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How is Sean Donahoe's Profit Builder? Any issues? How easy is it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    Originally Posted by Howlerckc View Post

    How is Sean Donahoe's Profit Builder? Any issues? How easy is it?
    Issues? It's a Sean Donahoe product, so of course there are issues, and I imagine plenty of them.

    However, maybe not so many this time around. Andrew Hunter gave a decent interview about the product.

    Edited: Ah, sorry. Can't give the video link. It has Andrew's affiliate link in it. But you can simply do a search for profit builder on youtube.
  • Profile picture of the author ajacko
    Just tried to load the site on an iPad and there were quite a number of errors inc. videos not showing and large areas of blank space. So, looks like responsive/browser errors in css. Hopefully, they'll iron these out.
    • Profile picture of the author BeechHill
      This is actually a pretty good builder system that Sean modified. I happen to know where he got it. The developer of the original system is pretty active with updates. So, I feel confident that any core issues will be addressed as they have been over a year since the initial release..

      I have to believe any errors right now are a result of the additional features packed onto the core product.

      I also feel a little bit stung though by the first OTO, which I purchased, as there is little here other than a promise for more to come. This felt like a rush to try to include something that wasn't ready for prime time yet.

      The real value here is the core web builder itself and the initial included templates with the modifications of the builder for IM. The intro price being pretty reasonable for this, all considered.
  • Profile picture of the author star007
    What are the major differences between Profitbuilder and Instabuilder?
    • Profile picture of the author RussGu3
      Interesting that Shane Melaugh just came out with his Thrive Landing Pages plugin today, as well.

      A lot of similarities, though Thrive is $20 more than Profit Builder. And he doesn't include a theme, like Sean does.

      But, a "premium" plugin shouldn't mess with any theme, especially a premium one. So, the theme is really just a little extra enticement.

      Still, I'm more drawn to Thrive than Profit Builder. It seems to have more overall flexibility. But fewer templates. Hmmm.

      Anyone else been looking at both? Or care to?

      Because for me, Profit Builder seems to provide the greatest value (at the moment), yet Thrive Landing Pages seems to be the better product...
  • Profile picture of the author cjseven
    I don't think those are good arguments.

    Running sites with php5.2 is like looking for trouble. 5.2 is EOL and has a lot of vulnerabilities.

    And Ioncube is a "must" to have installed. There are a lot of programmers that use it on their WP plugins and themes, and external php scripts.

    I agree there are some (a lot of) complaints about other SD products but I don't agree that demanding ioncube and php5.3 is something to complain about.
    • Profile picture of the author BeechHill
      I have to agree, most Internet providers already have iconCube loader installed and everyone should be running the latest PHP stable release. This is really a non issue.

      As far as a comparison between Shane Melaugh's Thrive Content Builder and Profit Builder . They both represent the same philosophy of the new wave of WP web builders. In reality they are just fancy shortcode generators. Shane Melaugh has a nice product, but it's a struggle to compete with all the other builders out there. Good templates and easy implementation and modification of them is the key. Both products give you a live update view of your work. As I mentioned Profit Builder is being built on a product that has already had over 12 months of experience among users. So, in reality it's not new, just updated.

      The main difference, as I see it, is Thrive Content Builder is a little skimpy yet on elements and somewhat pricier for the developer license. However, I also agree that Shane Melaugh himself is a professional with solid products and a pleasure to do business with.
  • Profile picture of the author Howlerckc
    Anyone having issues with the built in timers?
    • Profile picture of the author cjseven
      Originally Posted by Howlerckc View Post

      Anyone having issues with the built in timers?
      The countdown?

      When I open a prebuilt template with a countdown it works fine (can edit).

      If I add a new one, then there are issues. I also found issues with some other shortcodes specially dynamic CONTENT related.
    • Profile picture of the author Nillionaire
      I already have Thrive Themes content builder and am planning to use it to add 2-step opt-in forms to my sites (the Opt-In Links plugin that was launched a few months ago supposedly did this but the review thread here on the WF showed that a lot of people couldn't get it to work...)

      I'm still going to get Profit Builder though because it seems that I can just hit a few buttons and get complete ready-made pages like the one on the sales page.

      So, haven't tried them out yet but my impression is that Thrive Themes would be good for more hands-on control and Profit Builder for speed.
  • Profile picture of the author Bill Cousins
    I was given a copy of this by Sean to try out and after playing with it all day I have decided to use it for all my sales sites from here on out! This system is awesome and as an optimize press user I gotta tell ya it really seems like a much more user friendly way to go and that is saying a lot because I really like OP2!

    Anyway just wanted to jump in here and give my opinion.

    As soon as I have my newest site built with it I'll post the link to it in here so you can see an example and that I really am using it!

    BC
    • Profile picture of the author AUKev
      Using one of the included templates, I built the following page in about two hours. Obviously, it is not complete, but I spent dozens of hours trying to do the same thing with InstaBuilder and Authority Pro 3 without nearly this much success.


      I am a technical guy and not a marketer, so I amazed myself getting this done in such a short time. Again, time will tell if this product has decent support.

      A new update was issued today and I was able to upload the new version from the Plugin menu without having to physically download any files and everything worked flawlessly.

      As for the question about GetResponse, it works fine by adding your HMTL code for your form from GR right into the squeeze page. Tested and works fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author geotargeted
    I really want to use Profit Builder, but there is one HUGE issue what I can't. It's mobile responsiveness SUCKS!

    All one has to do is look at any of the templates on their mobile device. If mobile responsiveness is not an issue for you, then it is a cool system at a dirt cheap price. But of you like your website and sales pages to render properly on a mobile device, then stay away.

    Here is the big issue with this, Sean did not develop the core function of the plugin. It is a plugin for sale on CodeCanyon, I think its called the front end builder. So him not having it developed personally, what is the likelihood that proper responsive options will EVER be added? Slim to none, this is Sean we are talking about after all.

    OptimiePress is a much more mature platform and their entire business is OptimizePress, not the next shiny object they can sell. OP has options for their elements to not display on mobiles, thus making it look proper.

    When you look at PB on a mobile, text overlaps, text and elements are not aligned properly, elements that only look correct on the right or left, like arrows, get stacked and look unprofessional.

    Anyway, that is my 2 cents.
  • Profile picture of the author cjseven
    "SUCKS" is a very strong word.

    It is not perfect but a few css lines to align images and increase line height make it ok.

    Funny is I just opened both (OP and PB) in my "old" android to test them.
    PB opened ok. OP didn't respond to screen size - I get vertical and horizontal scrollbars.

    My concerns about PB are more related with some modules no working ok and future updates - that could be a big issue...
  • Profile picture of the author geotargeted
    You can enable or disable responsiveness in OptimizePress 2. Perhaps you are using version 1 or have it disabled in v2. All the pages I create, or templates I have used, in OptimizePress 2 have responded perfectly. The point of a front end builder is to NOT have to edit css. It would be a major pain to edit the media queries for each element that is not rendering well. So I do agree that "SUCKS" is a strong word, but I do think it sucks. Maybe I will put it in lower case next time!

    Have you see the PB sales page on a mobile? Case in point.
  • Profile picture of the author cjseven


    I opened OP homepage and PB homepage in my mobile. PB is not perfect like I said but is easy to fix. OP homepage opens like desktop. Maybe OP disabled responsiveness on their homepage or my mobile is not reading correctly.

    For me editing css is easy since I use microthemer plugin on every site but I agree with you that the point of a builder is not to have to edit files.

    And of course I agree also that OP is a mature product - and more expensive too.
    • Profile picture of the author Jim2564
      Does Microthemer really work on all themes as advertised?
    • Profile picture of the author AUKev
      Just picked up the Thrive content builder plugin. Will be putting it through the ringer over the next few days to determine which one I keep.

      After my initial surprise at how great PB was, it has completely waned. My website is sluggish, my pages were trashed when the license server was down and the history of products from the product seller leave me very apprehensive.

      Willing to see if the license issue is addressed in the next few days and will continue to try out the PB updates before asking for a refund.

      Will update the thread with a comparison of the differences between PB and Thrive in the next few days.
    • Profile picture of the author Nedseo
      Is thrive themes also a one time fee. And can i use thrive themes in comparison with clickbump.
  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    I went ahead and purchased this based on a couple of reviews on this thread.

    What an awesome product! I think if enough buyers will complain about the mobile responsiveness issue, Sean will get it fixed...someday.
    • Profile picture of the author BeechHill
      Originally Posted by Joan Altz View Post

      I went ahead and purchased this based on a couple of reviews on this thread.

      What an awesome product! I think if enough buyers will complain about the mobile responsiveness issue, Sean will get it fixed...someday.
      Really, he needs a good swift kick in the pants, as my mama would say, if he drops the ball on this one. He could hang his hat on this until retirement if he supports it right.

      I'm often amazed how many marketers "gun and run" on products that could be made into evergreen income. Buyers aren't the only ones chasing shiny objects.
  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    Just a helpful note about replacing the sample videos in the templates with different videos....

    A straight copy/paste of a video url (from YouTube or wherever) hasn't worked for me. You have to first add a space and then backspace after pasting the video url for the video to show up, replacing the sample video.

    Not sure if anyone else is having that issue, but the above is what I'm having to do.
  • Profile picture of the author cjseven
    There is a webinar on air right now.

    I'm trying to get answers about this issues:

    Shortcodes not working / incomplete instructions:

    - Basic > More Tag (no options panel)
    - Charts, Bars, Counters > Counter (no options panel)
    - Content > Creative Post Slider (doesn't retrieve categories)
    - Content > Posts (no options panel)
    - Content > Masonry Posts (no options panel)
    - Content > Categories (no options panel)
    - Content > Related Posts (no options panel)
    - Content > Portfolio (no options panel)
    - Content > Portfolio Alternative (no options panel)
    - Content > Posts Grid (no options panel)
    - Link List Elements > All Shortcodes (no options panel)
    - PBTheme WooCommerce > All Shortcodes (no options panel)

    This should be a PB Q&A but I guess it is just a way to push OTOs...
  • Profile picture of the author JennyLon
    This product sounds good on the surface however huge alarm bells for me the name Sean Donahoe his track record is very disturbing and as others have said above makes me nervous about buying ANY product he releases.


    Already folks on this have hiccups in a lot of things and mobile responsive seems not working and out the window on it - yet his video and frankly as usual spill he spins says it works fine...

    Sean is so often full of hype in all his launches indeed in this one his video he said "I spent tens of thousands of dollars developing this
    Oh really?
    (Jeez...P L E A S E .... give us a break Sean ...don't insult our frigging intelligence)

    Plus his promo video you can't even see the screen its so small when he builds stuff he's showing you so none the wise he does not bother zoooming in at any point it is so small you learn nothing and totally put me off

    He seems to have copied colored crayons own builder folk are saying - gosh, if so, again hmm, alarms bells repercussions down the road maybe....

    The biggie - though has to be said HIM... his darn personal history to date and support is often awful and non existent time after time with his stuff! From delay tactics and huge criticism throughout forums on this forum let alone and many others blimey with everything he does..begs the question, why is this going to be any different?
    Nope not for me how you do one thing is how you do everything....

    My best to you all.
    • Profile picture of the author Jim2564
      I've had excellent support from his Rapid Mailer Product. They even followed up when I forget to reply to their response. I can't speak for anyone else, but maybe he's ironed out the support issues over time?
  • Profile picture of the author TimothyW
    Someone I trust sent me an email that flat out says -- PB is not Sean's, it's for sale on (I think) theme forest for $22, and none of it is responsive.

    Any or all of that true?

    -- TW
  • Profile picture of the author cjseven
    I receive the "same" email. The answer is Yes and No.

    There is another version of the same plugin (probably the original) in codecanyon. It's for sale for $22. However...

    - it is one site license
    - it has less features
    - it doesn't include IM ready to use templates
    - It doesn't include the theme (at least I guess it doesn't...)

    Nevertheless some modules related to dynamic content like posts seem to work fine into codecanyon plugin and not so ok into PB plugin - waiting for PB support about this.

    About responsive functions, it is not perfect but it is responsive. You may need to hack some lines in CSS to make it flawless.
  • Profile picture of the author peterj
    I tested their sales page on my newish Sony android and the only issue is the big yellow 'click here to get profit builder'. The text fails to re-size.

    The only other product of Sean's I have purchased is Rapid Mailer and so far he has been updating and bug fixing.

    I know nothing of Sean's product and support history but maybe he has turned a corner.

    Rapid Mailer and Profit Builder are killer products.... if he sticks with them.
  • Profile picture of the author BeechHill
    Yes, the original product is Frontend Builder. I've owned it since it could barely walk and watched it grow over the last year. As I've said it's pretty solid and quick, especially when compared to something like Visual Composer, which I also have.

    The original authors of Frontend Builder have an API for developers and with Envato you're allowed to also sell your product nonexclusive to them. It would seem most of the current problems stem from the additional new features Sean has tacked onto the plugin. Most of which are there to enhance the IM user experience. He really only needs to concentrate on smoothing those out.

    Personally, Sean might have added a little more integrity to his offer if he lowered the hype a notch or two about years in the making and tens of thousands invested to build PB and just gone ahead and given some credit to the original developers. Can't figure out why he would believe we wouldn't find out? That's not to say that there still isn't a substantial effort in time and money made here to bring Profit Builder to the public.

    Just a side tip, I tested the included theme, but found it to be a bit clunky. You're just as well off to use the plugin with one of the included WordPress themes, or any simple theme with a good header and footer area. I ran into some conflicts trying to use the Genesis framework and child themes with font control.

    So, what's the real value with using Profit Builder?

    1) For little more than twice the price of Frontend Builder, you get a developers licence to use that product which also includes some enhanced features on as many sites as you want.

    2) The 60 some odd templates included. This gives you a real jumping off point to use them as is or modify them with PB and gets your website up and running as quickly as possible.

    Oh, and thanks cjseven for the excellent recommendation on Microthemer. That's a plugin everyone should have in their arsenal.

    edit............
    Just to confirm, someone asked about Profit Builder within the Frontend Builder comment area on Codecanyon.

    Hi,

    This Gentleman actually has Premium License to distribute Frontend Builder. This is the same product.

    Regards,
    Shindiri Studio
    • Profile picture of the author Rolliesworld
      So is there anyone else who has bought or is considering buying the actual core product that Profitbuilder is built on? (Frontend Builder on Codecanyon?

      Even though PB has some additional bells and whistles and templates....what's that all worth if it's all completely unsupported and not updated? Or is it now?

      Can you people who still hold onto PB please tell me if the product has had the same change logs like Frontend Builder itself? Who is looking after maintaining and upgrading PB if it's not the developer of the underlaying product (Frontend Builder)?

      Can you also tell me if PB has had the left sidebar (the one with the modules) removed, just like Frontend editor has, due to issues with WP v. 4.1 which apparently messed things up?

      I had PB refunded early on....but now looking for an actual drag and drop front-end builder plugin.

      Considering Frontend Builder, or Live Composer, and others like Visual Composer.
      I have read a few critical voices saying stuff about bad code left behind if any of these type front-end editors are de-activated...with shortcode left in there. I am referring to a recent article by Chris Lema.

      What would you go with and why, if you were looking for a WP page builder today?

      Originally Posted by BeechHill View Post

      Yes, the original product is Frontend Builder. I've owned it since it could barely walk and watched it grow over the last year. As I've said it's pretty solid and quick, especially when compared to something like Visual Composer, which I also have.

      The original authors of Frontend Builder have an API for developers and with Envato you're allowed to also sell your product nonexclusive to them. It would seem most of the current problems stem from the additional new features Sean has tacked onto the plugin. Most of which are there to enhance the IM user experience. He really only needs to concentrate on smoothing those out.

      Personally, Sean might have added a little more integrity to his offer if he lowered the hype a notch or two about years in the making and tens of thousands invested to build PB and just gone ahead and given some credit to the original developers. Can't figure out why he would believe we wouldn't find out? That's not to say that there still isn't a substantial effort in time and money made here to bring Profit Builder to the public.

      Just a side tip, I tested the included theme, but found it to be a bit clunky. You're just as well off to use the plugin with one of the included WordPress themes, or any simple theme with a good header and footer area. I ran into some conflicts trying to use the Genesis framework and child themes with font control.

      So, what's the real value with using Profit Builder?

      1) For little more than twice the price of Frontend Builder, you get a developers licence to use that product which also includes some enhanced features on as many sites as you want.

      2) The 60 some odd templates included. This gives you a real jumping off point to use them as is or modify them with PB and gets your website up and running as quickly as possible.

      Oh, and thanks cjseven for the excellent recommendation on Microthemer. That's a plugin everyone should have in their arsenal.

      edit............
      Just to confirm, someone asked about Profit Builder within the Frontend Builder comment area on Codecanyon.
  • Profile picture of the author scorpio9
    I have used Sean's demo version and the original demo version from the creator on CodeCanyon. First thing I noticed was Sean's version offered more option for adding videos. The version on CodeCanyon appears to be only good for YouTube videos, unless there is some other way I could not see - I left a comment for the developer to respond to.

    Going on past experience with Sean's sales tatics I would have bough the version on CodeCanyod but I have to admit Sean's version look like a great time saver, because I have tried building similar lead pages with Genesis themes and believe me they take quite a while to get right. So at the price he is selling it's well worth it considering the time and effort I would spend trying to create my own.

    Lee

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