Why the War Room Sucks for Newbies

Steven Carl Kelly

15 years ago

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Michael Oksa

15 years ago

The phrase "like a kid in a candy store" comes to mind. You can fill up on all the goodies, but if you don't know what you're doing, you'll only get a tummyache.

~Michael

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kenny5

15 years ago

I agree, unless said newbie could find one of those shiny objects and hold on to it and love it, meaning find one good program and stick to it.

That s very hard to do though, I know from experience.

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Tina Golden 15 years ago

I have to agree. That's why I never recommend a newbie to join the War Room. There is very little newbie information in there, that I've seen. I think it's a sure path to information overload until you have been around the block a time or two.

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sarafina

15 years ago

That was my first thought when I joined.

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andybeveridge

15 years ago

If they go and download my free report in the War room, then it would be the perfect place to start.

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robs132

15 years ago

I was in there the other day and picked up the most amazing piece of software that I played around with all night.

The problem was it COMPLETELY distracted me from what I was actually meant to be doing....

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Coby

15 years ago

Originally Posted by robs132

I was in there the other day and picked up the most amazing piece of software that I played around with all night.

The problem was it COMPLETELY distracted me from what I was actually meant to be doing....

Guilty of doing this myself. Lots of good stuff in the war room, but very easy to become overloaded with information. It would be best to mind something you like and work it before trying the next thing. Set up a plan to work on a new method or product every day for a month. Then you can decide if its going to work and then just rinse and repeat for more profits

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entrepreneurjay

15 years ago

The Warroom is great if your not living in there to find some cool freebies, and tips. But you will not make any money by jumping from one thing to another. Make a game plan, stick to your game plan, and execute your game plan for success.

Its as simple as that.

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robs132 15 years ago

So many shiny objects to chase around in there...!
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ZaraK 15 years ago

I see it the complete opposite. There are shiny things all over the place ... casually laying around in this forum, in the WSO area, in the classifieds, in every single area.

Joining the War Room as a newbie kept me from spending money I did not need to spend on shiny WSOs. Although I still did buy some shiny WSOs, I was able to be choosier about where my investment went.
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ZaraK

15 years ago

And while I agree that you need to pick something and FOCUS on that something and not "hop around", sometimes you need to hop around in order to gather enough information to make a decision on what your focus will be.

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entrepreneurjay

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ZaraK

And while I agree that you need to pick something and FOCUS on that something and not "hop around", sometimes you need to hop around in order to gather enough information to make a decision on what your focus will be.

Yeah but to a point. Everything in moderation. If you hop around all the time you will be a tired rabbit then the fox will catch you and eat you lol. Good analogy huh?

You want to save all your energy on building your business and concentrate on things that are gonna make you money. Reading 10 e-books everyday though good for learning is gonna drain you out.

write articles, start a self hosted wordpress blog, comment on blogs, build a mailing list, submit some videos for your business.

These are things that are productive and that are actually building your business.

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TheCG

15 years ago

I agree with the OP but I love it!

I just found this place about 5 weeks ago and I have spend all 5 weeks jumping from new shiny thing to new shiny thing. I still really haven't found what I want to do yet and choosing from all the offerings that claim to "Show me how to make $500 a day GUARANTEED!" is a challenge.

I have already bought my share of WSOs and will probably buy more but you just don't know what you don't know.

I try to take the advice I read here from time to time about if you are new find one thing and stick to it but each new thing I find just sounds so incredible! LOL

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robs132 15 years ago

When you first getting started there is that steep exciting learning curve and you do want to take it all in, but then you have to stop and choose a direction, that's when you begin to profit.
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- TheCG 15 years ago
  
  In other businesses that I have been involved with in the past, there were different niches that were better suited to a newbie and niches that were better suite to a seasoned person.
  
  In IM, if you had to choose, what would you say would be the best "shiny thing" for a newbie to do that could give them faster success with less monetary risk?
  
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  robs132 15 years ago
  
  Hey CG,
  
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  Find one that people are actually buying with low competition, set up a site and do a little article marketing.
  
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Raemi13

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TheCG

I agree with the OP but I love it!

I just found this place about 5 weeks ago and I have spend all 5 weeks jumping from new shiny thing to new shiny thing. I still really haven't found what I want to do yet and choosing from all the offerings that claim to "Show me how to make $500 a day GUARANTEED!" is a challenge.

I have already bought my share of WSOs and will probably buy more but you just don't know what you don't know.

I try to take the advice I read here from time to time about if you are new find one thing and stick to it but each new thing I find just sounds so incredible! LOL

I know you're going to get tons of suggestions. But in my own experience, the two "courses" and guys that over-delivered and actually got me doing something rather than looking for the next thing are Mark Ling's Affiloblueprint and Brian Johnson's Commission Ritual.
Mark Ling works more with Clickbank products and tells you exactly what to look for and Brian Johnson does more physical products.
I have followed both of them and am making sales on my websites from both of their teachings.

Rae

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ZaraK

15 years ago

Originally Posted by entrepreneurjay

write articles, start a self hosted wordpress blog, comment on blogs, build a mailing list, submit some videos for your business.

These are things that are productive and that are actually building your business.

Certainly! As long as you know what your business is.

Is it selling IM to other IMers?
Is it affiliate marketing?
Is it selling Amazon products through product reviews?
Is it offline consulting? To a niche or in general? Part of a traditional consultancy or completely focused on internet consulting?
Is it one of any of hundreds of other ways to make via all the different flavors of Internet marketing?

You have to know what your business is before you can write any meaningful articles, blog any meaningful blog information, find any appropriate blogs to comment on, build up a mailing list (doesn't do me one BIT of good to build up a list consisting of all of you when you aren't my target market), and create some videos (about what, exactly? If you don't know what your business is).

And reading through all these forums INCLUDING the War Room helps newbies decide on what the nature of the business is.

That being said, I agree it IS easy to get lost amongst all the possibilities, and the War Room contains more possibilities than most other areas. BUT, it also helps to figure out what will work with your own strengths and your own background instead of running off half-cocked with the first shiny thing you see.

That's my opinion, and I'm not saying it's right for everybody. But neither is avoiding the War Room as a newbie right for everybody.

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Raemi13 15 years ago

I'm not even a newbie, but I still get distracted by all the candy and shiny objects. It's very hard to stay focused on one thing when everything else is so enticing.
But you're right - stick to it, make sure you get every last bit out of what you're doing.
There is a LOT of stuff that works out there, you just have to do the work!
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Andrew_Cheyne

15 years ago

LOL, are you writing this post about me?... Funny I have been feeling the same way, there is so much good stuff going on here it is hard to actually get my work done!

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Slade556

15 years ago

I agree with you that the biggest danger that comes with a valuable resource like the War Room is information overload however it depends on the mindset of the person seeking the information. I have seen newbies be able to focus on one thing and experience great success, but as you mentioned, the more likely scenario is chasing shiny object after shiny object.

I don't necessarily agree that you need to pay for the information to commit to it but I do think newbies need to exercise self discipline and not be seduced by the 'newest, greatest' thing that keeps popping up in the War Room.

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darren13 15 years ago

Yea Im trying to stick to the rule of staying the course with one method only. But its hard to do as theres so much new information and ideas available on the WF.
Im new enough to IM but i can highly recommend the war room to anyone that hasnt already joined. I have learned alot and recieved a lot of free information there.
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GuruBomb

15 years ago

Truth is most "newbies" have nothing of value to offer... and so an endless journey to "make money online" begins.

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TheCG 15 years ago

Originally Posted by GuruBomb

Truth is most "newbies" have nothing of value to offer... and so an endless journey to "make money online" begins.

Nothing of value to offer?

I have been around the block and don't expect anything for free. I know there is work involved no matter what an ebook says so the hard work part doesn't bother me.

The hard part for me and I expect for most new people is where to start. Most things I read leave out little details that make all the difference.

No endless journey to make money online for me. If it can be done, I can do it. It is just a matter of finding the path. I don't mind walking from there.
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