SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)?

Marty S · 04-15-2010, 09:29 AM

Brad Callen made some rather good videos describing article marketing tactics for his lead up to the launch of SEOLinkvine, but the product looks exactly like AMA or MAN.

Did anybody else notice this, or am I missing something here?

Sarah Russell · 04-15-2010, 12:06 PM

I was wondering about that too. Anyone else have more info?

navi · 04-15-2010, 12:07 PM

With link building services what matters the most is the quality and abundance of sites in the network, unless they are both using the same network who cares if they look identical.[IMG]http://********************/BN/M.gif[/IMG]

Marty S · 04-15-2010, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by navi

With link building services what matters the most is the quality and abundance of sites in the network, unless they are both using the same network who cares if they look identical.

If they don't come right out and say that the network is unique, then yes you should care. I suppose that is the crux of the comparison if it IS the same network. Not only that, I would assume there is network over-lap regardless because blogs that sign up for one of these would undoubtedly be signing up for another, no? None of these sites ever publish their actual network as far as I know anyway.

I also found it curious that Brad was marketing this like it was a new way to make peanut butter, when this has been available for what... 3 years now? And why is Mat Callen pushing it too when he was one of the principles of MAN? I just don't get it.

navi · 04-15-2010, 02:15 PM

The point I was making is that just because it looks the same doesn't automatically mean it has the same network. I guess this is something the creator will have to clarify.

As to overlapping sites, that could occur even if the services looked different.

I haven't watched any marketing videos, but if the creator made this out to be something new and different, then I agree with you, this system has been in existence for a while now and all it comes down to are the sites in the network.

Brad Callen · 04-16-2010, 10:04 AM

Hey guys, I created SEOLV as a private network originally. I then opened it up several months ago to a small portion of my customer base. Since then, the total blog count has grown exponentially.

Last week we opened it up to 100 more users to further test the system and how it would behave with more users, adding more articles, etc. This way everything was accounted for before it's open permanently. When this many blogs and articles are involved, it takes a lot of backend programming to make things run smoothly as it scales.

In a little over a week, it will be open permanently. More users = more blogs = more articles = more traffic and better rankings for everyone.

SEOLV is it's own network entirely, and includes many features and functionality that other networks did not have. I use them ALL. You name it and we probably use it. So, rather than relying on others to add things I really needed added, we built our own. Yes, the core philosophy is not brand new. It's taking something that already works well and making it work 10x better.

The more links we can get to our sites, the better. I will always use all link building methods. Any article syndication website will benefit you to some degree or another.

The biggest differences between networks are:

1. quality of blogs (I know the importance of quality, so we monitor it actively)
2. number of blogs (More = Better. We're adding 100s of new blogs daily)
3. tracking capabilities to see whether what you're doing is working or not
4. functionality features such as article spinning, sorting etc.

Hope that helps.

Brad

JasonB · 04-16-2010, 07:09 PM

Hey Brad,

Yup, that summed it up very well... I can't wait to get my hands on this and give it a shot.

Thanks

Allen Graves · 04-27-2010, 08:12 AM

This opens today at NOON EST I think.

From my recent experience and case studies involving article syndication and proper spinning, I am going to try this out and see what kind of results I can see versus the results we obtained from our testing with MAN and a couple of other systems.

Thanks Brad - hopefully this rocks for you.

Allen

chini · 04-27-2010, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Callen

1. quality of blogs (I know the importance of quality, so we monitor it actively)
2. number of blogs (More = Better. We're adding 100s of new blogs daily)
3. tracking capabilities to see whether what you're doing is working or not
4. functionality features such as article spinning, sorting etc.

Hope that helps.

Brad

So are you guys personally adding your own blogs aswell?
Also whats your criteria on content which is submitted for submission?
Is it tough. I personally know the tougher it is the high quality the network will be.

Jamus McKenna · 04-27-2010, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

This opens today at NOON EST I think.

From my recent experience and case studies involving article syndication and proper spinning, I am going to try this out and see what kind of results I can see versus the results we obtained from our testing with MAN and a couple of other systems.

Thanks Brad - hopefully this rocks for you.

Allen

Allen,

Where can I get your review on MAN?

Allen Graves · 04-27-2010, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamus McKenna

Allen,

Where can I get your review on MAN?

I don't have a review...yet. Its not bad, though.

Allen

Marty S · 04-27-2010, 10:55 AM

Ok I bought it and am going to work with this for at least a few months anyway. I have a few sites that can use some link-juice and this will be a good way to get them going.

Allen Graves · 04-27-2010, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamestan81

I would say SEOLinkVine was intended to be built as an entirely NEW blog network ..

BUT....there would surely be overlap of previous MAN blog owners submitting their blog to SEOLinkVine... after all, they are desperate for new contents to be submitted to their blogs

Unless Brad decides to reject blogs that are CURRENTLY in MAN to be submitted into the SEOLINKVINE network...

Plus, I think the user-friendliness and tools offered surpass the others.

Brad Callen · 04-27-2010, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Plus, I think the user-friendliness and tools offered surpass the others.

Thanks Allen, We're just getting started. Like I said in another thread, that's what I LOVE about our IM community. So many smart people that love sharing ideas. In about week, once things die down a bit, I'll be collecting all the awesome user requests to really make SEOLV "ridiculous" :-)

Brad

JasonB · 04-27-2010, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Callen

Thanks Allen, We're just getting started. Like I said in another thread, that's what I LOVE about our IM community. So many smart people that love sharing ideas. In about week, once things die down a bit, I'll be collecting all the awesome user requests to really make SEOLV "ridiculous" :-)

Brad

I love forward to the "ridiculousness" of SEOLinkVine.

Seems to really be a no brainer and I'm also going to go there and give it a shot to see what its all about....

Allen Graves · 04-27-2010, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuruCreation

I love forward to the "ridiculousness" of SEOLinkVine.

Seems to really be a no brainer and I'm also going to go there and give it a shot to see what its all about....

hmmm - idea for new domain...

Rediculousness.com

jeremynet · 04-27-2010, 10:37 PM

I just dive in and going to test the system. Let's see how it goes. Only test will give actual results

ArticlePlaygrnd · 04-27-2010, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Callen

Hey guys, I created SEOLV as a private network originally. I then opened it up several months ago to a small portion of my customer base. Since then, the total blog count has grown exponentially.

Last week we opened it up to 100 more users to further test the system and how it would behave with more users, adding more articles, etc. This way everything was accounted for before it's open permanently. When this many blogs and articles are involved, it takes a lot of backend programming to make things run smoothly as it scales.

In a little over a week, it will be open permanently. More users = more blogs = more articles = more traffic and better rankings for everyone.

SEOLV is it's own network entirely, and includes many features and functionality that other networks did not have. I use them ALL. You name it and we probably use it. So, rather than relying on others to add things I really needed added, we built our own. Yes, the core philosophy is not brand new. It's taking something that already works well and making it work 10x better.

The more links we can get to our sites, the better. I will always use all link building methods. Any article syndication website will benefit you to some degree or another.

The biggest differences between networks are:

1. quality of blogs (I know the importance of quality, so we monitor it actively)
2. number of blogs (More = Better. We're adding 100s of new blogs daily)
3. tracking capabilities to see whether what you're doing is working or not
4. functionality features such as article spinning, sorting etc.

Hope that helps.

Brad

Hi Brad,

I am new to the internet marketing and affiliate marketing thing online. I had to seek lots of help for almost 3 years, prior to trying to run a site online on my own. I noticed you are an online authority, when it comes to internet marketing and making money online. The only thing I am struggling with right now is building quality , free traffic to this site, and other blogs and sites i own. Perhaps there is a way we can keep in touch and network regularly, so that I can start making money online, like the pro's do? I'm not very fortunate in keeping a regular job, and hopes we can network and maybe more. Thank you for your time in reading this message. And, if you'd like, you can also PM my inbox with more possible information. Thanks again Brad, and hope to connect with you soon! :-)

lerxtjr · 04-27-2010, 11:24 PM

Quote:

I also found it curious that Brad was marketing this like it was a new way to make peanut butter, when this has been available for what... 3 years now? And why is Mat Callen pushing it too when he was one of the principles of MAN? I just don't get it.

Brad...I just wanted to commend you on your promptness and willingness to jump into a conversation that almost went into a negative direction. But, you headed it off at the pass and probably have several loyal followers as a result (at least 1 anyway).

I've seen you speak somewhere before, can't remember where, BIG, SEW, somewhere anyway. But, most speakers are so hidden from the public. I just think you set a great example for those wanting to offer an Internet marketing product and how visible you have to be to do it right from forum participation to posting family pics on your Twitter background to just being genuine. My wife and I will be reviewing your network in the morn. And, that too is how it all works folks.

Brad Callen · 04-28-2010, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lerxtjr

Brad...I just wanted to commend you on your promptness and willingness to jump into a conversation that almost went into a negative direction. But, you headed it off at the pass and probably have several loyal followers as a result (at least 1 anyway).

I've seen you speak somewhere before, can't remember where, BIG, SEW, somewhere anyway. But, most speakers are so hidden from the public. I just think you set a great example for those wanting to offer an Internet marketing product and how visible you have to be to do it right from forum participation to posting family pics on your Twitter background to just being genuine. My wife and I will be reviewing your network in the morn. And, that too is how it all works folks.

Thanks. That means a lot. Let me know if you have any questions or anything and I'll be happy to get you all squared away. Have a nice evening. I just wrapped up the evening watching "Modern Family". I think that's my new favorite. Hilarious and so true.

Brad

Dennis Gaskill · 04-29-2010, 07:07 PM

Brad, I set up an affiliate link for an ebook I'm writing, but when I test the link it says "missing hoplink" in place of the affiliate name. I generated another hoplink and got the same result.

I'm afraid you're missing out on getting affiliates. If you get this problem sorted out send me a PM as I will not be monitoring this thread.

EDIT: When I tried later from a different category the link worked. Maybe CB had a hiccup, or the link generated from the first category doesn't work. Anyway, my problem is solved.

Dr Dan · 04-29-2010, 09:39 PM

Any new reviews here yet? I would like to hear some reviews from fellow warriors using SeoLV.

Dennis Gaskill · 04-29-2010, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockstarinlife

Any new reviews here yet? I would like to hear some reviews from fellow warriors using SeoLV.

There's another Link Vine thread with tons more posts in it. I didn't read it yet, but there's a lot more about it in there.

lerxtjr · 04-29-2010, 11:01 PM

Quote:

I just wrapped up the evening watching "Modern Family". I think that's my new favorite. Hilarious and so true.

ha, haven't seen that one yet, our new fav is "parenthood." Took us a while to like the characters but now we're hooked. Sorry, what does this have to do with seo linkvine? Nothing...so we deviate for a moment, big deal.

James Schramko · 04-30-2010, 12:11 AM

I am using a multitude of services. Don't stick with just one. It would be unnatural.

SEOlinkvine should be part of your link system not the whole system you use. I am sure Brad would agree.

Dr Dan · 05-01-2010, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

There's another Link Vine thread with tons more posts in it. I didn't read it yet, but there's a lot more about it in there.

Thanks Dennis I didnt see them because WF search function was gone :-(

GeorgR. · 05-01-2010, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Schramko

I am using a multitude of services. Don't stick with just one. It would be unnatural.

SEOlinkvine should be part of your link system not the whole system you use. I am sure Brad would agree.

Yes he would, he also stated clearly that for his prime example for that weight loss site he did not ONLY use his network.

pearsonbrown · 05-02-2010, 02:03 AM

The posts on this thread are no longer comparing the two products. Please use

SEO LinkVine

instead.

04-15-2010, 09:29 AM	#1
Marty S Screencaster Yoda War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,505 Blog Entries: 17 Thanks: 268 Thanked 340 Times in 230 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? Brad Callen made some rather good videos describing article marketing tactics for his lead up to the launch of SEOLinkvine, but the product looks exactly like AMA or MAN. Did anybody else notice this, or am I missing something here?

04-15-2010, 12:06 PM	#2
Sarah Russell CommonSenseMarketing.net War Room Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 695 Thanks: 88 Thanked 275 Times in 58 Posts Social Networking	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? I was wondering about that too. Anyone else have more info?

04-15-2010, 12:07 PM	#3
navi Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tempe,AZ Posts: 37 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? With link building services what matters the most is the quality and abundance of sites in the network, unless they are both using the same network who cares if they look identical.[IMG]http://********************/BN/M.gif[/IMG]

04-15-2010, 02:15 PM	#5
navi Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tempe,AZ Posts: 37 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? The point I was making is that just because it looks the same doesn't automatically mean it has the same network. I guess this is something the creator will have to clarify. As to overlapping sites, that could occur even if the services looked different. I haven't watched any marketing videos, but if the creator made this out to be something new and different, then I agree with you, this system has been in existence for a while now and all it comes down to are the sites in the network.

04-16-2010, 10:04 AM	#6
Brad Callen Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 2,398 Thanks: 329 Thanked 270 Times in 179 Posts	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? Hey guys, I created SEOLV as a private network originally. I then opened it up several months ago to a small portion of my customer base. Since then, the total blog count has grown exponentially. Last week we opened it up to 100 more users to further test the system and how it would behave with more users, adding more articles, etc. This way everything was accounted for before it's open permanently. When this many blogs and articles are involved, it takes a lot of backend programming to make things run smoothly as it scales. In a little over a week, it will be open permanently. More users = more blogs = more articles = more traffic and better rankings for everyone. SEOLV is it's own network entirely, and includes many features and functionality that other networks did not have. I use them ALL. You name it and we probably use it. So, rather than relying on others to add things I really needed added, we built our own. Yes, the core philosophy is not brand new. It's taking something that already works well and making it work 10x better. The more links we can get to our sites, the better. I will always use all link building methods. Any article syndication website will benefit you to some degree or another. The biggest differences between networks are: 1. quality of blogs (I know the importance of quality, so we monitor it actively) 2. number of blogs (More = Better. We're adding 100s of new blogs daily) 3. tracking capabilities to see whether what you're doing is working or not 4. functionality features such as article spinning, sorting etc. Hope that helps. Brad

04-16-2010, 07:09 PM	#7
JasonB HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: On TOP of the SEO World, Florida Posts: 351 Thanks: 118 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? Hey Brad, Yup, that summed it up very well... I can't wait to get my hands on this and give it a shot. Thanks

04-27-2010, 08:12 AM	#8
Allen Graves PromoteMyArticles.com War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 2,469 Blog Entries: 13 Thanks: 608 Thanked 691 Times in 304 Posts	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? This opens today at NOON EST I think. From my recent experience and case studies involving article syndication and proper spinning, I am going to try this out and see what kind of results I can see versus the results we obtained from our testing with MAN and a couple of other systems. Thanks Brad - hopefully this rocks for you. Allen

04-27-2010, 10:55 AM	#12
Marty S Screencaster Yoda War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,505 Blog Entries: 17 Thanks: 268 Thanked 340 Times in 230 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? Ok I bought it and am going to work with this for at least a few months anyway. I have a few sites that can use some link-juice and this will be a good way to get them going.

04-27-2010, 10:37 PM	#17
jeremynet Success is a journey... Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: , , . Posts: 132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? I just dive in and going to test the system. Let's see how it goes. Only test will give actual results

04-29-2010, 07:07 PM	#21
Dennis Gaskill Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wisconsin, USA. Posts: 4,143 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,831 Thanked 3,890 Times in 1,898 Posts Social Networking	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? Brad, I set up an affiliate link for an ebook I'm writing, but when I test the link it says "missing hoplink" in place of the affiliate name. I generated another hoplink and got the same result. I'm afraid you're missing out on getting affiliates. If you get this problem sorted out send me a PM as I will not be monitoring this thread. EDIT: When I tried later from a different category the link worked. Maybe CB had a hiccup, or the link generated from the first category doesn't work. Anyway, my problem is solved.

04-29-2010, 09:39 PM	#22
Dr Dan RockStarInLife War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 1,543 Thanks: 164 Thanked 366 Times in 252 Posts Social Networking	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? Any new reviews here yet? I would like to hear some reviews from fellow warriors using SeoLV.

04-30-2010, 12:11 AM	#25
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,236 Thanks: 134 Thanked 427 Times in 205 Posts Social Networking	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? I am using a multitude of services. Don't stick with just one. It would be unnatural. SEOlinkvine should be part of your link system not the whole system you use. I am sure Brad would agree.

05-02-2010, 02:03 AM	#28
pearsonbrown Grumpy Old Moderator War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Spending the winter in France Posts: 1,091 Thanks: 716 Thanked 352 Times in 157 Posts	Re: SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)? The posts on this thread are no longer comparing the two products. Please use SEO LinkVine instead.