I thought the exact same thing about the FREE word also.

Kind Regards,
Coral.

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jimsomchai

17 years ago

Hi Tommy and Coral,

Thanks you both for comments.
I don't have anything to say further. I wish someone who bought the program comes up with some comments. That will be useful.

Cheers,

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Va

17 years ago

I have same felling with all of you, but I have no choice to purchase it at the second launch.

The package haven't arrived yet, I think within this week or next. I will post some comment once I received it.

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CoralN

17 years ago

Originally Posted by davidyui

I have same felling with all of you, but I have no choice to purchase it at the second launch.

The package haven't arrived yet, I think within this week or next. I will post some comment once I received it.

Thanks David,

Looking forward to your post.

All the best with it, here's hoping that it turns out very prosperous for you.

Regards,
Coral.

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Va 17 years ago

Thanks Carol
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jimsomchai

17 years ago

Hi David,

Same here. I look forward to reading your comments.

Cheers,

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pixguy

17 years ago

The Adwords code- Michael Jones

I got it and I watched it for 2 days.
I will post my comments after dave does.
just to see if my assumption is the same as his.
:|

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jimsomchai 17 years ago

Hi Pixguy,

Thanks. Look forward to hearing the comments from you guys.

cheers,

Jim Somchai
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Va

17 years ago

Originally Posted by pixguy

The Adwords code- Michael Jones

I got it and I watched it for 2 days.
I will post my comments after dave does.
just to see if my assumption is the same as his.
:|

Hi Pixguy,

May I know how long you waiting for the package to arrived? I pay on another last Friday and until now I still didn't get the tracking code. Already 12 days now...

Please advice me.

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Va 17 years ago

Hi everyone,

I also bought the PPC Classroom 2.0 which to me is priceless to my learning, I buy the full package for about $500 and the information is great.
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- jimsomchai 17 years ago
  
  Hi David,
  
  Thanks for the information on PPC classroom. How about the review on adword code, is it good or bad?
  
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  Va 17 years ago
  
  Hi Jim,
  
  Until now I still not received my package, already 12 days
  
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sylvestor

17 years ago

No although I have looked at it myself. I did try Automatic Wealth Maker by Eric Rockefeller and decided it was way too complicated if you know nothing about twitter/squidoo etc. I would not recommend for newbies. Although I am not a newbie, I guess I am to that sort of marketing.

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pixguy

17 years ago

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David,
I got mine in a few days.
Email info@everprofits.com and ask what is the hold up, also make sure you give them some payment details as this will help them with your enquiry.

They have a help desk system as well, which you may need to sign up for and then put in a ticket request.

I have asked for a refund, and they said to wait up to 30 days.
I will see if he holds up to his word on refunding before giving a review guys..

Stay tuned...
PG

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Va

17 years ago

Originally Posted by pixguy

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David,
I got mine in a few days.
Email info@everprofits.com and ask what is the hold up, also make sure you give them some payment details as this will help them with your enquiry.

They have a help desk system as well, which you may need to sign up for and then put in a ticket request.

I have asked for a refund, and they said to wait up to 30 days.
I will see if he holds up to his word on refunding before giving a review guys..

Stay tuned...
PG

Hi PG,

Thanks for the information.

I have send them several email and support desk before ask for the tracking code, but they just keep quiet. Why you ask for refund?

David

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pixguy 17 years ago

Hi David,
sorry I don't know what to say to you.
Just keep trying.
Did you include ALL your payment information?

PG
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- Va 17 years ago
  
  Hi PG
  
  They have my order detail already and just not provide me the tracking ID. Just wait for another few days see any UPS man or not.
  
  David
  
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  joe0074 17 years ago
  
  Yes, I have tried it and then I asked for a refund. Why ?
  
  If you are a newbie in adwords, the adwords code may help you a lot to get going in the right direction from the start. But I'm not a newbie. I have been struggling with adwords for a while now and have bought a lot of ebooks after ebooks about adwords to learn by myself.
  
  To be honest, the information in the adwords code is not something new for me. With that high price ticket I expect to have more unique contents or secret techniques that can't be found anywhere's else.
  
  What you are going to learn in the adwords code are how to do a keyword research using word tracker, spyfu and google keyword tool - how to write google ad which get high CTR - how to optimize your landing paid to get high quality score - how to test, twisting and tracking your campaigne - how to use content and placement ad to get cheap CPC - how to bid your campaigne etc. In my opinion, this information is not really new or secret at all.
  
  If you have limit budget and can't afford the adwords code ($1,594). Don't worry.
  
  I would recommend you to buy: Beating Adwords + Adwords 180 + Adwords Insider Secret
  These 3 items will cost you around $ 400 but it covers 70% of what you are going to learn in the adwords code. Most importantly it's gonna save you huge amount of money.
  
  I will get a refund in 30 days but I have to send the CD back to them.
  
  Hope this helps,
  
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  Va 17 years ago
  
  Hi Joe,
  
  Is they agree to send you a refund? What do you mean refund by 30 days?
  
  I'm not newbie also but I already pay for more than 2 weeks and not received my package until now, just worry about the 30 days money back guarantee.
  
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  joe0074 17 years ago
  
  Hi David,
  
  I sent an email to them via support ticket.
  They replied me back and asked me to send the CD back to them.
  The refund will be transfered to my CC within 30 days.
  
  Hope this helps.
  
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Va

17 years ago

Hi Joe,

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jimsomchai

17 years ago

Hi Joe and David,

I saw your correspondences but I did not intervene because I didn't have any thing much to say.

Thanks a lot for your comments. Keep us posted if there is any issue.

Cheers,

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PamelaH

17 years ago

Hello - last time I checked (a couple of days ago) - this is sold out.

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pixguy 17 years ago

Well guys,
It's been 18 days since refund request was sent and no refund so far.
Mr Jones has 12 days left to refund me.
Will keep you posted.
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jimsomchai

17 years ago

Hi PG,

Thanks for the update.
I think you should get the refund with no problem for a big-ticket item like this.

Keep us posted then.

Cheers,

Cheers,

Jim Somchai,

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pixguy

17 years ago

OMG,
This Guy Michael Jones or should I say ( Maayan Marzan ) and his buddy Roy Oron,
are a piece of work let me tell you.
At first he opened up The adwords code for 500 people only...
Then he opened it up again and said it was only for another 500 and it will not be availble again, because his partner was not happy about him revealing his SECRETS ( LOL )

So, I go to the site today... and guess what... its open to another 500...
I am sooo sick and tired of seeing these so called GURU'S using the scarcity tactic
and saying "Only XXX avai;able... "
then 3 mths later they open it up again.
Michael did not even wait a mth to start his push
for more buyers to his below standard course....
Geeees
He has a few days to refund me...lets see what he does.

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pixguy 17 years ago

Ok Guys,
Got the refund after waiting not 30 days as promised but 47 days.
They had to wait till the CD I was shipped got returned to them.
Umm, what happens if it got lost?
Do I not get a refund?
Delay tactic if you ask me.
Silly if you ask me.. but he stayed true to his word on the refund.
I have to give him that.
And, the support desk did answer every query I put in.

Now, My thoughts.

He has launched the Adwords Code YET AGAIN.
just got an email...

The Adwords code will launch on
Tuesday 12/02/08 - 8:00 AM PST.

Ummm, I thought Michael was ONLY going to sell 500 copies and then he was going to close it, as his friend ( Roy ) was very angry with him for releasing such ultra super duper stealth never before seen adwords secrets..

Well this is the 5th time he has opened it up for sale.

And he still has the catch cry, "Only to 500 people"
:confused:

If your gonna use the scarcity tactic, Then mean it Michael.

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Well guys, here is my observation...
I am not new to adwords but I am by no means an expert,
but can hold my own.

A fellow WF member PM'd me and asked me to comment
and he wrote this to see if he was far off the mark about
what I would say about the Adwords Code...

" Dear Pixguy,
Here's my guesstimate:
It's all laid out in a good professional way,
Michael Jones seems to know what he's talking about and the information seems good or reliable and might make sense but maybe some things don't quite come across, and while overall it seems good you wonder whether or not it's really worth $1500 and a lot of it really seems like common sense stuff, much or some of which you have heard before and none of it or much isn't a real big secret, and if you were already familiar with adwords you might be disappointed.

It also feels like you were a little mislead during his promotion because you don't quite feel like you got what you thought you would or you did in a way but feel let down somehow.

Maybe you also realize that there are things involved you didn't expect and when it comes down to it there is a risk and it's not as easy pickings like he made it seem. Buyer's remorse may be kicking in.
Was I way off ???

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Hi, XXXXX
Well, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Personally, I would pay $197 - $297 for the info
IF I was an adwords Newbie.

Wayyyyyy over priced and over hyped.
I must say he is a very smooth talker.
I would hire him to sell my products even, except my
products would offer real value for the price.

But alot of the info you can find by doing some hard research on
the warrior forum or Wealthy Affiliate, PPCC2 etc etc....

Hey, if you are new to adwords, then its chock full of info,
but I still feel it is missing some things that explain it more
thouroughly to Adwords Newbies.

What did irritate me was the fact that,
1.
He said his name is Michael Jones.
Then he sends out email signed, Michael Marzin ???

2.
He kept saying all through the presentation vids that he
should have given us a page graphic on this, and he should
have given a page graphic on that etc..

Well Michael, I paid $1500 for the course, you should have added
ALL the graphics.

3.
And his screen pen was not working while drawing examples,
he kept saying..he needs to get it fixed...
Well Michael, you earnt 350k in 3 months... surely you can buy a
new pen graphic tablet that works so someone spending $1500 can
get an enjoyable presentation.

4.
Also, He shows how he set up his campaigns but showed very little
on how he researched his product choice or Keywords.
( Now, I know it is an adwords course and not a niche course, but come on, I payed $1500 )

In the videos his last sales tally that he told us after 2 weeks was 4 sales.
and after 2 weeks said he made a $100 profit. hmmmm.

I was expecting him to show a great screen shot of how
successful his campaign was after he had finished, but he did not.

All he said is he is in profit.

In my opinion, this course or ( Overview for a better word )
is WAYYY overpriced and he sold 1000 copies at $1500. You do the math.

He even had the gumption to charge $10 for postage.
Maybe he couldn't have taken the $10 from the $1500 I paid him.

Hey, It's good info for newbies but I would not pay $1500 for it.
I can spend a few weeks on WF or other membership sites and get
the same info if I was willing to do the research and not be lazy.

Just my 2 cents.

Let me give you a tip guys...
When you start to promote your own stuff, even if its not in a IM
Niche,
"OFFER VALUE"
Over deliver and you will have happy customers.
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john3

17 years ago

Originally Posted by pixguy

OMG,
This Guy Michael Jones or should I say ( Maayan Marzan ) and his buddy Roy Oron,
are a piece of work let me tell you.
At first he opened up The adwords code for 500 people only...
Then he opened it up again and said it was only for another 500 and it will not be availble again, because his partner was not happy about him revealing his SECRETS ( LOL )

So, I go to the site today... and guess what... its open to another 500...
I am sooo sick and tired of seeing these so called GURU'S using the scarcity tactic
and saying "Only XXX avai;able... "
then 3 mths later they open it up again.
Michael did not even wait a mth to start his push
for more buyers to his below standard course....
Geeees
He has a few days to refund me...lets see what he does.

Hi Pixguy,

I do not blame Michael Jones for using the scarcity tactic and then opening up the course to more people. His initial target was to get 500 people only to buy the course. But looking at the content of the course, I do not think even a single person from that 500 would have kept the course. Poor Michael would have had to open it to another 500 hoping none of them ask for a refund too.
Yes I was ripped off too. Have asked for a refund and it has been 30 days but no sign of a refund. I remember he charged me $97 for postage. Did he refund that or did he keep that.

John

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pixguy

17 years ago

Originally Posted by john3

Hi Pixguy,

I do not blame Michael Jones for using the scarcity tactic and then opening up the course to more people. His initial target was to get 500 people only to buy the course. But looking at the content of the course, I do not think even a single person from that 500 would have kept the course. Poor Michael would have had to open it to another 500 hoping none of them ask for a refund too.
Yes I was ripped off too. Have asked for a refund and it has been 30 days but no sign of a refund. I remember he charged me $97 for postage. Did he refund that or did he keep that.

John

I did not want to push for postage and have my $1500 held at ransom with more excuses..lol.
On the scarcity, There is good and bad ways to use scarcity in your launch.
But this just peeves people off when he sais it's only to 500 people, then a week later.. opens it up again, then again and again and ohhh. once again..lol.

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tommyp

17 years ago

Yea, I was the one who sent pixguy the guesstimate on what he thought of the course. It was easy really because that's often the case with many things.

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jimsomchai

17 years ago

Hi PG and Tommy,

I too repeatedly receive his promotional emails on Adwords code although I thought the sale was over.

Anyway, Thanks a lot for your comments and I think they are useful for the readers here including myself.

Cheers,

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LoriP

17 years ago

Just a question;
How does the affiliate get credit if the purchase page doesn't point to the affiliate? It seems to be only Michaels sales page! I looked into the affiliate backoffice and there is no purchase page for the affiliate.

need this explained with examples if you have one ;-)

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pixguy

17 years ago

Originally Posted by LoriP

Just a question;
How does the affiliate get credit if the purchase page doesn't point to the affiliate? It seems to be only Michaels sales page! I looked into the affiliate backoffice and there is no purchase page for the affiliate.

need this explained with examples if you have one ;-)

It depends on if you went to an affiliate linked page or just Michaels main page.
Affiliates need to get a link from Michael to sell it and get a commission for the sale.
If you go to the main site, then michael gets it all.
Personally, anyone promoting this product after reading this thread is a
low life and should be ashamed for promoting it.
Just my 2 cents.

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- banacek 17 years ago
  
  Thanks everyone, especially pixguy for your original review of this product. It was really the only "real" review that I found!
  
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Vjack

17 years ago

I was on the launch list for The Adword Code and had that familiar gut feeling that this guy was a good marketer & a slick con artist. After reading this thread and pixguy's great review, my suspicions are confirmed.

He offered to ask him questions on his blog - but he wouldn't publish mine - so I've included a copy below. The reason I commented was - after reading the other comments, it's apparent that there are some gullible and desperate people who are about to get ripped off. And in my opinion, that's the target market for this course.

His blog: everprofitsclub.com/blog/?p=9#comment-282]The]The Adword Code Launch

If you follow what Michael Jones (aka Michael Marzin) is doing, it's a lesson on how to take any content or a $47 ebook and turn it into a $1,500 product. By using slick launch tactics and turning content into multimedia and printing fulfillments - you create the perceived value. But as a consumer or someone looking for help, you can find better content for less that $50. (below)

You have to be pretty gullible to fall for sales-letter crap like having a business partner arguing and forbidding to release the product. Then he finally wins the argument because: " I had to put a strict limit on the number of members we are accepting."

Quote from pixguy: - "Well this is the 5th time he has opened it up for sale. And he still has the catch cry, "Only to 500 people."

Here's the comment I submitted to his blog:

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Michael,

My compliments to your marketing:

Your launch - videos - and copy-writing within the videos are top shelf. The problem, pain and solution are all there. Great job and a lesson to all aspiring marketers.

BUT ... after seeing your product pricing in the past and anticipating the same with this product - the need for a few questions comes to mind. And I'm sure gman & Daniela as well as others would enjoy your answers.

Why should anyone pay what you will ask for The Adword Code?

Here's what I mean. Suffice to say that Andrew Goodman of Google AdWords Handbook fame - is recognized the world over for his expertise in Adwords. In fact, another world known Adwords authority, Perry Marshall - thanks Mr. Goodman for his early training. Don Crowther, who is releasing his updated AdWords book, is in the same class as the 2 mentioned.

For his $75 Handbook, Andrew Goodman also includeds a premium subscription to the Page Zero Advisor - keeping customers updated to anything new or changes that Google makes. Goodman & Crowther are set for new releases and Perry Marshall's ebook is ready for $47.

The point is - people can have the products and knowledge of all 3 for less than $200. Then the question becomes:

What do you know about Adwords marketing that 3 "known" world authorities don't? I'm guessing that you will be charging "5 times more" than all 3 of their products combined - by turning content into video and raising the perceived value.

If you can't answer this value equation, why should anyone buy The Adword Code?

PS: If you don't post this sincere comment, you'll find it in the WF and DP.

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Scott Spooner

17 years ago

For what it's worth, I just checked the site - 7 days after the most recent launch - and it is still up and selling product.

So, the latest "500" has yet to be sold...

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ctutt

17 years ago

As a "well toasted" noobie, I've been burned by many of these 'slick' pitches promising to REVEAL 'SECRETS' unknown to anyone else, only to discover a warmed-over rehash of stuff we've all seen before. Have you noticed that their long sales pitches all look alike and use the same psychology? (Circus Barker)!!!

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pixguy 17 years ago

Hi Guys,
I don't mind the sales pitch so much as that's just Internet Marketing
and that is why we are here right?
However, What really gets on my bad side is when..

1. They overhype the product to the hilt and under deliver
( Hype is ok if it is legitimate, hey car dealers do it..lol, but when you don't deliver on what is promised.. In fact when you don't OVER DELIVER on what is promised then that peeves me )

2. They PROMISE the "SECRET" or "Never revealed before secrets" and then
you find out it is just rehashed info that you could have picked up by yourself learning from different forums etc..or already knew.
It is ok to say they have a secret or another new way of doing things.. but they sure as hell should make sure that is what they have and deliver.
No BS

3. They overprice the product and the sales copy is good,
so people think to themselves.. hey this guy must think he has something of high value and quality so it must be good...
Well, some products are good... And some will get exposed after people buy them and find out they are low quality or under delivered.

Thank goodness some of them offer a money back guarantee, but also keep in mind that if you ask for a refund, they may take all the time in the world to give it to you, 90 days is not uncommon.
That really gets on my nerves.. they offer a refund and take 30 to 90 days to give it you.

4. The "Gurus" jump on board and promote the hell out of something.
Now, This is fine. If they have tested the product out and believe it to be of high quality. I mean, it is there reputations right?
But when they just Pimp it to everyone..without having any success with it or having people try it or even try it themselves before promoting it.. then that can get annoying.

5. MAJOR peeve is when they use the scarcity tactic and say there is only 500 copies,
then people debate if they should grab it before missing out.
Now, this is totally fine if they MEAN it.
But when they say 500 copies only, then close up only to reopen again, and again,, and again...
you get the point.
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- joe0074 17 years ago
  
  Hi there,
  
  Until now I don't get a refund from Michael Jones.
  I sent a CD back to him by registered mail on Oct 31, 2008.
  Hopefully, he will receive the CD in 7-10 days.
  It is more than 30 days now. I still don't get a refund.
  
  I send many emails via support ticket, but never get a reply.
  Hey, what the hell is going on here ? He really means to rip me off ?
  
  I will never ever buy any product from him again !!! He's B.S.
  
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  pixguy 17 years ago
  
  Try to do a chargeback on your credit card.
  Or contact your bank and tell them he was suppose to refund you and has not.
  I tell you, this Michael or whatever the hell he's name is, is a real piece of CRAP.
  Human Garbage.
  Why the hell does it take this long to refund someone...
  Unbelievable.
  Now he is pushing this...
  Adsensewealthempire and theebaycode
  DO NOT BUY THEM
  If you do and you are not happy, good luck getting your money back.
  
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  pixguy 17 years ago
  
  Not sure if this is a bad thing for people trying to get thier money back...
  but.. Michael Jones.. umm sorry Michael Marzan.. has a swiss address.
  Inex Ventures Inc.
  Rue Arnold Winkelried 8
  Case Postale 1385
  Geneve, 1211
  SWITZERLAND
  
  Does this mean he could have a swiss bank account?
  anyway take this info or leave it.
  
  P.S Did you guys get your refunds?
  
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  Dave Fowler 17 years ago
  
  Thanks to everyone's comments here, you've just saved me a lot of time and false expectation.
  
  I'd just watched the introductory video, from a link sent by 'Adsense Wealth Empire' (same people?) and was quite impressed, but I thought I'd check it out here before registering for video2!
  
  To be fair I would not have considered it anyway once I knew the price tag, but this thread has been an eye-opener on the games people play.
  
  Needless to say that's another email list I've 'unsubscribed' to and I've also added my comments as to why!
  
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Avidpoet 17 years ago

If anyone really cracked the Adwords code I doubt they'd tell anyone. Even for a profit.
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jimsomchai

17 years ago

I see that a few of you have the issue with the product. I am sorry to hear that. I hope you are successful in getting your money back.

Actually, I started this thread just to find out about the information on the product for my consideration for buying. I did not expect for things to turn out like this. I don't mind if the author will show up and express his point of view here.

May be that will not happen....

Jim

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tommyp

17 years ago

Michael Jones' behavior lately makes me think of him as one of the biggest internet marketing con men I have ever seen. I am ashamed to have promoted the Adwords Code when it first came out. He also owes me money. About $900 and I've read elsewhere online that others are returning their products and not getting refunds. I don't have any hope of getting paid and don't have much hope that people are going to start getting their refunds.

In my mind he has to be robbing people. For him to say that he can only give half of the refund because the affiliate has already been paid doesn't sound right. If the customer has gone past the 30 day money back guarantee period then they are not really entitled to a refund. If they are within their refund period then the affilate should not have been paid until that period was over.

It sounds like BS to me.

His customer service seems to be nonexistent.

His course was limited to 500 or whatever and has supposedly sold out twice and is doing another run for the third time. Another "Only 500 will be sold and then that's it" lies.

This thread is coming up number two in Google for michael jones adwords code but I don't think people are seeing it. Too bad it's not at the top of page one for adwords code. I think that's the phrase most people are searching for before they buy it. Maybe everyone here who cares or has been ripped off should ping, bookmark and backlink this thread so that it makes it to the first page so that fewer people will be ripped off by this creep in the future.

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Tony Shipp 17 years ago

The cracking adwords code now goes by a new name adwords manifesto theadwordsmanifesto(dot)com. New release on clickbank; $77 with $97 backend. Buyer beware!!!

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- Ronbra 17 years ago
  
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tommyp

17 years ago

Tony,

The Adwords Manifesto

I was just about to come and say the same thing.

I just saw the video on the Adword Manifesto squeeze page. Same old confidence builder Don Lapre sound a like junk.

I'm not sure if The Adwords Code is the same product but it sounds like it.

The support is still giving me the run around.

I'm sure Adwords Code buyers are going to get extra angry now having bought The Adwords Code for almost $2000 with the Adwords Manifesto now being way, way less.

I have little doubt he's seen this thread.

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adrian-adrian 17 years ago

Hi All,

Sorry that i don't think like you.

I purchased the adwords code when it was first launched and I'm very happy with the program...

It is the first program that really helped me. It took me around 2 months to get it all together and now I have 2 profitable adwords campaigns.
It's not a lot, but for me it's a good start...

I read a few eBooks and saw some videos before but the adwords code was clear, direct and very easy to follow.

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tommyp

17 years ago

Well, that, coming from someone with two posts will make that someone seem suspect to most people.

But besides that the main issue here is not even really whether or not the Adwords Code is good or bad.

The real issue partly that affiliates aren't getting paid and primarily that people who want a refund aren't getting one.

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adrian-adrian 17 years ago

1) YES I'm new to this forum I'm not hiding this.

2) When purchasing the adwords code, I first signed up as affiliate...and guess what, I got the commission on my personal sale...

3) and in addition 2 great bonuses, about articles traffic and forums traffic...

4) About the refunds issue, I have no idea i didn't ask for one.

This just strengthen my opinion that this criticism is just for the sake of saying bad things about Michael Jones and the adwords code...

Again, from my personal experience, the adwords code is the ONLY adwords course that is bringing me REAL results and profits...

Adrian
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ElliotK 17 years ago

just my opinion, but I like Michael Jones products and AdWords Manifesto is very affordable. I think he really does what he teaches rather than just telling u "how to" do it. like anything, it's up to the user to implement. if you do Adwords, he provides lots of content and good SpyFu training. can't fault him for "selling" his stuff...we all see some pretty hard sell pitches from many (well known) product creators, and Michael is just straightforward.

personally, I have emailed him directly when necessary at his gmail account, and always get a quick personal reply from him. Tommy, did u have a bad experience with this guy? you're kind of hard on him.

anyway, my question is why do u say affiliates are not getting paid? it's a Clickbank product, so Clickbank responsible for payment. thanks.

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KingOfAdWords.com
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tommyp

17 years ago

YES I'm new to this forum I'm not hiding this

You couldn't even if you wanted to. Your post count and join date don't lie.

When purchasing the adwords code, I first signed up as affiliate...and guess what, I got the commission on my personal sale...

Good for you. Mine is 5 weeks late and the only way I could get a hold of someone at the help desk was to pretend to need something else. And now they are ignoring again. I won't promote him anymore, but since I did make sales when I did I want my commissions paid.

and in addition 2 great bonuses, about articles traffic and forums traffic...

You're making that a whole 3rd point? It seems tacky. Just throw that right in there. I get it though, you really endorse it.

About the refunds issue, I have no idea i didn't ask for one.

Yea, of course you didn't. It's obvious you love it and that's fine for you. But then if you don't know you can't say you think other people are just saying things for the sake of saying bad things.

At least most people here aren't saying bad things for the sake of saying them. That's ignorant to say that because you claim to have had a good experience that others must be lying - There aren't a whole lot of "probablies" in this thread.

People are making actual claims. It's not conjecture to say "I'm not getting paid" "I'm being ignored at the help desk" "They will not give me a refund" "I've returned the course and they won't give me my money back" etc.

Again, from my personal experience,

You should have emphasized "personal" instead of "experience"

Your position is weak. Your experience is your experience. It means nothing to someone who is out $2000.

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tommyp

17 years ago

Yea, the way he speaks and everything is pure conman (confidence man) talk. That's okay I guess. It's just marketing as long as what's promised is delivered. But according to most of what I've read the info is basic. It's taking basic info and putting it into a physical package, bump up the perceived value by putting a high price tag on it. It gets people's hopes up and lets them down.

To me that's not even the real problem, though. Fine, you don't like it return it get a refund if you are within your 30 day money back guarantee period you agreed. You can't please everyone.

But, I see too many people complaining about not getting refunds after having returned the product within the 30 day period. Also, affiliates should get paid because in his buyer's agreement it says something like "if you are late requesting your refund you might only get half back because affiliates have been paid" so affiliates should still get their commissions plus they are saying people can still get a partial refund up to a point.

And that adrian-adrian character sounds like a shill to me. If they aren't, then they are very naive. My better judgment won't let me believe this person for a moment.

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To answer your question: NO - the 500 spot limit was a lie. He's done 500 only limited runs at least 3 times.

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adrian-adrian

17 years ago

The adwords code is a great course, I make money out of it and it is worth to me every cent of investment!!!

I'm not a newbie in this game and still I got a lot out of the course...

If you have a problem with your commission, send an email directly to Michael, tell him about your problem and I'm sure he'll help solve this issue ASAP. He is very responsive and friendly guy (again from personal experience)...

Try it my friend and you'll be surprised!

and NO I'm not a shill, I just don't think he is a monster and i bet there are a lot of happy customers out there..

God bless you all

Adrian

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ben565

17 years ago

Originally Posted by adrian-adrian

The adwords code is a great course, I make money out of it and it is worth to me every cent of investment!!!

I'm not a newbie in this game and still I got a lot out of the course...

If you have a problem with your commission, send an email directly to Michael, tell him about your problem and I'm sure he'll help solve this issue ASAP. He is very responsive and friendly guy (again from personal experience)...

Try it my friend and you'll be surprised!

and NO I'm not a shill, I just don't think he is a monster and i bet there are a lot of happy customers out there..

God bless you all

Adrian

Well i sent an email to michael jones 4 WEEKS AGO asking why i have still not received my refund from over 2 months ago and still no response!!

Unless you are kssing his ass he will just ignore you.

WHAT AN ASSHOLE!!

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ElliotK 17 years ago

hey, Tommy,

I wasn't trying to sell anything, that's why the link wasn't hot, just trying to voice my opinion. one thing I agree with that you said, "...you've got a big mouth". maybe that's why you don't get the responses you would like, you don't know how to talk to people unless it is putting everyone else down. so it's clear who the ass is here.

I'm not anyone's "shill", and it is rare that I get behind anything, unless I strongly believe in the product. I've been in business for myself for 35 years, and an internet entrepreneur since 1995. the number of my posts here in irrelevant. you're only reinforcing what you said: you have a big mouth so maybe that's why you post a lot. you ask, "who the heck are you anyway". well, who the heck are you? are you a self-made internet muti-millionaire?

anyway, the good news is you won't be replying to this thread anymore. good luck to you.

Elliot
KingOfAdwords.com
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Gary Harrell

17 years ago

I downloaded the free copy of PPCWebSpy and it seems to be doing what it says it is supposed to do. It lets you find out what the competition is using for their keywords.

Gary

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kumisi69

17 years ago

yes when it comes to buying high end products it can be so hard, there suppose to be all that and the best info, you never herd about this info before and some of the promises that come with them sound brillant but at the end of the day you pay in excess off $2000 dollars and just get rehashed crap that and a few tit bit. As you might know by the way i'm talking i got sucked into one of these deals and i really couldn't afford it one bit but it promised the world of traffic and i thought i would be made but when i got it most of the stuff that was in it i had already herd about, but i didn't want to be a cheap skate and ask for my money back, i wished i had now, thats not to say some of these high end good are not great.

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tommyp

17 years ago

Affiliates not getting paid: I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ADWORDS CODE

Okay, if I can find his email I'll email him. I shouldn't have to. He has his help desk for a reason.

You've personally emailed him directly? Oh, yea? What about?

And besides, you are all distracting from the main issue of people not getting their refunds who requested within the agreed time frame and are not getting answers: not so much that I or some others haven't been paid or even whether or not the material is worth close to $2000 after shipping.

Being kind of hard? Yea, duh. Let's hear your hardships and then I'll tell you you're being kind of hard.

Seriously, you people are either super brainwashed or think that your experience and opinion negates other people's experiences or a bunch of shameless shills who will spin and detract from the crux of the matter.

I'm tired of you spin doctors with 3 posts.

And besides, how would you think that I am referring to Adwords Manifesto, which is a Clickbank product, is what I'm referring to when I say I haven't been paid considering it hasn't even been released yet or at least hasn't when I made my last couple of posts saying I haven't been paid?

Who the heck do you think you're talking to?

I know, posts from people like you are not so much targeted at the person you name but for OTHERS to see and believe your BS.

It doesn't matter that you don't convince me, you just have to convince others who read this thread.

Yea, I know the game.

Same thing is going on in the Google Shadow thread.

It doesn't really matter. Anyone who can't see through what some of you say probably deserves what they get and since people earlier in this thread have not been replying for whatever reason why should I. I'm not the one not getting my $1500 plus shipping back after having returned the product and not getting answers.

I won't continue to add to this thread. So you can reply in vain cause I won't see it. But like I said it doesn't matter, posts like yours are so that other people can see them.

I'm tired of sticking up for people. It's your problem.

Hey, if any of you are shills tell Michael Jones that he should give me your job. I'd be better at it than you are. I would have to get paid of course.

And if you're not shills, you aren't doing Michael Jones any favors with your backwards talk. Not as far as the people who actually have some common sense are concerned.

It would be easier to visit your link if it were clickable. You're losing sales that way.

I know I've got a big mouth. But it will end soon. I apologize to everyone I've pissed off because you can't see the forest for the trees. No worries.

Bye bye.

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pixguy

17 years ago

Originally Posted by tommyp

Affiliates not getting paid: I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ADWORDS CODE

Okay, if I can find his email I'll email him. I shouldn't have to. He has his help desk for a reason.

You've personally emailed him directly? Oh, yea? What about?

And besides, you are all distracting from the main issue of people not getting their refunds who requested within the agreed time frame and are not getting answers: not so much that I or some others haven't been paid or even whether or not the material is worth close to $2000 after shipping.

Being kind of hard? Yea, duh. Let's hear your hardships and then I'll tell you you're being kind of hard.

Seriously, you people are either super brainwashed or think that your experience and opinion negates other people's experiences or a bunch of shameless shills who will spin and detract from the crux of the matter.

I'm tired of you spin doctors with 3 posts.

And besides, how would you think that I am referring to Adwords Manifesto, which is a Clickbank product, is what I'm referring to when I say I haven't been paid considering it hasn't even been released yet or at least hasn't when I made my last couple of posts saying I haven't been paid?

Who the heck do you think you're talking to?

I know, posts from people like you are not so much targeted at the person you name but for OTHERS to see and believe your BS.

It doesn't matter that you don't convince me, you just have to convince others who read this thread.

Yea, I know the game.

Same thing is going on in the Google Shadow thread.

It doesn't really matter. Anyone who can't see through what some of you say probably deserves what they get and since people earlier in this thread have not been replying for whatever reason why should I. I'm not the one not getting my $1500 plus shipping back after having returned the product and not getting answers.

I won't continue to add to this thread. So you can reply in vain cause I won't see it. But like I said it doesn't matter, posts like yours are so that other people can see them.

I'm tired of sticking up for people. It's your problem.

Hey, if any of you are shills tell Michael Jones that he should give me your job. I'd be better at it than you are. I would have to get paid of course.

And if you're not shills, you aren't doing Michael Jones any favors with your backwards talk. Not as far as the people who actually have some common sense are concerned.

It would be easier to visit your link if it were clickable. You're losing sales that way.

I know I've got a big mouth. But it will end soon. I apologize to everyone I've pissed off because you can't see the forest for the trees. No worries.

Bye bye.

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Take a poll guys...
Go here if you have or have not got a refund from Michael Jones on any of his products.
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ok,
Tommy, GREAT post.
Here are the facts guys...

1. The adwords code for MOST people was an overpriced DUD product.

2. A few people thought it was good ( Probably adwords newbies )

3. After asking for a refund people did not receive the refund.

4. If they did receive a refund it was only after sending multiple emails and hassling the support ticket platform until they responded.
( C'mon why should it be this hard Michael Marzan..umm Jones or whatever the hell your name is )

5. I or anyone else couldn't give a Crap if its a good course or not,
that's a matter of opinion and goes by 1 on 1 reviews, but isn't
it great when MOST people review a product and MOST come to the conclusion it is shit, so then we can make an educated decision.

6. He really pissed people off with his 500 ONLY pitch and then
plugged it 4 times again and again and again, even after the sold out button came up.

7. Heres a thought Michael and maybe I can teach you something called customer satisfaction and the guarantee on your site that we know now means jack shit.
are you ready Mr Marzan ( Jones ) .... here it comes..
A. People buy with a money back no question asked Guarantee.
B. They are happy they keep it.
c. They want a refund. THEN GIVE IT TO THEM MICHAEL, DUH!!!

This whole thread was started by someone asking for a review, OK.. it was reviewed by everyone here.
Great, But then it turned bad when Michael did not give refunds...and left people begging...
and that folks is what this thread is about now.

Take a poll guys...
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nidjo 17 years ago

Hi guys I've already posted some of my experiances with "Michael Jones" but here it is step by step, you be the judge!

9/30/2008 bought The Adwords Code, paid through Paypal
10/2/2008 product shipped by UPS, got my tracking code
10/7/2008 finally received it

spent the next 10 days watching the videos, learned nothing new, concluded not worth $1500

10/21/2008 asked for a refund
10/22/2008 received the message from their support asking me to file refund request with them and wait for 30 days - did that immediately
10/23/2008 was asked to send the package back to Israel (package is by the way 1 cd, not DVD)
10/23/2008 sent the package back by Fedex just be sure and so I can track it, didn't want it to get "lost" / cost $80
11/3/2008 package was delivered by Fedex, received the conformation, asked the support what is the status of my refund
11/5/2008 received the message from support, message was "Thank you", nothing else, I suppose they are thanking me for my money foolishly wasted
11/10/2008 asked again about the status of my refund
11/12/2008 received message from support "Dear,
We don't control the refund, but the fulfillment company.
I understand your urgency, but it takes up to 30 days.
I'll check with them if they can do it earlier.
Kind Regards,
Rachel"
11/24/2008 again contacted support asking about my refund, it has now been 21 days since they received the return package and over a month since my initial refund request
11/27/2008 received the message from support "Will will get back to you!"
12/02/2008 again contacted support about my refund
12/02/2008 again received "Thank you!" from support, nothing else, no explanation, no apology, NO MONEY
12/09/2008 my last message to Michael Jones support informing them I'll ask Paypal to refund me, contacting Paypal
12/14/2008 Paypal thanks me for opening a claim and advising me to "first open a dispute to try to resolve the situation where you have paid and not received the promised goods!"
I inform them I have allready tried to do that but to no use!
12/16/2008 Paypal informs me that I am to late, I should have asked for my refund through Paypal within 45 days from the purchase - US$1674 down the drain.

As I said, judge for yourself and decide whether you will buy something from "Michael Jones", Ron something and company or not!

BTW, I have complete correspondence with them saved so if anyone wants it, pm me and I'll send it to you!
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- jimsomchai 17 years ago
  
  Nidjo,
  
  I am sorry that you could not get your refund as you wish.
  
  That can happen online so we all need to be careful.
  
  Especially, for the high price item.
  
  I can not say much but wish someone who personally knows Michael Jones tell him about this thread.
  
  It would be good for him to resolve the problem and save his image for the long run.
  
  That is just my wish.
  
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WilliamM

17 years ago

I purchased Adwords Manifesto and was very disappointed. Here is why.

One, it was nothing that Michael Jones claimed it would be. Two, the content is basic knowledge that anyone who has been doing Adwords for a few months should know. Three, it was packed with huge images, each one taking up nearly an entire page. Four, the text is often written in very generic terms without real solid content. In other words, it is a bunch of fluff.

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pixguy

17 years ago

Originally Posted by WilliamM

I purchased Adwords Manifesto and was very disappointed. Here is why.

One, it was nothing that Michael Jones claimed it would be. Two, the content is basic knowledge that anyone who has been doing Adwords for a few months should know. Three, it was packed with huge images, each one taking up nearly an entire page. Four, the text is often written in very generic terms without real solid content. In other words, it is a bunch of fluff.

Hmmm, Thanks for the review William.
Seems like the same experience the adwords code people had, except they paid $1500 U.S for the privelege. At least you know Clickbank
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joe0074 17 years ago

I'm wondering if there is anything we can do to punish this guy who ripped people off.
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- tommyp 17 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by joe0074
  
  I'm wondering if there is anything we can do to punish this guy who ripped people off.
  
  He already is. Not by me, mind you, but I noticed that he is being "punished". I guess someone he pissed off did something about it.
  
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  pixguy 17 years ago
  
  I can't believe it,
  Mr Marzin, jones, roy... oh whatever the hell is his name is...
  Is pushing adwords code again...
  
  Just got an email...
  
  " for the first time ever, I've put together a video which
  shows exactly how I do both of those things...to such an
  effect that I make thousands of bucks every day...check it
  out below: xxxxxxxxxxxx"
  
  You better get in now folks and pay your $1500 now... because its only limited to 500 people..
  Until next month when it may be available to another 500 people... but that is it ok he is serious..
  He probably will cut it off after those second 500 only..so get it now before you miss out...
  
  Oh until the next month where he will release ONLY 500 for the 3rd time or is it the 9th time?...
  but that really is the finish of it then...it is strictly limited ok...
  
  Oh ok, he may open it again to another 500 people the month after that....
  But you better get in quick.. cause supply is strictly limited.
  
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ElliotK

17 years ago

I believe all product sellers should be reponsible to their customers and maintain a high level of integrity, not only towards the customer, that goes without saying, but also to the affiliates who, in effect, endorse their products to a list with whom they have a relationship. Bad service not only creates unnecessary ill-will, as we see in this thread, but affects the affiliate's ability to promote and maintain credibility in the future. That's not cool.

One can differ in opinion on the quality of the content, depending on one's level of knowledge, experience and successes, but without good customer service, social proof is a bust. Use a network, such as Clickbank and others, to buy and sell these products. The only time I break this rule myself is for gambling links, which are off-shore, and they FedEx me checks. If they screw me, I take down the links, they lose the business. Nobody wins when you screw people.

Here is Michael Jones email, to which I have always received a direct personal reply from HIM. If he honestly and sincerely owes someone a refund, chase him down here: mj6355 [at] gmail.com.

Elliot
KingOfAdwords.com

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nidjo 17 years ago

What I did after I got ripped of by "Adwords Code" and "Michael Jones" aka Ron and company is I unsubscribed and blocked any e-mail, newsletter and such coming from people who advertised them.

Now about two months latter I believe this to be one of the best things I did, "gurus" who affiliated with "Adwords Code" usually sell c..., be it their own or someone elses.
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BigG95

17 years ago

You guys just saved my butt again preventing me from buying into the Adwords Manifesto

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pixguy

17 years ago

Hey Big G,
The adwords manifesto is a scaled down version of adwords code I believe.
Is it good, Don't know.
Also, it is through clickbank so you can get you money back if it's BS.

However, I wouldn't buy it myself as I don't agree with Mr Jones' business practices and the fact that people did not get refunds and had to jump through hoops.
It a matter of principle really.

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INFOSEEKER-2009

17 years ago

Thanx for the Refund info ! ! !

Originally Posted by pixguy

Hey Big G,
The adwords manifesto is a scaled down version of adwords code I believe.
Is it good, Don't know.
Also, it is through clickbank so you can get you money back if it's BS.

However, I wouldn't buy it myself as I don't agree with Mr Jones' business practices and the fact that people did not get refunds and had to jump through hoops.
It a matter of principle really.

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davesh

17 years ago

Hi everyone,

Is it 100% truth about what is discussed in this forum..

than how is Michael Jones is able to sell his high ticket product ???? Just enthusiast to know more !!!!

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warrior 2009

17 years ago

havent tried but i am looking into it and doing more research thas for sure..

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Nothing_is_Free

17 years ago

Very interesting... just saw a craigslist prompt today for the 'clickbank code' deal (shown below) - I wonder if alias michael jones expects this warrior forum to appear 4th on the first page when you google his name followed by clickbank (which I generally always do before buying anything):

From a Craigslist post:

"Please take the time to check all what you can make of Clickbank (You'll thank me later) htp://joaquino.thecbcode.hop.clickbank.net"

That link actually takes you to something like 'the-cb-code.com' and that slick flash movie showing all the $$$ being made so fast. The movie shows the url to be theclickbankcode.com contrary to either of the addresses above... anyway, here we are, the beast appears to be constantly changing!

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Gasen

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Nothing_is_Free

Very interesting... just saw a craigslist prompt today for the 'clickbank code' deal (shown below) - I wonder if alias michael jones expects this warrior forum to appear 4th on the first page when you google his name followed by clickbank (which I generally always do before buying anything):

I got a JV invite email and after checking out the fancy vid on the home page decided to google "name" clickbank. A refund poll appeared #2 on google. That led me hear.

Glad I did some research.

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Alfred Shelver

17 years ago

WTF Please i have not purchased a programme as yet that over delivers or at least delivers what it says any ideas as to where i can find such a program ... i am about to be bannned by clickbank for all my refunds but geez someone please sell something honest and good

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Reuven

17 years ago

Glad I found this thread today. I'm sure I saved a bunch of money and aggravation. I just got a email about his new Clickbank Code which sounds great but now I know better than to trust anything he says. I can't imagine him suddenly coming out with a breakthrough product if his earlier ones were not good.

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Banned 17 years ago

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jimsomchai 17 years ago

I thought this thread was already over. LOL....

I saw the guy's new launch from the link in this thread and went through it. Frankly, he is a very good marketer and we all should learn from him. The way he presents himself and his sale page. I might have bought some of his products, if I haven't had initiated this thread.

I have not much comment on him or his product since I didn't buy any.

I have one observation on the VDO on sale page though. He shows his significant amount of income and says that he got from selling other people's product. If that is true, it would be a tremendous success. But we all know that he has several products on Clickbank and the money are probably from selling his own products, like this Clickbank code.

I am not a fan of refunding. I have never asked for a refund from Clickbank so I am not sure if it is complicate. But if anyone wants to try the product out and is sure that Clickbank will refund the money if the product is bad. Please do so and give us some feedback.

I think all of us will love to hear that.

Cheers,

Jim
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- joe0074 17 years ago
  
  Hi Jim,
  
  There is already a review of "Clickbank code" on Warrior Forum.
  Go check it out, man.
  
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  jimsomchai 17 years ago
  
  Hi Joe,
  
  OK. I will take a look.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jim
  
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bigbearmarketer

17 years ago

I have not purchased it but I can give everyone some free valuable content that michael jones has released from one of his courses and from what I've read most everything is the same stuff just reworked a bit.

well anyways go spyfu dot com and watch the video tutorial michael jones has on there it has great value and when it comes to adwords and PPC marketing, regardless who is teaching new techniques it always comes back to testing and research.

If you really want to know who is successful with their adwords campaigns just type in a keyword on google see who comes up in the search results and watch that keyword for about a week and if the same ads or url's are showing up for the same keywords then you know they are making money.

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tommyp

17 years ago

Originally Posted by bigbearmarketer

see who comes up in the search results and watch that keyword for about a week and if the same ads or url's are showing up for the same keywords then you know they are making money.

Baloney. It's not always an indicator that the campaign is making money. And even if it is it doesn't mean necessarily that it will make money for -you-. There could be a lot of things going on that you don't know about. Even if you could clone the other person's campaign when it comes down to it you have to know what you are doing and provide equal or greater value or you will likely lose in the long run. Not to mention needing to know how to manage your Adwords campaigns.

Programs like SpyFu are great for research but if you think you are gonna just be able to run with some keywords and make a bunch of money on the presumption that if they are there then it must be making money then get ready to get your ass handed to you.

And the results returned are often outdated.

PS. Don't make claims unless you know from personal experience. Maybe you do but most people don't. Too many people parrot anything they hear that sounds good, I guess cause they want to sound like they are an expert or something. Then people believe it and get their asses handed to them and say IM doesn't work.

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solidsoul

17 years ago

scam?? whats the verdict

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luseeedwards

16 years ago

I'm SUPER NEW to IM and I came across Michael Jones' "Cracking Adwords Code" sales page today. After listening to the almost 1 hour long sales pitch. I REALLY wanted to buy this training but fortunately for me money is tight right now so I decided to do some research on the training to make sure it won't be a waste of my money and I came upon this forum. And boy am I glad I found this forum before I bit the bullet and purchased this product!

I was forwarded to Michael's sales page from the spyfu.com site in the training videos section.

It appears that this thread was started in October 2008 and he was claiming that the training would only be available to the first 500 people. Well it's now August 2009 and he's still making the same offer!

I don't really fault him for using the scarcity technique to make sales, but the comments that I've read about this product and it's lack of content worth the $1500 he's charging it just makes the whole operation look more like a scam.

As I stated at the beginning of my post. I'm SUPER NEW to IM. Really still doing a lot of research. But it is my sincere desire to create information products that really do have content that is VALUABLE and I know that there are a lot of slicksters out there like this "Michael" person, and it just makes me wonder... Can an information marketer produce information products of REAL VALUE to the customer AND still be able to make a profit? Or do so many people turn to ripping people off because they can't make it legitimately?

Just wondering.

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