my top tier business, matt lloyd

by macmani 279 replies
I got email today regarding matt lloyd's my top tier business. Anyone joined this and any feedback? It says its free but costs just 49 to join to keep tire tickers out and if selected, we pay nothing for this and there is a guarantee of 500 dollars if we dont make 1000 bucks in 30 days and follow a 21 step system. he says it costs 5000 as training and we get it free and need not pay it until we make 50,000? Any reviews guys, planning to join this.
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  • Profile picture of the author salamandar
    Hi, macmani,

    I joined 9 days ago, probably from the same mailing you received, and paid the $49. The trickled training that I took was pretty good and the future looked promising.

    Then, surprise!!!!! At around the end of the first week I was informed I had to buy a MOBE license for $1997 in order to continue.

    Somebody forgot to mention it in the advertising...

    I actually signed a non-disclosure agreement while I was digesting this new information. But I don't want eat into my monetary resources to the tune of $2K before I'm assured the products will sell.

    Those products seem to be good quality.

    It remains to be proven to me how many affiliates of the system can make a decent living, let alone driving around in their own Mercedes.

    But for now, I'm on the sidelines.

    Maurice
    • Profile picture of the author CtrlAltRage
      Heya Mac,

      I've recently become a Licensee of Matt Lloyd's and I can say that it DOES take some work to get it running.

      Coaching wise it's pretty solid but it is definitely focused around the MOBE series of products.

      If you have any questions regarding it, let me know I can answer any questions. Just shoot me a PM.
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    • Profile picture of the author Boyka
      Originally Posted by salamandar View Post

      Hi, macmani,

      I joined 9 days ago, probably from the same mailing you received, and paid the $49. The trickled training that I took was pretty good and the future looked promising.

      Then, surprise!!!!! At around the end of the first week I was informed I had to buy a MOBE license for $1997 in order to continue.

      Somebody forgot to mention it in the advertising...

      I actually signed a non-disclosure agreement while I was digesting this new information. But I don't want eat into my monetary resources to the tune of $2K before I'm assured the products will sell.

      Those products seem to be good quality.

      It remains to be proven to me how many affiliates of the system can make a decent living, let alone driving around in their own Mercedes.

      But for now, I'm on the sidelines.

      Maurice
      Well well well...if you have to pay 49$ and a MOBE licence almost 2k$ and then you earn only 1k$ within 30 days, then you still have a debt of almost 1k$...Is it profitable ?

      I don`t try to act like an A** but Matt Lloyd should mention from start that you need to invest atleast 2k$ in his business to start getting high commisions.
    • Profile picture of the author crashenburner
      I had serious concerns about getting into another mlm or online marketing venture.
      Frankly it became apparent to me that most of them were dysfunctional for the inexperienced.
      Also, I was willing to except my failings as my own and not pass them on.
      So what happens? Another shiny object pops up and I am hooked...
      I had to have more info and I needed it from the horse's mouth.
      I went to a super charge summit where I would meet the owner and other big earners as well as those just getting started.
      So here is my report.
      These people were some of the most genuine down to earth folks I have ever seen gathered in one location. Three days I spent picking their minds and feeling their pocket books.
      In the last 10 days I have not found anything illegal or shameful about MTTB / MOBE.
      Exactly the opposite.
      This is a business for people that understand it takes money to make money and that the right mind set to make the kind of money these folks are making requires firm discipline.
      90% of the people going through their funnel do not....the good news is that the "know how" to create the mindset for the desire is built into the training, coaching and events.
      I had to go through a little bit of hell to change my old way of thinking.
      Scam? No. Scam is the cop out phrase for those who live their lives based on fear.
      Sorry, but the truth will sting before it purifies. Can you get passed the pain is the question?
    • Profile picture of the author Michael75065
      almost joined this scam all seems to be on the intrernet or mlm business sad.
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    • Profile picture of the author SuperAffiliate
      Full disclosure: I haven't joined this yet.. I don't know anyone in this thread.. and I am not earning a commission..

      But let me get this straight. I'm trying to dissect the actual program without the weird back n forth name calling. That's not what Warriors are about.. we help and help and help some more.

      1. $49 = You get a 21 step training plus a coach who walks you through the training 3 times. Obviously - the coach makes very little on the $49 application fee - and 3 times on the phone is a lot of time!!! So this is similar to moving the free line.. where you get a taste of the coaching.. for free plus the $49 twenty-one step training..

      2. Then = they present an offer to you around the end of the first week. You can choose to take the offer or decline it.. This is how the coach gets paid? Is that right? So finally - he says .. we can go further but I'm dropping you off if you don't take the upsell?

      That's pretty fair.. you can't have someone on the phone all the time for free.. Seems rather fair so far..

      Then, they have higher priced masterminds where you meet at a physical location where everything is paid for..

      3. That's easy to understand, and doesn't contradict the $49 offer at all. THEN - you still go through the 21 step training..

      THE PARTS THAT I'M MISSING IS:

      1)))) Is the training good solid information?
      2)))) Is it good step by step info that even beginners can do.

      I think beginners could do something like this and even pay a "tuition" for the training... if after a year - they are solid internet marketers. I've been through 4 years of college - and received less for a LOT LOT more!

      What would happen if colleges offered you half commissions for tuition! Most of the time - you come out of those classes with just a 3 hour credit on your transcript... and no actual coach or knowledge that you can apply.

      IF the training can be applied training - then it's worth paying the money to shortcut all the BS out there.

      IF the training is there as a veil for earning commissions - then we have a problem.

      Thanks!




      Originally Posted by salamandar View Post

      Hi, macmani,

      I joined 9 days ago, probably from the same mailing you received, and paid the $49. The trickled training that I took was pretty good and the future looked promising.

      Then, surprise!!!!! At around the end of the first week I was informed I had to buy a MOBE license for $1997 in order to continue.

      Somebody forgot to mention it in the advertising...

      I actually signed a non-disclosure agreement while I was digesting this new information. But I don't want eat into my monetary resources to the tune of $2K before I'm assured the products will sell.

      Those products seem to be good quality.

      It remains to be proven to me how many affiliates of the system can make a decent living, let alone driving around in their own Mercedes.

      But for now, I'm on the sidelines.

      Maurice
    • Profile picture of the author michaelsalemi
      Originally Posted by salamandar View Post

      Hi, macmani,

      I joined 9 days ago, probably from the same mailing you received, and paid the $49. The trickled training that I took was pretty good and the future looked promising.

      Then, surprise!!!!! At around the end of the first week I was informed I had to buy a MOBE license for $1997 in order to continue.

      Somebody forgot to mention it in the advertising...

      I actually signed a non-disclosure agreement while I was digesting this new information. But I don't want eat into my monetary resources to the tune of $2K before I'm assured the products will sell.

      Those products seem to be good quality.

      It remains to be proven to me how many affiliates of the system can make a decent living, let alone driving around in their own Mercedes.

      But for now, I'm on the sidelines.

      Maurice
      They Probably give you some good info but most mlm you make money buy selling there products. They usually give you more info. the more money you spend. It does work but not everyone will buy, Just to let you know. I have been listening to a Vick Strizheus who has really Mastered Traffic n Optins around 38% - 50% - 75% optins. Very High Optin Rates.
      You can use what he teaches for any business. He does use empower network but it works for any business if you don't want to sell Multilever Marketing. You know if you were going to rent a store front it would cost thousands. So spending some money so you don't have to keep on searching and you may not even know where to start. Vic made $710,000 in less then 30days. You know what he charges around $997 plus maybe one upsell. It is all refundable if you don't like it. You have to apply what you've learned. I know its hard to trust people. If you want look up Vick Strizheus n see what he's doing on youtube. It won't cost you a dime check it out.
      God Bless n Good Luck
      Michal
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    • Profile picture of the author jamjar107
      I have recently joined MOBE from Matt LLoyd. The training is top draw and of good quality.
      It seems to be a good way of creating good commisions and they have a trained sales team. Response from email campaign is around 2% so not too bad a take up. Will keep you posted.
  • Profile picture of the author Cassano 10
    What is the MOBE licence?
    • Profile picture of the author gilksy
      The MOBE Licence gives you the licence rights to sell the core MOBE products for 90% commission (ranging from $87 to $267) and re-sell the MOBE licence itself for 50% commission ($1K).

      Considering the time and skills it takes to create your own products, it's a pretty good deal.

      PM me if you want more info and I'll send you a link to a video.

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      What is the MOBE licence?
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  • Profile picture of the author getrichinfo
    I knew it! there is definitely a catch somewhere!
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    • Profile picture of the author cajun
      Originally Posted by getrichinfo View Post

      I knew it! there is definitely a catch somewhere!
      When it sounds too good to be true....
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    • Profile picture of the author TheMaleRN
      Originally Posted by agoodsaid View Post

      Hi guys -

      Total transparency here - I've been selling Matt's stuff for about 18mos. And I've made $ (feel free to PM for a screenshot - though I would ask for your discretion) ... it's not a fortune, but it's nothing to sneeze at either.

      I don't drive cold traffic so don't ask me for conversion numbers or anything. I have a small responsive list that I treat very well and they in turn buy the stuff I recommend.

      Am liking this MTTB funnel very well, not too clear on the sales page wording, it's being tweaked to be as clear, yet irresistible as possible (a gotcha feeling does no one any good) but the content up to the point that Maurice mentions is worth the $49 and then some imho - especially to folks who aren't clear about why large commissions are so much more powerful than small ones or who have yet to fully 'get' what's possible with the economics side of high ticket IM.

      They're literally like night and day vs. one off affiliate commissions.

      Changed our family's reality (MOBE and 2 others).

      Matt's a solid and thorough teacher, my folks come out the other side with what they need to take further action, he creates upsell offers that convert and he pays on time.

      That's a winning combo in my book.

      Hope that helps,
      Andrea

      Thanks for being honest. How are things with MOBE sales at this point though?
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      Originally Posted by agoodsaid View Post

      Hi guys -

      Total transparency here - I've been selling Matt's stuff for about 18mos. And I've made $ (feel free to PM for a screenshot - though I would ask for your discretion) ... it's not a fortune, but it's nothing to sneeze at either.

      I don't drive cold traffic so don't ask me for conversion numbers or anything. I have a small responsive list that I treat very well and they in turn buy the stuff I recommend.

      Am liking this MTTB funnel very well, not too clear on the sales page wording, it's being tweaked to be as clear, yet irresistible as possible (a gotcha feeling does no one any good) but the content up to the point that Maurice mentions is worth the $49 and then some imho - especially to folks who aren't clear about why large commissions are so much more powerful than small ones or who have yet to fully 'get' what's possible with the economics side of high ticket IM.

      They're literally like night and day vs. one off affiliate commissions.

      Changed our family's reality (MOBE and 2 others).

      Matt's a solid and thorough teacher, my folks come out the other side with what they need to take further action, he creates upsell offers that convert and he pays on time.

      That's a winning combo in my book.

      Hope that helps,
      Andrea
      Did you say total transparency here? Um, that's hilarious.
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  • Profile picture of the author SarahEmpower
    I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
    and never ask you for a single dime for it
    until AFTER you make money with it.
    - That was part of the sales letter...

    1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
    2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
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    • Profile picture of the author smak
      Guys don't bother with this MTTB program.

      You will be required to pay $2k just to become affiliate of their products. And that too without really having clue as to the salesletters of products u will be asked to promote or any other material that can aid marketing.

      Tell me does clickbank/ebay/amazon or many others charge you any monies to become affiliate? Off course no. So why the heck are these guys charging $2k for what effectively is to become affiliate of their products.

      Also on their salesletter they say things like each of the 21 step will take you 30 minutes to complete. But I covered 3 steps and they all seem to have recordings of seminar presentations lasting 1 hour & more.

      Just hate these kind of things. So fed up of such tactics.
    • Profile picture of the author cajun
      Originally Posted by SarahEmpower View Post

      I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
      and never ask you for a single dime for it
      until AFTER you make money with it.
      - That was part of the sales letter...

      1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
      2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
      So halfway thru the 21 steps I need to buy a $2000 license? If I don't, means I didn't complete a step, so forfeit $500 guarantee, plus $49 already paid?
      Please clarify...
      What did you do, Maurice?
      tx
    • Profile picture of the author webmind
      Originally Posted by SarahEmpower View Post

      I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
      and never ask you for a single dime for it
      until AFTER you make money with it.
      - That was part of the sales letter...

      1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
      2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
      Why would anyone trust a guy who straight out lies in his sales letter? Free? Or $2000? What's the difference among friends!
    • Profile picture of the author rrram2
      I read the terms and conditions and its clear that they are a bit shady by saying some of the things they say, saying someone needs to complete 21 steps in order in one day on an exact day they specify is insane, because they state that each step takes 30 minutes? WTF who has 10.5 hours in one day to put towards this, and obviously the $1000 commission is possible after you sign up and pay more than $1000, generating a $1000 commission for someone else, then you sell one too and make $1000....really? Anyone making any real money with this? ANyone got a refund of their $49? and how many people are there out there that bought this thing and now have sever buyers remorse and feel bad because they wasted $$$$ and didnt get anything in return?

      Sorry folks, but the sales video just isnt very credible to me.

      his marketing list is funny, he is emailing me as a result of me being added to his bitbillions list. I joined bitbillions under him, and actually bitbillions was a joke, watch endless videos and crapola for pennies a day, real $ there, BAH.

      Laws and rules governing it are Australia, which means good luck suing me in AUstralia for signing up and sharing the "scamy" stuff about this whole deal.

      It could work, but it screams scam, the world could end today but its not likely, just like making any real $ with this thing without a heap of conflict issues and a bunch of buyers who feel ripped off.

      Good luck with this one!

      Originally Posted by SarahEmpower View Post

      I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
      and never ask you for a single dime for it
      until AFTER you make money with it.
      - That was part of the sales letter...

      1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
      2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
  • Profile picture of the author Forex To Success
    I just signed up yesterday. Now i read this post and start smelling fishy.
    I will see how i goes and keep everyone update
  • Profile picture of the author higherluv
    (From anyone who’s tried this…) if we get on board how do they expect us to promote their products?
  • Profile picture of the author mattlloyd
    I am constantly surprised by how moronic some of the people on this forum are.

    Especially Mr Dennis Martin.

    @Dennis - I've never met you, but, I'd be willing to bet anyone on this forum that you have never had any real success online before. Admit it - I'm right, aren't I?

    I didn't get your email - if I'd seen it though, the first thing I'd do is get you off my list. Making threats that you're going to go post about me on a forum... typical signs of an amateur.

    If you haven't got a refund for the 49 tell me your email now, and I'll do it myself. Frankly I'm embarrassed to have had you as a customer.

    For those whining about the fact that I offer additional programs in MTTB - yes I do.

    It's what we in the business refer to as an "upsell" - or an OTO. They do 2 things: offer additional value to the customer, and, allow you the marketer to increase your average customer value.

    And, what they ALL have in common, is that there is an option as to whether you say "yes please" or "no thankyou."

    No one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this.

    Yes, I do have additional programs. I recommend you get them, because they are good. But it's completely up to you.

    And complaining that I don't talk about the additional offers in the initial front end sales video is also stupid. Have you ever watched any sales video and heard them say, "hey, after you buy this, we're going to offer you 3 other programs in our OTO sequence!!" - I don't think so.

    I thought this was supposed to be a marketing forum.

    Some idiot was also complaining that the videos in the course are too long - imagine that... someone complaining about 'too much' content.

    And Dennis - buddy, I'm actually in Panama scouting locations for a big event we are putting on next year- as I clearly wrote in my email.

    I will gladly put our success statistics of members in MTTB up against any other system out there. Every day that system is making partners tens of thousands of dollars. It clearly works, and most people really love it. Those who don't... are more than welcome to refund the 49.

    Thankyou for the support from some of you above - who have actually used the system.

    For anyone reading this - here's the deal: you can go through MTTB yourself, and see what it's like.

    Yes, some of the Steps may take you more than 30 minutes, because not every lesson in IM fits conveniently inside a 30 minute time slot.

    But, you'll get a very good grounding when it comes to selling high ticket items on the internet.

    If you get to the end and MTTB it's not for you... simply contact our support. Easy.
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    • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
      Hey Matt,
      Your answer to Dennis sounds a bit arrogant but I can understand that because you may be a bit pissed off.
      Pls give us a straight answer to this question:

      What happens with your $500 guarantee + $49 refund on day 30 if the $1,000 mark is not reached after the 21 steps, and MOBE hasn't been purchased. Is MOBE one of the 21?
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    • Profile picture of the author Michelle Green
      Originally Posted by mattlloyd View Post

      I am constantly surprised by how moronic some of the people on this forum are...
      Matt, I admire your passion. But I think you may have done more harm to your reputation than good by responding in the defensive manner that you have. Customers complain about products all the time, but until one experiences it for themselves it's all hear say. It's nothing a little reputation management won't resolve. However, when you lash out in public like that all of a sudden it's no longer hear say. People will assume it must be true because of the way you've reacted. I've seen your presentation, you are a great marketer, but part of being a great business man is knowing how to react to and resolve customer dissatisfaction effectively. It's also humbling yourself to receive constructive criticism. When people see FREE that's exactly what they expect. You might want to use more caution when throwing that word around prior to hitting people with a $49 entry and then a $2000 upsell. Good luck, I wish you the best sir.
    • Profile picture of the author hlnsvr9
      I just signed up to MyTopTierBusiness. But I want a refund. So far none of the instructions were doable (explained below). Thus I visited the web and warrior forum to check its validity, which I usually do before buying into something. Wished I had the sense to do that this time. The surprise charge that's awaiting me is not cool! I want a refund. I'm doing fine in Network Marketing. It's not a respectful place where the rug is pulled out from under one's feet.

      None of the instructions worked:
      I watched the welcome video but could not book my first call because the bar above which had the links disappeared at once when the video and the texts finally loaded. But I could access the support link thus I wrote to them explaining my problem. Awaiting a reply.

      Trying to reload the page or hitting the back button brought me to a login page asking for my password. But I was never given the opportunity during sign up to create a password! Thus anything I typed returned an error message. Cannot login...No Access to back office!

      I also did not receive the e-mail that was promised that should have the info for me to move forward. They're not in my junk mailbox either. Have written to Linda, but no response yet.

      This does not look good, Matt Lloyd. Hope you'd kindly refund just as you promised for principle's sake.
    • Profile picture of the author Jperez1129
      Originally Posted by mattlloyd View Post

      I am constantly surprised by how moronic some of the people on this forum are.

      Especially Mr Dennis Martin.

      @Dennis - I've never met you, but, I'd be willing to bet anyone on this forum that you have never had any real success online before. Admit it - I'm right, aren't I?

      I didn't get your email - if I'd seen it though, the first thing I'd do is get you off my list. Making threats that you're going to go post about me on a forum... typical signs of an amateur.

      If you haven't got a refund for the 49 tell me your email now, and I'll do it myself. Frankly I'm embarrassed to have had you as a customer.

      For those whining about the fact that I offer additional programs in MTTB - yes I do.

      It's what we in the business refer to as an "upsell" - or an OTO. They do 2 things: offer additional value to the customer, and, allow you the marketer to increase your average customer value.

      And, what they ALL have in common, is that there is an option as to whether you say "yes please" or "no thankyou."

      No one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this.

      Yes, I do have additional programs. I recommend you get them, because they are good. But it's completely up to you.

      And complaining that I don't talk about the additional offers in the initial front end sales video is also stupid. Have you ever watched any sales video and heard them say, "hey, after you buy this, we're going to offer you 3 other programs in our OTO sequence!!" - I don't think so.

      I thought this was supposed to be a marketing forum.

      Some idiot was also complaining that the videos in the course are too long - imagine that... someone complaining about 'too much' content.

      And Dennis - buddy, I'm actually in Panama scouting locations for a big event we are putting on next year- as I clearly wrote in my email.

      I will gladly put our success statistics of members in MTTB up against any other system out there. Every day that system is making partners tens of thousands of dollars. It clearly works, and most people really love it. Those who don't... are more than welcome to refund the 49.

      Thankyou for the support from some of you above - who have actually used the system.

      For anyone reading this - here's the deal: you can go through MTTB yourself, and see what it's like.

      Yes, some of the Steps may take you more than 30 minutes, because not every lesson in IM fits conveniently inside a 30 minute time slot.

      But, you'll get a very good grounding when it comes to selling high ticket items on the internet.

      If you get to the end and MTTB it's not for you... simply contact our support. Easy.
      With every success there will be those that come against you to damage all you worked so hard to achieve! I have one piece of advice for those bashing and complaining if the program isn't for you then don't do it! success doesn't happen over night and if it does then failure is right behind it! It takes time dedication and great sacrifices to live a life you desire! Jeez people Walgreens started as a small pharmacy in a small town and now its on every corner all around the world if the founder listened to all the Debbie downers and negativity there would be no Walgreens! All it takes is a small spark to create a wild fire stop all the negativity! Matt Lloyd I want to join your team!
    • Profile picture of the author ScrooG
      Originally Posted by mattlloyd View Post

      I am constantly surprised by how moronic some of the people on this forum are.

      Especially Mr Dennis Martin.

      @Dennis - I've never met you, but, I'd be willing to bet anyone on this forum that you have never had any real success online before. Admit it - I'm right, aren't I?

      I didn't get your email - if I'd seen it though, the first thing I'd do is get you off my list. Making threats that you're going to go post about me on a forum... typical signs of an amateur.

      If you haven't got a refund for the 49 tell me your email now, and I'll do it myself. Frankly I'm embarrassed to have had you as a customer.

      For those whining about the fact that I offer additional programs in MTTB - yes I do.
      Nice way to start a post in which you're trying to convince people you're a good marketer. Wow. Already I don't want to learn from you!

      Originally Posted by mattlloyd View Post

      It's what we in the business refer to as an "upsell" - or an OTO. They do 2 things: offer additional value to the customer, and, allow you the marketer to increase your average customer value.

      And, what they ALL have in common, is that there is an option as to whether you say "yes please" or "no thankyou."

      No one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this.

      Yes, I do have additional programs. I recommend you get them, because they are good. But it's completely up to you.

      And complaining that I don't talk about the additional offers in the initial front end sales video is also stupid. Have you ever watched any sales video and heard them say, "hey, after you buy this, we're going to offer you 3 other programs in our OTO sequence!!" - I don't think so.

      I thought this was supposed to be a marketing forum.
      Well, this is a marketing forum. I've been on here 2 years and have never seen anyone offer a free WSO and then say it's $49, and THEN say it's actually close to $2k!

      Let's face it Matt, it's totally DISHONEST of you to do that! And as soon as I heard about it I decided not to do business with you.

      But that's okay, you don't want me as part of your business anyway, right? Because I call a spade a spade. It's one thing to offer an OTO and another to offer an OTO that is pretty much necessary to buy in order to make the original offer work AND charge them 40 times the amount of the original offer! That's beyond "OTO", that's scamming people!

      Originally Posted by mattlloyd View Post

      Some idiot was also complaining that the videos in the course are too long - imagine that... someone complaining about 'too much' content.
      "Too long" does not equate to "too much content".
      "Too long" means spending too much time without getting to the point.

      Originally Posted by mattlloyd View Post

      And Dennis - buddy, I'm actually in Panama scouting locations for a big event we are putting on next year- as I clearly wrote in my email.

      I will gladly put our success statistics of members in MTTB up against any other system out there. Every day that system is making partners tens of thousands of dollars. It clearly works, and most people really love it. Those who don't... are more than welcome to refund the 49.

      Thankyou for the support from some of you above - who have actually used the system.

      For anyone reading this - here's the deal: you can go through MTTB yourself, and see what it's like.
      Sure, if we've got $2k laying around just to find out WHAT your system is all about. As others have said here, who the hell spends $2k on something sign unseen? Only the most desperate and easily "sold" newbies are going to do that.

      Originally Posted by mattlloyd View Post

      Yes, some of the Steps may take you more than 30 minutes, because not every lesson in IM fits conveniently inside a 30 minute time slot.

      But, you'll get a very good grounding when it comes to selling high ticket items on the internet.

      If you get to the end and MTTB it's not for you... simply contact our support. Easy.
      Then why SAY it if it isn't true??

      Matt, you seem to have a problem with the concept of "Truth in marketing" and the above thread proves it. Aside from that I just don't like you. You come off as arrogant, nasty and untruthful.
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    • Profile picture of the author rrram2
      great MATT!

      EVER HEAR OF FULL DISCLOSURE IN ADVANCE?!? THE FACT REMAINS THAT IF WHAT I HAVE READ HERE IS TRUE, THEN YOU ARE IN FACT A SCAMMER! A scammer hides, a scammer doesnt believe in full disclose in advance, and if someone has to spend $2000, it is dishonest #fraud to fail to disclose that, make any lame brain excuse you want, failure to disclose important details in advance = SCAM.

      there is nothing quite like taking advantage of the ignorance of others when you make a bunch of money is there Matt?!?

      if you need $49, I'll send it to you Matt, but then can we communicate and share the whole truth and nothing but the truth, Matt? not likely eh?


      without full disclosure in advance its a scam and blatant and intentional fraud! uNF said!
      Originally Posted by mattlloyd View Post

      I am constantly surprised by how moronic some of the people on this forum are.

      Especially Mr Dennis Martin.

      @Dennis - I've never met you, but, I'd be willing to bet anyone on this forum that you have never had any real success online before. Admit it - I'm right, aren't I?

      I didn't get your email - if I'd seen it though, the first thing I'd do is get you off my list. Making threats that you're going to go post about me on a forum... typical signs of an amateur.

      If you haven't got a refund for the 49 tell me your email now, and I'll do it myself. Frankly I'm embarrassed to have had you as a customer.

      For those whining about the fact that I offer additional programs in MTTB - yes I do.

      It's what we in the business refer to as an "upsell" - or an OTO. They do 2 things: offer additional value to the customer, and, allow you the marketer to increase your average customer value.

      And, what they ALL have in common, is that there is an option as to whether you say "yes please" or "no thankyou."

      No one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this.

      Yes, I do have additional programs. I recommend you get them, because they are good. But it's completely up to you.

      And complaining that I don't talk about the additional offers in the initial front end sales video is also stupid. Have you ever watched any sales video and heard them say, "hey, after you buy this, we're going to offer you 3 other programs in our OTO sequence!!" - I don't think so.

      I thought this was supposed to be a marketing forum.

      Some idiot was also complaining that the videos in the course are too long - imagine that... someone complaining about 'too much' content.

      And Dennis - buddy, I'm actually in Panama scouting locations for a big event we are putting on next year- as I clearly wrote in my email.

      I will gladly put our success statistics of members in MTTB up against any other system out there. Every day that system is making partners tens of thousands of dollars. It clearly works, and most people really love it. Those who don't... are more than welcome to refund the 49.

      Thankyou for the support from some of you above - who have actually used the system.

      For anyone reading this - here's the deal: you can go through MTTB yourself, and see what it's like.

      Yes, some of the Steps may take you more than 30 minutes, because not every lesson in IM fits conveniently inside a 30 minute time slot.

      But, you'll get a very good grounding when it comes to selling high ticket items on the internet.

      If you get to the end and MTTB it's not for you... simply contact our support. Easy.
  • Profile picture of the author Forex To Success
    I paid $49, just want to see what it is, but i didn't go ahead for the $2000 upsell. I am not saying the system is not going to work, it's just that the training itself keep showing me how good the system is, and all these people there are make this amount ...etc. However, it didn't show me how good the quality their high ticket products are, why it worth such a high cost?.....Basically, it's like i was told to promote an item which was claimed profitable, but i don't know much about the feature of this item until i pay $2000 for an entry ticket first. Matt is right; no one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this; neither the $49 front sell. Everyone has an option.

    So, there are only 3 types of people:
    A) People who bought the $2000 upsell, hoping/believe the system work
    B) People who refuse to spend $2000 upsell, don't 100% believe the system work
    C) People who want to, but can't afford the $2000 upsell

    There is always Type A people existing out there. They spent a fair amount of money already, of course they will try their very best to sell the product to any potential buyers to earn back the $ they paid, regardless of the quality of the product. I am not challenging the quality of the product here (as i never have a chance to try it myself), maybe it worth far more than it cost.... Just my 2 cents

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