trinitron00

Since christmas has come and gone and Amazon said it was one of their best ever, I just want to know if any warrior has any results (good or bad) to share from using info product killer to promote christmas products during this season.

Also I am thinking of getting the product now, do you think it would be useful for the coming year or should I wait till November next year.

Thank you

Eben

i also got this product last month but unfortunately had to put it on the back burner since i got involved in another more lucrative project at the time..

right now im planning on starting the IPK year around strategy soon so some input from the folks and how much they made this past month is much appreciated.

kevinw1

I used IPK starting in late October. I definitely had good results with it - I've never managed to make more than pocket change with Amazon before - but nothing like the large amounts talked about in the sales letter. The results from his specific SEO techniques were mixed.

I don't know how well the year-round strategy works as I haven't started with that.

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J Elizabeth Dize

I had good results...over 3K from 11 or so mini sites. With PPC costs I'm about $2,400 ahead. I started in early November and didn't have time to do much with it after the first week. So I was pleased when some of my sites got top positions without additional effort.

IPK is the main part of my business plan for this coming year

Lesley Huntley

You'll need longer than November. I wish I had've had a month or so more, I started mid October.

Like Jen, most of my 20 sites hit top spot. The on page SEO he talks about really taught me a thing or two. The IPK team were not wrong there.

However, over December, I made just over 2k. About $98,000 short of what the sales letter said was made last year (around £50,000). I have to say I was a little disappointed. I don't blame the IPK team though, I think they did a sterling job and their support was legendary (immediate, personable replies to my emails, etc).

I think the timing was wrong. The current economic climate, not as much money around, many people jumping on the bandwagon - this being a very easy system to follow meant page one was shared with many IPK clone sites.

I spent a lot of time creating these sites, and I gave this everything I had. I feel a little jaded after it, and I'm a bit tired. I've been at this close to 4 years, and I don't think my fortune will be made as an Amazon affiliate. For this reason, I won't be pursuing this avenue in 2009. I'll be following the offline gold path this year I think.

Wish me luck!

RC7000

Perhaps the specific items you promoted weren't as popular as you thought?

Perhaps the one you promoted were saturated?

It has NOTHING to do with the economy.. online spending was up.

Tony X

RC7000,

I was thinking the same thing when I read what Lesley wrote. Amazon reported that they had one of the best Christmas' the year. So, the lack of making money isn't due to the economy.

It could have been the products you picked, the keywords you were targetting, or a number of other factors.

Christ Follower...

Lesley Huntley

For my mother site, I picked products in the top 10 best sellers at Amazon. For example, I made a page that featured the top 10 best sellers in every age range, and had a link to a separate page that featured that product, purely for SEO. These were advertised as the top 10 best sellers at Amazon as of December 1st.

For example, this was how I chose my products for the age ranges for my mother site. This is the top 20 bestsellers for babies right now (birth to 24 months):

Amazon.com: Birth to 24 Months: Toys & Games

My keyword research was what I spent the most time on. I was already an SEO geek before I started this project. I understand this is the foundation of a successful website, so as much time was spent in this area as developing the actual site. Like I said, I was page one for key buying phrases, and at least half for the product names themselves. You don't get that through bad optimisation. My calls to action were many and varied, without being overwhelming.

As for the products being saturated, I had a range of products from those in the top 10 bestsellers at Amazon, to those much further down the list. I started with one product that was #300 odd, but found its way into the top 10 in the last weeks of December. Asides from a couple (I chose Nintendo DS Lite - far too saturated), I feel my products were very good choices.

As for other factors, I showed my sites to the IPK team and they said they were outstanding, everything was exactly as they suggested, and then some. They are an awesome bunch of guys. I don't blame the system at all, because it is solid.

As for Amazon having their best Christmas ever, could this be due to the efforts of many IPK system followers? My efforts in December alone sent them $25,809.70 worth of business. This is just my opinion, I'm dying to hear other Warriors thoughts on how Amazon had their best Christmas ever, yet my efforts were in vain.

I would love to hear from fellow Warriors who actually did follow this system, and were as successful as they'd hoped. Warriors who followed the system to the letter and had better results than I, may just be able to offer me some constructive advice from the point of view of someone who has been there, and not just state the absolute obvious.

J Elizabeth Dize

I've enjoyed reading Tracey's results (a member here) Info Product Killer Review - Real Results!

Lesley -- I'll agree that I had hoped to earn more with these sites. But I also know that in my case I should have done a lot more to get there. Instead of working on them for a week in Nov. I wish I'd put everything else aside to work on them in Nov. and Dec. But I also see awesome potential here for these. I am going to use their methods for other affiliate programs, and even test the methods with info products etc. It's very exciting, because the conversions are awesome. I wouldn't consider your efforts in vain

Heck, that small effort I made ended up giving me more income than I used to make in a month as a teacher...working 10 hour days That's no failure.

For those who are wondering about how well the sites work...this obviously has to do with the product and the time of year (Christmas is MUCH higher that the rest of the year, I'm sure), but my conversion rate and that of other's I've talked to were around 18-25%. Not bad!

I am excited to see what next season and the rest of 2009 will bring as I create more of these sites in different niches, with different types of products, etc.

apollocreed

Out of curiousity and in order to get a sense how good or bad the sytem is, how long does it take to fully complete a single IPK site?

J Elizabeth Dize

My first one took several hours...to get the hang of it. My fastest one took one hour...in general two hours.

Everyone works at different speeds But the product owners recommend spending no more than 2 hours per site

Rachael

What is IPK ?

J Elizabeth Dize

Info Product Killer -- the product we're talking about

Rachael

Sorry, I should have been more specific.

What is this strategy called IPK and how is it applied ?

J Elizabeth Dize

lol, sorry Rachael. I thought you were just asking what the acronym meant.

IPK is a method of creating mini sites each based on selling just one physical product...mostly from the Amazon Associates program (what you promote is completely your choice, they just use Amazon a lot in examples).

It uses very specific SEO techniques to help you rank for the top spot for that product.

In addition to the mini sites, you work on a larger site that encompasses the mini sites...hoping to make that one an authority

The product itself has videos, PDF's galore. It's very comprehensive, and very recommended.

http://infoproductkiller.com

Rachael

Thanks for the explanation. Looks interesting.

vicone

I also used this system. I found that Google sandboxed my sites - I expect because of the networking system used - and I made most of my money using PPC - clearing about $2000 from PPC.

I started with around 20 sites and when I realized Google was visiting every day but sending me no traffic I made changes to the structure - basically dismantling the interlinking and installing about 10 blogs to help generate traffic. I also wrote a few articles which I submitted to a few directories and most of my free traffic came from these articles and the blogs.

From the free sources I made about $700 over a 5 week period.

As mentioned above, the conversions were excellent and I was happy with the sites themselves, including the content. I can't say it was failure as it was profitable but not at the expected level. Also, like those above, the products I selected were strong sellers on Amazon.

I've given it a lot of thought and will continue with this throughout the year using the on-page SEO but not their inter-site linking. I'll also broaden the range of products, add feeder pages to collect opt-ins, etc. I'll set up the new sites to be more acceptable to the search engines, aiming to get better positions and a lot more free traffic.

Now that I'm more experienced at it and have prepared the main templates, I have a better idea how to approach it overall. I'll use what I've learned to build a much broader network with many more mother sites.

I don't expect a lot from January. However, I've done a lot of keyword research and trend analysis already and have several new mother (hub) sites in preparation. These are aimed at sub-niches which have a strong demand beyond the Xmas period.

The advantage from what I see is that, once a mother site is set up and the initial promotion is completed, there is not a lot of work to sustain it, so the benefits are cumulative as more sites are built.

I also feel comfortable with the fact that the sites contain quality content and will benefit from aging rather than just vanishing into the ether, as web-sites with poor quality content usually do. This means I'm basically building an asset.

Ivan

Lesley Huntley

Jenn I totally agree. I too see fantastic potential in this system. It is solid, and like Ivan mentioned as well, once the system is in place the benefits are cumulative as more sites are built. I would never call this a failure, but I do feel a little disappointed with my Christmas results, and this is what I was sold on.

My initial reaction was I'd be happy with 10k, and I dreamed this was possible. I basically put all other projects on the back burner and invested in the domains. Because I wasn't working on my other projects however (none of which are on autopilot yet), no money was coming in. More savings were spent on the cost of living etc.

So while I see the potential, I'm just a little bit tired right now, and can't seem to find the energy to create another network of sites just yet. I recommend this as a side project though if you do have the money, time and energy to invest, as it has the potential to make you a lot of money.

Like Ivan said, think of it as building as asset. Something that will bring you in recurring income month after month, and not a one off chunk, as for some reason it did not work for me in this way.

vicone

Lesley wrote:

Lesley, it can work on a recurring basis for you if you now move beyond the "Christmas Gifts" type mother site. Think in terms of other sub-niches that have year-round demand and build mother sites for those. Instead of building the baby sites focus on the mother sites for now and that will save the cost of the extra domains. Build up the mother sites with content and use the pages for some low-cost PPC traffic as well.

Set up a blog on the mother sites and do some other promotion for back links and traffic.

On the IPK website there is a 30 page PDF called "Last Minute Shoppers PPC Strategy" which describes very well the PPC methods recommended.

Those who used PPC prior to Xmas seemed to be getting $3 - $4 returned for every $1 spent. After Xmas it should still be possible to get back $2 for each $1 spent with a system that is easy to set up and manage. (However, remember the delay in being paid by Amazon, especially for overseas residents.)

If you could receive $2 for every $1 spent, how many dollars would you spend?

Cheers!

Ivan

JMLebeau

I've had some success with this method as well, made 1.5k$ over a few minisites but I wish I had more time. I definitely see the potential and I can't wait to see how it's going to be after the Christmas period. WHat do you guys think? HUGE decrease of the conversion rate?

Mrs S

I covered the cost of the product and not much more. I started mine in November though and didn't follow the instructions to the letter as I didn't have a multi domain host at the time. I made most of the $$ from following the idea on a couple of my existing blogs for one off Christmas Gift posts.

I've already bought a couple of domains for 09 and will start building the content in the summer so I can have a better chance at ranking.

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KBunn

I have been looking into this product, and like most of the reviews I have found. However, I have tried my luck at PPC in the past, and have failed miserably. Does the IPK provide any information on how to conduct a successful PPC campaign, or would I be left on my own for this?

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vicone

The product contains special instructions and guidance for conducting profitable PPC campaigns.

PPC isn't necessary but gives an additional option for obtaining profits. It also gives you more control and makes you less reliant on Search Engines.

Ivan

tomcam

Mixed results. I followed his techniques to the letter because I thought they'd be good SEO strategy, and they were. Instant page 1 in google, literally in less than 24 hours for a fairly generic keyword. My content was insufficient so there were few conversions but again, my reviews & affiliate links were sparse. Affiliate sales are not my interest so I considered it well worth the $70 or whatever.

trinitron00

for ppc, can you use Yahoo search marketing or any of the other smaller ppc networks or does it have to be Adwords?

vicone

The smaller PPC networks probably wouldn't be as targeted and so wouldn't be as effective. An exception might be Ask.com but I'm not as familiar with them.

Yahoo could be OK but their minimum bid prices are 10c. With Adwords you can get the traffic you need for an average of around 5c.

The PPC methods of IPK aim at highly targeted traffic. This is approached through the wording of the ads and selection of keywords, as well as where the ads appear. A lot of the smaller search engines display their ads on more general and unrelated web pages. My experience has been their click thru and conversion rates are much poorer than those obtained from Google. It's hard to go past Adwords for the quality of traffic you get.

It may be possible to do similar promotions through CPA-type networks but this isn't the approach IPK teaches so you'd be exploring uncharted waters and would have to depend on trial and error. Done properly with Adwords, it's close to a sure thing.

In your earlier post:

Don't wait till later in the year. Get the experience you need by starting now and using the methods with niches that have year round demand. Many of these will start to peak in Nov/Dec and your websites will be well-established by then to attract a lot of free traffic. A lot of us regret that we did not start earlier and spent some precious time learning how to do it with Christmas fast approaching.

There are lots of ways to use these methods now and build for the future at the same time.

What I'm especially looking forward to is the free software that is being developed and will be available at no cost to those who've bought IPK. From the members area of their website:

It's optimized for the strategies in the program and the beta version is due out soon.

Ivan

FrankHaywood

IPK is awesome. If you've been sitting on the fence considering whether to buy or not, go right ahead and jump onto the green side.

I put up one crappy site in November which took me about 6 hours as I was trying to get it right, and 10 days later it hit page 1 of Google and made its first commission for me. It's now in #1 position for its search term.

I didn't have time to do any more than that, and I'm quite pleased with it considering it will continue to earn me money for the foreseeable future. It's the true dream isn't it? Real passive income. (Which incidentally, I've read some people think that true passive income isn't possible. Rubbish!)

Apart from a very quiet few days leading up to New Year's Eve, I've just checked and it's now getting as much traffic as it was during the lead up to Christmas. Amazon has run out of stock, but I've made some sales out of Affiliate Window and Trade Doubler as I'm running price comparisons on the site. I've been blogging about it so I won't repeat the whole story here - just Google my name.

Tomorrow the kids go back to school and my wife and I start the all year round strategy. She'll be doing a site a day for 4 days a week and I'll do the same. That's how serious we are about it and how good a product we think it is.

Vicone - I think only the beta is free for the site builder - that's how I read it anyway.

Eben - I've always said you can't copyright an idea and it was inevitable that someone would duplicate it and claim it as their own. Of course that guys reputation is down the pan in this very small global community we have.

-Frank Haywood

Frank Haywood - my ramblings.

rsteadm2

I did put up some IPK sites. I put up 3 that where like he mentioned in the book and then I put up some sties using Associate-o-matic.

I pinged the sites RSS feed and bookmarked the AOM sites and the IPK hand coded sites a few times and the AOM sites seemed to do better with Google than the hand coded IPK sites with original content.

Didn't do great but didn't do bad. I love the philosophy as to getting away from info products and dealing with tangible products. I will probably put up some more AOM sites.

BTW, the AOM sites that I put up where only about one particular product or series of products. For example instead of building a site about video games I have a site that sells Madden 09 and there are probably 20 pages because of all of the different gaming systems out there. This site did well in google.

The only reason I used AOM is because of the speed in which you can have a site up and running.

Has anyone promoted an astore with an amazon and done well? I am just curious...

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vicone

Eben wrote:

It doesn't matter whether other people enter the market. Those who are willing to think about what they are doing and not just slavishly follow the system will develop their own refinements, their own twists.

Those who are willing to go the extra step and support their sites with a little promotion and a link building strategy that doesn't offend Google will get a lot of free traffic. I read recently that Google now has 72% of the search engine traffic and Yahoo has only 18%. I notice that both Yahoo and MSN also visit my sites.

The PPC techniques are also available and easy to implement but the delay in payment by Amazon (especially for overseas residents) means treading carefully here and growing slowly to avoid credit card problems.

I wish that IPK had a forum so that we could exchange ideas more openly.

Ivan

FrankHaywood

Ivan - your wish has already been commanded.

Okay it's unofficial and is there until / if Craig puts one up, but there's some good stuff going on with free templates and linking software being provided by some of the members.

IPK Forum

IPK has really captured the imagination of a lot of people because of the simplicity and *obviousness* of it all. Great stuff.

-Frank Haywood

Frank Haywood - my ramblings.

vicone

Frank,

Thanks for the address to the unofficial IPK forum. There's a lot of interesting discussion there, along with a genuine willingness to discuss ideas for using IPK effectively while keeping the costs down.

Ivan

vicone

A bunch of us have now moved into 'year round' mode after the rush at Christmas.

This means we are building sites with appeal beyond the obvious demand at Xmas.

Ivan

goingup

Mayby this is a dumb thought, but doesnt it make sense to put up JUST the individual baby sites, which should get the type in traffic? Why not just sell directly from them, and not have a mother site.

vicone

Here are a few reasons that come to mind:

1. Basically the mother site is targeting a different, though related, keyword and expands with additional content so that it effectively becomes an authority site.

2. It is often easier to provide a blog for the mother site as the term or theme is broader and more content is readily available.

3. As well, there is little extra work involved in doing the mother site as the preparatory work has been carried out with the baby sites.

4. The mother site also benefits from the links from the baby sites. However, being a broader keyword, competition is also fiercer. Regardless, those experienced will soon realize that a lot of this competition is illusory as many of the competitors are merely data feed sites which offer pictures and prices with little useful content. With promotion, a well designed mother site should be able to build links and ranking and force its way to the front page of Google search results.

5. The traffic for the keyword of the mother site could easily be 250,000 - 500,000 per month. For a product/baby site you may be looking at 5,000 per month. The extra traffic is worth fighting for, especially as it doesn't take a lot of extra effort.

Ivan

Akogo

One of the tactics mentioned in the IPK reports is that those baby sites are free of affiliate links. Those baby sites link to the price comparison mother site which does have your affiliate links to Amazon or some other merchant. This keeps your competitors from easily finding out your network and Amazon or another merchant discovering the IPK secrets and revealing them to their top affiliates.

KentuckyJeff

I was considered trying IPK. I was wondering if you have to know much technically ? Are you setting up WordPress type sets (no HTML, etc.)

Thanks Jeff

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Akogo

KentuckyJeff,

The IPK course includes a template and instructions on how to edit it with your content. However, I think it helps if you do know some HTML. I did some searches and discovered that some of the IPK course takers have used WordPress to build their sites, although as of the time I purchased IPK, it didn't focus on using WP.

Akogo

USEO

Hi All,

I just thought I should mention the New Software that was released last month.

VIDEOS: Rather than waffle on about it here there is some information here: IPK Noob Site Software

The price is still held at the WSO of $29.97 (only until Friday 13th)

Original WSO thread

In essence the software was created for 100% Noobs, so to answer your question Jeff - you don't need to know anything technically at all, evenn the free template and how-to videos have been very well received by noobs.

Craig
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vicone

There are now software builders available for IPK sites and as well some individuals are using Wordpress.

You should check out Frank's unofficial IPK forum which contains a lot of useful posts on using IPK strategies and software:

IPK Forum

Ivan

JohnEvans

First I have to say this was the best product I picked up in 2008. There is one killer tip on SEO strategy that's worth the price of the entire course and a lot more. It works great. I've built around 50 sites based on the strategies used and whilst some do better than others in natural search, they all make money. I have to qualify that by saying that I have acquired simple inbound links via some article marketing for each site too - and from some directories I own.

I haven't yet used PPC with any of them but I'm sure I can multiply their earnings with some careful keyword research.

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KentuckyJeff

Thanks for the answers. Looks like I'm going to have to try IPK.

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Bill Guthrie

Hi all,
I'm interviewing the creator of Info Product Killer (IPK) today. We had a preliminary call earlier this morning, and I have to tell you I'm completely impressed with Craig.

I could tell right away he was sincere and sees IPK as a very unique product in the market.

PM me if you're interested in getting the interview...or check out my site. I should have the interview up within 48 hours.

All best,
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Bill Guthrie

As a follow up to my last post, I interviewed Craig of Info Product Killer yesterday. It's now on my blog--go in through my signature link--and he's giving a subscriber discount. So if you've been on the fence, lots of great info and a motivation.

PM with any questions.

All best,
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goingup

Opinions please-which is better, the new IPK website builder or associate o matic from amazon? thanks

khughey

I haven't used the Amazon product you mentioned, but I did setup 2 sites back in late Nov 08. After putting them up, I literally didn't touch them because I was focusing on other things.

The 2 IPK sites have brought in about $700 combined. That isn't much, but it's more than I made with any other affiliate product (at the time) and it's ONLY 2 sites. I'm gearing up a bunch more between now and Christmas. Those 2 sites were built by hand, using the IPK forumula (didn't follow it exactly). They may have done better had I followed it to a tee.

I recently rolled out another site using his new Network Blazer system. It makes it a lot easier, but the site is so new, I can't speak on the long term results. The new site has a price comparison widget that's very cool.

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vicone

There is an active IPK forum here which has a lot of information from those who build IPK sites:

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Ivan

Mark-Dickenson

I really like the IPK course. I think the SEO content in the course is the best out there

I made a few mistakes at first... ie building a site without confirming the keyword searches by placing an adwords ad. I built my first IPK site, got it to number one and google said it got 6,000 searches a month for broad, phrase, and exact...learned the hard way it only got 5 searches a day

Anyhow, I just sold my first HDTV yesterday and made a nice $80...not bad for a brand new site.

In my experiements, I find that niche sites built in the IPK way outperform my wordpress sites by quite a bit due to the fact that they require a lot less off page SEO...at least in my experiments I found this to be true.

I also use the Network blazer software. I just wish we could host it on our own domain.

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affiliated survivor

I also use IPK and the SEO thing works well. I also just made a new HDTV site. However I did not sell anything so far. I am at No. 8 for my main keyword and No. 2 for a subpage. But I get only bad traffic. Searchterms like: What is the USB connection for? How to mount a television to the wall? A lot of techniqual questions from people who already bought a tv but do not understand the manual.
In future I think I have to do better research if a keyword converts.
IPK works but it is still not easy to make lots of money. I wonder if it is´n better to make larger sites with the OnPage Seo implemented. Like a keyword with 50.000 visitors a month (exact match) for the home page, 10 27100 visitor keywords as category-subpages and a number of subpages for the category subpages (with less visitors but easier ranking). The OnPage Seo thing could be done in two levels. The usual way with the homepage and categories, and the second level with the categories and category subpages. (treating the category page as if they were the homepage for the category subpages)
It would take longer to get a site like this to the first page but once you are there you probably could have 25.000 visitors a month and quite some sales.

Sean Roberts

Anybody here outsource any of their IPK sites?

I'm using Network Blazer to build my sites, but I'm running out of time to get them finished myself, so want to outsource the rest of the work. I'm trying to find someone to outsource the work to who is familiar with the IPK OPSEO system and Network Blazer. Anyone done this themselves? Any Suggestions?

Netafile

Hi Sean,

I did this last year, hired a team of 6 from the Phillipines to implement, using IPK materials as training, and put up 95 sites, all handmade.

After training, they were able to do a site in 2.5 hrs, @ $2.50/hr. With domain, each site ran me around $15.

Basically just broke even in the last 12 months between domains, training, etc. Also created training to outsource finding products and domains, to give to english speaking VAs on elance, but couldn't find anyone to do it correctly!!

So I wound up doing the research during the day, finding products and domains, to feed the workers to build the sites. It was grueling, I must say.

Switched to site promotion in Dec. to get them ranked.

All in all, alot of work, little reward.

This was MY experience, some may have had different results, but spend about $2,000 on the project, and have earned that back in Amazon commissions, so it was a wash.

Hope you have better results.

Take care,
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