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WPMAGE -- I'm About To Go ApeSh$t!

by templarjustice
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[Moderator note: If you start reading this, please read at least to post 27. This is a perfect example of one of the reasons this sort of thread is normally deleted on sight.]


Okay, it's 1:05 AM EST NY time. If anyone working, doing any business right now, or even on this forum, please check if I'm going crazy or not.
Is this site down: wpmage.com ???

Right now, I'm more than heated. I got clients contacting me regarding this plugin, as there ENTIRE sites they built went down. And there's absolutely nothing I can do about it personally, as I only assisted in the installation. But from the looks of it, WPMage has been down for over 6 hours!

And after doing some research on this issue, going through a whole deactivating OTHER wordpress plugins to diagnose the issue, I found the following problems:
1. As a plugin, if WPMAGE has a problem, it totally destroys all the posts it created. So, if you have traffic going to your site, & are generating revenues, you have just been wiped clean.

2. As a company, if WPMage goes down, you are screwed. It's like saying Google shut down all it's services.

3. If the plugin goes down, it disables the AJAX, and other plugin compatibilities, making your site go slower, & makes you have to re-login over & over again. If you have OIOPublisher for your Ad Units, it essentially wipes out your database tables.

After looking online, it seems that no one really knows this yet. I only know right now, given the fact that a few of my past clients mentioned this & I researched the problem. However, I can't provide support as a service.

It has got me to realize about Paid Plugins, and what I've been seeing as a trend lately. A lot of people are trying to go the "Premium WP plugin" route, however, these owners are NOT providing service or any support for continually updating their plugin. As fast as the core Wordpress platform is being developed, the developers need to commit to updating their plugins or at least clarifying in DETAIL whether it is compatible with the latest version of Wordpress.

As I will tell you right now, ANY plugin that is not updated past July 15th, 2010 in the depository IS OBSOLETE and YOU will have vulnerabilities if you have any plugin that is less than that.

I'm so pissed right now, I just don't know what to do.

I think a lot of people will get a major surprise in the morning if things stay the way they are.
#apesh$t #greg jacobs #wpmage
  • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
    Verified...that address does not work.

    But Mage has been up for a while as a product and it is strange that there is no cached version.

    CT
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    • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
      Originally Posted by Charles Harper View Post

      Verified...that address does not work.

      But Mage has been up for a while as a product and it is strange that there is no cached version.

      CT

      Yes, I just noticed the cache as well. This is a much bigger issue than I thought now. That means the ENTIRE sites files are 100% gone.

      And ANYONE who has purchased this product absolutely has:
      1. All of their sites destroyed.
      2. No functioning mage plugins.
      3. Potential corruption of their other plugins.

      I mean, seriously, what I said before holds true. This screwballs slinging around paid so-called premium plugins, and NOT providing service, communicating with their customers, it's a shame.

      I had recently read on some idiots blog about how "IT's time for paid premium plugins." I 100% disagree. #1 reason, is that there is this kind of crap going on every day. Open source is more stable than ever, & people are screwing things up with stuff like this issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vlad Shelest
    Relax, you're not insane. Site is down for me too (in Sydney, AU).

    Lucky for me though, I have nothing to do with it. Good luck with everything, doesn't sound great though, I must say.

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  • Profile picture of the author Vincenzo Oliva
    The site is dead as a door knob. That's what happens when you put all your chips in 1 basket. If you ask me wpmage and epic traffic system are both scams.
    These gurus teaching you how to throw your money away creating hundreds of worthless backlinks. Read about the site with 3 million backlinks dropped down to PR0.

    I get 1 pr7 backlink and I'll kick your ass with your 500mu's.
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    • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
      Originally Posted by Vincenzo Oliva View Post

      The site is dead as a door knob. That's what happens when you put all your chips in 1 basket. If you ask me wpmage and epic traffic system are both scams.
      These gurus teaching you how to throw your money away creating hundreds of worthless backlinks. Read about the site with 3 million backlinks dropped down to PR0.

      I get 1 pr7 backlink and I'll kick your ass with your 500mu's.

      You have an interesting statement when you said, "putting all chips in 1 basket". Not 100% sure if I'm correct on your thinking, but it got me thinking to a major issue in this industry.

      That issue is:
      1. Everyone is teaching NOT to do MULTIPLE traffic methods, but to focus on 1 Method.
      Whereas, all mage was is "technically" a traffic method.

      So, people are up against focusing and putting efforts into "A" traffic method or a "FEW" methods. (Few meaning the multiple methods that make up that method). And mage was a multitude of methods.

      Now, this seriously should piss off people, because now you have just lost everything, and are down to starting all over from scratch, trying to find new methods, etc. etc.

      But just made me think on that part about "chips in 1 basket".
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      • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
        Unless I missed it, nobody has mentioned attempting to contact Greg Jacobs about this. He's showing online here right now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
        Originally Posted by templarjustice View Post

        You have an interesting statement when you said, "putting all chips in 1 basket". Not 100% sure if I'm correct on your thinking, but it got me thinking to a major issue in this industry.

        That issue is:
        1. Everyone is teaching NOT to do MULTIPLE traffic methods, but to focus on 1 Method.
        Whereas, all mage was is "technically" a traffic method.

        So, people are up against focusing and putting efforts into "A" traffic method or a "FEW" methods. (Few meaning the multiple methods that make up that method). And mage was a multitude of methods.

        Now, this seriously should piss off people, because now you have just lost everything, and are down to starting all over from scratch, trying to find new methods, etc. etc.

        But just made me think on that part about "chips in 1 basket".
        I am in Autoblog Blueprint with Mike Johnson, and he stays up on stuff. I will check the forum over there.

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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      Originally Posted by Vincenzo Oliva View Post

      I get 1 pr7 backlink and I'll kick your ass with your 500mu's.
      I get 1 pr10 backlink and I'll kick your ass with your pr7 backlink.

      Just sayin'
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      • Profile picture of the author ultratechinc
        All my sites seem to be fine also! 160+
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    Oh My God!....how horrible! I have a lot of WP Mage sites out there. I hope this gets resolved quickly.

    Greg Jacobs just had a huge new product launch and it seems like all his focus might be there now....not WP Mage(that would be sad). WP Mage probably has taken a back seat and that would be a shame when so many people pay $1200 for a product and this sort of thing happens...breaks the trust if damage control isn't handled immediately
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    • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
      Originally Posted by Paul Barrs View Post

      Ouch. Guys, that hurts.

      Such as it is that these days we can longer be independent - nor can we afford not to be.

      I don't think I use any of these plugins you've mentioned, but what about your back ups - don't you have your bog to auto back up EVERY DAY?

      That way, when it's all back online, you can just re-install your databases and you're sweet.

      Oh god, I hope that's the way it's supposed to work, otherwise I collect daily backup for nothing.

      Paul

      .

      With wordpress, not a lot of people know this, but there is a specific & direct & proper way to "OFFICIALLY" back up your blog.

      There is a difference between:
      1. Backup of Blog posts
      2. Backup of Database
      3. Backup of the core.

      If you are backing up all the layers, you aren't really backing up anything.
      I'd advise having an EXPERT from your hosting company to OFFICIALLY set up a routine backup of everything, whereas, backing up is not really what it seems.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
    HAha, calm down people
    1 - Hard Drive Crashed. we are working on it
    2 - If if our entire site went KAPUT, all your sites still work fine. The functions of your sites and plugins has nothing to do with whether our server is up or not

    now quit complaining and get back to work, I know I am as I got a server to recover.
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    • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
      Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

      HAha, calm down people
      1 - Hard Drive Crashed. we are working on it
      2 - If if our entire site went KAPUT, all your sites still work fine. The functions of your sites and plugins has nothing to do with whether our server is up or not

      now quit complaining and get back to work, I know I am as I got a server to recover.

      Greg, I'd advise you to do a personal CHECK YOURSELF!
      Check what is happening when you login in to Wordpress & your Dashboard is loading slow.
      Check when you are being re-directed to logins over & over again.
      Check whether if your plugins go down, that it disables other plugins.
      Check whether if your AJAX dropdowns in Wordpress are working.
      Even if you Deactivate the plugins, you end up with non-stable posts, specifically with Affmage.

      So, the only logical conclusion is that it DOES have something to do with your plugins & the combination of YOUR server. Whereas, your server is down, and I guess by chance the plugins are not functioning properly? C'mon!
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
        Originally Posted by templarjustice View Post

        Greg, I'd advise you to do a personal CHECK YOURSELF!
        Check what is happening when you login in to Wordpress & your Dashboard is loading slow.
        Check when you are being re-directed to logins over & over again.
        Check whether if your plugins go down, that it disables other plugins.
        Check whether if your AJAX dropdowns in Wordpress are working.
        Even if you Deactivate the plugins, you end up with non-stable posts, specifically with Affmage.

        So, the only logical conclusion is that it DOES have something to do with your plugins & the combination of YOUR server. Whereas, your server is down, and I guess by chance the plugins are not functioning properly? C'mon!
        All sites are fine. If you are a CUSTOMER of mine and need tech support, you can contact me via PM.

        If you need an emotional outlet and something to complain about, please pick on another product, pet or significant other.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    Yep...my sites are having issues. I just checked the Auto Blog Blueprint Forum but didn't see anything posted yet. Guess I'll check back with this thread in a few hours to see whats going on. I'm sure it will get resolved
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    • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
      Originally Posted by sparkie2260 View Post

      I just checked the Auto Blog Blueprint Forum but didn't see anything posted as of yet. Guess I'll check back with this thread in a few hours to see whats going on
      IT is 2:30 am in the morning in the U.S.
      Only the crazies are up right now like me!

      Non-stop work & loving it.

      But I get heated when someone says "quit complaining", when this is a huge issue -- and there is something fundamentally wrong with peoples sites.

      Unless you have an eye for it, or are actually actively checking, you won't even know. And that's part of the problem.
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
        Originally Posted by templarjustice View Post

        IT is 2:30 am in the morning in the U.S.
        Only the crazies are up right now like me!

        Non-stop work & loving it.

        But I get heated when someone says "quit complaining", when this is a huge issue -- and there is something fundamentally wrong with peoples sites.

        Unless you have an eye for it, or are actually actively checking, you won't even know. And that's part of the problem.
        IF YOU ARE A CUSTOMER OF MINE AND NEED TECH SUPPORT, YOU CAN PM

        If you are not my customer, then you can have no idea what is happening or not happening and just getting caught up in late night forum drama.

        If you are a customer and there is trouble with your sites, this may be true, but is likely to have nothing to do with this issue as your sites and our server are not connected. Not sure how many times I can say this
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        • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
          Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

          IF YOU ARE A CUSTOMER OF MINE AND NEED TECH SUPPORT, YOU CAN PM

          If you are not my customer, then you can have no idea what is happening or not happening and just getting caught up in late night forum drama.

          If you are a customer and there is trouble with your sites, this may be true, but is likely to have nothing to do with this issue as your sites and our server are not connected. Not sure how many times I can say this
          I will have my clients contact you directly in regards to the issues I found.
          I'd be happy to verify what I'm telling you is accurate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
    Full details are massive HDD failure, we recovered the DB;s and are rebuilding right now. Both The Assassination and WPMAGE is down. We expect fullish recovery in 24 hours. Your Mage sites are not effected in ANY WAY by this.

    Please pass on the info to other members as I have no way to email the customers at this point.

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  • Profile picture of the author Shane Dolby
    All my sites work fine so if you are having issue it has nothing to do with wpmage being down
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    After reading through this entire thread, it's painfully obvious that many of the statements made are inflammatory and patently false. This kind of stuff has to stop.
    As I will tell you right now, ANY plugin that is not updated past July 15th, 2010 in the depository IS OBSOLETE and YOU will have vulnerabilities if you have any plugin that is less than that
    Total B.S. The vast majority of plugins don't take advantage of the latest and greatest features of WP. If the plugin's functionality isn't affected by WP version change, the only reason to update is to get the "compatible up to" line up to the latest version. Many developers don't go in and update the one line in the readme file that handles this. Doesn't mean that the plugin is obsolete.
    With wordpress, not a lot of people know this, but there is a specific & direct & proper way to "OFFICIALLY" back up your blog.

    There is a difference between:
    1. Backup of Blog posts
    2. Backup of Database
    3. Backup of the core.

    If you are backing up all the layers, you aren't really backing up anything.
    I'd advise having an EXPERT from your hosting company to OFFICIALLY set up a routine backup of everything, whereas, backing up is not really what it seems.
    I don't know if I qualify as one of a lot of people who don't know this, but backing up a WP is very simple and doesn't take an expert. Back up wp-content folder and the database, and you have everything that a WP site is. No need to back up core files. Just get new ones.
    And ANYONE who has purchased this product absolutely has:
    1. All of their sites destroyed.
    2. No functioning mage plugins.
    3. Potential corruption of their other plugins.
    I find it very difficult to believe that a reputable person would code a plugin that would wipe a database, which is the only way to "destroy" a WP site. I don't know Greg personally, but he does have a reputation of providing decent products.
    I mean, seriously, what I said before holds true. This screwballs slinging around paid so-called premium plugins, and NOT providing service, communicating with their customers, it's a shame.
    You need to get a grip before you sling around any more crap you can be sued over. This is, after all, a public forum, and you're making statements that you can't back up.
    I had recently read on some idiots blog about how "IT's time for paid premium plugins." I 100% disagree. #1 reason, is that there is this kind of crap going on every day. Open source is more stable than ever, & people are screwing things up with stuff like this issue.
    You can, of course, disagree all you want. But, "...screwing things up"? What in the world are you talking about? There are plenty of premium themes and plugins that do what they're supposed to do. Personally, if I spent countless hours on a plugin that helped a marketer make more money, you're damned right I'd charge for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JGK
    Greg
    Any update? Are you back up fully?
    Is WP mage closed forever?
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      Originally Posted by JGK View Post

      Greg
      Any update? Are you back up fully?
      Is WP mage closed forever?
      JK
      Closed forever? No... not at all.

      we expect in about 24 hours from now max to have full restore.
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      • Profile picture of the author kymom
        Just an FYI.

        I have approximately 300 Mage sites. Yesterday was a good earnings day. My sites were not affected at all.

        Thanks for the updates Greg.

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      • Profile picture of the author JGK
        Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

        Closed forever? No... not at all.
        LOL.....No I know you are getting back up ......so are not closed forever!!!

        I meant I have been waiting for the re-release of WPMAge and wonder if it will go on sale again?

        JK
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        • Profile picture of the author kevinm777
          My Mage sites have not been affected either
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        • Profile picture of the author Realstrategic
          Originally Posted by JGK View Post

          LOL.....No I know you are getting back up ......so are not closed forever!!!

          I meant I have been waiting for the re-release of WPMAge and wonder if it will go on sale again?

          JK
          Yeah.. I'd like to know how to buy it. I like the way the developer handled the Panic Attacked Unprofessional Nut that started this post.

          Greg, send me a link or post where we can get WP Mage Be specific.. I like your style mate!
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