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Is this niche worth the effort?

by melanieshereen
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Hi,

I am a little bit confused. :confused:

I found a niche with a bunch of popular clickbank affiliate products sold in it that I plan to promote. It happens to be a topic I know a lot about, so I figured it would be easy to write some quality articles and content for a blog etc.

I researched key words on Market Samurai, and found profitable long tails with fairly low competition. I made my own info product to give away at my squeeze page and was just about to start writing articles for ezinearticles.

So I used that "magic google code" someone kindly revealed here on the WF to find out which articles get at least 5,000 views on the topic. And none did. So I lowered the value to 1000 and still got no results.

There are over 100,000 articles there on the topic.

Is this good news for me, that if I write quality content optimized for my researched key words that I will rank high?

Or is there some reason why people aren't viewing these articles?

Thanks in advance ,
Melanie
#effort #niche #worth
  • Profile picture of the author Margo Tuul
    But why you don't say what niche is it. Then we can say exactly is it any good or no.

    Search volume or article views...that doesn't mean anything. If you don't want to say it here, send me a message and i can give you some advice.

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    • Profile picture of the author skyline-SEO
      Originally Posted by Margo24 View Post

      But why you don't say what niche is it. Then we can say exactly is it any good or no.

      Search volume or article views...that doesn't mean anything. If you don't want to say it here, send me a message and i can give you some advice.

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  • Profile picture of the author aandersen
    don't worry about that number at all. it is completely irrelevant.

    High view counts are commonly the results of unethical manipulation. Many good articles never break 100 views, and many really successful articles never get past a few hundred.

    worry more about stats that really matter, such as traffic and whether or not there is a market for the niche. If you can find search terms that get traffic and an audience full of buyers you can make money from it. What EZA's view count says has no effect on these things.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Melanie,

      Another way to judge whether a niche is worth the effort is to look for magazines online or at the local news stands on that topic. More magazines...more interest.

      Also see how many Adwords advertisers are competing for your keywords.

      It is possibe to pick a niche with a lot of interest yet not a lot of folks spending money on the topic. Everybody is interested in who is going to win the next election, as an example, but to a large degree they aren't spending boatloads of money with affiliates promoting the niche.

      ~Bill
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      • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
        This is not how you judge if it is worth it. A magazine will not show me if a keyword phrase will make me money. You need to look at the traffic a specific keyword phrase can deliver, if it is delivering buyers, then how much you can make.

        The first part takes correct research through google. The second part takes common sense. The third part takes a little math to determine how much money you can make with sponsors available for that niche.



        Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

        Melanie,

        Another way to judge whether a niche is worth the effort is to look for magazines online or at the local news stands on that topic. More magazines...more interest.

        Also see how many Adwords advertisers are competing for your keywords.

        It is possibe to pick a niche with a lot of interest yet not a lot of folks spending money on the topic. Everybody is interested in who is going to win the next election, as an example, but to a large degree they aren't spending boatloads of money with affiliates promoting the niche.

        ~Bill
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        • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
          Originally Posted by prodigaljoe View Post

          This is not how you judge if it is worth it. A magazine will not show me if a keyword phrase will make me money.
          Are you confusing niches with keywords?

          The question was "Is this niche worth the effort?"

          There is a difference, Sherlock.

          ~Bill
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          • Profile picture of the author PeopleSearchAffiliates
            Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

            Are you confusing niches with keywords?

            The question was "Is this niche worth the effort?"

            There is a difference, Sherlock.

            ~Bill

            This is true Bill!
            Magazines really do show which niche is worthwhile.

            Another great resource is checking out the Dummies.com books and see if they made a "for dummies" book about it. They are good at doing their research before printing a book. The nice thing is that these books are highly targeted.
            One key thing is that people who are willing to buy a magazine in a particular niche are willing to spend money on learning or knowing about that niche. Same with For Dummies.


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          • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
            Melanie is after niche keywords...

            "I researched key words on Market Samurai, and found profitable long tails with fairly low competition"

            Melanie             has a traffic source that she was looking at but got distracted by people saying look at ezine articles, look at magazine racks, etc.

            Melanie, if you already have a niche picked out and you are looking at traffic sources then don't backtrack to step 1. Analyze that traffic source to see if it is profitable.

            Ezine articles and magazine racks just give ideas to niches. Once you have those you go to the next step of seeing where you can get traffic and how much money you can make from it.




            Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

            Are you confusing niches with keywords?

            The question was "Is this niche worth the effort?"

            There is a difference, Sherlock.

            ~Bill
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    • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
      Surely out of 100,000 articles there must be at least SOME with over 1000 views - are you sure the 'code' was right?

      I think if there's a number of Clickbank products and they're popular then you should be okay, I'd do some more research into the articles though.

      Are there any articles ranked on page 1 of Google for the keywords in your niche? If there aren't it might be difficult to rank if there are alot of authority sites as competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
    Are you searching for the exact term? What is the pbr for the terms in Market Samurai? The article thing might not mean anything. If there is traffic there then go for it. Just check the pbr and how much traffic the top spot will get. Let me know those 2 numbers and I can help you figure out if this keyword is worth it.
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    • Profile picture of the author cjscully
      Originally Posted by prodigaljoe View Post

      Just check the pbr and how much traffic the top spot will get.
      Newbie question: what is "pbr"?
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      • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
        Originally Posted by cjscully View Post

        Newbie question: what is "pbr"?
        pbr is a term used in Market Samurai. It just shows how much of the traffic is coming from the exact term rather than the term bundled with other words.
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        • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
          Originally Posted by prodigaljoe View Post

          Melanie is after niche keywords...

          Ezine articles and magazine racks just give ideas to niches. Once you have those you go to the next step of seeing where you can get traffic and how much money you can make from it.
          It very easy to find niches that satisfy everything but the most important one...ROI.

          One of the reasons people struggle to make money is they pick the wrong niche.

          Ezine articles and magazine racks just give ideas to niches

          They can do far more than that if you know how to look for information buried between the lines. Such as looking at the ads in the magazines and the products that niche spends money on, the articles chosen to keep the magazine current and worth reading, and a host of other data such as subcription numbers.

          If you don't like the idea, or are limited in your research experience fine. I'll accept that. Just don't assume everyone else only looks at keywords as the end all be all.

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  • Profile picture of the author Solag
    if you don't mind,

    can you send me the post where you can get that post that shows how to put in the "magic google code" to show article views and such?

    I have been looking everywhere for it!!
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Originally Posted by melanieshereen View Post

    Hi,

    So I used that "magic google code" someone kindly revealed here on the WF to find out which articles get at least 5,000 views on the topic. And none did. So I lowered the value to 1000 and still got no results.

    I don't think you can necessarily deduce anything from this.

    Are any of these articles ranking highly for the keywords? If they are, then maybe your keyword research is off.... or maybe their titles are not enticing and yours would be better.

    Even if you did find some with 5000 views, these numbers can be artificially inflated by people trying to get in the "most viewed" category, so even then you couldn't come to the conclusion that lots of people read these articles.

    I think your best bet is to go with your keyword research - you've found keywords that get enough searches to satisfy you and have low competition so go ahead and write the articles and get them ranked.

    Sometimes if you over analyze stuff too much you think of too many reasons why you shouldn't "waste your time" moving forward and you never take action on anything.

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  • Profile picture of the author wvcopywriter
    If you like the niche and are good at that topic then even with alot of compition out their you should still be able to make good off of it. If you are willing to put a lot of extra time into it.

    Try and make your niche a little more unique than the other websites out their that are similar to yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben_R
    one way is to check the competition - also the ads that are being bought for teh kw in adwords --just check with a google search
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  • Profile picture of the author dv8domainsDotCom
    Also when researching KW (especially long tail) make sure you are comparing [exact search term] instead of broad or "phrase". If you are selling TO that phrase and optimizing around it, this might save you some frustration later on. [exact] volume might be a better gauge of profitability, among other niche-specific factors.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
    I also check out a number of the most popular articles in a niche and divide the number of days published by views to work the average number of views a day. Normally a good indication of whether a niche is active or not

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  • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
    Bill, you got the wrong impression. I get ideas from tv, magazines, everywhere. I write those ideas down then I start doing keyword research. I am not against finding niches that way. I do it all of the time.

    I am saying she seems to have already found a niche and is looking at keywords. If she is at that step then she needs to analyze those keywords to see if they are profitable. Do they send the traffic and is it to something that people are buying? Ezine articles can't show this. Many ezine articles are more informative anyways.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Why are people so interested in the number of views that other people's articles have had?!

      It doesn't tell you which articles, products, niches, resource-boxes or anything else are any good, or are doing well, at all.

      All it usually tells you is which of your potential competitors have decided to send their traffic to article directories rather than to their own sites. (I'm happy for as many of my potential competitors as possible to carry on doing that, myself).
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Using article views isnt exactly a wise thing to do in order to address potential commercial intent and marketplace profitability. Yes that method may have its place, but surely you should be using more reliable data sources as an indication of whether or not you want to move ahead with a certain project.

    Low view counts on certain ezine articles *may* just mean that they arent ranking well in the SERPS, as well as many other unknown factors.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Melanie, Market Samurai also gives you an SEO value for the keyword.

      5,000 at 0 click through rate or
      100 at 20%
      Which is better? In other words, you don't have enough info to make a judgment.

      What does Google say about the average cost per click?

      What does common sense say?

      By the way, bad article titles with good articles - few click on the article. Great article title with a bad article - lots of clicks, but nobody reads but the beginning.
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