New members: Read This

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The fact that you're new doesn't mean you don't know a lot about marketing. It may suggest that you don't know how things are done here. Take this as friendly advice, intended to help you avoid the most common mistakes.

1. Do not use affiliate links in your signature file.

2. Post in the appropriate section of the board. Questions about SEO or posts asking for advice on specific products belong in other areas. Not Main Discussion. Post them here and they're more likely to be deleted than moved.

3. Use subject lines that indicate something specific about your question. Subjects like "Heeelllp!" or "I'm annoyed" are pointless and waste people's time. They also usually fail to get the attention of the folks most well-equipped to give you useful answers.

4. Do not post complaining about specific people, guru or newbie. We're not the Internet police and we can't do anything about it. And we don't have a clue if the complaint is even valid. Most of them turn out not to be. So, the claim that you're just trying to "alert our fellow Warriors to this problem" most often means nothing. Even when that's your sincere intent, which isn't usually the case.

5. If your thread is deleted, do not re-post it. Do not post a thread asking why it was deleted. Read the rules, watch how things are done here, and figure it out. This is not complicated stuff.

6. Remember that threads get deleted for lots of reasons, most of them having no reflection on the original poster. They can be nuked because they're the umpteenth copy of the same discussion in a short period, because they're on topics which too often degenerate into flame wars, because they have nothing to do with making money, because they're pointless, because they tend to drift into bashing, and lots of other reasons.

7. Don't assume anything when you see the word "Banned" under a user's name, other than that the account has been blocked from posting for some period. "Banned" does not always (or even usually) mean anything bad about the person.

8. If your sig file is a bunch of keyword phrases with links on them, don't be surprised if it's deleted. If that happens, don't just re-insert the same sort of thing. Especially if there's no way for us to know the domain belongs to you.

You are not allowed to link to other people's sites that way from this forum. If you get caught doing it, you're likely to be permanently banned.

9. Read the stickies at the top of this section, and make sure you understand them.

10. Don't be surprised if something is deleted and you're not told why. This place is too big. It would take more time than there is in a day for us to notify every person of the reason, every time we deleted a post or thread. And that doesn't begin to count the time that would be wasted arguing with people who don't understand or refuse to accept the rules.

Deleting posts is not a personal thing. Don't make it one.

11. Count on your posts being deleted if you make a lot of one-liners early on. We know what that's about, and we're as likely to delete you as your posts if you push it.

12. Use some common sense.


Paul

PS: If you're in a rough situation, read this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html
#main internet marketing discussion forum #members #read
  • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
    A-freakin-men.

    Thank you Paul Myers, Thanks you!

    (wait, does that count as a "one liner"???)

    Rob

    Edit: Read the "stupid forum tricks" - Whoops...never thought about #10! LOL
  • Profile picture of the author newtoebookswriting
    i am new. thanx for the info
  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Oh yeah... Read this, too:

    Stupid Forum Tricks
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    LOL...How did i miss that thread??? Stupid Forum Tricks

    Paul, Thanks for this post.

    I was asked if it was alright to post a link to a site where the persons product was
    located like ClickBank or PayDotCom and I told them No. Was I right?

    The rules say it must be a Site You Own.

    Thanks,
    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Michael,
      I was asked if it was alright to post a link to a site where the persons product was located like ClickBank or PayDotCom and I told them No. Was I right?
      You were right. The sales copy is not on Clickbank or PayDotCom. If they're pointing to those sites directly, they're likely going to an affiliate link.


      Paul
  • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

    Use subject lines that indicate something specific about your question. Subjects like "Heeelllp!" or "I'm annoyed" are pointless and waste people's time. They also usually fail to get the attention of the folks most well-equipped to give you useful answers.
    That one is a big favorite of mine. I tend to move a little quickly and if a topic title doesn't give a clear indication what it is about, there is only a small chance I'll spend any time checking.
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Hi Paul,
    I should have stated that they were doing it through their own affiliate links.
    Some CB members use affiliate links to gauge their veiws/sales while testing.
    I believe I've also done that in the past although I have never done that here on the WF.

    Honestly, It's been quite a while since I've promoted a product I've created
    on CB or PDC so I'm a little fuzzy on the topic.

    It's kinda the reason I asked.
    Hope that makes sense?

    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
  • Profile picture of the author dwatkins
    I just created my signature file and now I am worried that I've done it wrong. I'm linking to my resume site and to my PLR sales site. Is this ok? If not, I'll change it immediately.
    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      I just created my signature file and now I am worried that I've done it wrong. I'm linking to my resume site and to my PLR sales site. Is this ok? If not, I'll change it immediately.
      No problem with that one. Those are sensible descriptions that would be used by normal people with no idea what keyword-based backlinking was all about.


      Paul
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    May I humbly suggest...

    14. Yes, the War Room is awesome. Join it. Don't ask if it's worth joining - it is. Plus, there are all kinds of posts on it already. Join.

    15. If you are linking to a WSO in your signature, or will be running a WSO soon, then almost any question you ask about WSOs will draw negative attention. There are some rare exceptions. Other than that, we have all seen it before, we know what you're up, and we have no problem reporting such posts.

    All the best,
    Michael

    p.s. Oh, and OpenOffice makes it really easy to make PDFs.
  • Profile picture of the author I.M.Retired
    Many new members think it is a good idea to copy and paste entire blocks of content from other websites. These posts do get nuked. However, can some one point me where it tells newbies that this practice is not acceptable?
    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Paul, this is such a great thread.

      So what happens when it falls off of page 1?

      Nobody sees it anymore.

      I know we already have a ton of stickies but maybe this one can be included
      or incorporated into one of the existing ones with a modified thread title
      so that new people will hopefully read this.

      It's just a suggestion because I want those who need to see this to see it
      and get the most benefit from it.

      Thank you for considering my suggestion.

      PS - I have nothing to add...You covered it all.
  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Package this thread up, call it "Warrior Forum Mob Assassination on Crack," and then offer it for $7 in the WSO forum. That way at least some of the new folks will see it and read it.

    Cheers,
    Becky
    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      Package this thread up, call it "Warrior Forum Mob Assassination on Crack," and then offer it for $7 in the WSO forum. That way at least some of the new folks will see it and read it.
      Well Becky, we could just do the occasional 'ethical bump' with this thread.

      Unfortunately, it will be so filled with "Thanks for sharing that" one liners by the time a few bumps happen it will have taken on a new flavor.

      Any chance I can get a review copy of that WSO while we're on the subject?

      ~Bill
    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      Package this thread up, call it "Warrior Forum Mob Assassination on Crack," and then offer it for $7 in the WSO forum. That way at least some of the new folks will see it and read it.

      Cheers,
      Becky
      If you add "You'll make a gazillion dollars overnight" to that title then the views would sky-rocket.
  • Profile picture of the author earthshaker
    Thanks for the heads up Paul.
    • Profile picture of the author Vogin
      Oh yeah, some of my stuff got deleted and I moved on, you can hardly argue with someone who owns your playground...

      oh, btw - Saying "I hate pop-ups" is fine. Saying "I hate pop-ups. Using them is just a good way to annoy your visitors and lose money" is NOT fine."

      I guess you should delete my thread then...
  • Profile picture of the author lazy boy
    Thanks for the heads up. I will take heed.
  • Profile picture of the author revenue27
    Yup new Warrriors should read this (always and follow them) if you want to be a part of this Real Marketers Community. Thanks for always reminding about this rules Paul.
  • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
    An excellent post (not that I'm at all surprised considering the author).

    I agree that it should be made sticky. I also agree that most new members are either unaware or choose to ignore the sticky posts.

    Perhaps this post should be converted into a list that displays during the sign-up process for new members. Force them to read it and check off a box saying they have read it and will abide by the rules. Admittedly not perfect, but it might serve to get the word out to those who are just genuinely unaware of the forum rules.

    2. Post in the appropriate section of the board. Questions about SEO or posts asking for advice on specific products belong in other areas. Not Main Discussion. Post them here and they're more likely to be deleted than moved.
    There's a pet peeve of mine. I see so many WordPress and technical questions in the main forum, probably because the poster thinks it will have a better chance of getting a response because more eyeballs will view it.

    Even worse are those who post the exact same question in multiple sections of the board. Perhaps an additional warning about that would be in order.

    Bill
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Originally Posted by ChickenMan View Post

    Wait, why isn't this stickied yet?
    Personally?

    Personally I hope it's never stickied. Why? Because the very fact that this post exists is strong evidence that stickies don't get read.

    On the other hand, if it were to keep being bumped from time to time, I think more of the people that need to see it, would see it. That's just my opinion though.

    All the best,
    Michael
    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      On the other hand, if it were to keep being bumped from time to time, I think more of the people that need to see it, would see it. That's just my opinion though.
      For some reason I completely agree with you on this one...

      ~Bill
    • Profile picture of the author ChickenMan
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      Personally?

      Personally I hope it's never stickied. Why? Because the very fact that this post exists is strong evidence that stickies don't get read.

      On the other hand, if it were to keep being bumped from time to time, I think more of the people that need to see it, would see it. That's just my opinion though.

      All the best,
      Michael
      Just a suggestion
  • Profile picture of the author leegs
    Hi Paul,

    A piece of great information that you have posted in this forum.

    Share with us more topics as it will benefit those that are just joined this forum.

    Raymond
  • Profile picture of the author louiefrias
    No. 12 is the BEST one. For everything. Thanks Paul for reminding us.
  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
    Can we get this Stickied, as well as adding the basic forum rules. Such as "Do not post a message just to say 'Thank You' in response to a post. That is what the Thanks button is for"
    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Teravel View Post

      Can we get this Stickied, as well as adding the basic forum rules. Such as "Do not post a message just to say 'Thank You' in response to a post. That is what the Thanks button is for"
      Thank you...
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