SimonHarrison

Ok, this is being launched tommorow.

Commission Blueprint

There' wasn't a thread about it yet, and all the IM'ers are already wanging emails about left right and center promoting it so I figured I would start one.

You're probably going to get hammered with this as they are paying $40 per month recurring as well as the initial commision, so expect one hell of a lot of hyperbole from folks trying to sell it to you.

Please, before we start, we can do without certain folks on this forum telling us how amazing it is and promptly putting up their affiliate link to it, or a link to a blog/webpage which then has their affiliate link on it. Yes of course you think it's "amazing" ,and yes of course you're different to "other" affiliates and yes we understand your unbiased and just helping out, yada yada , but even still, I've added a link to it , we dont' need a million more.

Anyway, I'm watching the pre launch video right now, first thing the guy says about the Clickbank earnings he's showing is .. " you can't fake this stuff"... Oh really, soooo easy to fake.

He also doesnt' mention how much it cost him in Adwords spend to achieve the monthly Clickbank commisions..

Anyway, could be solid, let's see what a few Warriors feel after purchasing it tommorow, I'll probably grab it as I do all these things, just out of interest. I do get the distinct feeling this is going to be another set of videos explaining how to setup a PPC campaign, find decent CB products and create squeeze pages.

cypherslock

Personally any program that doesn't give its affiliates a review copy (most do) is not one I want to try and sell. or buy.

SimonHarrison

I take it they wouldn't do so ?

James Schramko

That was an outragous video.

"You can't fake clickbank cheques"


"I don't think you've ever seen anything like this, I don't know that anybodys ever shown clickbank numbers like this"

hhm......

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cypherslock

His reasoning was that there were people that would post the links on forums. And yes you can fake clickbank earnings through javascript. I should dig up the link.

SimonHarrison

Incredibly easy to fake reports using that javascript, it just made me chortle a little that he's selling an IM product and made such a statement , that he didn't realise the statement is wrong concerns me as to how much of an IM expert he actually is.

Jeremy Wilson

Honestly, this really depends on the affiliate.

If you have generated a lot sales for other products of mine or I'm trying to recruit people to promote during launch then sure a review copy is pretty common but giving anyone that says they are an affialite a free copy would be foolish.

cypherslock

I'm on a couple of JV's and the first thing they do is give a free copy to review and promote. And I do. I'm not peeved at him. I'm miffed at those that make it seem like all affiliates are scammers.

George Stavrakakis

Anything on the product? I guess not since it has not been released.

I opted in but haven't received anything and the launch is tomorrow.

SimonHarrison

Nothing as yet, I'll buy a copy tommorow, see what the story is. Bottom line it's clearly a combination of PDF's , and videos explaining how to monitize CB products, my bet is it's squeeze page orientated via PPC .

What they will bring to the table for the monthly membership which is their backend , that's probably more interesting to me.

There's really only so many ways you can explain the process of

PPC --- Squeeze Page -- CB product.

Jeremy Wilson

I think we are saying the same thing :-)

I agree that you should give JV partners a review copy I was just saying that anybody that contacts you saying they want to be an affiliate don't necessarily warrant a free copy of your product.

2bwealthy

got like 8 emails from different people already on this one..... all are basically the same sales pitch. going to let others review then decide.

Daniel Molano

The problem is a lot and I mean A LOT of people offer things like promoting your products, JVs and what not to get a free copy of a product. So frankly, I've been a little skeptical of who I give my product to. Of course there is always honest people as well that live up to their offer, but it's pretty hard to know now a days.

Now back to topic, yes Clickbank "proof" of earnings can be easily faked, that's why I don't offer it.

Billy Deakin

I've just purchased this but I can't comment too much yet since there's a lot to get through. The videos appear to be quite well made, and are available streaming and for download, although the choice of FLV, even for the download links, seemed rather odd.

There are 14 in total, adding up to nearly 4 hours by the look of it so I won't get a chance to go through all of them tonight. Also includes HTML templates (review page, couple of opt-in pages, pres-sell page) which I've not looked at yet, and 3 PDF reports. You also get PDFs of the Powerpoint slides used in the videos (not sure how much use that is) and a nice bonus which wasn't mentioned on the sales letter - Micheal Rasumssen's MiniSiteProfts Exposed, and Email Promos Exposed.

The backend is being offered on 7 day trial for $4.95 at a cost of $67 per month. Not had a chance to look at it yet but the first month appears to be 5 videos on buying and selling websites, writing adwords ads and spotting trends.

I'll post more tomorrow when I've watched more of the vids!

Bill

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James Schramko

I grabbed it and watched the videos. It looks like fair value for the price. It will help someone who is already doing clickbank but failing.

It is PPC >> Review Page >> Clickbank.

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2bwealthy

how are the templates on this one?

jordanwarrior

Why does anyone even bother to write about this stuff? You all know what it's about. You all know basically what's it's going to say. You all have bought about a gazillion of these things. The only thing that should be writen about is how well you can sell it to some person who doesn't have a clue about IM.
As far as ClickBank earnings go. Inserting a chunk of javascript and some numbers is the easiest thing in the world. If he would be making that kind of money, you sure as hades wouildn't be getting hold of the secrets. Ex, don't you guard your money making sites, tips, keywords, etc with your life? I bet you do.
Commission Blueprint is yet just another product aimed at newbies or lazy people.
That's it period, dot, end of story.

Jordan

kposs

I purchased Commission Blueprint this afternoon and have spent the rest of the day reading all of the PDFs and watching the videos. The first thing I can say is that it's not alot of the fluff you usually get like 10 pages how to set up a google account, etc. Also, I had a problem downloading some videos (turned out to be my problem - just needed a reboot) but I got an answer from Steve within minutes. Can't complain about that.

Jordanwarrior's comments are a little harsh. Keeping in mind that people are in different stages of their internet marketing experience, I see nothing wrong with this product. It delivers exactly what it promises - good information about how to make a *profit* with Clickbank products and Adwords. It also includes some information I have never seen before in similar products such as how to manage cash flow and some of the more detailed aspects of tracking, management, etc.

I did not sign up for the OTO. Mostly because I specifically needed this Clickbank information and did not need the other IM info that was in the monthly program.

2bwealthy - I like the templates. I have done alot of research on review and opt-in templates and they are high quality. Ready to use directly if you wanted (I always customize that kind of thing though).

Valerie

Chris Egan

The templates look to be very good. I think what you can say is that Super Speed Wealth came out a couple of months ago, and did well with a below average product. Then come a string of products pretty much hitting the same spot about review sites, presell pages, and so on.

In reality this is alot more comprehensive, and seems to deliver, especially as none of their own success came in the Making Money niche.

SimonHarrison

Seeing as it's only 20 bucks or so with your hoplink, why the hell not, worth it for the landing pages alone, they look great quality.

Gonna go have a play with it, see what it delivers.

SimonHarrison

True enough in many ways, but who cares, it's like $20 or something , if you learn one cute trick that you can add to your arsenal for $20, that's gets a thumbs up from me.

I think we all knew long ago this was PPC-Squeeze-Vendor Pitch Page, stuff . Maybe it's just me, but I never expect I'm going to learn some amazing secrets from these things, but I almost always learn at least one small thing and that makes it worth it IMHO of course.

Hamida Harland

I agree with Simon. I haven't bought a 'product launch' product in ages, but I'm always interested in how to improve my reviews and preselling so I got this one. I haven't watched all the videos yet but what I have seen is good, and I've picked up a few tips from it. For me it was worth the money.

SimonHarrison

Anybody else having problems with streaming some of the vids, 6 & 7 only seem to manage to get half way through.

And why they choose FLV as the download format - eek, don't fancy their customer service today.

I'm making notes on each video , the key points etc, I should be fthrough every PDF and video in a few more hours and I'll post my 2 cents..

kposs

Simon,

I was using IE 6 on XP and the videos just quit loading. I couldn't even physically download them. Everything else would download (PDFs) and I'm on 4 T1s so I assumed it was their fault. It wasn't. I just had to reboot. Whenever I watch these type of videos via the browser, it does something funky with the memory and requires me to reboot about every 3rd or 4th video I watch. I just finally downloaded them with the recommended viewer and that is how I watched them.

Valerie

SimonHarrison

Thanks Valerie, I decided to go down the download route as well, but thanks for that memory tip, sounds like the problem I had.

Cheers

SimonHarrison

On video 9, so far, plenty of good stuff in here, there support however is cracking, you literally get a response in 30 minutes or less, and it appears to actually be them doing the support , not somebody who has no clue about the product, quite refreshing.

SimonHarrison

Hi Jerry,

Nope, but he does give you an idea of the margins he works on for him to be bothered promoting something, so you can do the approximate maths.

There's a post about Affiliate Payload already on the forum, some good feedback in there.

Chris_King

Umm....if you were in on this JV, you would have been able to see the product early. No one gives out a review copy to all their affiliates. That's just crazy. But if you are a JV partner, well...

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roley

Sounds like a big crock of crap to me.

It always seem every 3 to 4 weeks the dayjobkiller guys are pushing some new product which is almost identical to their previous products..

Same stuff, different package

yada yada yada...

SimonHarrison

Well, some six hours later I'm done. Bottom line, I think it's very solid, cohesive program.

It's been professionally produced and I think they overdeliver.

Looking at their forum, it's interesting to see the kind of people who have purchased, a lot of newbies, poeple who have barely made a penny online, for those people I think this will be genius, it's very clearly laid out, you can follow each video and simply mirror what they have already done, I can see how this will appeal to newcomers to IM, although some of the detail they go into in calculating which keywords they would use will be quite complicated for complete newbies to PPC, the variety of tools, they are using, the spreadsheets etc, it's relatively simple if you've been there, done that but if not it may stump some people.

Although it's going to aid newbies to IM the most, I think there's plenty of good information in there for intermidiates as well, I make a decent profit from Adwords and I certainly picked up some nice tips and tricks today. I found a couple of techniques invaluable actually, I'm convinced they are going to help me create a bigger ROI.

Where it won't be much use is to the very advanced PPC crowd, if your doing a couple of hundred grand a year on PPC, I'm pretty sure you're going to know most everything in this product, there's nothing mind boggling in it, just good common sense solid techinques, I knew a great deal of it, but it really helped to focus on things a PPC'er should be doing on a regular basis.

All in all , I give it a big thumbs up, out of all the PPC- landing page - Clickbank type products doing the rounds, this has been about the best I've seen to date.

I would say buy it if you could really do with focussing on this area of your business, landing pages, squeeze pages, backend AR based sales, PPC campaign testing, etc etc.

It doesn't try to be all things to all people and that's probably a good thing, it does what it does pretty well IMO.

No complaints here, solid, simple to apply product that's been professionally produced.

My 2 cents..

Longie

I bought it today as well, will keep you in the loop. The CB numbers do seem incredible.

All the best

Neil

SimonHarrison

I don't quite get why everybody is getting hung up on those numbers without knowing the spend. Hell in 30 days time I could show a CB account showing 10x those numbers, they would be absolutely real but they wouldn't mean I was making any money if I spent more in PPC than the revenue I made from the sales.

Not that I think these guys are playing loose and wild with the numbers , I'm just making the point the numbers are not that incredible, as it's based PPC predominantly, now if they were saying those numbers from organic, SEO, Bum marketing etc, then yeah that would be incredible, but via PPC its' all down to the ad spend in principle.

Noel2010

Thanks for that review.

Still learning.

Adeel_Chowdhry

Great job on the review.

You've sold it to me...now i'm off to buy!

Regards
adeel

SimonHarrison

No problem.

I do actually have a really lengthy piece I cobbled together on each of the videos, I was going to post it but it's pretty messy and probably about 3 pages long so I figured just go with the summary.

It solid, it's going to help out those beginners trying to make a few thousand a month and there's solid stuff in there for the intermidiates like myself, I can't see what anybody would have to complain about and they now have a forum as well you can ask them questions on.

Their support has also been top notch , rapid and direct from the horses mouth.

If this was selling for hundreds of bucks I would be much more reserved but at the price they are selling it for, I mean, seriously it's good value.

SimonHarrison

I really should start splattering affiliate links everywhere :-)

But then I like not selling IM products, allows me to be objective.

martinp

Sounds like ... Does that mean you've read it then? Obviously not, seeing as you don't even know whose product it is - these aren't the dayjobkiller guys. This isn't the same stuff, and if you looked at the reviews of those who actually bought and read it you'd see that most people actually learnt something from it.

martinp

For those who are asking about adspend - maybe I’m wrong here but I think these guys are expecting us to spend in the region of $500 - 800 a day. Now I haven’t finished watching the vids myself, but from what I’ve seen, you pick 4-6 products, look for approx. 500 clicks per product per day, and pay 20-30c per click. They don’t mention an adspend number of course, I’m just surmising from what I’ve seen.

Also if you look at the daily statistics screenshot on their sales page – the number of visits ranges from between 1000 and 2000. If they’re paying approx. 30c per click then you can see for yourself what kind of adspend you might have.

Not that I have any problem spending money to make money, but for those that the product is aimed at (primarily newbies to intermediate) it’ll be a slow process building your earnings up in the beginning.

Having said that though, I'm looking forward to trying out PPC properly. I've done it in the past but unfortunately hadn't the patience to start small, however I think what I've learnt from Commission Blueprint will be very useful, and now that I can afford a slightly bigger adspend the sky's the limit.

SimonHarrison

Your on the right tracks, but I have spent the entire day looking at this product, so I have it pretty clear.

1) You don't need to actually run 4-6 at the same time, I would say that's for when you're more familiar with the process and you're already generating a ROI from your existing campaigns/winners.

I think your right, that perhaps that should have been made clearer, but the comment about running multiple product tests concurrently was quite off the cuff, and would be for those already 100% on the ball with the system and have it down pat. I think as you say this has been aimed between beginners and intermidiates and there's no way they believe your average newbie could manage 6 different product tests , campaigns and all the testing that entails , all at the same time before they had the process down pat.

2) Re the amounts, in later videos they say they prefer $500 a day spend, so you don't ditch a winner due to not giving it a full chance, but when they started out they used as little as $150 a day to test the waters, and I strongly suggest newbies do something similar.

Also remember you may crash and burn somewhat but you will make some sales, if you've chosen a decent product with a safe gravity, you can be pretty assured that as you have done a lot of work on your keywords list your going to make some sales to recoup your PPC investment , you won't lose your shirt, just perhaps 1 sock..

My advice for what it's worth would be take the process, apply it to a singular campaign, really get laser focussed and have the entire system down pat, limit your dailly spend to $200, and tweak , tweak , tweak, test, split test, follow the guidelines.

At least that's my advice to newbies, more advanced PPC'ers should be able to slide straight into this and improve the ROI just by watching the videos. You may even find you don't even need to touch your landing pages.

James Schramko

This product is not for 100% newbies - it is for the next stage.

If you already use PPC and you have a site up and you are an affiliate marketer but you don't know how to find a winner, or anything about scale then this will fill in some gaps.

It is a middle product that will shoe you a few methods you don't already know and how to use a few tools you need to use like speed ppc and adwords editor.

You will need to invest hours learning and applying the ideas discussed and you will need to wrap your head around investing a lot more dollars into your advertising budget to get a lot more out.

These guys are spending thousands per day to generate thousands per day.

It is too basic for advanced marketers because they do not discuss advanced techniques such as non-clickbank, llist building, network advertising or big back end etc...

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David Neale

Simon I'll probably buy this based on your review. I see the price is $77, even through a hoplink that's about $47 not $20. Did they raise the price?

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SimonHarrison

Hi David, you get about $42 + change, so my bad it's gonna cost ya nearly $35, in my head I had it as a $67 product not $77.

Just to add to James comments, he makes a good point, IMO , although I would say it's perfectly placed for a IM newbie to do well ,if your a complete PPC newbie, you may need additional material as they specifically do not go into the absolute basics like setting up and Adwords account etc, they make it very clearly early on that there's a million free sites you can visit including Adwords own help pages that will help you with the absolute basics.

But past those basics, they do give video lessons on how to set up everything up from that point. And yes, make no bones about it, James is spot on, you will need to invest some time to make this work.

Looking at your sig, your an Adwords pro, your going to be able to move past a lot of the learning curve and just get into the meat immediately, I think you'll think it was worth it just for a couple of the modules, hopefully they won't be to basic for you, but I think there's some good tools used and nice tricks in there that most wil benefit from.

In order to make it as succesful as they have, they are very careful about keyword choices, very careful about bids, there is a lot of maths going on behind the scenes which they fully explain, and quite a lot of tools used to make it work the way it does, there is a learning curve and it could take quite a few days to master the ins and outs of the system.

I'm not the sharpest tool in the toolbox so I have had to watch the calculations video twice now and I'm actually going to watch it a third time today.

It's not a quick fix, however it is a great solution to the problem which most fail with which is making a buck from PPC.

Why I recommended it in a nutshell is that it wins the "most complete system" award, as far as the PPC - Landing Page - Commision Network model goes, nobody else has delivered this much content for so little, not that I've seen, not close and it's very much a leave no stone unturned type deal.

Dont'e expect it to deal with SEO, infact pretty much anything out of the area of PPC - Landing Page - and Clickbank, they really don't , you will be dissapointed but if those 3 areas are of interest to ya, I don't think it gets much better than this in the white hat area.

Roy Carter

James - You mentioned speed ppc and adwords editor. Does that mean that buyers of the product will have to spend more on software that they recommend to do the job?

Roy

James Schramko

Roy,

Adwords editor is free - you just have to get a handle on it for the method these guys use because of the volume.

You will only get so far without using automation tools like speed ppc etc...

This is where those big cheques come from - when you find a winner you will want every single long tail, short tail working for you. (Keyword combos with modifiers).

or, you can scale by using other traffic sources these guys don't mention.

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Roy Carter

James - Thanks for that. I'm not buying it but I thought it would be useful for people reading this thread to know if any more expenditure would be needed in order to get the most out of the product.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Roy

Barry Plaskow

Not impressed TBH.Any product sale that starts with the end 1st worries me.

SarahMcHarry

I bought this with the intention of reviewing it but so far I'm not very impressed.

The videos kick out about halfway through if you watch online. So I downloaded them all and the FLV files won't play in Windows Media File 10 or 11 on my computer. I am not happy about having to continually reboot my computer - did they test this, or not?

I looked at the PDFs and they contain some terrible spelling mistakes which puts me off. I figure that if someone is smart enough to launch a megabuck product they ought to be smart enough to employ an editor to clean up their text.

I'm very disappointed.

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SimonHarrison

Sarah,

Look at the top of their download page, it gives you the correct software to view the files in they all work perfectly.

I also had problems streaming, it's some kind of weird memory issue, turn your PC on and off again and you'll find they all work from then on, streaming or otherwise.

Personally I just found downloading was the answer, works perfectly.

rags

Just adding that if you begin to click away from the sales page you'll be offered $10 discount from one of those virtual chat assistant thingies. So it will be $67.

SimonHarrison

Ahh, that's why I remembered it as $67, at least I'm not going completely senile.