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Hey Warriors - sorry this is not about making money, except in the sense that I'm selling a laptop and I need to effectively and permanently erase all files, data, etc. as there is a ton of stuff on there that I wouldn't want to fall "into the wrong hands" - it's not dirty stuff, just personal stuff, banking and other financial info, docs with my passwords, social security, etc.
I'm nervous about a reformat not *really* doing the trick... Help! How do I REALLY make the hard drive as if it's never had data on it? Thanks! David |
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The only way to REALLY remove data from your hard drive is to destroy your hard drive completely.
I know there are programs, however, that can do the job pretty well (they delete the file, then overwrite it, and then delete that, and they keep doing this millions of times in a short amount of time). I wouldn't know of any though. Perhaps you can look in Google for it.
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Doing a Google search I came across this article which may help:
How to Permanently Delete Files - Using Windows Secret Built-In Tool Thanks, Adam |
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I'm not an expert but once heard from one that reformatting a hard drive clears it. I've also heard that deleting your stuff then running the defrag function will get rid of the deleted data too. Again, I don't know if either is accurate. Maybe someone who does will correct me if it isn't.
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Why not format your harddrive!?
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Simply formatting a drive is not sufficient to delete data. Programs like GetDataBack, can recover data from formatted hard drivers.
The best I have seen to completely erase a drive is Darik's Boot And Nuke | Hard Drive Disk Wipe and Data Clearing free program. Or to be the safest, hard drives are quite cheap now adays, remove the old - destroy it, (you can have fun smashing it) and sell your laptop with a brand new hard drive. |
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Formatting won't get rid of your data, it merely conceals it. Someone who is clever enough and patient enough can recover it. If I had a hard drive full of data I wanted destroyed I would take it apart and take a grinder to it.
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Delete everything you want gone.
Use a macro in Microsoft Word (or any other word processor) to create a document that consists of 10,000,000 @ signs. Save it as a text file. Copy and paste it. Copy and paste the two files you now have. Copy and paste the 4 files you now have. Continue until your hard drive is full. Everything you deleted has now been overwritten. |
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Try downloading and burning a demo of something called "Killdisk".
OR buy it, and you can do unlimited runs. |
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I use a large 2x2 inch neodymium magnet with hundreds of pounds of pull to kill it and ruin the data...
Then I use a sledge hammer :-) Of course you would not be able to sell it at that point :-0 But as was mentioned a new hard drive is cheap to buy and replace. |
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It's very very difficult to get rid of all data from a hard drive so that it cannot be recovered. There is a US DOD standard on this subject and it's very demanding. The best free solution that I have come across is Darik's Boot and Nuke, but if it were me I would replace the hard drive.
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i volunteer for a charity one day a week, the charity accepts donations of old PC's from businesses,banks etc. the pc's are then refurbished and sent to africa.
before they are sent to africa the hard drives are completely wiped using DBAN Use dban to wipe a hard drive and there is NO POSSIBLE WAY any data can be recovered from the HD Darik's Boot And Nuke | Hard Drive Disk Wipe and Data Clearing hope this helps |
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you also have to remember that not everyone has the knowledge nor desire to recover your information.
there are good people in the world ;-) if you sell if over the internet, obviously wipe to full extent and even consider replacing the hard drive. but all in all, he best way is eraser. it'll erase enough that it would cost a lot of money in software and equipment to get it back. hope this helps, -Ryan |
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All of these are good but your best bet would be a combination of al these progs, using a bullet and magnet and grinder. Swap out the HD before you do this and you are good to go...
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As a computing expert I must say that the only way that you can erase data that could never be recovered again, but without destroying your hard drive is with a program called active kill disk.
This program allows you to make 35 passes of random data or your drive which can take several hours or days even, depending on the size of your hard drive, but it will ensure that the magnet layer which you had with your data to be suppressed deep enough for anyone to be able to retrieve it. If you cannot find a software, you will find it within a pack that is called Hiren's boot CD. If you are unable to buy this software, the boot CD, you can find it on several torrent sites, and just burn it on any CD. The whole thing has about 80 MB in size. Once he starts active kill disk you will find within it the option that will say "high security, very slow,35 number of passes". Use that option and leave it to do its work. This will ensure that no one will ever find any data on your hard drive, simply because this algorithm is even stronger than what the US Department of Defense uses to wipe their hard drives. I hope this helps, TheGodfather |
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As mentioned by many others in this thread, the surest bet is to: 1. buy a new hard drive for the laptop you want to sell 2. buy an external drive casing for your old disk (now you can use this as an external drive with all your data intact) 3. And tell the buyer that he's getting a brand new hard-disk as a 'bonus' :-) cheers, Adrian | |
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Yeah, I thought that even when you delete it all, the information is still in there somewhere.
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Another vote for kill disk or replace the drive.
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The cops or divorce attorneys WILL find the searches
for "easy ways to dispose of spouse" unless you use a hammer on the hard drive. ![]() LOL David |
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Reformatting does NOT erase the data on the drive. Anyone can make the drive a slave to another drive and then search the contents of the drive via data recovery software.
You also DO NOT have to replace your drive. There is only one way to completely clean a drive and that is do a process called zeroing out. Zeroing out is a low level format of the drive. Essentially it replaces all the binary 1's on the drive with zeros effectively destroying every last bit of recoverable data permanently. Active@ Kill Disk Hard Drive Eraser. Low Level Format. will do the job amiably. Depending on the size of the drive it could take a few hours. |
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1) Delete everything from your hard disk
2) Format all the drives 3) Use Windows Installer and delete all the partitions 4) Reinstall Windows and create new partitions again (do not create same sized or same number of partitions) 5) Connect to internet and fill your hard disk by huge files .. Make sure your hard disk is completely full... Repeat steps 1 & 2... I got this from one of my friends who works in a security firm.. He says it works Cheers, |
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I think there is a standard for this in U.S. military. If I'm not wrong, I remeber the entire HD should write and delete/reformat for 11 times (not sure 11).
There are some software that can do this for you. david |
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Yeah when I was in the military we used data eraser. It scattered the data encrypted then deleted. So even the best hackers would have a very hard time recovering encrypted scattered data. But thats no fun
Thermite is the key!!! Matter of fact might as well do a video of you using thermite on your entire laptop, put it on youtube with affiliate site links and the works. Maybe you could make more money by doing that, than you could by selling it. FUN!!!Eric. |
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Physically destroying the drive is the only way to guarantee it's safe - experts say to break it, then burn it. But Radsoft's E3 shreds disks as well as can be done digitally. Using a Guttmann shred, tt destroys the data on your disk as well as can be done without physically destroying the disk.
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I used to work in the defense industry, and physically destroying was the only acceptable way.
HOWEVER - for lower classification stuff we used Eraser, by Heidi: Eraser . It's free and very easy to use - you might want to have it handy on your new computer as well.. If you want to erase the entire disk, easiest way is to do this:
I hope this helped. Cheers, Brad |
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wow,it seems so difficult after seeing guys upstairs said.Why not directly forcibly format your hard drive.Then I think it's OK.No necessity to make it that complicated.
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I'd take a hammer to it! Your files are sensitive and not worth the risk.
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