my top tier business, matt lloyd

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I got email today regarding matt lloyd's my top tier business. Anyone joined this and any feedback? It says its free but costs just 49 to join to keep tire tickers out and if selected, we pay nothing for this and there is a guarantee of 500 dollars if we dont make 1000 bucks in 30 days and follow a 21 step system. he says it costs 5000 as training and we get it free and need not pay it until we make 50,000? Any reviews guys, planning to join this.
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  • Profile picture of the author salamandar
    Hi, macmani,

    I joined 9 days ago, probably from the same mailing you received, and paid the $49. The trickled training that I took was pretty good and the future looked promising.

    Then, surprise!!!!! At around the end of the first week I was informed I had to buy a MOBE license for $1997 in order to continue.

    Somebody forgot to mention it in the advertising...

    I actually signed a non-disclosure agreement while I was digesting this new information. But I don't want eat into my monetary resources to the tune of $2K before I'm assured the products will sell.

    Those products seem to be good quality.

    It remains to be proven to me how many affiliates of the system can make a decent living, let alone driving around in their own Mercedes.

    But for now, I'm on the sidelines.

    Maurice
    • Profile picture of the author CtrlAltRage
      Heya Mac,

      I've recently become a Licensee of Matt Lloyd's and I can say that it DOES take some work to get it running.

      Coaching wise it's pretty solid but it is definitely focused around the MOBE series of products.

      If you have any questions regarding it, let me know I can answer any questions. Just shoot me a PM.
    • Profile picture of the author Boyka
      Originally Posted by salamandar View Post

      Hi, macmani,

      I joined 9 days ago, probably from the same mailing you received, and paid the $49. The trickled training that I took was pretty good and the future looked promising.

      Then, surprise!!!!! At around the end of the first week I was informed I had to buy a MOBE license for $1997 in order to continue.

      Somebody forgot to mention it in the advertising...

      I actually signed a non-disclosure agreement while I was digesting this new information. But I don't want eat into my monetary resources to the tune of $2K before I'm assured the products will sell.

      Those products seem to be good quality.

      It remains to be proven to me how many affiliates of the system can make a decent living, let alone driving around in their own Mercedes.

      But for now, I'm on the sidelines.

      Maurice
      Well well well...if you have to pay 49$ and a MOBE licence almost 2k$ and then you earn only 1k$ within 30 days, then you still have a debt of almost 1k$...Is it profitable ?

      I don`t try to act like an A** but Matt Lloyd should mention from start that you need to invest atleast 2k$ in his business to start getting high commisions.
    • Profile picture of the author crashenburner
      I had serious concerns about getting into another mlm or online marketing venture.
      Frankly it became apparent to me that most of them were dysfunctional for the inexperienced.
      Also, I was willing to except my failings as my own and not pass them on.
      So what happens? Another shiny object pops up and I am hooked...
      I had to have more info and I needed it from the horse's mouth.
      I went to a super charge summit where I would meet the owner and other big earners as well as those just getting started.
      So here is my report.
      These people were some of the most genuine down to earth folks I have ever seen gathered in one location. Three days I spent picking their minds and feeling their pocket books.
      In the last 10 days I have not found anything illegal or shameful about MTTB / MOBE.
      Exactly the opposite.
      This is a business for people that understand it takes money to make money and that the right mind set to make the kind of money these folks are making requires firm discipline.
      90% of the people going through their funnel do not....the good news is that the "know how" to create the mindset for the desire is built into the training, coaching and events.
      I had to go through a little bit of hell to change my old way of thinking.
      Scam? No. Scam is the cop out phrase for those who live their lives based on fear.
      Sorry, but the truth will sting before it purifies. Can you get passed the pain is the question?
  • Profile picture of the author gilksy
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    • Profile picture of the author jamjar107
      I have recently joined MOBE from Matt LLoyd. The training is top draw and of good quality.
      It seems to be a good way of creating good commisions and they have a trained sales team. Response from email campaign is around 2% so not too bad a take up. Will keep you posted.
  • Profile picture of the author Cassano 10
    What is the MOBE licence?
    • Profile picture of the author gilksy
      The MOBE Licence gives you the licence rights to sell the core MOBE products for 90% commission (ranging from $87 to $267) and re-sell the MOBE licence itself for 50% commission ($1K).

      Considering the time and skills it takes to create your own products, it's a pretty good deal.

      PM me if you want more info and I'll send you a link to a video.

      Originally Posted by Cassano 10 View Post

      What is the MOBE licence?
  • Profile picture of the author getrichinfo
    I knew it! there is definitely a catch somewhere!
    • Profile picture of the author cajun
      Originally Posted by getrichinfo View Post

      I knew it! there is definitely a catch somewhere!
      When it sounds too good to be true....
  • Profile picture of the author agoodsaid
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    • Profile picture of the author TheMaleRN
      Originally Posted by agoodsaid View Post

      Hi guys -

      Total transparency here - I've been selling Matt's stuff for about 18mos. And I've made $ (feel free to PM for a screenshot - though I would ask for your discretion) ... it's not a fortune, but it's nothing to sneeze at either.

      I don't drive cold traffic so don't ask me for conversion numbers or anything. I have a small responsive list that I treat very well and they in turn buy the stuff I recommend.

      Am liking this MTTB funnel very well, not too clear on the sales page wording, it's being tweaked to be as clear, yet irresistible as possible (a gotcha feeling does no one any good) but the content up to the point that Maurice mentions is worth the $49 and then some imho - especially to folks who aren't clear about why large commissions are so much more powerful than small ones or who have yet to fully 'get' what's possible with the economics side of high ticket IM.

      They're literally like night and day vs. one off affiliate commissions.

      Changed our family's reality (MOBE and 2 others).

      Matt's a solid and thorough teacher, my folks come out the other side with what they need to take further action, he creates upsell offers that convert and he pays on time.

      That's a winning combo in my book.

      Hope that helps,
      Andrea

      Thanks for being honest. How are things with MOBE sales at this point though?
    • Profile picture of the author agoodsaid
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    • Profile picture of the author WFDUDE
      Originally Posted by agoodsaid View Post

      Hi guys -

      Total transparency here - I've been selling Matt's stuff for about 18mos. And I've made $ (feel free to PM for a screenshot - though I would ask for your discretion) ... it's not a fortune, but it's nothing to sneeze at either.

      I don't drive cold traffic so don't ask me for conversion numbers or anything. I have a small responsive list that I treat very well and they in turn buy the stuff I recommend.

      Am liking this MTTB funnel very well, not too clear on the sales page wording, it's being tweaked to be as clear, yet irresistible as possible (a gotcha feeling does no one any good) but the content up to the point that Maurice mentions is worth the $49 and then some imho - especially to folks who aren't clear about why large commissions are so much more powerful than small ones or who have yet to fully 'get' what's possible with the economics side of high ticket IM.

      They're literally like night and day vs. one off affiliate commissions.

      Changed our family's reality (MOBE and 2 others).

      Matt's a solid and thorough teacher, my folks come out the other side with what they need to take further action, he creates upsell offers that convert and he pays on time.

      That's a winning combo in my book.

      Hope that helps,
      Andrea
      Did you say total transparency here? Um, that's hilarious.
  • Profile picture of the author SarahEmpower
    I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
    and never ask you for a single dime for it
    until AFTER you make money with it.
    - That was part of the sales letter...

    1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
    2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
    • Profile picture of the author smak
      Guys don't bother with this MTTB program.

      You will be required to pay $2k just to become affiliate of their products. And that too without really having clue as to the salesletters of products u will be asked to promote or any other material that can aid marketing.

      Tell me does clickbank/ebay/amazon or many others charge you any monies to become affiliate? Off course no. So why the heck are these guys charging $2k for what effectively is to become affiliate of their products.

      Also on their salesletter they say things like each of the 21 step will take you 30 minutes to complete. But I covered 3 steps and they all seem to have recordings of seminar presentations lasting 1 hour & more.

      Just hate these kind of things. So fed up of such tactics.
    • Profile picture of the author cajun
      Originally Posted by SarahEmpower View Post

      I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
      and never ask you for a single dime for it
      until AFTER you make money with it.
      - That was part of the sales letter...

      1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
      2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
      So halfway thru the 21 steps I need to buy a $2000 license? If I don't, means I didn't complete a step, so forfeit $500 guarantee, plus $49 already paid?
      Please clarify...
      What did you do, Maurice?
      tx
    • Profile picture of the author webmind
      Originally Posted by SarahEmpower View Post

      I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
      and never ask you for a single dime for it
      until AFTER you make money with it.
      - That was part of the sales letter...

      1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
      2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
      Why would anyone trust a guy who straight out lies in his sales letter? Free? Or $2000? What's the difference among friends!
  • Profile picture of the author Forex To Success
    I just signed up yesterday. Now i read this post and start smelling fishy.
    I will see how i goes and keep everyone update
  • Profile picture of the author higherluv
    (From anyone who’s tried this…) if we get on board how do they expect us to promote their products?
  • Profile picture of the author mattlloyd
    I am constantly surprised by how moronic some of the people on this forum are.

    Especially Mr Dennis Martin.

    @Dennis - I've never met you, but, I'd be willing to bet anyone on this forum that you have never had any real success online before. Admit it - I'm right, aren't I?

    I didn't get your email - if I'd seen it though, the first thing I'd do is get you off my list. Making threats that you're going to go post about me on a forum... typical signs of an amateur.

    If you haven't got a refund for the 49 tell me your email now, and I'll do it myself. Frankly I'm embarrassed to have had you as a customer.

    For those whining about the fact that I offer additional programs in MTTB - yes I do.

    It's what we in the business refer to as an "upsell" - or an OTO. They do 2 things: offer additional value to the customer, and, allow you the marketer to increase your average customer value.

    And, what they ALL have in common, is that there is an option as to whether you say "yes please" or "no thankyou."

    No one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this.

    Yes, I do have additional programs. I recommend you get them, because they are good. But it's completely up to you.

    And complaining that I don't talk about the additional offers in the initial front end sales video is also stupid. Have you ever watched any sales video and heard them say, "hey, after you buy this, we're going to offer you 3 other programs in our OTO sequence!!" - I don't think so.

    I thought this was supposed to be a marketing forum.

    Some idiot was also complaining that the videos in the course are too long - imagine that... someone complaining about 'too much' content.

    And Dennis - buddy, I'm actually in Panama scouting locations for a big event we are putting on next year- as I clearly wrote in my email.

    I will gladly put our success statistics of members in MTTB up against any other system out there. Every day that system is making partners tens of thousands of dollars. It clearly works, and most people really love it. Those who don't... are more than welcome to refund the 49.

    Thankyou for the support from some of you above - who have actually used the system.

    For anyone reading this - here's the deal: you can go through MTTB yourself, and see what it's like.

    Yes, some of the Steps may take you more than 30 minutes, because not every lesson in IM fits conveniently inside a 30 minute time slot.

    But, you'll get a very good grounding when it comes to selling high ticket items on the internet.

    If you get to the end and MTTB it's not for you... simply contact our support. Easy.
    • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
      Hey Matt,
      Your answer to Dennis sounds a bit arrogant but I can understand that because you may be a bit pissed off.
      Pls give us a straight answer to this question:

      What happens with your $500 guarantee + $49 refund on day 30 if the $1,000 mark is not reached after the 21 steps, and MOBE hasn't been purchased. Is MOBE one of the 21?
    • Profile picture of the author snatchsquad
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    • Profile picture of the author Michelle Green
      Originally Posted by mattlloyd View Post

      I am constantly surprised by how moronic some of the people on this forum are...
      Matt, I admire your passion. But I think you may have done more harm to your reputation than good by responding in the defensive manner that you have. Customers complain about products all the time, but until one experiences it for themselves it's all hear say. It's nothing a little reputation management won't resolve. However, when you lash out in public like that all of a sudden it's no longer hear say. People will assume it must be true because of the way you've reacted. I've seen your presentation, you are a great marketer, but part of being a great business man is knowing how to react to and resolve customer dissatisfaction effectively. It's also humbling yourself to receive constructive criticism. When people see FREE that's exactly what they expect. You might want to use more caution when throwing that word around prior to hitting people with a $49 entry and then a $2000 upsell. Good luck, I wish you the best sir.
  • Profile picture of the author Forex To Success
    I paid $49, just want to see what it is, but i didn't go ahead for the $2000 upsell. I am not saying the system is not going to work, it's just that the training itself keep showing me how good the system is, and all these people there are make this amount ...etc. However, it didn't show me how good the quality their high ticket products are, why it worth such a high cost?.....Basically, it's like i was told to promote an item which was claimed profitable, but i don't know much about the feature of this item until i pay $2000 for an entry ticket first. Matt is right; no one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this; neither the $49 front sell. Everyone has an option.

    So, there are only 3 types of people:
    A) People who bought the $2000 upsell, hoping/believe the system work
    B) People who refuse to spend $2000 upsell, don't 100% believe the system work
    C) People who want to, but can't afford the $2000 upsell

    There is always Type A people existing out there. They spent a fair amount of money already, of course they will try their very best to sell the product to any potential buyers to earn back the $ they paid, regardless of the quality of the product. I am not challenging the quality of the product here (as i never have a chance to try it myself), maybe it worth far more than it cost.... Just my 2 cents
  • Profile picture of the author Mattie
    Love it, his Avatar is the, "Godfather" - is he trying to tell us something.

    From his copy: "And while John Chow and Jonathan Budd did have some prior online experience" Like saying the sea is a bit salt.

    John Chow see: milliondollarjourney.c*m/john-chow-internet-mogul.htm
    Jonathan Budd: CEO/President at Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc

    Read into this what you will.

    I've been around this forum for a long time; never seen an outright $2000.00 payment called an OTO and why would someone require payment for selling their products.

    CtrlAltRage: $2049.00 to make $1100.00 over a three month period - You'd do a lot better with Amazon, without the expense.

    RobertoM: Think you'll ever get a straight answer?

    ***************
    • Profile picture of the author Brandon Ellis
      Mattie, your avatar is showing "Nothing" - think you're telling us something?

      John Chow and Budd obviously have big brands they've built up from hard work. That's why Chow has made over $200,000 partnering with Matt.

      But I guess you choose to see what you want to see, since there are hundreds of average people you've never heard (lot's of testimonials actually are shown on the sales page and VSL) of making a nice income with MTTB. Some "newcomers" even in their first week.

      And those that don't succeed right away get loads of support in a very active group for all members.

      And yes, I am biased because my first week I partnered with Matt, I personally received four $1,000 commissions and several other sales. Why? Because I took action. And no, I was not a newbie but that's not the issue here.

      If this looks bad to you, then move on... You're personally responsible for anything you do and anything you get.

      The question is whether you're going to whine and "LOOK" for a reason why it won't work, or if you're willing to roll your sleeves up and DO something.

      Legit questions are appreciated. Whining and supporting others who want to whine with you will keep your progress at ZERO.

      The rest of your comments show you make no sense and know nothing of what you're talking about...

      Requiring payment for selling and "owning" products is something called Licensing. Maybe you've heard of the term Franchise before. And show me another program that can give you $1,000-$5,000+ commissions. And a big problem with affiliate marketing and def. a lot of what you see here, is the affiliates usually DON'T own the product and have never went through it, they promote blindly preaching it's awesomeness, then a lot of people end up getting crap products...

      Not sure where in the world you got "make 1,100.00 over a 3 month period" from. Think much bigger than that. My best advice for you is to stick with Amazon since that's where you think you'll succeed better.

      I wouldn't come here in the first place, but it seems like a lot of you like to knock what you haven't tried. And you're knocking a friend. A friend that has a system that is helping a lot people that are willing to help themselves, and it solves a lot of problems of them trying to do it all by themselves.

      (Don't want to license someone's entire business out and don't see the huge value and leverage that gives you, then spend 2-3 years and create it yourself.)

      It's also a system that I personally have had a lot of success with and plan to have a LOT more.

      I've wasted enough time here already, but hopefully this will help a few people honestly looking for a real business and are willing to act fast and work the system. If you're thinking about joining ANY system, you don't come here to ask about it.

      Why don't you contact people on the testimonials page that have actually went through and had success with it? Ask them questions, ask them if they'd be willing to help. Ask them for pro's and con's etc... Tell them your fears and frustrations, concerns...

      "You are who you hang around with." -something to think about...


      Originally Posted by Mattie View Post

      Love it, his Avatar is the, "Godfather" - is he trying to tell us something.

      From his copy: "And while John Chow and Jonathan Budd did have some prior online experience" Like saying the sea is a bit salt.

      John Chow see: milliondollarjourney.c*m/john-chow-internet-mogul.htm
      Jonathan Budd: CEO/President at Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc

      Read into this what you will.

      I've been around this forum for a long time; never seen an outright $2000.00 payment called an OTO and why would someone require payment for selling their products.

      CtrlAltRage: $2049.00 to make $1100.00 over a three month period - You'd do a lot better with Amazon, without the expense.

      RobertoM: Think you'll ever get a straight answer?

      ***************
    • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
      Originally Posted by Mattie View Post

      RobertoM: Think you'll ever get a straight answer?
      You are right Mattie,
      I received an email from his Support Dept. saying that he will no longer answer questions.
      Nice attitude, uh?
  • Profile picture of the author Forex To Success
    I would be interest to know, how come the money back guarantee is $500, not $2046 (1997+49)?
    • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
      Originally Posted by Forex To Success View Post

      I would be interest to know, how come the money back guarantee is $500, not $2046 (1997+49)?
      Use your brain. :rolleyes:
    • Profile picture of the author ginasands
      It would seem that the guarantee is MTTB's not the customer. If you are REQUIRED to pay the $1,997.00before you can complete the 21 steps than they still have $1500 of your money. You don't qualify for the $500 unless you have paid the $1,997.00 Simple Math and Simply Not cool for me. They win either way
  • Profile picture of the author Gedas
    For those whining about the fact that I offer additional programs in MTTB - yes I do.

    It's what we in the business refer to as an "upsell" - or an OTO. They do 2 things: offer additional value to the customer, and, allow you the marketer to increase your average customer value.

    And, what they ALL have in common, is that there is an option as to whether you say "yes please" or "no thankyou."
    Yes, upsells are VERY normal in this business. But when you say that it's completely FREE and after couple of steps people realize that they'll have to spend additional 2k, it seems like you are lying in the newsletter.

    When building a business I think it's easier to build solid relationship with customers by being honest and telling what they can expect in the future. But you are trying to get money simply by lying. Of course that will work, cause there always are people who are going to buy. But I guess majority of the people will feel scammed and mislead. And even though you already are millionaire and guru but I can't imagine how you expect to grow your business in you continue misleading people.

    The idea of MTTB seemed great. Just allow as many people as possible to advertise your program and they will make money for you. And the best thing that affiliates still have to pay for the program when they make certain amount of commissions. Everything made sense until people started to complain about being scammed...
  • Profile picture of the author CynthiaNataline
    What about the affiliate program? Is it still good to be an affiliate only, not as a licensee?
  • Profile picture of the author downtxway
    Below is an e-mail I sent just this morning. I believed in the advertisement and he has a really good sales pitch. I was even willing to spend the money but to be tricked is not ethical. I believe his program will work but it will cost you an extra $2,000 to get through the 21 steps. If that would have be told upfront, the result, wasted time and meeting with his crone's would have been different.
    Hello Solomon, I really feel cheated by Matt Lloyd and the group. To tell someone that you are going to help them, get them sucked into the sales funnel and then tell them that they have to spend $2,000 dollar half way through the steps is wrong. I have the money to spend and it should be my choice to spend it. I shouldn't feel tricked into it. I think I will not just send you this e-mail but I'm going to post it in warrior forum as well. Thank you but no thank you!
  • Profile picture of the author Gedas
    Yeah, exactly. I believe that this system does it job well and I also would be willing to spend money on it. However, when Matt says that "I'll fix the Internet", "I'll give it for free", "you won't have to pay before you make money" etc etc and then you have to buy something for $2,000, I also feel tricked into buying. And people don't really like to feel that way.
  • Profile picture of the author jobotting
    Hi There,

    I am a Platinum member and can guarantee that it works. All you need to do is drive traffic to the already done sales pages and the phone team does the rest.

    Its that easy.

    Any traffic will do - either solo ads or social.

    It is all working.

    Let me know if you have any other questions.
    • Profile picture of the author KingDarius
      Originally Posted by jobotting View Post

      Hi There,

      I am a Platinum member and can guarantee that it works. All you need to do is drive traffic to the already done sales pages and the phone team does the rest.

      Its that easy.

      Any traffic will do - either solo ads or social.

      It is all working.

      Let me know if you have any other questions.
      ok, everybody is complaining about the $2000 fee for becoming a licensee, but I'm interested to know, because, I don't have the money that's for sure, HOW can I work my way up to becoming one?
    • Profile picture of the author gfoo
      Originally Posted by jobotting View Post

      Hi There,

      I am a Platinum member and can guarantee that it works. All you need to do is drive traffic to the already done sales pages and the phone team does the rest.

      Its that easy.

      Any traffic will do - either solo ads or social.

      It is all working.

      Let me know if you have any other questions.
      Pls skpe me on gtopgun1 . I need to know more . Thanks.
  • Profile picture of the author sftwr1000
    Only one do earn money from it for sure....Whether you earn money or not depends on traffic driven by you....You would pay 2k and would also have to drive traffic to product to get commission !!!
  • Profile picture of the author clint52146
    Hey Matt, The question is not about the $500 but the $1997 right after Step 6. You lead me to believe I was getting th isd system for free. You got me excited then told me to fuk off cause I could not afford the $1997. In the sales letter you promised me 21 steps for FREE but I can't go past step 6 because of the license fee that we didn't know about. Since I wanted to go on but was forced to stop then you should pay the $500 that you didn't give me a chance to try for. You're a piece of %$&# scammer. Thats what I think of you.

    Clint
  • Profile picture of the author clint52146
    You say the system is free and the $49 is an application fee. Fine but your system is not free. If it is then why was I forced to stop after Step 6. Marlon said I had to purchase the license in order to go any further. So stop lying and scamming about the fact you made a mistake and are refusing to pay for it. The system is free if you pay $1997 for the license but without the license you don't get the system. Christ, you don"t even know your own system. earlier you say we don't have to have the license but we just make less money. Bull.....
    • Profile picture of the author Forex To Success
      Hey Clint, get that Marlon guy to read this thread, and quote Matt's word at post #37 "..........It actually won't cost you 2k to go through the 21 steps, if you don't want it to. You are perfectly welcome not to become a MOBE Licensee, and stay on as a regular affiliate....." See how he respond

      Originally Posted by clint52146 View Post

      You say the system is free and the $49 is an application fee. Fine but your system is not free. If it is then why was I forced to stop after Step 6. Marlon said I had to purchase the license in order to go any further. So stop lying and scamming about the fact you made a mistake and are refusing to pay for it. The system is free if you pay $1997 for the license but without the license you don't get the system. Christ, you don"t even know your own system. earlier you say we don't have to have the license but we just make less money. Bull.....

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