NO MORE PAGE RANK - Google says.

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Guys, Google seems dumped the PageRank?

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  • Profile picture of the author ozimguru
    oh yeah ...i just read it. This proves that page rank is not an important factor. And we will not be surprised to see if google removes it from toolbar as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by ozimguru View Post

      oh yeah ...i just read it. This proves that page rank is not an important factor.
      If anything, it proves just the opposite.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jayson L
    Talk about a way to confuse spammers. You won't be able to go blog shopping and know which sites are considered the better links. I'm sure they will still have a page rank evaluation, we just won't see it anymore. Smart move for google.
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    *Sigh* They never said "No more page rank".

    They haven't stopped using it.

    They've simply removed it from the webmaster tools bit (and probably soon from the toolbar)

    They are still calculating it, and will still use it along with the other 200 factors that determine a site's position in the SERPs.

    People seemed to think that PR was the be-all-and-end-all. This isn't true.

    That is all Google have said, not that they are going to disband page rank.
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    • Profile picture of the author radhika
      Originally Posted by TristanPerry View Post


      They've simply removed it from the webmaster tools bit (and probably soon from the toolbar)

      They are still calculating it, and will still use it along with the other 200 factors that determine a site's position in the SERPs.

      People seemed to think that PR was the be-all-and-end-all. This isn't true.
      As people are discovering more and more ways to overcome Google criteria, Google is trying to develop new criteria to determine a web site worthiness.

      This could be one of it.

      Yeah ... they soon remove PR bar from toolbar.

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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    I think those who sells links for high PR sites will be out of business soon...
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

      I think those who sells links for high PR sites will be out of business soon...
      Ain't happening Joseph. Theres no way that google is going to value a link from your site as much as a link from CNN or even a respectd article site. PR will never really go away. They might call it something else, tweak it or even hide that they are using it but Google will always have to look at the site that a link is coming from. If not then you will be out of business too (but it can't happen. Its imposible).
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      • Profile picture of the author radhika
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        ... PR will never really go away. They might call it something else, tweak it or even hide that they are using it ...
        It is also a possibility. But because of buying backlinks from other sites, submitting links t Socialmedia netwrk stes, samr article on many article directories etc, Google trying to give less importance to PR.

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      • Profile picture of the author WareTime
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Ain't happening Joseph. Theres no way that google is going to value a link from your site as much as a link from CNN or even a respectd article site. PR will never really go away. They might call it something else, tweak it or even hide that they are using it but Google will always have to look at the site that a link is coming from. If not then you will be out of business too (but it can't happen. Its imposible).
        But, Google did take away definitive way people valued links when comparing a lot of sites. Certainly CNN is better than mytinyniche.com that I built last week. But what about to lesser know sites. One has a pr 4 and one pr 2. Without PR the differences are tougher to quantify for the seller and buyer of the links. This just makes link selling a little muddier.

        It's a good move on their part.
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  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    LOL, funny how this forum is like a game of chinese whispers sometimes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM View Post

      LOL, funny how this forum is like a game of chinese whispers sometimes.

      Hey!! I hear this forum is moving to China.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

        Hey!! I hear this forum is moving to China.
        I heard it was going to stay here, but the display was going to be in Chinese...:p
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  • Profile picture of the author turbohips
    that's cool I can read it and you are all screwed lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    I heard the internet is going bankrupt and you will all be out of business soon
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  • Profile picture of the author vijay08
    Could all this google page rank removal be the true story or something close to April fool.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Guys (and gals)

    Come on lets read better than this. You are just going to end up confusing yourself or newbies. the toolbar HAS NOTHING - ZERO to do with Google's algorythm.

    NOTHING HAS CHANGED. If it did these forums would have already been ablaze with sites that had dropped out of their rankings.

    Google has simply removed the pagerank reference in their toolbar because (they are saying) it over emphasizes one element of Search engine placement. It has ALWAYS been more than pagerank. Relevance Juice has been as important to Google as PR juice for years.
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  • Profile picture of the author RebeccaL
    I always refer people to Google's own opinion of page rank..

    Don't worry. In fact, don't bother thinking about it. We only update the PageRank displayed in Google Toolbar a few times a year; this is our respectful hint for you to worry less about PageRank, which is just one of over 200 signals that can affect how your site is crawled, indexed and ranked. PageRank is an easy metric to focus on, but just because it's easy doesn't mean it's useful for you as a site owner. If you're looking for metrics, we'd encourage you to check out Analytics, think about conversion rates, ROI (return on investment), relevancy, or other metrics that actually correlate to meaningful gains for your website or business.
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  • Profile picture of the author csc4u
    I don't care for the page rank feature in the toolbar. My site has a PR of 10/10 but that silly toolbar always says PR:2 What's up with that ?
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  • Profile picture of the author David Ogden
    I never really bothered about page rank but have concentrated on getting top positions in Google by providing good content
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    • Profile picture of the author Sonomacats
      Originally Posted by David Ogden View Post

      I never really bothered about page rank but have concentrated on getting top positions in Google by providing good content
      You are SO right, David. That's exactly what I do.

      Not to mention, if you simply concentrate on putting up good content, you don't have to spend your time figuring out what Google, Yahoo or anyone else is doing. It's all going to change anyway, so why make yourself crazy trying to figure out the latest algorithm or whatever.

      Concentrate on your niche(es) and putting up good, useful stuff. The rest will take care of itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShopZipCode
    Oh my, Google has removed PR. What's next?
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  • Profile picture of the author projek001
    What???

    So, what they will put to replace pagerank??
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    • Profile picture of the author SEOGuruboy
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      Originally Posted by projek001 View Post

      What???

      So, what they will put to replace pagerank??
      Apparently pagerank will be replaced in Q1 2011 by the number 42!
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  • Profile picture of the author csc4u
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Wow I got to tell you this thread is funny and frustrating at the same time. it really shows that people do more reacting than they do reading. Google removes a couple tools in their toolbar and no matter how much you tell people they still conclude that Google is doing away with pagerank. This despite the fact that nothing has changed in search results. There has been no major shift in rankings. PR is still there and CANNOT be completely removed. Some sites will ALWAYS have more value to Google than others (eg wikipedia, new sites, government and education sites). There will always be authority sites. A 7th grade journalism blog is not going to be ranked higher than CNN for news unless alot of other reputable sites link to it. PERIOD.

    Google merely realized that by having the pagerank in their toolbar they were giving the impression that PR was all that mattered. its never been but its as important to day as it was yesterday. Whats the other important thing - Relevance. That also will never change.
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  • Profile picture of the author toivo
    So in other word, I have a current web site that was penalized because I was offered $140 from a company to put a text link on one of my web sites. Well, after careful consideration (2 or 3 minutes), I too her up on the offer. After I put the link in my site, the page rank of THREE dropped down to zero.
    I was then worried the site wasn't getting found and now find it in the search results as almost #1 on the page for the intended keywords I use....and it is still a PR0.
    So, here is my question: If I have a #5 PAGE RANKED site, should I go ahead and accept paid links on it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Money Maker
    Page rank has nothing to do with keyword ranking.....besides soon enough google is going to charge everyone a flat rate to be on their site....they are in business, why do it for free ...right!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Joshua.E1
      It is a good thing to get rid of it anyway. Page Rank is not that important in the first place. People are so engrossed into the PageRank thing that they forgot that having relevant search results is more important.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Joshua.E1 View Post

        It is a good thing to get rid of it anyway. Page Rank is not that important in the first place. People are so engrossed into the PageRank thing that they forgot that having relevant search results is more important.
        True to an extent but it doesn't have to be either or. Google uses both relevance and other sites "voting" (with a link) for your page. All sites can't be treated the same which is why pagerank is important but not the end all be all of SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Have to correct myself. Google has NOT removed the PR Tool from their Tool bar. They've merely removed it from the webmaster section. Using Google toolbar right now to Find High PR backlinks!.
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    • Profile picture of the author radhika
      Pagerank (whether it is going to exist or not) still plays a role for web sites who sell textlinks and using blogs to make money.

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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    the Popularity contest models always seem to fail to me anyway
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Did anyone actually read the article that this thread is about? Google did not say that they were doing away with the page rank, just that they were not going to display it in some metrics. People are too wrapped up with page rank, and Google understands that and is trying to give you a big hint that it is not as important as people seem to believe. Page rank is just one of 200 items they use in their calculation, and not even an important one at that. So quit being so focused on it.

    The one time that it is important is when you are looking for back links. A link from a PR9 will be much better for your site than a PR0, obviously. But other than that, I wouldn't worry too much about the page rank. And don't worry about the people that sell link lists, they are not going out of business any time soon.
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