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Old 06-02-2013, 02:57 AM   #1
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I got email today regarding matt lloyd's my top tier business. Anyone joined this and any feedback? It says its free but costs just 49 to join to keep tire tickers out and if selected, we pay nothing for this and there is a guarantee of 500 dollars if we dont make 1000 bucks in 30 days and follow a 21 step system. he says it costs 5000 as training and we get it free and need not pay it until we make 50,000? Any reviews guys, planning to join this.
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Hi, macmani,

I joined 9 days ago, probably from the same mailing you received, and paid the $49. The trickled training that I took was pretty good and the future looked promising.

Then, surprise!!!!! At around the end of the first week I was informed I had to buy a MOBE license for $1997 in order to continue.

Somebody forgot to mention it in the advertising...

I actually signed a non-disclosure agreement while I was digesting this new information. But I don't want eat into my monetary resources to the tune of $2K before I'm assured the products will sell.

Those products seem to be good quality.

It remains to be proven to me how many affiliates of the system can make a decent living, let alone driving around in their own Mercedes.

But for now, I'm on the sidelines.

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Heya Mac,

I've recently become a Licensee of Matt Lloyd's and I can say that it DOES take some work to get it running.

Coaching wise it's pretty solid but it is definitely focused around the MOBE series of products.

If you have any questions regarding it, let me know I can answer any questions. Just shoot me a PM.
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Default Re: my top tier business, matt lloyd

I'm fully positioned in the MOBE business so I thought I'd drop a post and tell my point of view.

The products are top quality and the 1-1 coaching you'll get with the 21 Step My Top Tier system is very valuable.

The MOBE licence and some other products can be pricey, but you get what you pay for and the affiliate payouts are high.

It's a great system for getting people actually making money online.

It's good to promote as an affiliate because the MOBE system and coaches take care of your customers.

You can add additional services/value to your customers if you want (like I do).

Cheers,
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What is the MOBE licence?
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I knew it! there is definitely a catch somewhere!
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The MOBE Licence gives you the licence rights to sell the core MOBE products for 90% commission (ranging from $87 to $267) and re-sell the MOBE licence itself for 50% commission ($1K).

Considering the time and skills it takes to create your own products, it's a pretty good deal.

PM me if you want more info and I'll send you a link to a video.

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Hi guys -

Total transparency here - I've been selling Matt's stuff for about 18mos. And I've made $ (feel free to PM for a screenshot - though I would ask for your discretion) ... it's not a fortune, but it's nothing to sneeze at either.

I don't drive cold traffic so don't ask me for conversion numbers or anything. I have a small responsive list that I treat very well and they in turn buy the stuff I recommend.

Am liking this MTTB funnel very well, not too clear on the sales page wording, it's being tweaked to be as clear, yet irresistible as possible (a gotcha feeling does no one any good) but the content up to the point that Maurice mentions is worth the $49 and then some imho - especially to folks who aren't clear about why large commissions are so much more powerful than small ones or who have yet to fully 'get' what's possible with the economics side of high ticket IM.

They're literally like night and day vs. one off affiliate commissions.

Changed our family's reality (MOBE and 2 others).

Matt's a solid and thorough teacher, my folks come out the other side with what they need to take further action, he creates upsell offers that convert and he pays on time.

That's a winning combo in my book.

Hope that helps,
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I knew it! there is definitely a catch somewhere!
When it sounds too good to be true....
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I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
and never ask you for a single dime for it
until AFTER you make money with it.
- That was part of the sales letter...

1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
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Guys don't bother with this MTTB program.

You will be required to pay $2k just to become affiliate of their products. And that too without really having clue as to the salesletters of products u will be asked to promote or any other material that can aid marketing.

Tell me does clickbank/ebay/amazon or many others charge you any monies to become affiliate? Off course no. So why the heck are these guys charging $2k for what effectively is to become affiliate of their products.

Also on their salesletter they say things like each of the 21 step will take you 30 minutes to complete. But I covered 3 steps and they all seem to have recordings of seminar presentations lasting 1 hour & more.

Just hate these kind of things. So fed up of such tactics.
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I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
and never ask you for a single dime for it
until AFTER you make money with it.
- That was part of the sales letter...

1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
So halfway thru the 21 steps I need to buy a $2000 license? If I don't, means I didn't complete a step, so forfeit $500 guarantee, plus $49 already paid?
Please clarify...
What did you do, Maurice?
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I just signed up yesterday. Now i read this post and start smelling fishy.
I will see how i goes and keep everyone update
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(From anyone who’s tried this…) if we get on board how do they expect us to promote their products?
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Heya Mac,

I've recently become a Licensee of Matt Lloyd's and I can say that it DOES take some work to get it running.

Coaching wise it's pretty solid but it is definitely focused around the MOBE series of products.

If you have any questions regarding it, let me know I can answer any questions. Just shoot me a PM.
Hi! I'm new on the board and I just signed up yesterday. I was wondering if it would be okay if I PM'd some questions?
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The MOBE Licence gives you the licence rights to sell the core MOBE products for 90% commission (ranging from $87 to $267) and re-sell the MOBE licence itself for 50% commission ($1K).

Considering the time and skills it takes to create your own products, it's a pretty good deal.

PM me if you want more info and I'll send you a link to a video.
Hi gilsky,
I'm a bit confused about My Tier Top Business. The sales vid looks a bit hyped but it sounds good.
But reading the posts of this thread some red lights turned on in my head.
What do you get for those $49
Supposedly if you go to the end of the30 days and don't earn the $1,000 they'll refund you and give you a $500 as compensation, but it seems that in the middle of the road you are forced to step into $1,997 MOBE to carry on. Is that so?
What is FREE in MTTB? Looks like a scam so far.
Can you clear up this please
Thank you
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My email response to Matt:

After watching the sales video,
Seeing that it was free to join...
Oh Yeah... you need to put up the $ 49.00 to keep out the tire kickers.
Not disclosed... $ 2,000.00 License fee coming later.

Matt LLoyd;

I am so glad I visited the Warrior Forum and read the reviews, before getting
sucked into your scheme. Two weeks later after paying the 49.00, I will have
to put up another $ 2,000.00 ??? , evidently making you some good commission, while I
will still be stuck in training, and watching 1 hour stale videos.

You should disclose the $ 2,000.00 up front. You are a dishonest scammer, and
prey upon unknowing people who get sucked into your schemes, without researching
first. To bad for them.

Your business is only for those who can sleep at night after ripping others off.

But as for me.... I am unsubscribing from your list, and posting this on the Warrior Forum.

If these reviews I have read are not true, you are welcome to respond, as I and other
inquiring minds would like to know.

I am not questioning the value of the product, and if it works or not, as I am not going to
part with $ 2,000.00 to find out.

I am posting to expose your marketing tactics, and non-disclosure, as the undisclosed
$ 2,000.00 license fee would be a deal killer for many who would initially pay the ( free ?? ) $ 49.00

As for now... I smell something rotten in the state of Panama City ( from where you stated you were at during the email ).

This may seem a harsh post... but how many lost $ 49.00 to this tactic?

Looking for Truth...

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This reply could be taken in many different ways.

You may think I'm defending him. You may think I AM him in disguise lol.

You may even think I'm one of his "lackeys" trying to sound like My Top Tier Business is the most amazing thing ever.

So allow me to just start off by saying, look at my previous posts. Just a little over a year ago I was BRAND spanking new to Internet Marketing. I first stated trying to get into CPA advertising, hoping to make it rich by sending people to crappy offers that would pay me 50 cents a lead.

Eventually, I was able to meet a pretty cool cat on the WF who was a successful marketer, became a part of his team and pretty much lost interest in anything else.

This year, I was able to become a part of Matt Lloyd's affiliate program and I gotta say it's pretty legit. I've been a MOBE License Rights member since April and from April to June I had made around $1,100 bucks. Nothing to shake a finger at, especially for something I hadn't really been pushing at the time.

MTTB is a system he just came out with and while I agree the message of it is a little confusing (and some can take it as "scammy")...it's far from a scam.

I just got back from being at his Supercharge Summit in Chicago and I've met him personally. I've had time to talk to him one on one and he's even helped me with pointers on a business plan I'm working on.

That's not a sign of a scammer.

Like I said above, I'm more than happy to try to answer any questions, but I really don't frequent the WF that often anymore. Shoot me a PM and I can add you on Facebook.

As far as results, I can tell you that since around the beginning of July (When I finished the MTTB Course) I've made more money than I have in 4 weeks than I did from April to June.

If you follow the system, it DOES work. You have to remain consistent.

And honestly? If you already have a system making you money then by all means stick with it. For some of us, having a coach and a community of like minded individuals (my friends I've met in through MOBE) really aids in our success.

I've been on the warrior forum for a little over a year and not to bash it, it's far from "like minded" individuals. I've read so many posts where someone was bashing someone else, another person was accused to scamming another or another person posting false claims of how much money they've made.

Now, I'll always appreciate the WF for what it is. I still come back here from time to time to read relevant posts if I'm curious about a specific topic, but let's be honest. Buying WSO's here was just a big "next shiny object" circle that I got caught in until I found a proven system.

I'm aware I just went off on a tangent, but I wanted to try to be real and transparent. Anyways, I'm here to help with any questions and I'll leave this reply by saying this:

Regardless of what you think about MTTB or Matt Lloyd. Regardless of if you decide to hate it or love it.

If you think $2,000 is too much money to invest in a business, you're gonna have a really hard time making money online.
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If you think $2,000 is too much money to invest in a business, you're gonna have a really hard time making money online.
The question here is "where" to invest that money, not the amount.
They don't mention a single word about MOBE nor $2,000 in the sales letter, and that's misleading and not fair.
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I am constantly surprised by how moronic some of the people on this forum are.

Especially Mr Dennis Martin.

@Dennis - I've never met you, but, I'd be willing to bet anyone on this forum that you have never had any real success online before. Admit it - I'm right, aren't I?

I didn't get your email - if I'd seen it though, the first thing I'd do is get you off my list. Making threats that you're going to go post about me on a forum... typical signs of an amateur.

If you haven't got a refund for the 49 tell me your email now, and I'll do it myself. Frankly I'm embarrassed to have had you as a customer.

For those whining about the fact that I offer additional programs in MTTB - yes I do.

It's what we in the business refer to as an "upsell" - or an OTO. They do 2 things: offer additional value to the customer, and, allow you the marketer to increase your average customer value.

And, what they ALL have in common, is that there is an option as to whether you say "yes please" or "no thankyou."

No one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this.

Yes, I do have additional programs. I recommend you get them, because they are good. But it's completely up to you.

And complaining that I don't talk about the additional offers in the initial front end sales video is also stupid. Have you ever watched any sales video and heard them say, "hey, after you buy this, we're going to offer you 3 other programs in our OTO sequence!!" - I don't think so.

I thought this was supposed to be a marketing forum.

Some idiot was also complaining that the videos in the course are too long - imagine that... someone complaining about 'too much' content.

And Dennis - buddy, I'm actually in Panama scouting locations for a big event we are putting on next year- as I clearly wrote in my email.

I will gladly put our success statistics of members in MTTB up against any other system out there. Every day that system is making partners tens of thousands of dollars. It clearly works, and most people really love it. Those who don't... are more than welcome to refund the 49.

Thankyou for the support from some of you above - who have actually used the system.

For anyone reading this - here's the deal: you can go through MTTB yourself, and see what it's like.

Yes, some of the Steps may take you more than 30 minutes, because not every lesson in IM fits conveniently inside a 30 minute time slot.

But, you'll get a very good grounding when it comes to selling high ticket items on the internet.

If you get to the end and MTTB it's not for you... simply contact our support. Easy.
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Hey Matt,
Your answer to Dennis sounds a bit arrogant but I can understand that because you may be a bit pissed off.
Pls give us a straight answer to this question:

What happens with your $500 guarantee + $49 refund on day 30 if the $1,000 mark is not reached after the 21 steps, and MOBE hasn't been purchased. Is MOBE one of the 21?
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Roberto, I wasn't trying to be arrogant. I just don't tolerate it when uninformed people think it's ok to go trash my business on forums and abuse me. It's cowardly and amateur.

If anyone ever has any questions about my products or business and asks me in a respectful, professional way, I'll always take the time to give them an answer. Always.

So here's the deal with the guarantee; it's an implementation guarantee, that states that if a member of MTTB goes through the 21 steps in full, in under 21 days, completing all action steps - and then has not made a 1k commission within the next 30 days, then I'll pay them $500.

After someone gets to the end of the 21 steps...we have a 30 day traffic plan that the member follows, where they get an affiliate link for MTTB and we then show them how to go get traffic.

Is it easy to get the $500? So long as you can show us reasonable evidence you've completed all the action steps from the 21 steps, yes.

The big problem with a guarantee like this though... is that it can at times attract the wrong people. People who think they can sign up to MTTB... try it out for a few days...then come back to us and say "hey, I tried it, got no results, where's my $500?"

We don't allow that. As we very, very clearly state (especially in Step 1 of MTTB) if anyone wants to take us up on the guarantee - they will need to prove they completed the steps and took action.

To anyone thinking about joining MTTB with the mindset of "I'm going to get that $500" - my advice is: don't. You will have to invest time and work into making the system work - and, there are MUCH easier ways to go make $500.

If you're going to join it, go in with the attitude that you're going to implement every action step and treat this like a real business.

I've been selling high ticket programs for years now and know what I'm doing - the people who implement and use MTTB the way it's designed to be used are making high ticket commissions on a steady basis. It works, but only when you treat it like a real business.
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I paid $49, just want to see what it is, but i didn't go ahead for the $2000 upsell. I am not saying the system is not going to work, it's just that the training itself keep showing me how good the system is, and all these people there are make this amount ...etc. However, it didn't show me how good the quality their high ticket products are, why it worth such a high cost?.....Basically, it's like i was told to promote an item which was claimed profitable, but i don't know much about the feature of this item until i pay $2000 for an entry ticket first. Matt is right; no one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this; neither the $49 front sell. Everyone has an option.

So, there are only 3 types of people:
A) People who bought the $2000 upsell, hoping/believe the system work
B) People who refuse to spend $2000 upsell, don't 100% believe the system work
C) People who want to, but can't afford the $2000 upsell

There is always Type A people existing out there. They spent a fair amount of money already, of course they will try their very best to sell the product to any potential buyers to earn back the $ they paid, regardless of the quality of the product. I am not challenging the quality of the product here (as i never have a chance to try it myself), maybe it worth far more than it cost.... Just my 2 cents
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Roberto, I wasn't trying to be arrogant. I just don't tolerate it when uninformed people think it's ok to go trash my business on forums and abuse me. It's cowardly and amateur.

If anyone ever has any questions about my products or business and asks me in a respectful, professional way, I'll always take the time to give them an answer. Always.

So here's the deal with the guarantee; it's an implementation guarantee, that states that if a member of MTTB goes through the 21 steps in full, in under 21 days, completing all action steps - and then has not made a 1k commission within the next 30 days, then I'll pay them $500.

After someone gets to the end of the 21 steps...we have a 30 day traffic plan that the member follows, where they get an affiliate link for MTTB and we then show them how to go get traffic.

Is it easy to get the $500? So long as you can show us reasonable evidence you've completed all the action steps from the 21 steps, yes.

The big problem with a guarantee like this though... is that it can at times attract the wrong people. People who think they can sign up to MTTB... try it out for a few days...then come back to us and say "hey, I tried it, got no results, where's my $500?"

We don't allow that. As we very, very clearly state (especially in Step 1 of MTTB) if anyone wants to take us up on the guarantee - they will need to prove they completed the steps and took action.

To anyone thinking about joining MTTB with the mindset of "I'm going to get that $500" - my advice is: don't. You will have to invest time and work into making the system work - and, there are MUCH easier ways to go make $500.

If you're going to join it, go in with the attitude that you're going to implement every action step and treat this like a real business.

I've been selling high ticket programs for years now and know what I'm doing - the people who implement and use MTTB the way it's designed to be used are making high ticket commissions on a steady basis. It works, but only when you treat it like a real business.
Hey Matt,

Thank you for your answer, but my question still stands.

You see, I'd never ever enter into a brand new system to earn a lousy $500 guarantee.
I'm too tired, too stressed and too disappointed losing time money and effort to make a decent living with IM, so the $500 doesn't mean nothing to me. If I enter to MTTB just for the guarantee, I would feel like a thief (a stupid one though).

So here I go again:
*Is it possible to make those $1.000 within 30 days after completing the MTTB 21 steps WITHOUT purchasing MOBE initially, and buying it afterwords when your budget allows it?*

I'm sure you'll shoot an honest answer.
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Love it, his Avatar is the, "Godfather" - is he trying to tell us something.

From his copy: "And while John Chow and Jonathan Budd did have some prior online experience" Like saying the sea is a bit salt.

John Chow see: milliondollarjourney.c*m/john-chow-internet-mogul.htm
Jonathan Budd: CEO/President at Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc

Read into this what you will.

I've been around this forum for a long time; never seen an outright $2000.00 payment called an OTO and why would someone require payment for selling their products.

CtrlAltRage: $2049.00 to make $1100.00 over a three month period - You'd do a lot better with Amazon, without the expense.

RobertoM: Think you'll ever get a straight answer?

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Tell me does clickbank/ebay/amazon or many others charge you any monies to become affiliate? Off course no. So why the heck are these guys charging $2k for what effectively is to become affiliate of their products.
It's typical pyramid scheme behavior, "pay us money for the rights to sell our products." Oldest line in the book.
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Mattie, your avatar is showing "Nothing" - think you're telling us something?

John Chow and Budd obviously have big brands they've built up from hard work. That's why Chow has made over $200,000 partnering with Matt.

But I guess you choose to see what you want to see, since there are hundreds of average people you've never heard (lot's of testimonials actually are shown on the sales page and VSL) of making a nice income with MTTB. Some "newcomers" even in their first week.

And those that don't succeed right away get loads of support in a very active group for all members.

And yes, I am biased because my first week I partnered with Matt, I personally received four $1,000 commissions and several other sales. Why? Because I took action. And no, I was not a newbie but that's not the issue here.

If this looks bad to you, then move on... You're personally responsible for anything you do and anything you get.

The question is whether you're going to whine and "LOOK" for a reason why it won't work, or if you're willing to roll your sleeves up and DO something.

Legit questions are appreciated. Whining and supporting others who want to whine with you will keep your progress at ZERO.

The rest of your comments show you make no sense and know nothing of what you're talking about...

Requiring payment for selling and "owning" products is something called Licensing. Maybe you've heard of the term Franchise before. And show me another program that can give you $1,000-$5,000+ commissions. And a big problem with affiliate marketing and def. a lot of what you see here, is the affiliates usually DON'T own the product and have never went through it, they promote blindly preaching it's awesomeness, then a lot of people end up getting crap products...

Not sure where in the world you got "make 1,100.00 over a 3 month period" from. Think much bigger than that. My best advice for you is to stick with Amazon since that's where you think you'll succeed better.

I wouldn't come here in the first place, but it seems like a lot of you like to knock what you haven't tried. And you're knocking a friend. A friend that has a system that is helping a lot people that are willing to help themselves, and it solves a lot of problems of them trying to do it all by themselves.

(Don't want to license someone's entire business out and don't see the huge value and leverage that gives you, then spend 2-3 years and create it yourself.)

It's also a system that I personally have had a lot of success with and plan to have a LOT more.

I've wasted enough time here already, but hopefully this will help a few people honestly looking for a real business and are willing to act fast and work the system. If you're thinking about joining ANY system, you don't come here to ask about it.

Why don't you contact people on the testimonials page that have actually went through and had success with it? Ask them questions, ask them if they'd be willing to help. Ask them for pro's and con's etc... Tell them your fears and frustrations, concerns...

"You are who you hang around with." -something to think about...


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Love it, his Avatar is the, "Godfather" - is he trying to tell us something.

From his copy: "And while John Chow and Jonathan Budd did have some prior online experience" Like saying the sea is a bit salt.

John Chow see: milliondollarjourney.c*m/john-chow-internet-mogul.htm
Jonathan Budd: CEO/President at Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc

Read into this what you will.

I've been around this forum for a long time; never seen an outright $2000.00 payment called an OTO and why would someone require payment for selling their products.

CtrlAltRage: $2049.00 to make $1100.00 over a three month period - You'd do a lot better with Amazon, without the expense.

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I would be interest to know, how come the money back guarantee is $500, not $2046 (1997+49)?
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I would be interest to know, how come the money back guarantee is $500, not $2046 (1997+49)?
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For those whining about the fact that I offer additional programs in MTTB - yes I do.

It's what we in the business refer to as an "upsell" - or an OTO. They do 2 things: offer additional value to the customer, and, allow you the marketer to increase your average customer value.

And, what they ALL have in common, is that there is an option as to whether you say "yes please" or "no thankyou."
Yes, upsells are VERY normal in this business. But when you say that it's completely FREE and after couple of steps people realize that they'll have to spend additional 2k, it seems like you are lying in the newsletter.

When building a business I think it's easier to build solid relationship with customers by being honest and telling what they can expect in the future. But you are trying to get money simply by lying. Of course that will work, cause there always are people who are going to buy. But I guess majority of the people will feel scammed and mislead. And even though you already are millionaire and guru but I can't imagine how you expect to grow your business in you continue misleading people.

The idea of MTTB seemed great. Just allow as many people as possible to advertise your program and they will make money for you. And the best thing that affiliates still have to pay for the program when they make certain amount of commissions. Everything made sense until people started to complain about being scammed...
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What about the affiliate program? Is it still good to be an affiliate only, not as a licensee?
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Below is an e-mail I sent just this morning. I believed in the advertisement and he has a really good sales pitch. I was even willing to spend the money but to be tricked is not ethical. I believe his program will work but it will cost you an extra $2,000 to get through the 21 steps. If that would have be told upfront, the result, wasted time and meeting with his crone's would have been different.
Hello Solomon, I really feel cheated by Matt Lloyd and the group. To tell someone that you are going to help them, get them sucked into the sales funnel and then tell them that they have to spend $2,000 dollar half way through the steps is wrong. I have the money to spend and it should be my choice to spend it. I shouldn't feel tricked into it. I think I will not just send you this e-mail but I'm going to post it in warrior forum as well. Thank you but no thank you!
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Yeah, exactly. I believe that this system does it job well and I also would be willing to spend money on it. However, when Matt says that "I'll fix the Internet", "I'll give it for free", "you won't have to pay before you make money" etc etc and then you have to buy something for $2,000, I also feel tricked into buying. And people don't really like to feel that way.
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He should be honest and tell the truth about the $2000
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It`s totally dishonest highway robbery
Ned Kelly would be proud to take your money.Looks like Matt aswell
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You are right Mattie,
I received an email from his Support Dept. saying that he will no longer answer questions.
Nice attitude, uh?
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You are right Mattie,
I received an email from his Support Dept. saying that he will no longer answer questions.
Nice attitude, uh?
My support said that? Please PM me that exact message they sent you... I think you may be confusing an email autoreponse with a real person from support. But I would really like to see that response and who on my staff supposedly said that - please send it to me.

I'll respond to you now. I'm not able to always respond to Warrior Forum threads within 24 hours, because I actually run a business 99% of my time.

But here are all your responses... if I miss anyone, let me know.

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I would be interest to know, how come the money back guarantee is $500, not $2046 (1997+49)?
There actually is a 1 year refund period with that 1997 program, which is outlined on the sales letter for that program. And the 49 is fully refundable as well.

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Hey Matt,

Thank you for your answer, but my question still stands.

You see, I'd never ever enter into a brand new system to earn a lousy $500 guarantee.
I'm too tired, too stressed and too disappointed losing time money and effort to make a decent living with IM, so the $500 doesn't mean nothing to me. If I enter to MTTB just for the guarantee, I would feel like a thief (a stupid one though).

So here I go again:
*Is it possible to make those $1.000 within 30 days after completing the MTTB 21 steps WITHOUT purchasing MOBE initially, and buying it afterwords when your budget allows it?*

I'm sure you'll shoot an honest answer.
Yes it is.

Here's the deal: I have over 37 different products... that teach IM topics like email marketing, to affiliate marketing, outsourcing, phone sales, product creation, etc...

When you go through MTTB, you automatically become a MOBE affiliate. That means you can promote the majority of our MOBE products.

Granted, you get smaller commissions than what the MOBE Licensee's get... but, compared to any other affiliate program out there, you're still paid well.

MTTB is one of the funnels you can promote - there's over a dozen others you can choose from.

So can you make $1000 in commissions without becoming a MOBE Licensee? Yes.

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Love it, his Avatar is the, "Godfather" - is he trying to tell us something.
Yes. I'm trying to tell you that 'The Godfather' is one of my favorite movies, and that when I set up my account on this forum several years back, I didn't have a personal photo on my computer.

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From his copy: "And while John Chow and Jonathan Budd did have some prior online experience" Like saying the sea is a bit salt.

John Chow see: milliondollarjourney.c*m/john-chow-internet-mogul.htm
Jonathan Budd: CEO/President at Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc
What is your point?

I never claimed that John Chow and Jonathan were regular newbie affiliates... I show their results because they show what the system is capable of producing.

That's the point of testimonials: they present your product in the best light.

Most people are intelligent enough to work out that those results are not typical.

It's like when you watch a weight loss infomercial... you don't assume you're going to look like all the models do.

If I'd said, "hey, you'll make as much money as John and Jonathan Budd" then that would have been misleading. I never said that though.

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I've been around this forum for a long time; never seen an outright $2000.00 payment called an OTO and why would someone require payment for selling their products.
You've never seen someone license their products before? Really???

I think that's half the problem. You've been 'around this forum' for a little too long... lurking and posting.

How about you show me what you actually have accomplished in this industry? I'd like to see some of your products... some of your funnels.

If I am the first to do it, then great. That's called being a pioneer.

At some point in time, the concept of the drive through restaurant was new as well.

Imagine if someone had said... "Pffft... I've been around the restaurant business for years now... I've never seen anyone offer drive through meals, how flaming ridiculous is that!!"

I'm sure someone did say that in fact. Meanwhile, the person who came up with the idea got rich.

I can name for you at least 5 other multi-million dollar producers in this industry who I know personally, who started licensing their products after they saw me do it - so I can assure you, it's not a new idea. You're just a little behind perhaps.

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CtrlAltRage: $2049.00 to make $1100.00 over a three month period - You'd do a lot better with Amazon, without the expense.
I'm not really sure of your logic there buddy... no one says you have to limit your commissions to $1100.

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RobertoM: Think you'll ever get a straight answer?
I'm being pretty straight with you right now.

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It's typical pyramid scheme behavior, "pay us money for the rights to sell our products." Oldest line in the book.
Define pyramid scheme please Curtis.

By your comment... all McDonalds franchises are pyramid schemes.

I'm pretty sure that when you invest in a McDonalds Franchise, that is a huge part of what you're buying: the rights to sell their products.

I'm sorry for making you look stupid... but, that was just way too easy!

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Yes, upsells are VERY normal in this business. But when you say that it's completely FREE and after couple of steps people realize that they'll have to spend additional 2k, it seems like you are lying in the newsletter.
The system is actually free. The $49 has nothing to do with the system. It really IS an application fee.

Why? Because I pay my phone coaches a lot of money to spend time coaching people through the steps.

If I did not have some kind of screening process in place, I'd get morons like Roberto going through the system, and that would waste a lot of our time.

If you think the $49 is a way of me lining my own pockets, know this: we pay out 90% of that to our License affiliates, and, 5% of that to the Level 2 partent affiliate.

I'm left with about $2.50... which barely covers merchant fees.

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But you are trying to get money simply by lying. Of course that will work, cause there always are people who are going to buy. But I guess majority of the people will feel scammed and mislead. And even though you already are millionaire and guru but I can't imagine how you expect to grow your business in you continue misleading people.
No. It's actually you who is misleading people. See, you don't have the full facts. You don't know me. You don't know my intentions. And you don't fully understand the system.

Yet, you're posting here on a public forum as if you do.

If you'd like to be more informed, then you can ask me whatever questions you have and I'll answer. But please don't say I'm "misleading people" when I'm not.

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What about the affiliate program? Is it still good to be an affiliate only, not as a licensee?
Sure. We have about 9,000 affiliates... of course, like with any affiliate program most don't make a lot of money -I suspect it's because they spend too much time on forums : )

But, you can definitely sign up as an affiliate, and make 50% commissions on the majority of my front end products.

Some people go that route: they become affiliates, and once they make a few commissions, they upgrade to becoming Licensees to make bigger commissions, get additional product access and training, etc.

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I believe his program will work but it will cost you an extra $2,000 to get through the 21 steps. If that would have be told upfront, the result, wasted time and meeting with his crone's would have been different.
Hello Solomon, I really feel cheated by Matt Lloyd and the group. To tell someone that you are going to help them, get them sucked into the sales funnel and then tell them that they have to spend $2,000 dollar half way through the steps is wrong. I have the money to spend and it should be my choice to spend it.
Again... facts are being twisted. It actually won't cost you 2k to go through the 21 steps, if you don't want it to. You are perfectly welcome not to become a MOBE Licensee, and stay on as a regular affiliate. Personally, I would not recommend that route: though it's up to you.

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He should be honest and tell the truth about the $2000
Tell the truth? The truth is, you can choose whether you want to become a MOBE Licensee or not. It's always been that way. I don't know how else I can say it.

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It`s totally dishonest highway robbery
Ned Kelly would be proud to take your money.Looks like Matt aswell
Classy.

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Why don't you contact people on the testimonials page that have actually went through and had success with it? Ask them questions, ask them if they'd be willing to help. Ask them for pro's and con's etc... Tell them your fears and frustrations, concerns...
Exactly. Most of those complaining here, are uninformed. Most don't want to be informed.

Personally, if I'm ever going to go and publicy bash someone or their business (which I don't really ever do, because it's not my style) - I'd at least make it a point to get all the FACTS.

It's easy to jump on the bandwagon and start throwing rocks- it requires less thinking that way, and for those doing it... is how they get their kicks.

But for anyone reading this - who is thinking about MTTB - at least do your due diligence, and ask people from both sides of the table what their experience is. Or come and ask me directly.

So let me finish this thread with one final note:

I'm an open book. I'll answer any question you have for me- and if you ask me in a polite and classy manner... I'll always respond likewise.

If you want to start name calling and trashing me... then I will gleefully give some back.

I must admit, I enjoy making fun of guys like Roberto.

But... I'm also very busy running my business.

The problem with having a discussion on a forum like this, is that people remain fairly anonymous and therefore the conversation disintegrates into people posting and taking little responsibility for the factual accuracy of what they write.

Instead of it being informative... the conversation becomes a public trashing forum.

So - to anyone who is serious about getting straight answers, I'm going to give you all my Facebook account - this is me:

http://facebook.com/mattlloydonline

This way... you can see me, and I can see you. If you have real questions for me, then send me a direct message.

Don't expect answers in 24 hours - my schedule does not allow that. But, I will get back to you.

No doubt, the space below will soon fill up with some more lurkers chiming in and posting their opinions without bothering to get the facts first.

If that is how people want to spend their time, so be it - I'm going to get back to running my business.

Message me directly if you need.

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With a guy like Matt Lloyd and his kind of answers, it's worthless to continue posting in this thread.
I'm out.
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Hi There,

I am a Platinum member and can guarantee that it works. All you need to do is drive traffic to the already done sales pages and the phone team does the rest.

Its that easy.

Any traffic will do - either solo ads or social.

It is all working.

Let me know if you have any other questions.
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I also payed the 49 dollars and went until they mention the 1997 dollar for partnering up. Find it super annoying when it is advertised as FREE until you make money with it, and than you need to pay up.

So after seeing you pay 1997 dollars, the never before seen 500 dollar money back guarantee, which is basically a 25% money back guarantee is not such a good deal after all with every other info product on the net has 100% money back.

I dont like it that it is not clear.

But well, done cause it is built up really well to suck you in. First free, than 49 dollars, than a lot of testimonials with a lot of money, long videos, long copy covering every aspect of how good franchises are (so when u r introduced to the 2k franchise u dont bail), how Matt did not blame the guy to whom he payed once some 36k for some similar franchise and did not make money, but himself (so u will do the same) and how high end products r the best ever.

Plus my impression is that most of the income comes from signing up new members, and selling MOBE products on the side is only a minor part of the income, which makes it look like a scheme...

Dont like it. But as I said I did not pay the 2k, did not go any further....
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Only one do earn money from it for sure....Whether you earn money or not depends on traffic driven by you....You would pay 2k and would also have to drive traffic to product to get commission !!!
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Hey Matt, The question is not about the $500 but the $1997 right after Step 6. You lead me to believe I was getting th isd system for free. You got me excited then told me to fuk off cause I could not afford the $1997. In the sales letter you promised me 21 steps for FREE but I can't go past step 6 because of the license fee that we didn't know about. Since I wanted to go on but was forced to stop then you should pay the $500 that you didn't give me a chance to try for. You're a piece of %$&# scammer. Thats what I think of you.

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You say the system is free and the $49 is an application fee. Fine but your system is not free. If it is then why was I forced to stop after Step 6. Marlon said I had to purchase the license in order to go any further. So stop lying and scamming about the fact you made a mistake and are refusing to pay for it. The system is free if you pay $1997 for the license but without the license you don't get the system. Christ, you don"t even know your own system. earlier you say we don't have to have the license but we just make less money. Bull.....
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Hey Clint, get that Marlon guy to read this thread, and quote Matt's word at post #37 "..........It actually won't cost you 2k to go through the 21 steps, if you don't want it to. You are perfectly welcome not to become a MOBE Licensee, and stay on as a regular affiliate....." See how he respond

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You say the system is free and the $49 is an application fee. Fine but your system is not free. If it is then why was I forced to stop after Step 6. Marlon said I had to purchase the license in order to go any further. So stop lying and scamming about the fact you made a mistake and are refusing to pay for it. The system is free if you pay $1997 for the license but without the license you don't get the system. Christ, you don"t even know your own system. earlier you say we don't have to have the license but we just make less money. Bull.....
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Why spend time on following 21 steps???

I have only 3 steps system to make you millions. If you don't earn in one day, I will pay you $500,000. You have to follow three steps though, ready?

Step 1: Apply for only $1 to join my program
Step 2: Pay me $900,000 for license to sell my products
Step 3: Make millions or if you can't make it, I will pay you $500,000

Wow...that's an easy $400,000 income plus $1 to scam you..hehe
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LMAO...this is funny....well MATT is the real deal....JUST like any program, you buy the reseller rights to his high tickets and you drive traffic (which he teaches you how to do)....its all about you taking action.....Folks, not everyone is out there to take your money. .......O and I am not his affiliate or part of his program...
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I got email today regarding matt lloyd's my top tier business. Anyone joined this and any feedback? It says its free but costs just 49 to join to keep tire tickers out and if selected, we pay nothing for this and there is a guarantee of 500 dollars if we dont make 1000 bucks in 30 days and follow a 21 step system. he says it costs 5000 as training and we get it free and need not pay it until we make 50,000? Any reviews guys, planning to join this.
The only problem I see here is the Mobe License part. I'm on a very low fixed income so the $1997 is not possible for someone like me. I know a lot of retired people are always looking for something to do and IM could be very good for them but I am positive there are some that cannot afford to spend a lot.
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I got the same email and actually watched the video twice. Being a newbie the whole video was very attracted to me. The video clearly states that he would not ask for payment until we start making $50,000. @Macmani I am glad you posted that they wanted to charge you $1997 for a MOBE License by the end of the 1st week! Thatís definitely a red flag for me! I have been scammed so much that is the reason why I joined Warrior Forum to see what others think before I shell out another $17 or $49.
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Howdy Matt, could you please contrast and compare the income potential for the person who cannot afford to pay the $2,000 licensing fee...to the one that actually does pay?
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Default Re: my top tier business, matt lloyd

I came here to check out MTTP due to an email. I have to say lots of info. I am disappointed to see that apparently a few kids hang out here too. Everyone has a right to an opinion but putting someone down is just plain childish. So you don't like the way the guy runs his program. Trash the email and move on. And if you read this Matt, your comments toward Roberto were childish, grow up. Glad I checked here because I don't have 2,000 to invest in a business. You need to get rid of the word free unless you are getting rid of license fees & application fees. FREE & FEES are not the same word. That said the email is going in the recycle bin & I wish all of you the best of luck in your business endeavors.
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