Commission Breakthrough

Ken Somerville

14 years ago

I hate to say that if it looks to good to be true then it probable is. I can read scam all over this one.

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genegem 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken Somerville

I hate to say that if it looks to good to be true then it probable is. I can read scam all over this one.

I would tend to agree. Starts @ $34 final exit drops to $24 so yes someone is out to fleece the "magic beans" seekers.
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Miguelito203

14 years ago

My curiousity got the best of me on Commission Breakthrough, so I broke down and got it. The methodolody behind it is based on one that I had never even considered or have seen being talked about, which surprised me given how long I've been doing this. There are like 3 up-sells, but I just stuck with the main product.

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xxxJamesxxx

14 years ago

My curiousity got the best of me on Commission Breakthrough, so I broke down and got it. The methodolody behind it is based on one that I had never even considered or have seen being talked about, which surprised me given how long I've been doing this. There are like 3 up-sells, but I just stuck with the main product.

Joey

Thanks Joey for taking a punt on it. Could you go into more detail what it's all about.

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cartks

14 years ago

Yes, I am curious as to what traffic methods has not been discovered or talked about on this forum.....interesting...

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Legend Dude

14 years ago

It's about creating websites called "feeder" sites and posting links to your sites on Wikipedia. The first software shows you whether a particular niche gets traffic, how many editors the page has and how long your link should stay up. The upsell gives you working templates for your feeder site and the final upsell shows you whether your link i still up or has been taken down.

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aw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Legend Dude

It's about creating websites called "feeder" sites and posting links to your sites on Wikipedia. The first software shows you whether a particular niche gets traffic, how many editors the page has and how long your link should stay up. The upsell gives you working templates for your feeder site and the final upsell shows you whether your link i still up or has been taken down.

So can this system , like ahh ummm, like make money, or something?

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Devin X

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by aw

So can this system , like ahh ummm, like make money, or something?

Nope, it's garbage. Just like 999/1000 make money online offers.

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sharpmar

14 years ago

Originally Posted by earningbaranaba

Guys, i bought it before this thread was made and i have to tell you...

It is one of the worst products that i have bought, first i thought it as good until Wikipedia kept taking down my links and banned my ip address for 30 days

The product is pure garbage and i want to know, how do you get a refund by contacting Clickbank? i have a feeling that the owner of the product would just ignore me and go through with giving me a refund.

For anyone who is think of buying this product, don't!

How to get a refund on a Clickbank product:
go to clickbank.com. (You don't have to log in).
On the very top line in small, feint print there are a few clickable titles. Click the one that says Order Help
When the form appears, enter the transaction (order) no. and the email address you purchased with (or PayPal transaction ID or last 4 digits of credit card if used)

You'll be taken to another page. I can't remember exactly, but if you read it carefully, somewhere on the left hand side (I think) there is something there about problem with your order. Anyhow, you'll work it out when you get to the page, I'm sure.

Perhaps some other Warrior could give better instructions!?
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novac 14 years ago

earningbaranaba,
"qoute" forgot to quote
The product is pure garbage and i want to know, how do you get a refund by contacting Clickbank? i have a feeling that the owner of the product would just ignore me and go through with giving me a refund.
earningbaranaba,
You have a link in your CB receipt email. The text says: If you need additional customer service ClickBank will be happy to assist you.
To make a customer service inquiry with regard to this purchase, please visit:
http://clickbank.com/cs/thiswillbeyourinfo
As sharpmar was trying to recall - you click on "get support" where the funny little guy and question mark is on the left. There they Will ask you what the problem was.
-OR-
Simply forward your receipt email to refunds@clickbank.com with a short explanation.
Just be honest - maybe the more CB knows the better off we'll all be? Ha!

(Talk about not paying attention. I see that my reply was with plenty of others.)
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  balara 14 years ago
  
  I purchased this product without the upsells. As I progressed along the "what the heck is this?road," I realised that I had purchased an identical product a couple of years ago, so I requested a refund.
  Next day I received an email from Commission Breakthrough informing me that "Bruce" said that, "this lady can have the product for free". But (here's the catch) I had to cancel my refund request from Clickbank!! Duh?
  No surprise that I chose to proceed with the refund.
  
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  MelKryger 14 years ago
  
  RE: Refunds - some perspective.
  
  As a product creator... HOW a customer requests a refund REALLY MATTERS.
  
  If the customer goes directly through CB or PayPal... those merchant processors record the request and given enough requests, they may take negative action toward the account... (suspension, deletion, hold funds, etc.)
  
  *Product creators ALWAYS prefer you request refunds through help desk, or cust support: DIRECTLY from the vendor or afffiliate responsible for the sale.
  
  With that said, it is usually easier to get the refund straight from the merchant processor (CB/PP etc) because all too often the vendor or affiliate do not process refunds in a timely manner (or at all).
  
  Just sharing
  
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  balara 14 years ago
  
  Thankyou Mel for the refund request information. It had not occurred to me that a vendor could bear long term consequences from too many refund requests.
  
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  KenS 14 years ago
  
  What? Bad product? How can that be?
  
  Millionaires are going to kill him if he gives it away! He said so!
  
  Seriously. I would never buy something as stupid as this, and I hope no one else did either. What interested me was his "I'm the only one that really cares for you..." mantra. That's some serious sociopathic BS.
  
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  manikato 14 years ago
  
  Glad i do a research and found this. Save me $and time from another crap. Thanks.
  Regarding to refund. as i remember you can try contact us-->purchase questions and then fill out the clickbank receipt no and then next step you can choose to ask for a refund with 60days of your purchase.
  here is the link:https://www.clickbank.com/orderDetail.htm
  
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  coluden 14 years ago
  
  I've been looking around for another one which I am really interested in; commissionmogul.
  Know anything about it, or know of a thread you can point me to?
  
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marketerscry

14 years ago

Originally Posted by earningbaranaba

Guys, i bought it before this thread was made and i have to tell you...

It is one of the worst products that i have bought, first i thought it as good until Wikipedia kept taking down my links and banned my ip address for 30 days

The product is pure garbage and i want to know, how do you get a refund by contacting Clickbank? i have a feeling that the owner of the product would just ignore me and go through with giving me a refund.

For anyone who is think of buying this product, don't!

Go to Clickbank, click on Help Center then on the left side of the page Under Customer Help click on Look Up Your Order. Paste in your order number and email address and hit submit. Next click on Click here to get support. It will give you a dropdown list, click on More Options... put a check mark in Refund Request and give a reason.

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warrior55 14 years ago

The question persists, why such high gravity of 400+?
Who is buying it and why?
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- zerotoheroonline 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by warrior55
  
  The question persists, why such high gravity of 400+?
  Who is buying it and why?
  
  I guess everyones buying because of the sales video.. I bought my copy because of that..i always buy my copy 1st before promoting to my list.. and the thing why we dont see a high refund rate is simply because many of us just dont ask for a refund.. most of us simply just ignore that.. well just my 2 cents.. cheers buddy..
  
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  MelKryger 14 years ago
  
  The high gravity could be from a mix of two things:
  
  1) If you have been around the block, so to say, then of course a salesvideo like this has little sway over you... BUT... products like these are carefully crafted with just the right emotional triggers that practically force the untrained person to buy or lose out.
  
  2) Did you read my post about the contest? -- Just imagine the amount of people this offer has been sent to. Seriously, it is a volume thing. With a contest like that, you can guarantee that this offer has dispersed far and wide. More effort to "sell" results in more "sales" results in a high Gravity.
  
  > The few of us who did a little digging in an effort to uncover the validity of the offer are definitely in the minority... people are suckers for the pie in the sky dream.
  
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  warrior55 14 years ago
  
  Vow Mel Kryger has given a wonderful insight!!
  
  This could mean that Top notch affiliates would prefer selling some of such Clickbank products than promoting CPA offers ?
  
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  warrior55 14 years ago
  
  Going further on this:
  Just wondering:
  -How come customers are happy with the product and not asking for refunds ?
  -Don't the daily prizes offered by the vendor face risk of refunds ?
  -Is the vendor really paying $ 1000 daily to top selling affiliates ?
  -Whatever be the vendor's sales and promotion tactics, customers could veto their right to refund.
  What I mean to say here is, there should be something good in the product that
  the vendor is confident he would not face refunds ?!!?
  
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loutop 13 years ago

Thanks for all the comments....I bought it, then didn't receive the member area and no-one replied to my emails. Today, finally I am into the member area. But, whilst $34 is ok, to spend, the $298 that the hosting company want from me, so that they can set me up with yet another domain, isn't. That's too much to lose (again). So I will be asking for a refund
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14 years ago

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GaryBurke

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dcrodwell

I was so curious about all the claims that I bought the reduced price downsell. As stated above, there were 3 or 4 more OTOs. They are very anxious to get us to host with BrainHost.

So far, all I see is an App that kinda does a keyword search kinda deal. Nothing new there and they sent us to Clickbank to get an Affiliate link and to do a little research on a product to promote there.

They included some web templates and they are teaching how to up load them to your web hosting location where you add the Affiliate link, modify the HTML a bit and you are now a plain jane Affiliate for some product.

Perhaps the magic comes later. I am only half way through the deal.

More tomorrow.....if anyone cares!

Thanks for that .When I got the email I went to the site to have a look but the usual heaps of payment screenshots and mention of some secret software but nothing as to what it does so thought the usual and ask on WF .
I will be saving my money thank you

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mansea1

14 years ago

Originally Posted by GaryBurke

Thanks for that .When I got the email I went to the site to have a look but the usual heaps of payment screenshots and mention of some secret software but nothing as to what it does so thought the usual and ask on WF .
I will be saving my money thank you

I also got an email about this to-day so had a look. Like the previous posters, I was not so impressed. The moment I see many screenshots, I move on! As GaryBurke said, the problem with so many of these products is that you are told almost nothing about what the product does.

Rob

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MelKryger

14 years ago

I have not purchased this, so I do not have an insider review to share...
BUT: I can tell you this:

It is a Clickbank product (you probably knew that) which means:
Time to do a little RESEARCH! -Yeah RESEARCH...

1st] Go to Clickbank Marketplace and find the product.
--> In this case "commisionbreakthrough" (one word)

2nd] Go to their JV page & check out the PROMO side of the offer
--> You can learn a lot about a product on the JV page.

**ALWAYS do this for a CB promo! ALWAYS.

OK here are some juicy details:
->Average $ per sale (for JV) = 52.17$
->Gravity score of 167.34
-> 75% commissions with an epc of $9.23
-> JV CONTEST= 1st prize 2005 Bentley Continental GT & daily prizes of 1000$ CASH
-> Contest lasts for about a month (till late February) so I suspect the whole 'scarcity' aspect is a hoax...
-> "preview" of what is inside the members area (a quick runthrough of the 5 steps) --- No secrets revealed.
-> Of course all the swipes and banners & usual promo stuff
-> Offer + OTO upsell/downsell sequence:
Main= 34$ ->down 24$ -> down 'free report' with opt-in
OTO 1= 97$ ->down 47$
OTO 2= 197$
OTO 3= 97$

So that is what I learned from the backside...
*expect to see this in your inbox many many times from many a promoter!

Here is what I learned from the reviews above:

-> "They are very anxious to get us to host with BrainHost." = they set up a webpage (probably a squeezepage) utilizing the "my creative designes" = a brainhost lead-in.
****I use Brainhost and LOVE their service (hint: they offer an upsell of LIFETIME UNLIMITED for $200)
-> "Wikipedia Links" .... I'm not sure if I believe this strategy is viable...
-> "The upsell gives you working templates for your feeder site and the final upsell shows you whether your link i still up or has been taken down."
** The OTO prices seem a little too, umm, 'pricey' if that is all they do - just my thoughts.

Well, I will keep an eye on this thread to see if anyone can reveal anything more... apparently we have about a month to decide!

Tryin' to be helpful,
Mel Kryger

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lanceorndorff 14 years ago

"**ALWAYS do this for a CB promo! ALWAYS.

OK here are some juicy details:
->Average $ per sale (for JV) = 52.17$
->Gravity score of 167.34
-> 75% commissions with an epc of $9.23
-> JV CONTEST= 1st prize 2005 Bentley Continental GT & daily prizes of 1000$ CASH
-> Contest lasts for about " from Mel Kryger

sweet! dude, what a fantastic rundown. I learned something valuable just reading your stuff. Kudos.
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14 years ago

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MelKryger

14 years ago

Originally Posted by simonaw

So do I and agree your comment. So nice to hear another opinion.
But FYI and everyone's info: watch their offers and DYOR (do your own research):

Good advice

Originally Posted by simonaw

Brain Host are the super-"assertive" people behind CB_Commission Breakthrough; AND behind FPC_Fast Profits Cash (by Jordan Hall - another warrior and WF review thread - of again mixed reviews). Still debating myself per my criteria (a)-(d) in post #38 - (more criteria to consider are welcome).

I am not sure if I would say that Brainnhost is behind it -as in, they 'created' it... (maybe they did...idk)
you see:
Brainhost has a side (or one owns the other) business called:
mycreativesdesigns
As a product creator, you can sign up with them.
You simply build a template (or few), then they have them at the ready over at MyCreativeDesigns for your product purchasers (customers) to get a "free" website when they sign up for hosting which is provided by Brainhost! --see how it works... depending on your POV it is either a great or it isn't... the point here is that many many many product creators utilize this to entice you or reward you with a done-for-you website perfect for accomplishing whatever they are teaching you how to do (squeezepage/blog/video site...etc) and then they earn a commission from your hosting purchase! -!

You can go to mycreativedesigns and check out their service.

I hope that clears some things up

(no I don't work for 'em

Mel Kryger

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coluden 14 years ago

I can see you are in this with a heavy heart! LOL.
Sorry, I just couldn't help noticing. I'm actually going through the looong video Sales Spiel, which BTW, is what sent me here to "investigate". No matter how they wrap it, a blind sales page is still a blind sales page, and for some reason, it always turns out that behind a blind sales page is a crappy product. Mmmm...guess I can turn off that video now. Thanks guys!
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dugu56

14 years ago

Thanks you guys for the reviews and it saved me definitely from buying!

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gforces

14 years ago

Yes, going through the video.... I could hardly stand listening to the guy rave on about millionaires out to shut him up, shut him down, secret software, can't reveal anything, won't reveal anything, I'll do all the work for you, you just rake in the money...... seriously, the people who put these products together must think the rest of us on the internet were born yesterday.

And just to let you know 'earningbaranaba' once you initiate the refund process with Clickbank you will get your money back, Clickbank will make sure of that. The vendor may try and avoid it at first, but if you stick to wanting your money back - don't accept anything less - you will get it.

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gpxint

14 years ago

It's a software to calculate how much certain niches or subjects on
Wikipedia are being viewed per day/week/month. Then you should
generate an informative text based landing page that redirects to
an affiliate link.

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xxxJamesxxx

14 years ago

Whoa! You know a product bad when there's Clickbank refund guides appearing on the thread.

James Scholes

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14 years ago

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stanli

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Euergetes

I am VERY gracious to those who participated in this thread! I've been looking around and found hardly nothing (save a single blurb on AOL Answers summarizing what I later found here.) It took awhile to come to a single empirical-based review (the blurb) and finally this.

The thing has only been out for a week now and I've found page after page of positive reviews (affiliates no doubt), "Is Commission Junction a Scam? reviews" and so forth.

I detest those "Don't Buy Until You Read..." pieces of crap that show up in the SERPs. The rubbish on that video didn't fool me and this thread attests to that.

Steve Little, of The Perfect Biz Finder, is promoting this, though I think he will change his mind when he sees this. I am a long-standing member of the membership which teaches folks how to align a viable business with their passion/proficiency. I've long since completed the course but the membership has also helped me with personal issues and given me needed supports.

I hold great gratitude for both, that program and the Warrior Forum, which I have a LOT of respect for.

Thanks again! Trying Commission Junction is OUT OF THE QUESTION for me and will probably get dropped from TPBB as well when the team investigates this. As for the product here, it won't surprise me to see it being offered as a bonus to the next shiny thing!

Daniel- Perhaps it's a persistent typo, but otherwise just want to point out that the CPA network "Commission Junction" is totally different from and unrelated to the Clickbank product "Commission Breakthrough" which is not coming up smelling like roses today.

CJ is a well established and pretty well respected organization.

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Jack44

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Euergetes

I am VERY gracious to those who participated in this thread! I've been looking around and found hardly nothing (save a single blurb on AOL Answers summarizing what I later found here.) It took awhile to come to a single empirical-based review (the blurb) and finally this.

The thing has only been out for a week now and I've found page after page of positive reviews (affiliates no doubt), "Is Commission Junction a Scam? reviews" and so forth.

I detest those "Don't Buy Until You Read..." pieces of crap that show up in the SERPs. The rubbish on that video didn't fool me and this thread attests to that.

Steve Little, of The Perfect Biz Finder, is promoting this, though I think he will change his mind when he sees this. I am a long-standing member of the membership which teaches folks how to align a viable business with their passion/proficiency. I've long since completed the course but the membership has also helped me with personal issues and given me needed supports.

I hold great gratitude for both, that program and the Warrior Forum, which I have a LOT of respect for.

Thanks again! Trying Commission Junction is OUT OF THE QUESTION for me and will probably get dropped from TPBB as well when the team investigates this. As for the product here, it won't surprise me to see it being offered as a bonus to the next shiny thing!

I Agree with your thinking of Steve Little,Hes allways IMO,been a STAND UP Guy!! and He Must of Not read,or seen it,as hes no Dummy!! Thanks,

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rltenney

14 years ago

I took the plunge with this one and BOY am I sorry for that. Got access to the vids and watched a demo. Not impressed. Clicked the link to access the online software, typed in a search term as instructed and . . . . . . . . . NOTHING!!!!! It returned no results. I tried various keywords with no response from the software at all. I finally typed in the same exact keywords used in the demo video. Again, nothing. I finally got fed up and disgusted and requested a refund from Clickbank. Total waste of time!

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stormer

14 years ago

earningbaranaba in Post#17 asked how to get a refund directly from Clickbank.

The easiest way I found was simply to email refunds@clickbank.com include your receipt and a reason for asking for the refund.

This way you don't have to go searching for a link ... and it works!

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aaaa33030

14 years ago

As an affiliate, I got commissions with upsells for 3 other clickbank IM products with no refunds, but I got a refund for Commission Breakthrough

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arkhamindustries

14 years ago

I recieved an email with an ad for this today. Needless to say I marked the email as spam before i got even 2 minutes through the video.

Take this as a lesson people. DO NOT BURN YOUR LIST on useless crap like this.
you work hard to build your list but if you email people garbage like this, your list will shrink faster than you can blink.

Just a heads up

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Steve Forster

14 years ago

Originally Posted by arkhamindustries

Take this as a lesson people. DO NOT BURN YOUR LIST on useless crap like this.
you work hard to build your list but if you email people garbage like this, your list will shrink faster than you can blink.

Just a heads up

I got this today from a marketer I have a lot of time for. Then did a search on it after watching a bit of the video and arrived here. Glad I did, thanks for the info. Just saved $24.

While there I wrote a little bookmarklet to amuse myself that might identify if a page will offer a discount. It searches the source code for the commonly used exitPop message. Just visit this link:

Discount Bookmarklet

Then select it when you're on a sales page.

Naturally you could just view the source code and search for the exitPop code (usually at the bottom) or leave the page and see if you're offered a discount

, but if it's a video presentation it'll go back to the start if you return to the page.

Anyway, hope it helps.

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TrafficBot

14 years ago

I am so glad everone on this thread thinks Commission Breakthrough doesn't work and are serial refunders. Just more niches for me to take over and put my links on. Many of you forget the whole idea is to avoid those saturated niches. Thats why your links get taken down. The software helps you do the research first. I can tell you that my link is still up and yet to be taken down on wikipedia. Thats because I have it posted on a non saturated niche which I will not reveal. The fact that this product focuses on wikipedia traffic is innovative for me. Its all explained in members area software in action here:

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This software is a must if you want to exploit wikipedia traffic.

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coluden

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TrafficBot

I am so glad everone on this thread thinks Commission Breakthrough doesn't work and are serial refunders. Just more niches for me to take over and put my links on. Many of you forget the whole idea is to avoid those saturated niches. Thats why your links get taken down. The software helps you do the research first. I can tell you that my link is still up and yet to be taken down on wikipedia. Thats because I have it posted on a non saturated niche which I will not reveal. The fact that this product focuses on wikipedia traffic is innovative for me. Its all explained in members area software in action here:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

This software is a must if you want to exploit wikipedia traffic.

Not so sure that this is helpful, though your point is noted. I would think that the creators of the software would be helpful enough to share that information with buyers! If the makers of know that there are specific niches that work, they have a responsibility to share that information with all buyers. One more strike against them!

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andynathan

14 years ago

Thanks for the great reviews here! I had a client ask me about this, and I was about to get sick listening to all his secret agent man "stuff". Any site that does not have a way to contact or learn more without paying first is ridiculous.

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cherrytom

14 years ago

A quick "heads up" for ClickBank. I never buy anything not sold via ClickBank, as they always give me an instant refund if I'm not happy with a product. Thanks CB.
I bought Commission Breakthrough along with all the OTOs and the total came to £265.23 and, in my humble opinion, I don't think it's worth the 23p!
Keep smiling! Mike

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Gail.Tennessee

14 years ago

Hey Mel Kryger... Great CB product research tips. If you ever do a WSO expanding on this, I'd like to know. (keeping an eye on you) Thank you.

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Mediainsider

14 years ago

Hi everyone, i am very new to all of this although I do sell some of my products on line, i am still learning. But one thing has struck me since i have been looking at warrior forum and now starting to get these emails from people promising instant wealth.
Why is it that we some how think these products are actually true when the guy doing the voice over says things like. "I don't need to sell this cause im a millionaire anyway but I want to help YOU" Why would someone who is wealthy be 1. voicing over their own product, why would they bother, 2 . take all the effort to make a product like this and sell it for 47.00 3 .. be giving away this strategy.
Seems obvious to me that the bulk of this stuff is rubbish and that there are only a few of you actually selling good reliable products.
Anyway that's my lot.
Mark Aiston.

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Rankx

14 years ago

This is why I love this forum. I got a message in my inbox on youtube with a link to this video. I decided to check it out and it sounded ok so I checked out the website. Then came the video which pissed me off. But I decided to listen to see if this thing actually works until I got tired and just left it playing and did my work. Then when I saw the price I decided to investigate. So in google i typed "Commission breakthrough warrior forum" and ended up here and thanks to you guys I am going to save $34

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warrior55 14 years ago

I wonder how such a product has gravity as high as 430 ?!
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Magnet4Marketing

14 years ago

Checked out the video, I'm pretty sceptical about this as it sounds way too good to be true, however $34 is not a big ask... There are some great genuine products on ClickBank, this isn't one of them.

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raven007

14 years ago

For ease and simplicity please take onboard that there is no such thing as a get rich quick scheme, press a few buttons and you will make your millions bla bla bla. It will save everyone time and money by saying you only make money online by working hard and doing everything correctly to please Mr Google. Any product that says otherwise do not buy.

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raven007

14 years ago

PS, if you didnt know already, most products are priced below $30 because most people think that "thats not much so i will take a punt" type attitude. Product owners know this and so they make their money by volume sales.

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powertoberecon 14 years ago

Hey Guys !

Thank for the infor, I was just wanted to buy it until u guys give me this infor.
They is a saying "they is no free lunch in these world".

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novac 14 years ago

I used to think long sales letters were bad, but these videos...who writes these scripts??

Anyway, Hollis Carter & Marc Horne sent me an email for Commission Breakthrough yesterday. Because of the subject line: "Misleading sales funnels..." I thought it was just one of those occasional guru emails where they're just impressing us with their integrity - and thoughts - that they just had to get off their chests about the ethics of marketing.

The main reason I thought that was because they just had their launch/webinar(s) last week for their almost $500 'Daily Deal Builder' program that I considered buying, and didn't.

In my mind, well, I didn't even consider that it would be a promotional email.

Here's the rest of the short email:
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If you've EVER been mislead by a sales pitch,
This is a must watch video:

>>link to Commission Breakthrough<<

Shocking stuff...

Make moves today,
Hollis Carter & Marc Horne

PS - I shot you a quick YouTube video that
talks about this. You can check that out
here:

http://youtu.bexxxxxxxx
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(It's Marc in the video)

Yes, shocking stuff Hollis & Marc...

So, check out today's date. Was this a new exposure to the product or just an example of digging for something to promote? Really appreciate all the feedback about Commission Breakthrough.

(You know, a simple forwarding of your Clickbank email receipt to: refunds @ clickbank. com with a short blurb of your "why" gets the job done. However, if you were being charged monthly they only refund for one month. That's how they did it with me anyway.)

Speaking of refunds - I asked for my one and only WSO refund within my 30-day period a while ago. I went to the product owner's support email and thought that would be the end of it. (There was nothing really wrong with the product - I just got tired of waiting for the content that was supposed to be in there. The owner replied with salt telling me that he was uploading all kinds of stuff that day - too late and that he was contacting the affiliate.
It dawned on me after some time that I hadn't heard from PayPal. I re-emailed the owner and he just said that the aff had apparently broken the rules - that I would have to contact PayPal. I've had no reply from the aff either through PayPal or even a "personal" email I sent to him. PayPal's terms say that you can escalate your claim but I think they will ignore me since, if I recall, I put my claim in later than their 45 day policy because of all the time that passed when I thought there was no problem.
Just $37, but $37 is $37... Bugs me!
If someone thinks I shouldn't have griped about this here, I apologize. Clickbank just brought it to mind and frankly, I don't really know where else would have been better.
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AuthenticHealthCoaching

14 years ago

Wait... wait! You mean I can't just click a button and get rich??? Damn you dream-stealers... Hold on let me click this button real quick

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pwarde

14 years ago

Hi Guys, I thought this review of Commission Breakthrough might be interesting...

Poor, poor “Bruce Kelly.” It’s in the fine print, but one of the more interesting things about Commission Breakthrough’s promotional materials is the revelation that Bruce is a pseudonym, used for the man’s protection. So why does an internet marketer …
Continue Reading here is the link http://moneyonlinemarket.com/?p=116

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TPFLegionaire

14 years ago

Originally Posted by pwarde

Hi Guys, I thought this review of Commission Breakthrough might be interesting...

Poor, poor "Bruce Kelly." It's in the fine print, but one of the more interesting things about Commission Breakthrough's promotional materials is the revelation that Bruce is a pseudonym, used for the man's protection. So why does an internet marketer ...
Continue Reading here is the link Commission Breakthrough | Money Online Market Review

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Great review....I recommend anyone to check it on account of the article giving a link to a free tool that gives you the data Commission breakthrough purportedly find out.

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MelKryger

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JawadAshraf

Here is an article that explains what is commission breakthrough all about. Hope it will help.

Yeah guy, thanks for the link to an OBVIOUS attempt at earning affiliate commissions.

That isn't even a true review... it is an affiliate sniper site meant to earn commissions from the guise of being a "review"

I am YELLING: BOGUS.

Mel Kryger

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Steve Forster

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JawadAshraf

Here is an article that explains what commission breakthrough is all about.

Mmmm, the article only mentions that it's good for beginners, is software and doesn't use Facebook, Google, PPC, etc. Hardly "what it's all about." Especially after reading this post.

It's also full of affiliate links to the product and has disabled the rightmouse to protect copyright (wtf? I never understand that). Review sites like these appear to emulate the products they promote.

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BHeard

14 years ago

Purchased - trialled - support.
Yes the presales video is mindnumbingly tedious.

Product works on the principle of the "secret - untapped" wiki links..

The secret software lets you trawl the keywords you choose (so no easy task just keep entering till you get the "great mix")

Basically in essence:- you setup info type pages with embedded sales links - put your link on a wiki page - hope it does not get discovered and removed - and wait for all the traffic to flow effortlessly to your new site. Where folks seeking information will click and buy products.

Reality. Wiki is an online encyclopedia - but some hope to black hat sales out of it.
result - Highly unlikely as they are policed by everyday people seeking to keep it an information site. wiki links are NO FOLLOW...
So the theory that folks seeking actual information will click on the link and go to your page .. Highly unlikley..

Upsells include a "secret" area that hides you behind proxies...
Now while there are legitimate reasons to use proxies in the online world. This system is not one of them..
You need to use proxies or your IP will be BANNED...

High push for BrainHost domain - clearly the needed upsell and ongoing return.

Every Support response regardless of its question returned a.
OPTION 1: By signing up with BrainHost, they are going to build your site for you. The cost of hosting will depend on the package that you will choose
Response of varied wording.....

No support questions were actually answered they appeared to be given by live agents but were canned answers directing you to another area to get help (more mind numbing videos) or the add on or other service..

Yes I did go through them
Yes I did ask for a refund
Yes I did even try the idea
Result - ZERO hits to the page (yes I track everything)

granted it has been only 5 days
But as the video says - so easy..
The likelihood of wiki links gaining you anything is very very low...
Except maybe a banned IP (tongue in cheek)

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EmmaA

14 years ago

You beat me to it pribs! Was thinking I might start my own similar blog, but as usual am too busy.

Honestly I got this email today from a fellow warrior stating "I never send affiliate links to my list" blah blah blah. How can you take them seriously when none of them dare show their faces here on this thread. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by pribs

I recently started a site where all I do is buy, implement, and review products like this because I'm tired of seeing fake reviews all over the internet. I wrote a detailed review about it yesterday and since I respect this community greatly and don't want to shamelessly self-promote by posting the 1,000 word review, I'll only post my final conclusion and a link to the full post if you're interested.

The full review can be found on my website here if you want every detail (there are a lot) and contains absolutely 0 affiliate links back to the product. Since I know the product is horrible, I didn't see the point in including an affiliate link. Here is the conclusion from my blog:

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The Final Verdict
Should you purchase Commission Breakthrough by Bruce Kelly? I answer that question with a resounding "NO!" You should run for the hills if you ever see Bruce Kelly's name on any other product in this industry. As a matter of fact, if you know anybody named Bruce Kelly, you should probably punch them in the face in one final, desperate attempt to balance the universe.

This product was so bad. There was no new information, the creator of this product hardly knew what he was doing as he taught the lessons, and he never fulfills the promises he makes on the sales page. He just attempts to make another dime off of you at every turn, along the way giving you horrible directions that you could never make money with.

Anyone with a half-developed knowledge of affiliate marketing or internet marketing would know the methods taught within this program will never make money in this industry. Don't buy it. If you've bought the Commission Breakthrough program within the past 60 days and are now reading this review, get a refund from Clickbank.
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I know it seems a little extreme and I hope the humor comes through even though posting it here takes it out of context, but the program really is over-hyped and not a single promise Bruce Kelly makes is fulfilled in the program. He contradicts himself and tries to make money off of you in every corner of the program. I've seen a lot of products and made a living in this industry for several years, but this is one of the worst I've ever purchased. Like I said, I give a ton of detail on my blog about this product if you're interested, but the information from this post should be enough to let you know not to buy.

Best of luck to you and I hope this helped,
Ian

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ebvette

14 years ago

Someone is still pushing this, but they will not get my money!

Thanks for all the reviews.

Don

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Dee Syed

14 years ago

Mel - Great tip on checking out Clickbank for details on promos. I came across this thread trying to find out more about commissionbreakthrough and I'm glad I did.

I also noticed that the small-print underneath the presentation reads: "The vendor of this product is using the pseudonym Bruce Kelly in order to protect his personal identity for privacy reasons."

Hmmm...

Dee

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DWaters

14 years ago

I like it when WF saves me time and money. While listening to the scammy sales video and I came here, learned about the product and obviously knew to move on. Thanks for the great info everyone!

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Nile Vincent

14 years ago

My sympathies to anyone attempting to make a profit from this product...

I've seen bad and I've seen worse...

And this one takes the cake...

Good luck and God bless...you'll need it!

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gregoryburrus 14 years ago

I echo "dwaters" I (love it) it when WF saves me time and money.
I just got the email promo today and wow what a timesaver and money saver this forum is.
Thanks all for the reviews - saved me a few bucks and lots of time.
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Jemtrum

Banned 13 years ago

Stay away from it and save your money.

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