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Unread 7th September 2010, 09:36 AM   #1
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I was talking with a friend of mine about what I do online and they pretty much said that I should get a real job. I was telling them about all of the different ways that a person could generate income and they listened and agreed with what I said but then they said you should get a job.

In the meantime my internet connection was lost and then I got it back, but before I lost it I started a new advertising campaign that brought me in $118.00 in revenue while I lost my internet connection for a few days.

Do you get discouraged when people don't believe in you?
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My mom told me... countless times this summer to go get a job...

Eventually I just started showing her my 1k weeks, and that made everything better

People don't believe in the world online, just remember... you'll have the nice car later, will they?

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I was talking with a friend of mine about what I do online and they pretty much said that I should get a real job. I was telling them about all of the different ways that a person could generate income and they listened and agreed with what I said but then they said you should get a job.

In the meantime my internet connection was lost and then I got it back, but before I lost it I started a new advertising campaign that brought me in $118.00 in revenue while I lost my internet connection for a few days.

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I tell folks I am a gun runner.....it just sounds more interesting than the truth.

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They just try to force their belief system(how all is system, if you prefer ) on you
"Greatest attractant of money is immunity to criticism" - Dan Kennedy

I remember how once I was checking out some cars and found one I liked, it was a corvette and it cost something like 25,000$. I showed it to my friend and he said: "Stop dreaming about things like that, get down to earth..."

I was shocked how his mindset was rooted in poverty. It was ~3 years ago and my mindset and beliefs have radically changed, but even back then nothing seemed impossible even if I was labeled a dreamer or just an idiot

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They just try to force their belief system(how all is system, if you prefer ) on you
"Greatest attractant of money is immunity to criticism" - Dan Kennedy

I remember how once I was checking out some cars and found one I liked, it was a corvette and it cost something like 25,000$. I showed it to my friend and he said: "Stop dreaming about things like that, get down to earth..."

I was shocked how his mindset was rooted in poverty. It was ~3 years ago and my mindset and beliefs have radically changed, but even back then nothing seemed impossible even if I was labeled a dreamer or just an idiot

That is so true! I told my other friend that I don't want to be held down by a job that tells me when I can eat, when to be at work, when I can go on vacation, when I can talk, and what to do.

I want to see my friends and family flying on private jets, going to the tropics. And she said " Yeah right like that will ever happen" Its almost like we are being programmed to think poor and accept a normal life.
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Today I thought I would confuse a teacher... So under what is your part-time job... I put "Internet Marketer & Online Businessman + Product Creator and Marketer"... I can't wait till she asks me what the heck I am on about

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People who have a limited view of the possibilites for
their own life will try to project those limitations onto
you.

In other words, people who can't see something as
possible for themselves, tend to think it's not possible
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"Someone's opinion of you does not have to become
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If you believe in yourself, that's all that matters! In fact to succeed in IM, you're really going to have to be your own self-motivator....People will try to get you to buy into their scarcity mentality. Don't do it! It's one of the worst plagues of humanity today!


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Maybe you should get a new set of friends to hang around. Either that or quit casting your pearls to swine. Not saying your friends are pigs but the biblical reference fits. When all your friends have jobs they'll attempt to pigeon hole you into doing the same. Instead hang out with entrepreneurs who value what you're attempting to do.
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I was talking with a friend of mine about what I do online and they pretty much said that I should get a real job. I was telling them about all of the different ways that a person could generate income and they listened and agreed with what I said but then they said you should get a job.

In the meantime my internet connection was lost and then I got it back, but before I lost it I started a new advertising campaign that brought me in $118.00 in revenue while I lost my internet connection for a few days.

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I've been called the "village idiot" more than once (which has nothing to do with your question) but for some reason I've been w/out a "real job" for a loooonnnnng time. Go figure. Do what makes you happy, sir.

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If you can't change your friends then change your friends!

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Don't be discouraged by those people who says that you can't do it. Let their discouragements serve as an inspiration for you to keep on moving and pursuing what you believe in.

If you really want to get rich, don't get a job. Create your own business. You'll never get rich working for your boss, you'll only make him richer.

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I'm often asked by people if I've got a job yet. Yes I do, and I've had it for the past two years thanks...

When they say it, I tend to just say I like what I'm doing now and it is a job. Actually, I often tell them it's my own business to keep them quiet which it is of course!

I do get discouraged sometimes, I'm sure many of us have moments where we question things due to outside pressure. But at the end of the day, most of the people I know are into the mindset of going to school/ college/ university then climbing the 9-5 career ladder. I was in that mindset too until I realised my degree means nothing and here I am - in the end I know what I am doing is 100% right for me.

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Those are going to be the same friends that when you are very successful wanting you to teach them how its done.

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Get used to it...

I have been working 100% online since March of 2005, and my mother-in-law continues to nag me about how I need to get a "real job" to support my family...

Even members of my own family have suggested the same... Including my wife, who knows how much I really make and spends those profits regularly... LOL

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I was talking with a friend of mine about what I do online and they pretty much said that I should get a real job. I was telling them about all of the different ways that a person could generate income and they listened and agreed with what I said but then they said you should get a job.

In the meantime my internet connection was lost and then I got it back, but before I lost it I started a new advertising campaign that brought me in $118.00 in revenue while I lost my internet connection for a few days.

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only YOU need to believe in yourself, forget what others think. If you are driven and want to make it happen, then no one can stop you. Being realistic is also a good thing, if you are starving while doing IM, then get a part time job and keep doing IM.

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If I really cared about what my home town friends thought of me, I guess I'd have as boring a life as they do.
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It doesn't matter what other people think...it's what you think.

If you think you will succeed or if you think you will fail, you would be correct on both counts. It is what you think.

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Maybe you should get a new set of friends to hang around. Either that or quit casting your pearls to swine. Not saying your friends are pigs but the biblical reference fits. When all your friends have jobs they'll attempt to pigeon hole you into doing the same. Instead hang out with entrepreneurs who value what you're attempting to do.
I think this is one of the best advices you can follow, there is and old Spanish saying that goes "Those who walk with wolves learn to howl" meaning that part of your reality is the type of people you hang around with, if you just hang around with employees, they will never understand anything about the things you are talking about, if you start talking to entrepreneurs, they wont be just listening to you, but sharing their experiences in how they create more wealth and freedom, and they will explain you better ways to do things, I am part of a mastermind with a lot of very successful entrepreneurs and I can tell you that has changed my life forever, do the same please.

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I remember how once I was checking out some cars and found one I liked, it was a corvette and it cost something like 25,000$. I showed it to my friend and he said: "Stop dreaming about things like that, get down to earth..."
That reminds me of a friend of mine from college. After he graduated, he took a job as a waiter at an upscale country club "while he looked for a real job"...

At one point, he wanted a new car and picked out one that was fairly high priced. As they were starting the paperwork, the salesman asked my friend what he did. My friend answered, honestly, that he was a waiter.

The salesman tore up the paperwork, got a disgusted look on his face, and growled at my friend for wasting his time, as no mere waiter was going to qualify for financing. We left...

My buddy went back a couple of hours later and asked to see the owner or GM. He talked to the owner. Told him he'd been in earlier and tried to buy a car. The owner asked what happened. G. explained the scenario from earlier, and added, "would one of the other salespeople help him with the paperwork for buying the car? If I can't finance it, can I pay in cash?"

The owner did the paperwork himself, and G. drove the car home.

What the salesman didn't bother to find out was that G. worked in one of the most exclusive fine-dining joints in town, and that it wasn't all that uncommon to make four figures in tips during a shift - and this was back in the late 1970's.

To the OP - don't worry about the critics. Just smile and say that maybe they are right, then go buy yourself something nice...

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More likely, a bunch will just want to join the entourage...

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Quick story about one of my experiences.

I was really excited about IM when I started. Almost everyone except my Dad and one of my brothers thought that I was nuts. At that time I told a lot of people what I was doing. Then I started to make a little bit of money. The scoffers still laughed but I peaked a few peoples interest.

Now I make more than enough money to pay my bills. I decided to go back to school about 2 years ago. So during school I spend almost no time online, and still make a decent living.

Now, some of those scoffers ask me how I do it. They seem to think that there is a big secret, and once you know the secret there is no more work to be done.

Back in May I was researching ways to diversify. I tried a couple things that didn't work out. Then I decided to do some Clickbank campaigns. I read quite a bit about it. Just before I started I was visiting one of the scoffers. I thought that this person had changed. They sincerely asked me to show them how to make money online. I decided to show them my latest project.

When I was finished they said it sounded like a good idea. However, they wanted a surefire way to make money online if they were going to invest their time into it. Basically they said that they would be happy to copy my main income maker. But they were not going to put their time into something that I didn't know if it would work or not. I said I did know that it would work because Clickbank has paid out over a billion dollars in commissions. Someone was making that money. It wasn't enough to get them to take action.

Well right after that I spent an entire week setting up my campaign. I didn't make much at all the first little while. But then it started to pick up steam. I tweaked my campaigns and currently they are consistently making me a few hundred dollars a week. I know that many of you make much more than that. But to me the time that I put into it, and the fact that I am banking a couple of grand a month seems to be well worth it.

Well a couple of weeks ago I was talking to someone else about CB and the same scoffer overheard me saying what I was making. After a few days they called to ask me if I could show them what I do. I reminded them that I already had showed them the entire process. They explained that they had been busy and forgotten everything that I had showed them.

Many people would like to make money online. Either to supplement or replace their income. But few people are actually willing to do the work. In fact that is a good thing. Because if it was too easy, we would be out of a job.

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Whenever you try to achieve something out of the ordinary people will doubt you, some people think their helping you by managing your expectations but in reality they are hurting your potential when they say it's "not realistic or possible". Limit your contact with people who are dream killers and surround yourself with people that are doing the same thing you are (like this whole forum) and others who have already achieved what you're working towards.

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I think people are almost jealous that you decided to break from the norm (a 9 to 5 job) and do your own thing.

Also, a few people have mentioned that it's almost like we're programmed to think small and stay poor, we're not programmed, we're told that every single day.

The big guys want the small guys to stay small.

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I think it's quite funny! Because as soon as you start making money! They want to know how you did it? When they do this, tell them, they need to get a real job! Karma is a Bi*ch!

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It's been my experience that whenever anyone wants to achieve something above average, people don't believe in them.

Whether it's getting in shape, making more money or whatever. If you want to go for something most people fail to achieve, people tend to want to pull you down.

If you keep doing and "failing forward", any doubt you have yourself disappears and those "get a job" type voices become meaningless.

I'm a slow learner, but it still works out.
Most people I know have only failed a few times in their lives and they have a steady job.

I've failed a billion times at a thousand things, but in the course of it all I've had more successes than most people experience in a lifetime.

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If I'd have gotten discouraged every time someone looked at me like I was nuts, I wouldn't be sitting in a hundred-year old farmhouse, looking out a window overlooking a gorgeous 280-acre pasture, and oak and pine forest for as far as my eyes can see.

Don't get discouraged...just know that you'll come up against jealousy and you just need to let it roll off your back.

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You will get there mate. Hey - IM has such potential but it takes a while to get there. Keep plugging away just don't live beyond yoru budget. And don't keep buying products - unless they are for a specific reason.

And don't get conned by the 'gurus'. Stick with the 'low bull****' forums -like this one.

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I posted a thread earlier today asking for a website critique, all the critiquing reminded me just how much I still have to learn, and here i was thinking I was all that because I know quite a bit about this kind of stuff.

Fortunately, I'm in a safe place, where my screw-ups don't make ME a screw-up. I'd much rather be raked over the coals by people with the attitude of 'Stick to it, fix it, and you'll be fine' than have my hands kissed by those who don't know **** about anything but having a job.

I've had an entrepreneurial spirit for years, but it's starting to get the better of me now. It HAS to work. What other people think of me, personally, isn't even part of the equation.

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I'm sorry I disagree with this kind of mindset.

Yes, everyone always tells me to get a job because they just don't get it.

However, true friends will let you be who you are, without meddling. My true friends are like that. I'm not going to stop hanging out with my lifelong friends just because they aren't internet entrepreneurs.

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Its interesting because, I spent 18+ years working hard and going to school. Now that I'm focusing on something different for a about a year, people try to make me feel like a bum off of the street.
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Obviously I am saying this in general, not directly at you OP. But screw those who don't believe in you. Just believe in your damn self. Never let anyone tell you that you can't do something. Discouraged? No way. More like encouraged. It's just satisfying when I prove them wrong.
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I'm one of the guys who controls what you find online...and get paid to do it

I'm stealing that one :-)

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All a question of mindset.

I think Will Smith sums this up brilliantly in the film 'The Pursuit of Happyness' when he tells his son never let anyone steal his dream.

"If you want something. Go after it. Period."

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In August of this year, 6.2 million people had been unemployed for six months or more. These are, for the most part, people who have bought into the "get a real job" mindset. Not working out too well for those folks.

8.5 million people are self-employed. These are people who aren't waiting to find a "real job".

Yes, as another poster noted, business is business, and friends are friends. But someone who does not believe in me and support my dreams is not my friend. At least not a good one. Perhaps in the "acquaintance" category.

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If I'd have gotten discouraged every time someone looked at me like I was nuts, I wouldn't be sitting in a hundred-year old farmhouse, looking out a window overlooking a gorgeous 280-acre pasture, and oak and pine forest for as far as my eyes can see.

Don't get discouraged...just know that you'll come up against jealousy and you just need to let it roll off your back.

Sounds amazing. What part of the country are you located in?

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I'm the opposite. I actually have a real job but I'm doing IM on the side so that I can eventually quit my real job :-)
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I think it's quite funny! Because as soon as you start making money! They want to know how you did it? When they do this, tell them, they need to get a real job! Karma is a Bi*ch!
I must say I have little patience and respect for most people. They will watch you die. What I need cancer for you to help me?
They don't think you know what your talking about until they see materials things, then I think to myself, "what I need you for"? [insert explicits]

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Do not try to explain anything to anyone!Trust me, they would never understand you!Even people who use the internet daily and are experienced in this section!I did that mistake in the beginning.Where i told everybody what i was doing!No one believed i could make it.So i stopped telling them stuff!Do the same!

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That's a good one, I like that! I don't think anyone would believe me but oh well, that's their problem.

I do find it difficult to explain to people what I do online, even my husband tells me to go get a 'real job'. It's very frustrating, but I guess unless you are doing it you probably just don't understand it. I think if I wasn't doing IM and someone else told me about it I'd probably think they were dreaming!

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Do you guys all really go as in depth into your IM'ing career as it sounds? I try to stay away from any talk of my career as much as I can, but if someone wants to know, I tell them I am a marketer. If they ask me who I work for, I just say I'm a self employed marketer and say it's hard to explain. If they continue to bug me, I'll tell them that I do internet marketing and that I run my own online business.

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This has been a phenomenal read. I'm usually a lurker but I wanted to thank those that have shared.
I have no success stories, nor do I have words of wisdom, except this:
In my experience so far, I have had to make everything happen that I want to happen, and anything that has not happened is because I have failed to make it happen.
What most lack is personal accountability and taking responsibility for doing the "work" to make some of this happen.
I am new to online business ventures, but have been wanting to work for myself for a long time.
I do not care WHO you work for or what you do. That company is NOT THERE to make you wealthy. They are there to make themselves wealthy. Realize this, and then get out as soon as possible.
As for me? I have started a couple new online endeavors, and have a couple friends who are willing (MORE than willing) to help me out for a pittance of what I will be getting by having them employed.
My buttocks are no longer firmly glued to someone elses chair. This will be my year (well, my 3 months anyway; NEXT year will be my year!). Thanks for the inspiration and best of luck to you all! WF is great reading so far
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That is so true! I told my other friend that I don't want to be held down by a job that tells me when I can eat, when to be at work, when I can go on vacation, when I can talk, and what to do.

I want to see my friends and family flying on private jets, going to the tropics. And she said " Yeah right like that will ever happen" Its almost like we are being programmed to think poor and accept a normal life.
Believe it or not all of the worlds societies for the most part are being shaped and influenced to fit into a certain mold.

College is the breeding grounds for corporations and a new type of human slavery where your freedoms are taken away and locked into how a certain corporation says you have to operate.

Most all people believe you have to go to college and then get a job at a corporation or large company of somekind to be highly successful. Its not their fault really they were programmed that way. It starts the first time you go to public school, you are taught to conform. (by the way, I believe college is a great place to learn and if you can do it do it)

I am not promoting rebellion for sure, but I am talking about not being confind to the "status quo".

You can go "where" and "as far" as your believing takes you, as long as it's not fantasy land.

Its this freedom to believe and operate outside the box that we are robbed of from the very starting point of our lives that holds us back, it keeps many, many people in a state of mind that they cannot succeed and therefore are stuck in poverty or at least living way beneath their true potential.

We have inherent in ourselves a yearning for true freedom and can have it if we believe, but its taught out of us by the systems of the world......

Freedom begins in the mind. A person who is locked up in a real prison can be more free than a person who is on the outside if they have the right mental mindset.

Sure they may be behind real steal bars, but whats worse is for a person who is not in a real prison/jail but who is chained and locked in their mind by bars that are made up of their own wrong thinking patterns and their own lack of believing caused by all the fear, doubt and worry and limited vision that is pressured, forced, built and placed on them from a young child.

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"Business is business, friends are friends..."

If your friends are sabotaging you, are they really your friends?

I agree with the mindset that if you want to live a certain type of life, start hanging around with people who live that kind of life. They think differently. They respond differently to situations and decisions that come up. They approach things from a different angle than the way you normally do it. Break out of your circle of friends - AKA your circle of INFLUENCE... and find folks who influence and inspire you, that you can emulate.

Your true friends will still be there for you. Your fair-weather friends won't. You'll be better for finding out who's who, and you'll be surrounded by people who will encourage you and inspire you to move forward.
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Internet Marketing surprises the crap out of people once they find out u do it and u do it successfully....especially women, omg

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"Being realistic is the most commonly travelled road to mediocrity. Why would you be realistic? [...]
It's unrealistic to walk in a room and flip a switch and lights come on. That's unrealistic.
Fortunately, Edison didn't think so."


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Hahahahaaa.....
Every IM feels the same problem.Even my mom didn't know what I am really doing online.
She thinks that I am just doing something wrong stuff like hacking bank accounts or something else like that.
To all people who are working online,Don't feel any kind of Criticism just ignore what people are saying about you.
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I used to get discouraged but then I realized that
proving people wrong is one of the greatest
motivators

Improve your knowledge and mindset daily and you will
realize those people who discourage you are behind
the curve and are really just hiding their own
insecurities.

What some business people do is they create a team or
a mastermind group and create this 'us against the
world' take-action siege mentality. It drives you to
move forward everyday and creates great businesses.

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