Do Traffic Exchanges Work?

by JaredSilver 226 replies
Salutations all.

I was just wondering what your thoughts on this topic are.

Traffic exchanges have been around since about the same time as Google, and hundreds of thousands of people use them every week.

I know, like everything else in internet marketing, that there is an art and a science to getting them to work properly.

What are your thoughts on traffic exchanges?

Do they work?

What is your experience with them?

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
    My experience is complete JUNK, Yes they will get you traffic but its JUNK traffic I personally would steer clear of them as I have never seen one convert.

    JMHO

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    • Profile picture of the author Goliath
      Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

      My experience is complete JUNK, Yes they will get you traffic but its JUNK traffic I personally would steer clear of them as I have never seen one convert.

      JMHO

      Gaz Cooper
      same here

      but even though i've never had a high converting rate using this source of traffic, i believe i do however get my website out to more people. So for me, THIS IS ALWAYS GOOD NEWS!

      Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author simonbuzz
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      Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

      My experience is complete JUNK, Yes they will get you traffic but its JUNK traffic I personally would steer clear of them as I have never seen one convert.

      JMHO

      Gaz Cooper
      I agree with him...
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
      Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

      My experience is complete JUNK, Yes they will get you traffic but its JUNK traffic I personally would steer clear of them as I have never seen one convert.

      JMHO

      Gaz Cooper

      Originally Posted by simonbuzz View Post

      I agree with him...
      Read further into this post, he changed his mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbasa
      Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

      My experience is complete JUNK, Yes they will get you traffic but its JUNK traffic I personally would steer clear of them as I have never seen one convert.

      JMHO

      Gaz Cooper
      That is exactly my view! People who surf traffic exchanges are doing it for the same reason as you: to get their links to be clicked. You really have to stand out from the crowd to capture a surfer's eye on this one.
      On the other hand, you can write an article or two in the same amount of time you spend on trafic exchanges.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    Untargeted traffic is absolutely useless and does nothing for your business except mess up your analytics.

    Traffic exchanges fall into that category IMHO.

    Cheers,

    Neil
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    • Profile picture of the author JaredSilver
      Originally Posted by Neil Morgan View Post

      Untargeted traffic is absolutely useless and does nothing for your business except mess up your analytics.
      I'm not quite sure what you mean by "untargeted traffic".

      Traffic exchanges are about as targeted as it gets, I think.

      Everyone who is using a traffic exchange is there to make money online.

      Hence, they are in the "make money online" niche.

      With proper targeting of your advertising, any source of traffic can be an absolute goldmine, right?

      So, why are traffic exchanges any different?
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      • Profile picture of the author sameerjoad
        Originally Posted by JaredSilver View Post

        I'm not quite sure what you mean by "untargeted traffic".

        Traffic exchanges are about as targeted as it gets, I think.

        Everyone who is using a traffic exchange is there to make money online.

        Hence, they are in the "make money online" niche.

        With proper targeting of your advertising, any source of traffic can be an absolute goldmine, right?

        So, why are traffic exchanges any different?
        Correction.

        Everyone using traffic exchanges is there looking for 'traffic' - it works best if you have a traffic related product to sell.

        I did an experiment with PTC sites, where people want money - result not a single sale but lots of downloads (yea hotfile - i was a complete noob, if only i had built a list that time).

        You make money when you give/show/tell people what 'they' want. So yes they can be used for a good cause, but most traffic exchanges (and PTC) are useless with people using click bots and what not to make a few cents or raise their alexa (yes few guys sell alexa services).
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
      Originally Posted by Neil Morgan View Post

      Untargeted traffic is absolutely useless and does nothing for your business except mess up your analytics.

      Traffic exchanges fall into that category IMHO.

      Cheers,

      Neil
      Hey Neil i have gotten anything up to 3500 new leads a month from them, you might want to rethink that
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      • Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

        Hey Neil i have gotten anything up to 3500 new leads a month from them, you might want to rethink that
        Yeah but you own the traffic exchanges. For the rest of us chumps it is a waste of time.... But

        Offer something unique - like free software or graphics for people to join your list ---> Both graphics and software are hot giveaway items. Also consider viral reports and building a downline - check out LFM for the script that allows you to build an affiliate program and include rebrandable reports. Excellent script - although the latest updates are driving me nuts. I had a failed launch because the new features on the script gave me nothing but grief- after a month it still isn't all resolved. it was just one thing after another. I miss the old script - but I do love the rebrandable reports big time!

        One thing is for sure - you do not want to sit there all day clicking away and getting nothing from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mark healy
    im exerimenting with a few at the moment and will let you know
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    Never seen one convert? LOL

    Lemme guess....Twenty page long sales copy, promises of affiliate riches, oh yes, don't forget your SEO friendly ad copy.

    Using traffic exchanges is pretty simple....Create something that grabs people's attention, brand yourself, and build your list.

    I've been using them without ANY other form of advertising for 13 years now....Haven't needed anything else.

    But stay ignorant...We love it and our industry grows and prospers while the 'IM community' finds a new fad every 6 months.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
      Jon Olsen Your a nice sarcastic name calling know it all arn't you

      I posted my opinion and my experience of using traffic exchanges which I am entitled, and don't need to be insulted by you for having my own opinion

      Get a life and stop insulting people if you have nothing positive to say STFU

      You have a thousand posts and should know better why not just say I have been using them for 13 years and they work great for me, instead you insult and attack people. SAD SAD SAD Get a life

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      • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
        LOL Yup, glad to see the Warrior Forum is still the same.

        You called my business 'JUNK', so excuse me for being a little defensive.

        You are ignorant to traffic exchanges, just say 'I don't know cause I don't use them properly'....

        Easy.
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        • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
          Originally Posted by Jon Olson View Post

          LOL Yup, glad to see the Warrior Forum is still the same.

          You called my business 'JUNK', so excuse me for being a little defensive.

          You are ignorant to traffic exchanges, just say 'I don't know cause I don't use them properly'....

          Easy.
          Of course it makes sense now as that's what your trying to sell to people and as far as me not knowing how to use them maybe but then again I know lots of people who also think they are JUNK are you going to bash on all of them that confirm it here.

          My opinion is still its COMPLETE JUNK untargeted traffic and a waste of time, now if you can prove me wrong I'm man enough to say I'm wrong and eat some humble pie.

          Just never seen it work for anyone and I been around a while.

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          • Profile picture of the author JaredSilver
            Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

            Just never seen it work for anyone and I been around a while.
            I don't know... But, according to some 3rd party tracking statistics, over 300,000 people use them every week... Marketing to "nobody" sure works out pretty well some times
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    Hey Neil...Live in the market, not the spreadsheet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    Hey Neil...Live in the market, not the spreadsheet.
    Tell that to the Adwords marketers that have lost their shirts
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    Yeah sorry, not a fan of Ad Words and wouldn't waste my time with SEO.

    I prefer social, talking to live people, getting to know members...Hands on stuff you know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    LOL Trying to sell? Traffic exchanges in the Warrior Forum? LOLOL Man oh man, I gave that up in 2006. Too many experts here trying to pitch you the latest affiliate marketing revolution.

    Prove you wrong? You already have your mind made up. But seeing that traffic exchanges have been around since about 1998...I guess 'time in market' would prove that. Yup, that's right when Google was getting their 'plan in order' traffic exchanges were vibrant active communities.

    As for them working for people...Like everything online, if you don't learn how to market to a niche, you won't get results.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
    Here's some things to consider when it comes to traffic exchanges:

    Thousands of new marketers join traffic exchanges everyday looking for ways to create income online drawn to traffic exchanges because of their low starting costs for advertising.

    And it only makes since for more experienced marketers to at least get in front of this ever growing market place to build upon their brand. I am talking about instant access to some of the most impressionable minds that you will ever have access to.

    Many do not have their own websites, are not building their email lists, do not understand SEO, PPC, etc. You are missing the boat in a big way by not trying to fully understand how you can effectively use this source of traffic for your business. Even from a branding stand point.

    While promoting your squeeze page offers, you are getting your name out in front of thousands of new marketers that may just one day buy your high end product just because they saw your name and followed your advice in the beginning.

    Not to mention even marketers like Mike Filsaime got their start using traffic exchanges, recall instant buzz?

    Disclaimer: I happen to be a TE owner so I am partial to shedding positive light on them. That being said I used them with great success long before becoming an owner myself.
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    • Profile picture of the author paddyhack
      Yeah the traffic is a bit dodgy but you just have to think why they are there. They are trying to get visitors to their site so sell something that helps with that. That is just a guess though, don't use em
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      • Profile picture of the author JaredSilver
        Originally Posted by paddyhack View Post

        Yeah the traffic is a bit dodgy but you just have to think why they are there. They are trying to get visitors to their site so sell something that helps with that. That is just a guess though, don't use em
        Thanks for your response.

        I'd have to agree with that for the most part. (aside from the "dodgy" part)

        It seems to be just like any other form of advertising - just a matter of targeting the ads to the specific niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
      Originally Posted by JohnGuanzon View Post

      Here's some things to consider when it comes to traffic exchanges:

      Thousands of new marketers join traffic exchanges everyday looking for ways to create income online drawn to traffic exchanges because of their low starting costs for advertising.

      And it only makes since for more experienced marketers to at least get in front of this ever growing market place to build upon their brand. I am talking about instant access to some of the most impressionable minds that you will ever have access to.

      Many do not have their own websites, are not building their email lists, do not understand SEO, PPC, etc. You are missing the boat in a big way by not trying to fully understand how you can effectively use this source of traffic for your business. Even from a branding stand point.

      While promoting your squeeze page offers, you are getting your name out in front of thousands of new marketers that may just one day buy your high end product just because they saw your name and followed your advice in the beginning.

      Not to mention even marketers like Mike Filsaime got their start using traffic exchanges, recall instant buzz?

      Disclaimer: I happen to be a TE owner so I am partial to shedding positive light on them. That being said I used them with great success long before becoming an owner myself.
      You make some valid points but again you have a vested interest in being positive about it, I would like to see some posts from people who are successful in using it as you describe. It was a few years ago I tried it and contrary to what Mr Olsen is saying if something has changed Im happy to listen but my experience is Traffic Exchanges Prey on newbies and those looking to try and get traffic to their new sites so they sign up for these systems and then end up saying I got lots of traffic but nothing converted.

      Now yes because they are new maybe there page was not optimized but I really have never heard a good thing about them from someone other than those hawking it that have had any success,

      Maybe we will get some here.

      And as for you young Sir why not try it yourself and see what the results are I think you may have a different view once you try it yourself.

      And Jon since we are all so ignorant on how to use a TE correctly why not show us, nothing better than proving me wrong, now that means I have an open mind and am willing to listen.

      What sort of offers convert best ? give an example

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      • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
        Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

        You make some valid points but again you have a vested interest in being positive about it, I would like to see some posts from people who are successful in using it as you describe. It was a few years ago I tried it and contrary to what Mr Olsen is saying if something has changed Im happy to listen but my experience is Traffic Exchanges Prey on newbies and those looking to try and get traffic to their new sites so they sign up for these systems and then end up saying I got lots of traffic but nothing converted.

        Now yes because they are new maybe there page was not optimized but I really have never heard a good thing about them from someone other than those hawking it that have had any success,

        Maybe we will get some here.

        And as for you young Sir why not try it yourself and see what the results are I think you may have a different view once you try it yourself.

        And Jon since we are all so ignorant on how to use a TE correctly why not show us, nothing better than proving me wrong, now that means I have an open mind and am willing to listen.

        What sort of offers convert best ? give an example

        Gaz Cooper
        Hey Gaz, appreciate you being open minded here. There has been a huge shift spear headed by a handful of owners that has changed the effectiveness of traffic exchanges by bringing personal branding and a social element into the experience.

        It boils down to the fact that we buy from who we know, like, and trust online. A hand full of savvy owners who are fully aware of this, sought to make changes to their traffic exchanges. Thus those programs have evolved into social traffic networks that allow for like minded individuals leverage that power to grow their businesses.

        Here is a recent video interview I did with Sterling Valentine who recently came back to and experienced for himself the difference in these new social traffic networks:

        Day 2: Listbuilding Video Training with Sterling Valentine & John Guanzon

        And one with Jon Olson:

        http://listlaser.com/challenge/day-8...nd-jon-olson/:

        I am certain that other non-owners will join this convo and share their insights.
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        • Profile picture of the author swhomebiz
          I'm not a Traffic Exchange (TE) owner, but a TE user who also uses safelists and viral mailers for advertising purposes. Being a Business Management major and having worked for several corporations (also I'm a Six Sigma Green Belt, if that means anything to those of you in the business world), I've done tons of slicing/dicing type analysis and am well aware of the benefits they have. While this is not a strength of the TE industry (yet), there are a few TE's out there that do allow a bit of segmentation (mostly geographical). Just gotta do your homework to find those and take advantage of what they have for you.

          The socializing part that is mentioned in several of the previous applies is quickly become a strength of the TE industry. Why? Using any/all means to expose yourself to the public is huge, regardless of industry...regardless of what you're advertising. The TE industry is quickly figuring out that if you use social media (like Twitter and Facebook, among others), the exposure is a great way to gain customers and improve your reputation in the industry. Gary Vaynerchuk (author/wine guru/social media guru) has nothing to do with the TE industry, but his passion for the social tools and their benefits are quickly making their way into the TE industry. I'm doing it myself (still tons of room for improvement), plus I put my name and face on all of the "splash pages" I make for what I advertise (aka branding myself -- another "term" the TE industry is starting to adopt). So, when folks see my advertising, they recognize me from my socializing and (hopefully) are more likely to at least review what I'm advertising.
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        • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
          Originally Posted by JohnGuanzon View Post

          Hey Gaz, appreciate you being open minded here. There has been a huge shift spear headed by a handful of owners that has changed the effectiveness of traffic exchanges by bringing personal branding and a social element into the experience.

          It boils down to the fact that we buy from who we know, like, and trust online. A hand full of savvy owners who are fully aware of this, sought to make changes to their traffic exchanges. Thus those programs have evolved into social traffic networks that allow for like minded individuals leverage that power to grow their businesses.

          Here is a recent video interview I did with Sterling Valentine who recently came back to and experienced for himself the difference in these new social traffic networks:

          Day 2: Listbuilding Video Training with Sterling Valentine & John Guanzon

          And one with Jon Olson:

          Day 8: List Building Video Training With Sterling Valentine and Jon Olson

          I am certain that other non-owners will join this convo and share their insights.
          Hey John

          Looks like things have changed over the years, and it seems for the better. After checking your site out, I can totally see the value using it as a LIST BUILDER with a squeeze page, and I think I had totally blanked traffic exchanges out of my mind after using them years ago before squeeze pages were around and I just never put the 2 together but can see the potential with the changes made.

          I still think its a tough sell and your squeeze page better be real good to grab someones interest in just a few seconds before they click on the next site especially if they are trying to build credits.

          Its cheap enough to give it a shot and see what the opt in rate is and give TE another shot as a list building option.

          Like I say I always have an open mind and am always happy to give something another try if I am shown things may have changed as is the case here.

          The other thing to learn here is how Jon reacted to my initial post and how you reacted, jon attacked me for my opinion, when you took the time to point out some positive points and educate rather than alienate and that is why you will get my business rather than Jon.

          Best regards

          Gaz Cooper



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          • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
            @ Gaz np! Feel free to add me on skype, if you have any questions or need some advice on what would work best within the exchanges let me know, would be more than happy to help out.
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
            For the record, Jon is a stand up guy, good friend, awesome mentor, and savvy business mind. Dunno about anyone else but someone who shows that much passion for something, I feel usually always has the best kind of experience and knowledge to share.
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            • Profile picture of the author patrickgriffin
              Jared and all,
              If I had been asked this question a year ago I would have said that I had never tried to use traffic exchanges and that I would have little desire to do so.

              I believed - quite wrongly as it turned out - that they could not possibly work because those surfing were just mindlessly clicking away for credits so they could show their adverts to others who were just mindlessly clicking away for credits.

              Then a few months ago a very successful marketer whom I much admire in this industry (and who is not a traffic exchange owner) asked me: “Have you heard of ThumbVu?”
              “No,” I replied, “Should I have. What is it?”

              It transpired that ThumnbVu was a social traffic exchange where advertisers can do two things at once; advertise and also engage in meaningful two-way dialogue with other advertisers.

              Not only that but it also allows you, the traffic exchange surfer, to choose the adverts you are going to watch, rate them should you wish to do so (a simple thumbs up/thumbs down system is used) and, get this, obtain instant access the advertiser’s contact details.

              Within just hours of using this traffic exchange any notions I may have had that these things did not work were dispelled but it took me a few weeks to fully understand the real power that traffic exchanges actually have.

              I started advertising one squeeze page at first - a pretty standard page with no reference to me or my name or my photograph - and it worked because I put names on my list.

              Then I discovered that the people getting the best results were being a little more proactive than me. They were putting their name on their squeeze page, adding a photo, adding video while at the same time actively taking part in the chat functions of the exchange in question.

              I did the only thing I could do in the circumstances. I tried to forget about my natural shyness and I copied them. Soon I had multiple squeeze and splash pages up and running - all with my name and picture - some with live pages from my blog and, most recently, one with a video of me wearing a blonde wig and a green feather boa. At the same time I became active in ThumbVu chat.

              So what happened? Well lets ignore the direct advertising element of a social traffic exchange for a moment and concentrate on the chat function for a moment. Whether you are in a traffic exchange, a checkout queue, a waiting room, a party, anywhere really, if you talk to people and are nice to them they will generally talk back. And if you chat to a stranger for a while the conversation will either naturally fizzle out or you will find things in common and want to chat more.

              Now back to ThumbVu and lets re-introduce the advertising element of TEs . I became active in the chat room and others got to know me as a person while, at the same time, looking at my pages. People were seeing my picture on the pages and asking me about what I was promoting in chat and the easy access of contact information means that many people took the option of adding me to Skype, Facebook, Twitter and the like so we could continue our dialogue outside of the traffic exchanges.

              And during this time I am also getting signups to the pages I advertise so getting names on my list while at the same time building friendships and possibly meeting future business partners and this makes social traffic exchanges a pretty useful marketing tool. In fact if you are new to marketing I would suggest that traffic exchanges are the very first thing you should try.

              Next I found that Sweeva and I Love Hits also have social elements built in and I also found the same results there. I sometimes put a page of my blog up on Sweeva - yes you can advertise a blog on a traffic exchange and don’t let anybody tell you differently - and it does get me sign ups to my list. Here is one comment I got on Sweeva recently: “Welcome blogger chap, nice splash page, lots of good info.”

              Junk traffic? - absolute nonsense.
              Waste of time and effort? - absolute nonsense.
              One of the best things I have ever done in online marketing? - absolutely.

              Kind regards to all,
              Patrick.
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            • Profile picture of the author txconx
              Originally Posted by JohnGuanzon View Post

              For the record, Jon is a stand up guy, good friend, awesome mentor, and savvy business mind. Dunno about anyone else but someone who shows that much passion for something, I feel usually always has the best kind of experience and knowledge to share.
              He may be all that but in his posts in this thread, at least, he sounds like an immature jerk.
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      • Profile picture of the author JaredSilver
        Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

        You make some valid points but again you have a vested interest in being positive about it, I would like to see some posts from people who are successful in using it as you describe.
        Well, I know there is quite a community of people who have been successful with traffic exchanges. Otherwise, how would only a small handful of them have an average of 331,585 active users every week?

        How would the top few exchanges get an average of almost 7,500 new members every week?

        The stats tell me that SOMEONE has to be getting good results with them.

        Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

        It was a few years ago I tried it and contrary to what Mr Olsen is saying if something has changed Im happy to listen but my experience is Traffic Exchanges Prey on newbies and those looking to try and get traffic to their new sites so they sign up for these systems and then end up saying I got lots of traffic but nothing converted.
        Yea, I think they changed a lot since then.

        Now, they are much more about building relationships than building nameless, faceless visitors.

        The reason why so many "newbies" fail with traffic exchanges is because they are marketing with the old mindset of "I need to get this many people to see my long sales page, and then one fourth of a section of a pie chart will buy "x" copies of this, and then..."

        That's the old way of using traffic exchanges.

        The new way is by engaging the market and forming profitable business relationships with people who you know, like, and trust. The reason TE's are so powerful nowadays is because they are such a wonderful tool to brand your name and face, and to connect with the marketplace. The combination of these two things makes it incredibly simple to get people to know, like, and trust you.

        Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

        Now yes because they are new maybe there page was not optimized but I really have never heard a good thing about them from someone other than those hawking it that have had any success,

        Maybe we will get some here.

        And as for you young Sir why not try it yourself and see what the results are I think you may have a different view once you try it yourself.
        Well, actually, I've built lists of thousands using only traffic exchanges and a few other, similar advertising sources.

        Now, I know, "thousands" may not really be that much...

        But, for a 14 year old only doing this for less than a year...

        Well, if I can use traffic exchanges to do that, then anyone can.
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      • Profile picture of the author alcymart
        Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

        You make some valid points but again you have a vested interest in being positive about it, I would like to see some posts from people who are successful in using it as you describe. It was a few years ago I tried it and contrary to what Mr Olsen is saying if something has changed Im happy to listen but my experience is Traffic Exchanges Prey on newbies and those looking to try and get traffic to their new sites so they sign up for these systems and then end up saying I got lots of traffic but nothing converted.

        Now yes because they are new maybe there page was not optimized but I really have never heard a good thing about them from someone other than those hawking it that have had any success,

        Maybe we will get some here.

        And as for you young Sir why not try it yourself and see what the results are I think you may have a different view once you try it yourself.

        And Jon since we are all so ignorant on how to use a TE correctly why not show us, nothing better than proving me wrong, now that means I have an open mind and am willing to listen.

        What sort of offers convert best ? give an example

        Gaz Cooper
        Ok, I'll jump in this thread and let me say this: I am one of the top referrers in 47 Traffic Exchanges and Mr Olson and Mr Guanzon can attest to that right here in this very thread!

        I have used TE's for 10+ years now and consider myself an authoritive voice in the industry.

        Ok, sure, if we compare the quality of traffic against "great SEO", SEO wins it hands down but not everyone can do "great SEO"! As of this writing, most all and I would say 90% of my sales for whatever product or affiliate program was a result solely of TE traffic!

        You may argue, "Yah but your a top referrer and have huge downlines and its expected to work for you"...

        On that, I have to agree, not everyone will become a top referrer. As the saying goes, some will, some won't. I know its working for many of my referrals in my downlines trained by me personally. In fact on some TE's, me and my students hold all the top referrer positions.

        I admit, I made my own science on succeeding with TE's. One must get involved for them to work. One must work them efficiently by either upgrading like I am with most of the 47 so I get more visits per click, and just be smart using them too.

        Write a better Ad copy than everyone else and is and you'll be on top of things!

        The TE owners themselves make you great traffic offers every now and then, and one must take advantage instead of just crying in a corner.

        It is a fact that you shouldn't of used the word "Junk" in a TE owners face who would take it very personal.

        In fact, I found the traffic to be greatly targeted since you will mostly find folks promoting their opp and are on a constant lookout the next best opp...

        I could manage to earn a living online with TE's Only even if I had nothing else... and would still earn a modest income with the TE's combined income.

        Sure, you are allowed to an opinion, but avoid to give an opinion unless you are an expert in the field in question.

        Oh, and by the way, I been a surfer of TE's for 10 years. I am at ground zero every single day, are you? No hard feelings


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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    LOL How is it dodgy?

    You talk to live members.

    Surf in a community.

    Discuss what is being advertised.

    And have complete focus on your ads.

    Ignorance..If you don't use them and are a part of the community, you shouldn't judge them. If you want to see why they have been around for over a decade....Try them out, properly.

    But be warned....It will take effort and time. A little bit of elbow grease.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
      Originally Posted by Jon Olson View Post

      LOL How is it dodgy?

      You talk to live members.

      Surf in a community.

      Discuss what is being advertised.

      And have complete focus on your ads.

      Ignorance..If you don't use them and are a part of the community, you shouldn't judge them. If you want to see why they have been around for over a decade....Try them out, properly.

      But be warned....It will take effort and time. A little bit of elbow grease.
      Your talking about your own product now correct which actually looks like something a little different to past TE that we have seen.

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      • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
        Originally Posted by GazCooperOnline View Post

        Your talking about your own product now correct which actually looks like something a little different to past TE that we have seen.

        Gaz Cooper
        The past year or two has seen a big change int he way 'traffic' is delivered in this business. But the model is still the same...I look at your website, you look at mine.

        We have gone social in the T.E.'s. The ability to connect directly, in a live environment, has helped us show that this traffic isn't so bad when you put the community first.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    Squeeze and splash pages.

    Branding your self, and building your list.

    Everything else, will get horrid conversions. And it's expected because people are taught to promote generic affiliate links, and build someone else's business.
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    All I know is simple. Traffic = Money.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgand
    Can't recommend traffic exchanges, you'll only get useless traffic. Targeted visitors is what you want, and you can get these through improving your rankings on the search engines or using ppc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by jgand View Post

      Can't recommend traffic exchanges, you'll only get useless traffic. Targeted visitors is what you want
      As wisely oberved in a few posts above, traffic exchange traffic is targeted.

      Many of the people who have had bad experiences with traffic exchanges have mis-used them; some have misunderstood them completely. (Nothing surprising there, I think: the same could equally truthfully be stated about almost every facet of internet marketing).

      If you're promoting a product about "how to get extra traffic to your website", then traffic exchange traffic is highly targeted, isn't it? There's no point in criticising traffic as "untargeted" if you're trying to sell something that those people aren't already looking for, is there? This is just "Marketing 101", surely?

      With Traffic Exchange traffic, there's maybe no point in trying to sell anything directly. My understanding is that the people doing well with it (and some are adding 100 double opted-in leads per day to their lists) are using it simply as well-designed list-building, offering something of value to traffic-seekers. If you try to use it in other, different ways - well: "it's" just not going to work, is it - or rather, "your business" isn't going to work with it.

      Nobody's going to convince me that adding 100 double-opted-in people to a list per day can't become a good source of income, or that it's all "traffic" rather than "buying traffic": to me, this makes no sense at all.

      There are people starting threads (here and elsewhere) all the time saying "Article Marketing doesn't work any more". And when you look at what they're doing, it transpires that they're spinning and mass-submitting articles to article directories, using software, without even publishing the articles themselves first on their own site, and then sometimes they're further compounding the damage by putting their time, energy and resources into building backlinks to article directories instead of to their own sites. And naturally enough, quite a common conclusion from them to make, from their own experiences, is that "article marketing doesn't work any more". And they say so, right here, very repeatedly. :p

      What does this have to do with traffic exchanges? It's just an analogy: exactly the same thing's true of traffic exchanges, too, isn't it? They also "don't work" for people who don't know how to use them and are promoting products/services inappropriate to that sort of traffic.

      However many people say "this is untargeted traffic" and "keep away from this traffic", they can't change the reality that (as discussed here in several other threads) some Warriors are adding several hundred names per week to their lists, and making five-figure monthly incomes from this same traffic. Like everything else, it's what you make of it.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        As wisely oberved in a few posts above, traffic exchange traffic is targeted.

        Many of the people who have had bad experiences with traffic exchanges have mis-used them; some have misunderstood them completely. (Nothing surprising there, I think: the same could equally truthfully be stated about almost every facet of internet marketing).

        If you're promoting a product about "how to get extra traffic to your website", then traffic exchange traffic is highly targeted, isn't it? There's no point in criticising traffic as "untargeted" if you're trying to sell something that those people aren't already looking for, is there? This is just "Marketing 101", surely?

        With Traffic Exchange traffic, there's maybe no point in trying to sell anything directly. My understanding is that the people doing well with it (and some are adding 100 double opted-in leads per day to their lists) are using it simply as well-designed list-building, offering something of value to traffic-seekers. If you try to use it in other, different ways - well: "it's" just not going to work, is it - or rather, "your business" isn't going to work with it.

        Nobody's going to convince me that adding 100 double-opted-in people to a list per day can't become a good source of income, or that it's all "traffic" rather than "buying traffic": to me, this makes no sense at all.

        There are people starting threads (here and elsewhere) all the time saying "Article Marketing doesn't work any more". And when you look at what they're spinning and mass-submitting articles to article directories, using software, without even publishing them themselves first, and then sometimes further compounding the damage by putting their time, energy and resources into building backlinks to article directories instead of to their own sites. And naturally enough, quite a common conclusion from them to make, from their own experiences, is that "article marketing doesn't work any more". And they say so, right here, very repeatedly. :p

        What does this have to do with traffic exchanges? Well, it's an analogy: exactly the same thing's true of traffic exchanges, too, isn't it? They also "don't work" for people who don't know how to use them and are promoting products/services inappropriate to that sort of traffic.

        However many people say "this is untargeted traffic" and "keep away from this traffic", they can't change the fact that (as discussed here in several other threads) some Warriors are adding several hundred names per week to their lists, and making five-figure monthly incomes from this same traffic. Like everything else, it's what you make of it.
        Exactly what she said to a T! Well put Alexa, it's nice to meet you!
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    Alexa - THANK YOU! That was one of the best posts I have ever read in this forum in a long long time. =)
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  • Profile picture of the author renukoot
    Whoooo so much details about TE. I get to know many insights about this. Frankly I get some leads too from a TE. Not much but yes there are leads.
    jared dude - great analysis
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Q
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    Absolutely JUNK! There's no way that you are getting quality traffic there. I am still surprised that my friend is still using it to promote any sites or referral links to the PTC sites he joined......still his FAVORITE traffic source. Hahaha!

    As for most of us, we don't use these trash sources of traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
      Originally Posted by lamposproject View Post

      Absolutely JUNK! There's no way that you are getting quality traffic there. I am still surprised that my friend is still using it to promote any sites or referral links to the PTC sites he joined......still his FAVORITE traffic source. Hahaha!

      As for most of us, we don't use these trash sources of traffic.
      The best indication of knowing you are doing something right... haters.

      To each their own, still respect you as a fellow marketer.
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    • Profile picture of the author JaredSilver
      Originally Posted by lamposproject View Post

      Absolutely JUNK! There's no way that you are getting quality traffic there. I am still surprised that my friend is still using it to promote any sites or referral links to the PTC sites he joined......still his FAVORITE traffic source. Hahaha!

      As for most of us, we don't use these trash sources of traffic.
      Let me ask you a question:

      Do you have anything to back up what you're saying?

      Or are you just spreading rhetoric about an advertising source you don't know how to properly use?

      If email lists of thousands of active, engaged subscribers can be gotten from traffic exchanges, then what makes you say they are "trash" sources of traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    Ha ha ha ha How about you don't call someone's life work 'junk' and see if that gets a different reaction. Sir, I was defending my business, you started the 'attack' but yeah....Doesn't matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
      Originally Posted by Jon Olson View Post

      Ha ha ha ha How about you don't call someone's life work 'junk' and see if that gets a different reaction. Sir, I was defending my business, you started the 'attack' but yeah....Doesn't matter.
      My point is Jon that you are ANGRY at Warrior Forum and it comes over in your posts your frustrated with peoples perception of TE and instead of trying to educate people and advise them that there have been changes and treat people correct you take it personally and while YES i called it junk because that is what it was when I used it before but you have to suck it up my friend and instead of charging in like a bull in a china shop why not explain that things have changed and its more of a list builder now and branding of your product.

      That is my point, you alienated me instead of doing what your friend did and take the time to point out the Positives and get me to take another look and see the changes and advise how it used these days.

      Your approach is harsh and brash and that is not an attack, I am just saying how you come across, it looks like you may have something but if you attack everyone because they call your business junk all you do is alienate people more.

      If you educate people and ask them to give TE another shot as thigns have changed then I think you will be a lot more successful in getting people to give TE's another chance.

      I am glad I got into it with you, as I see the potential of the new TE and will give it a shot, but if John had not come into this thread then maybe I would of passed and still be bad mouthing TE instead of my point of view now which is willing to give it a shot.

      So next time someone calls your biz Junk take a deep breathe and be nice it will work a lot better for you.

      Good luck

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      • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
        You would be interested to know Gaz that Chris Ferrell's affiliates promote his programs across a vast majority of traffic exchanges daily.

        I don't know if he offers a list of traffic exchanges as possible affiliate venues along with the rest of his affiliate resources, but that is a good example of how more established marketers can leverage the exchanges to build their brand and business.

        Consider traffic exchange optimized squeeze or splash pages for affiliates to promote in hand selected traffic exchanges. In most cases you could earn commissions for those referrals, credits from those referrals surfing efforts, and tons of brand exposure for your products or services leveraged from their efforts.

        The audience is there in droves, it just takes that extra bit of research like it does with any traffic strategy to work out the best game plan. I worked along side Simon Leung back in 07 for a while and learned alot about adwords marketing, doesn't mean I got awesome results out the gate. It took tracking, testing, tweaking, and repeating
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    All the way back in 2000 I started using traffic exchanges and while at first yeah I made no money It was because I was focused on getting traffic and not about converting that traffic.

    Since then I have smartened up and now use them and even own and manage a few of them. Our members are pleased with the results and the training they get. They get conversions of leads for their business and money in pocket all from a free or even a paid source of advertising.

    While there are hundreds of traffic exchanges out there you do need to be careful what ones you use. Not all are created the same and not nearly managed as well as they should be. By finding the right exchanges to promote you squeeze pages and splash pages on you can build an income and make your first sale easier then you can with article marketing which I know many warriors on here are obsessed about.

    While I would never only use traffic exchanges to build my business (don't put all your eggs in one basket) it is a viable source of quality traffic for the making money online niche and does convert nicely.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
    @Patrickgriffin Awesome post, great story, and thank you for the kind words sir!
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  • Profile picture of the author ethicalernie
    Hmmm Do Traffic Exchanges Work??

    Yes they sure do if you use them properly.If you think that you can just sign up to a TE and throw a corporate splash page or capture page out there and you are going to have people running to sign up into your deal you are sadly mistaken.

    Do me a favor grab a stick tie a piece of string on it and put a hook on the end of it.Now go to your favorite fishing hole and see how many fish you catch.Probably not to many,you might get lucky and snag a few but you are not going to catch any.

    The TE's do work if you going into them with the mindset of branding yourself and building relationships by using them as another form of Social Media and STOP just blasting links out there.

    I myself have used them for over 7 years and have built teams into the 1,000's.Just like anything else,there is a right way and a wrong way.Remember this folks people join people!!!

    Bottom line is they do work...
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  • Profile picture of the author mfpsassy
    Ok I joined the te world 2 yrs ago. Nope not to get traffic to my site(s), I was doing alright with that playing in all the upcoming socializing sites. I joined cause my dad wanted me too at the time he was very ill due to the chemo he was getting for his cancer. So anything to keep dad happy I did. So I joined this site called startxchange, started chatting with dad & his friends there. The more I chatted the more people paid attention to my site, oh & hey it wasn't costing me anything to advertise there just chat & surf. Totally amazing like playing on facebook, myspace,mylot & yuwie click post click post click post. I have made many friends & built a pretty good following using te's especially the ones with chats. I did all this WITHOUT building a "list" Many of the people who follow me into programs I have never seen chat anywhere they are not all that social, but the watch the chats & friend feeds on the social sites They don't join these programs cause they are on page 1 in google, they don't join because someone is giving them a gift, They join because I joined they join because I like a site they join cause they see the results I get. They join because I let my true colors shine through I can be sweet as pie or mean as hell No false marketer here So far the haters I see in this thread are pushing ebooks autoresponders & gimicks to take a newbies money for as long as you can sucker them into paying for what ever you think is the newest hottest thing to market is that you spew will get them results & yea it gets them a few then peters out & they quit

    You are not going to convince those of us who have used te's for yrs & get results that they are junk cause we know better we know the long term results you get from te's can not be bought I personally do not use search sites to find programs so I will never see your site via that marketing technique I join them through te's & people I have met, know & have built a relationship with.

    Jon is very passionate about te's & over all online marketing I should know he & I had a meeting of the minds not all that long ago ourselves Had I been here earlier I would have been right there with him giving you what for. Though I din't join te's to get traffic to begin with I have learned a lot about marketing since I joined them & from what I see some of you could learn a few things yourself
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    • Profile picture of the author bloomingrose
      Dear mfpsassy:

      I am glad you supported your dad in whatever way you could. (I had chemo too and it was : memorable) Funny how you reaped rewards as well - I think initially the Internet was meant to be a true social animal.
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  • Profile picture of the author dirtmaster
    traffic exchangees can work i guess but only for some niches..
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  • Profile picture of the author nicolas simpson
    i'm was planning on do a bit of traffic exchange my self, however i changed my mind after i was told that its not so useful as 5 years ago. its slowly dying out now.
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    • Profile picture of the author mfpsassy
      Originally Posted by nicolas simpson View Post

      i'm was planning on do a bit of traffic exchange my self, however i changed my mind after i was told that its not so useful as 5 years ago. its slowly dying out now.
      They are not dying out they are growing daily They are becoming more & more social everyday they are more popular then forums People can market in real time They are even out doing paid to click sites
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
      Originally Posted by nicolas simpson View Post

      i'm was planning on do a bit of traffic exchange my self, however i changed my mind after i was told that its not so useful as 5 years ago. its slowly dying out now.
      Yea, that's wrong info. Every couple years folks say they are dying. They have been around since the beginning of the net and are still striving.

      Proof? Ever heard of Stumbleupon? Hmm social interaction with trading views of websites..... sounds familiar.
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  • Profile picture of the author msj484
    I tried this twice. Once in 2001 and once in 2007, and it was "JUNK" as already mentioned. You are better of using your time and resources on something that 10,000s of people agree actually works.
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    • Profile picture of the author taffie
      I want to believe they do work, but only when you work them correctly, check out this pdf and judge for yourself http://bit.ly/f7BW4t I hope you guys won't mind me sharing this.

      I had stopped using TE, but now I am thinking again, they can be great as they got well targeted traffic. Otherwise they wouldn't be there today.

      See what Mike say in that report, I am sure it will shed some light on even the new way of using Traffic Exchanges.

      Blessings!
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Abbott
      Originally Posted by msj484 View Post

      I tried this twice. Once in 2001 and once in 2007, and it was "JUNK" as already mentioned. You are better of using your time and resources on something that 10,000s of people agree actually works.
      Well over 10,000 people agree that TEs actually really work, because they get signups everyday of the week from them - those who use them right. So are you saying we are better off spending time with TEs?
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    • Traffic Exchange is good for collecting email
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    • Profile picture of the author maral
      Sorry to disagree with people who say TE's don't work. They work just fine if they are used properly to promote opps which attract TE surfers. You can't use them to promote high ticket items with any success.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Braybrooke
      If traffic exchanges don't work then why are there so many in existence? I have tried many and at the very least can report that many of them are incredibly entertaining to use! Good quality traffic? Hmmmm .... I really think it largely depends on how appealing your websites and displayed offers are.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ablaze
    To call something “complete JUNK” or “absolutely useless”

    Seems to me that would be the result you would receive. The fact is that most people with little or no success with traffic exchanges have one common factor among them all.

    Time and effort invested

    See I’m one of them strange people with a marketing background for not only yahoo but cars.com as well.

    And In my years in doing this professionally and as a full time retirement business I have learned that Branding is Hands down the most important effort you will put forth.

    I have had a great time reading this forum that I saw through a Social traffic exchange. So do they work

    YES!! that’s How I returned to WF after being gone for a while


    And that’s my traffic exchange 2 cents
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  • Alright, might as well join in on the TE Elite discussion today.

    Traffic exchanges, like others have said, are completely useless.... IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THEM.

    For those few of us that do know how to use them, they are a literal goldmine.

    Social interaction, personal branding, and yes... List building are all key points to using a traffic exchange. For all of you that say you have used it before and it was completely junk traffic, let me ask you this... What were you promoting to the community? Was it a squeeze page? Maybe most of you were promoting affiliate offers? Let's hear this answer? lol

    At any point, I recall someone asking about traffic exchanges converting. Let me give you my story.

    Around a month ago, I created a squeeze page for a wordpress related item. I'm not going to give exact details on it, but that was the niche.

    The very day that I created that squeeze page and got the funnel set up (follow up messages, download links working, etc..) I posted that same exact squeeze page in a traffic exchange, Thumbvu to be exact owned by John Guanzon (Listed above).

    Within a week of the campaign being active, I had 20 subscribers in it. The very first subscriber that got my first promotional offer (third follow up letter) converted into sale for a PLR Membership site known as Resell Rights Weekly. With this being the Warrior Forum, many of you know about it.

    Well, here is the thing. That sale not only landed me an upgraded member at RRW but 5 other subscribers converted on my OTO for $9.

    Let's do the math so far: $9X5 = $45 +$13.50 (RRW Commission) that adds up to $58.50

    In addition to this, I have done 1 broadcast for the OTO after the subscribed. It was at a higher price of $27. I managed to get two sales out of 30 subscribers thus far.

    So let's add this up again... $58.50 + $27X2 = $112.50

    That's pure profit folks... I spent about an hour surfing every other day, I interact with the members, and I only used a total of 2000 credits that first two weeks.

    Yes, it's not a whole lot of money. But tell me this, when your first starting out (or even for some marketers that has been around for a year or so) how many of you can Honestly say that you made $100 doing very little work for two weeks?

    This was entirely set and forget it (so to speak). I set my campaign, and two weeks later I have around $100 in my paypal from that same campaign. The only interaction I have had was maybe 1 or two hours every other day and that wasn't even for the campaign. That was just me surfing to kill some time!

    Back to the main point, Traffic exchanges work when you properly use them. If you don't then yes, it's junk traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author JerryIannucci
    I have been using traffic exchanges on and off since 2002.

    There was a lot of "off" during that time because like most people I wasn't getting the results proportionate to the effort I was putting into them. That isn't because traffic exchanges don't work, it's just that I did not know how to take advantage of them effectively.

    Are traffic exchanges targeted traffic? It depends on what you are marketing. If you are trying to sell tennis rackets then no, traffic exchanges are going to be a waste of time for you. However, if you are promoting something that targets the work from home, mlm, free traffic, affiliate marketing, etc audience.. then traffic exchanges are highly targeted.

    Traffic exchanges are incentivised traffic. The people coming to your site are generally not there looking for what you are selling, they are mostly there trying to earn enough credits to get their own sites seen. But they are seeing your sites! Your goal is to show them something that is going to make them stop and take action. If you don't know how to do this than I can understand why you would think traffic exchanges don't work.

    I will also say that traffic exchanges are probably not for everybody. I tried article marketing for awhile. For me, it wasn't worth the effort. Does that mean article marketing doesn't work? No, it just means I am not willing to put in the effort to make it work for me. But I won't tell people not to use article marketing just because I didn't get good results from it.

    Traffic exchanges do work if you put in the effort to learn how to use them effectively. Over the last year many traffic exchanges have been stepping up to embrace social networking making them an even better way to get in front of potential customers and build a relationship that can become very profitable.

    I think ignoring the potential that traffic exchanges can offer would be a huge mistake for any Internet marketer.
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  • Profile picture of the author JustinLedvina
    What would it take to show the nay sayers that traffic exchanges should be part of their advertising arsenal?

    Obviously me telling you that I earn a strong six figure income from them won't do anything to change your mind. Or the fact I've leverage them for 1/3 of a million members in my programs.

    Lets be honest with each other, I know all the stats in the world won't make a squat of difference. You're like me and want to see results for yourself and not what marketer A B or C has done. I agree, who cares how well I do with them this is about you and how well you can do with them.

    Give me the chance to prove that the ugly girl from band camp you remembered is now smoking hot. Worst that can happen is you come back here and tell everyone Justin Ledvina is so full of his own BS that I had to burn my shoes from stepping so deep in it! or maybe you find a new advertising source that's cheap and easy to use.

    I put my money where my mouth is so lets find a nay sayer and turn them into a TE nerd.
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    • Profile picture of the author JaredSilver
      Originally Posted by JustinLedvina View Post

      What would it take to show the nay sayers that traffic exchanges should be part of their advertising arsenal?

      Obviously me telling you that I earn a strong six figure income from them won't do anything to change your mind. Or the fact I've leverage them for 1/3 of a million members in my programs.

      Lets be honest with each other, I know all the stats in the world won't make a squat of difference. You're like me and want to see results for yourself and not what marketer A B or C has done. I agree, who cares how well I do with them this is about you and how well you can do with them.

      Give me the chance to prove that the ugly girl from band camp you remembered is now smoking hot. Worst that can happen is you come back here and tell everyone Justin Ledvina is so full of his own BS that I had to burn my shoes from stepping so deep in it! or maybe you find a new advertising source that's cheap and easy to use.

      I put my money where my mouth is so lets find a nay sayer and turn them into a TE nerd.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    What they all said above LOL

    Couldn't have said it better Marie, Hilbert, James, Jerry, Justin, Patrick, et all....Kudos to everyone who has seen that these programs can be massively successful if you used them properly.

    We get about 1000 new members into our programs every week alone...Dying? Not at all, they have been the most steady advertising resource the internet has ever seen.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
    Originally Posted by Jeff Hope View Post

    Hi John - Chris doesn't teach or endorse traffic exchanges as a traffic source. Quite the opposite really, as he and all the support team actively discourage it. That's because we think Chris' members can get better results for their time following the methods that Chris does teach.

    Jeff
    Hey Jeff, yea I wasn't sure. I just noticed Chris's name on Gaz's blog in the about section and remembered seeing his sites in the exchanges. Which roughly translates to if he had contacted me about a JV of any sort or I saw a JV for him I would prob give it consideration based on that fact alone simply because his members are using traffic exchanges.

    At least that is for me, it's hard to believe that Chris isn't getting any response from his members promoting in the te's with the amount of times I have seen it in rotation. The branding is powerful, so much so it is happening whether he knows it or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author darrenolander
    I see a couple big factors to your success with TE's. There is no question that they work... I have built a large list from using them, as have many in this thread. So the question is:

    1) Know-How. Have you given yourself the opportunity to learn the strategies to make it work? With any traffic method, you can't just jump into it and expect to receive results.. or you would end up saying Article Marketing doesn't work, Facebook ads don't work, Google PPC doesn't work... to say they don't is absurd. I never say something doesn't work because I realize with common sense that if others are using it successfully then I must be doing something wrong.

    2) Choice of TE. Not all TEs are created equal.. there are many TEs that unfortunately give the industry a bad name because they allow cheaters to run over their site, they are mismanaged, etc. If you deal with sites run by quality owners and high REAL traffic you will be in great shape.

    Traffic Exchanges are a source of a lot of cheap traffic. Don't expect your conversions to be 50% or higher like you would from other traffic sources, but due to the volume you can get just as many if not more subscribers and sales for your $ or time, making your ROI worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
    Originally Posted by Jeff Hope View Post



    1) How do you isolate, and prevent, bot clicks (scripted, automated clicks where no human ever sees the destination site). Do you tell your users that these are possible, that they may not truly get a one-for-one view of sites from another person? With tools like Ubot Studio available, how would you ever distinguish a click originating from that from one of my own?

    2) When I study the country of origin for traffic originating from various exchanges, the vast majority is from China, Russia, and Ukraine. Why would that be? Are they statistically more interested in traffic than people from other countries?

    Jeff
    1) Nothing is free from being hacked or cheated online. But that doesn't mean that serious owners are not taking strides to keep it from happening and making sure that when it does, it's quickly handled and taken care of.
    While I could get into semantics and tactics for stopping these kinds of things, I won't. Don't need to make the cheaters jobs easier.

    2) Not all TE's are created equal, neither is the traffic delivered by said traffic exchanges. It's up to due diligence of the user. If you want to see if a traffic exchange is receiving more US traffic over other countries that is as easy as doing a stats search similar to this:

    thumbvu.com (thumbvu-com) - thumbvu.com | Site Overview

    Some traffic exchanges allow you to choose what traffic you will receive by geo-targeting features along with time frames.

    If you decide to try a traffic exchange just Google it and see what others are saying about it first. If they are not saying anything, then chances are that particular one isn't worth your time.

    The TE's worth your time won't have owners telling you that they are, they will have satisfied members and customers telling you so.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Pollina
      Hi Jon, John, et al.

      Just finished this thread and all I can say is MEGA DITTOS!

      I am a casual user of TEs since 2002 and I for one can sayt that they DO work if applied correctly.

      Thanks everyone for the lively debate.
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    Originally Posted by JaredSilver View Post

    Salutations all.

    I was just wondering what your thoughts on this topic are.

    Traffic exchanges have been around since about the same time as Google, and hundreds of thousands of people use them every week.

    I know, like everything else in internet marketing, that there is an art and a science to getting them to work properly.

    What are your thoughts on traffic exchanges?

    Do they work?

    What is your experience with them?

    Thanks!
    In short...NO...they don't work..the traffic is completely non-targeted...i.e. non-profitable...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
      Originally Posted by thebitbotdotcom View Post

      In short...NO...they don't work..the traffic is completely non-targeted...i.e. non-profitable...
      Cool, what's your username in ILoveHits, StartXchange and Sweeva....I'll look your account up and see if I can suggest some techniques to help you get better results.
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      • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
        Originally Posted by Jon Olson View Post

        Cool, what's your username in ILoveHits, StartXchange and Sweeva....I'll look your account up and see if I can suggest some techniques to help you get better results.
        No thanks...I'm good, friend...SEO or IM niches are great for these types of things, but that's about it...thanks for the offer, fellow warrior...
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
      Originally Posted by thebitbotdotcom View Post

      In short...NO...they don't work..the traffic is completely non-targeted...i.e. non-profitable...
      Would be easier to believe if you have tried them before.



      But thank you for proving the point that some folks may simply be quick on the draw based only on what they have heard.
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      • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
        Originally Posted by JohnGuanzon View Post

        Would be easier to believe if you have tried them before.

        Important relevant note...September 2010...outdated info...sorry...

        Bonus points for research though...that really IS impressive...you are thorough...what is your day job...?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    Originally Posted by Jeff Hope View Post


    1) How do you isolate, and prevent, bot clicks (scripted, automated clicks where no human ever sees the destination site). Do you tell your users that these are possible, that they may not truly get a one-for-one view of sites from another person? With tools like Ubot Studio available, how would you ever distinguish a click originating from that from one of my own?

    2) When I study the country of origin for traffic originating from various exchanges, the vast majority is from China, Russia, and Ukraine. Why would that be? Are they statistically more interested in traffic than people from other countries?

    I met Jon a few years ago, and yes, he seems like a nice guy. That doesn't make the traffic exchange industry as a whole pure as the driven snow.

    Jeff
    I smell good too *lol* j/k

    1. Cheating will always be around. No matter what the script, the avenue, the resource....Scum bags will always try to take away from the value of a community. It happens in SEO, it happens everywhere. Savvy owners handle 'cheating'. We at TimTech for example have 3 full time programmers who are always on the look our for bots, etc...

    When we find em, we zap em. We have security in place but it will always be around. Fact remains. 99.9% of the members in traffic exchanges are good people.

    2. I haven't banned a country and never will. I in fact secured a 5 figure deal the other month from a customer in India. Plus I have paying clients in the traffic exchanges from around the globe.

    I ban people, not countries. So again, savvy owners will be on the look out. all the time. It's a full time gig and a passion I have for this business. I'm very active in surf and it the social chats, always looking for the good and unfortunately, the bad.

    All in all, T.E.'s aren't perfect. I don't think anyone would say they are. But they aren't these untargetted bru-ha ha's they've had the reputation for being.

    They have evolved over the decade. =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    Again.....Someone who has never used them...Saying they suck LOL

    I love this job
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    • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
      Originally Posted by Jon Olson View Post

      Again.....Someone who has never used them...Saying they suck LOL

      I love this job
      Maybe you should have refreshed this thread before you made this comment.

      I have used them "since then" with NO conversions...

      Honestly...I wish that wasn't the case...

      I wish it wasn't "paid clickers" from Russia viewing my site...i.e. visitors with nothing better to do...
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
        Originally Posted by thebitbotdotcom View Post

        Maybe you should have refreshed this thread before you made this comment.

        I have used them "since then" with NO conversions...

        Honestly...I wish that wasn't the case...

        I wish it wasn't "paid clickers" from Russia viewing my site...i.e. visitors with nothing better to do...

        Please share what you promoted, we can help offer some ideas as to why you may not have gotten conversions. Some opinions on what may work better.

        I have no doubt you got no conversions, but don't be so quick to blame the blue ray player when you are attempting to put 8traks in it.
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      • Originally Posted by thebitbotdotcom View Post

        Maybe you should have refreshed this thread before you made this comment.

        I have used them "since then" with NO conversions...

        Honestly...I wish that wasn't the case...

        I wish it wasn't "paid clickers" from Russia viewing my site...i.e. visitors with nothing better to do...
        Howdy Bit Bot,

        What traffic exchanges did you use exactly? Just curious from the "paid clickers from Russia" comment...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    Again, that's an interesting statement. Most of my members are from North America but even if they were from Russia, who cares. This is the internet, it's kinda a global thing.

    And I don't offer 'cash for surfing' that's silly and in my opinion, not what a traffic exchange is.

    But hey, whatever works for you. I'm sure it's going great no matter what it is. =)
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    • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
      Originally Posted by Jon Olson View Post

      Again, that's an interesting statement. Most of my members are from North America but even if they were from Russia, who cares. This is the internet, it's kinda a global thing.

      But hey, whatever works for you. I'm sure it's going great no matter what it is. =)
      I am not looking for an argument... if you have a suggestion, I am all ears... I am certainly wiling to try it again...

      If you have a suggestion, I am willing to try it...TheBitBot SEM Blog - Home Of The Spindication Directory

      I am always looking for relevant sources of traffic and I am not prejudice as to their origin...it's all SEO, brother...
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
        Originally Posted by thebitbotdotcom View Post

        I am not looking for an argument... if you have a suggestion, I am all ears... I am certainly wiling to try it again...

        If you have a suggestion, I am willing to try it...TheBitBot SEM Blog - Home Of The Spindication Directory

        I am always looking for relevant sources of traffic and I am not prejudice as to their origin...it's all SEO, brother...
        Ok cool, so that is the page you want to promote?

        Things to consider...

        The visitor to your site has 10 to 30 seconds to view your page. With a page that has that much content they will just pass it by in that time.

        Also with bounce rates, I am certain you want a higher bounce rate for your main directory which is fine.

        My suggestion is creating a simple page we call "splash pages" this just text or image that states a few key points:

        What you have, what it does for them, and how they can get/see it

        When they click the call to action (How they get it) they are then taken to your page you listed above and it opens in a new page. This way they have your page open in a new window or tab and can then look at it at their convenience when they are done surfing for credits. That is if your page did it's job of standing out from the other pages in rotation and has clearly called to them with "the what it does for them" aspect of your copy.

        If you want to use a squeeze page instead so you gather leads and then can use a follow up series to tell them about your site you can do that too, works the same way as the splash page you are just using an optin form as your call to action.

        Points to consider for standing out:

        Video/audio/crisp graphics work wonders

        For an idea of what is already in the traffic exchanges you can surf a few pages to get an idea what folks are doing, create a swipe file of screen shots for splashes and squeezes that personally get your attention.

        Next thing is above the fold pages. If you create a squeeze or splash to go into rotation in the traffic exchanges, keep the pages above the fold, this means no having to scroll down the page to see any of it. Remember you want them to see your whole message within the time frame of the surf bar.

        I hope that helps.
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        • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
          Originally Posted by JohnGuanzon View Post

          Ok cool, so that is the page you want to promote?

          Things to consider...

          The visitor to your site has 10 to 30 seconds to view your page. With a page that has that much content they will just pass it by in that time.

          Also with bounce rates, I am certain you want a higher bounce rate for your main directory which is fine.

          My suggestion is creating a simple page we call "splash pages" this just text or image that states a few key points:

          What you have, what it does for them, and how they can get/see it

          When they click the call to action (How they get it) they are then taken to your page you listed above and it opens in a new page. This way they have your page open in a new window or tab and can then look at it at their convenience when they are done surfing for credits. That is if your page did it's job of standing out from the other pages in rotation and has clearly called to them with "the what it does for them" aspect of your copy.

          If you want to use a squeeze page instead so you gather leads and then can use a follow up series to tell them about your site you can do that too, works the same way as the splash page you are just using an optin form as your call to action.

          Points to consider for standing out:

          Video/audio/crisp graphics work wonders

          For an idea of what is already in the traffic exchanges you can surf a few pages to get an idea what folks are doing, create a swipe file of screen shots for splashes and squeezes that personally get your attention.

          Next thing is above the fold pages. If you create a squeeze or splash to go into rotation in the traffic exchanges, keep the pages above the fold, this means no having to scroll down the page to see any of it. Remember you want them to see your whole message within the time frame of the surf bar.

          I hope that helps.
          It does help, John..Interesting tips...thanks...
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          • Originally Posted by thebitbotdotcom View Post

            It does help, John..Interesting tips...thanks...

            If you use a video, be sure to put it on autoplay.

            Also, as stated earlier.. Personal branding is key
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            • Profile picture of the author patrickgriffin
              To me, one thing is crystal clear from this thread; whether you are a traffic exchange veteran, a traffic exchange newbie, a traffic exchange skeptic or a traffic exchange hater, there are owners around like Jon Olson, John Guanzon, Hilbert Gavel (and many others) who want to help you succeed.

              Not only are Jon, John and Hilbert prepared to go the extra mile to help anyone willing to give traffic exchanges a decent shot of promoting themselves and their products but so are the growing army of TE users who also look out for, help and encourage other users.

              And kudos to those on this thread who began with a negative view of TEs and are now willing to look again with fresh eyes and see how things have changed over in that exciting corner of the internet known as TE land.

              Patrick.
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              • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
                Originally Posted by patrickgriffin View Post

                To me, one thing is crystal clear from this thread; whether you are a traffic exchange veteran, a traffic exchange newbie, a traffic exchange skeptic or a traffic exchange hater, there are owners around like Jon Olson, John Guanzon, Hilbert Gavel (and many others) who want to help you succeed.
                Yup.

                Originally Posted by patrickgriffin View Post

                Not only are Jon, John and Hilbert prepared to go the extra mile to help anyone willing to give traffic exchanges a decent shot of promoting themselves and their products but so are the growing army of TE users who also look out for, help and encourage other users.
                Thank you for the kind words Patrick!

                Originally Posted by patrickgriffin View Post

                And kudos to those on this thread who began with a negative view of TEs and are now willing to look again with fresh eyes and see how things have changed over in that exciting corner of the internet known as TE land.

                Patrick.
                I agree!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    I'm not arguing, I'm just debating the validity of traffic exchanges =) I just come across strong because it's all passion behind the keyboard. Been this way since birth lol

    Anyways, if you are looking for a blog promotion....I'd recommend something very solid like ThumbVu and Sweeva. They are traffic exchanges, but with the social side of it being the most important aspect of it.

    It will take time, you will need to build some social 'capital' in the communities, but if you do it...I know both exchanges THRIVE for new blog entries. I bookmark and revisit almost every blog I see when I'm surfing Sweeva.

    Give it a shot, you may be surprised. And oh yeah, nothing I do, or even John Guanzon does, is related to 'cash for surfing'....We are owners of social communities for advertisers.
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    • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
      Originally Posted by Jon Olson View Post

      I'm not arguing, I'm just debating the validity of traffic exchanges =) I just come across strong because it's all passion behind the keyboard. Been this way since birth lol

      Anyways, if you are looking for a blog promotion....I'd recommend something very solid like ThumbVu and Sweeva. They are traffic exchanges, but with the social side of it being the most important aspect of it.

      It will take time, you will need to build some social 'capital' in the communities, but if you do it...I know both exchanges THRIVE for new blog entries. I bookmark and revisit almost every blog I see when I'm surfing Sweeva.

      Give it a shot, you may be surprised. And oh yeah, nothing I do, or even John Guanzon does, is related to 'cash for surfing'....We are owners of social communities for advertisers.
      Thanks for the tip, bro. I will definitely check it out...

      I have learned to take NOTHING for granted...
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  • Profile picture of the author insidmal
    I almost didn't reply here because as a traffic exchange owner with vested interest I of course want to make it sound like the end all be all.. but I am getting a feel from this conversation that it was turning into TE's VS. SEO & CPA Advertising.. in which I would like to throw a couple cents..

    One thing I dislike about sectors of this industry is that so many what could be valuable discussions turn into an A Or B style conversation and a "Us" vs "Them"

    I have had years of success with CPA Advertising, and you can't argue the traffic generation and quality of properly SEO'd pages, Search Engines provide my highest converting traffic sources...

    Traffic Exchanges are just another tool for your belt, they take time to master, just like CPA and SEO, but are a great low cost alternative.. do they provide the conversion rates of SEO and CPA? Not a chance, but they CAN be very effective once understood and WILL generate conversions at little to no cost to you...

    SEO & CPA Advertising work awesome.. Traffic Exchanges can work great too, but just like with all other forms of advertising you need to know and understand your target audience and demographic and tailor and split test your advertising to improve results... I love and will continue to love TE's as well as CPA advertising along with safelists, text ad exchanges list builders, and all other forms of marketing.. as long as I can get a single conversion, I will do it until I don't...

    I'm sure you remember your first Google Adwords campaign where you flipped $60 without a single sale... Ouch! Did you give up though? No, you refined your ads and flipped another $60 and got 2 conversions... and went uphill from there... Traffic Exchanges are the same, except you can flip $5-$10 on 1k hits.. and sure your first few packs of credits you buy may lead you know where, tracking and understanding your results can lead your next set of credits to give you a conversions..

    As Mr. Guanzon said above with some great advice for making pages work on traffic exchanges.. you have to realize that people are there because they want to generate free traffic to THEIR sites... don't try and sell them a baseball glove, that's not why they are there..

    Create a site that loads fast and gets their attention in that 10 second window they will see it, just enough to get them to click it and open in a new tab for them to check out later..

    If you are trying out traffic exchanges, don't expect results at first.. just like you wouldn't expect results on your first CPA campaign, or the first day you start to SEO your page.. but give it time, be adaptive and always track, and before you know it you will discover a huge responsive market waiting to buy your products..

    Segregating your advertising to only 1 or 2 mediums is never a good idea, weather it be TE's Only or SEO/CPA Only.. If you are someone who only uses TE's, throw $50 at CPA and try it out.. if you are only using SEO/CPA then throw $50 at TE's and try it out.. it can't hurt to try something new and spend some time with it and tinkering with it, you might be surprised..

    And How can I talk this long about Traffic Exchanges without my own shameless self promotion? I own 1 that is very branding and social-centric called Traffic Swirl at trafficswirl.com and then another that is the polar opposite, very simple distraction free advertising called Fast Cash & Traffic at fastcashandtraffic.com

    I invite you guys here that normally don't use Traffic Exchanges to go and check them out, Contact the support desk at either one and let me know you are from here and I'll give you some free credits and upgrades to try it out - I think you will be surprised at how good Traffic Exchanges can actually be if you put the time into it.

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  • Profile picture of the author LIEWnetwork
    If not concern about SEO or CPA, I think link exchange can give you the popularity if you share with same interest or community, like I have seen via blog communities.
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  • Profile picture of the author morda111
    I have been following this thread since it started and all I can say is WOW! I've viewed many threads on many forums with this topic (or similar ones). But this time I am impressed.

    Instead of this thread dissolving into a mindless rant about why TEs do or do not work, I am seeing people changing their minds and actually saying they may give them another chance. Again, WOW!

    I should say I do not own a Traffic Exchange, but I do use them and I do get sign ups. Not as many as the big guys out there, but enough to keep me happy. I'm just a granny with too much time on her hands that needs a little extra each month without having to learn how to do all sorts of new things and can't spend money to get it done.

    I should also say, I do NOT use TEs correctly! ROFL Yep, that's right. I do not have a splash page or squeeze page, no video, picture or even my name on my site (unless you want to count my username). Hmmm, it is all above the fold though. LOL I do it all wrong but, I still get results because I am social.

    I do believe that TEs work and work well if you are willing to make them work. If you don't have time to be social, then you should be using splash/squeeze pages, videos, personal pic and your name on those pages. But all in all, TEs DO work if you take the time to learn how to use them to your advantage.
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    • Profile picture of the author patrickgriffin
      Originally Posted by morda111 View Post

      I have been following this thread since it started and all I can say is WOW! I've viewed many threads on many forums with this topic (or similar ones). But this time I am impressed.

      Instead of this thread dissolving into a mindless rant about why TEs do or do not work, I am seeing people changing their minds and actually saying they may give them another chance. Again, WOW!

      I should say I do not own a Traffic Exchange, but I do use them and I do get sign ups. Not as many as the big guys out there, but enough to keep me happy. I'm just a granny with too much time on her hands that needs a little extra each month without having to learn how to do all sorts of new things and can't spend money to get it done.

      I should also say, I do NOT use TEs correctly! ROFL Yep, that's right. I do not have a splash page or squeeze page, no video, picture or even my name on my site (unless you want to count my username). Hmmm, it is all above the fold though. LOL I do it all wrong but, I still get results because I am social.

      I do believe that TEs work and work well if you are willing to make them work. If you don't have time to be social, then you should be using splash/squeeze pages, videos, personal pic and your name on those pages. But all in all, TEs DO work if you take the time to learn how to use them to your advantage.
      Hi Morda111,
      You are not doing it all wrong as you say but perhaps you could do a little bit better. I'm willing to bet that if you put your name and photo on your pages you would have people looking to spot you...and some of those would sign up to your offer.

      One thing you have nailed though is the importance of being social online and that counts for a lot. Most people don't even get that being social is easy...you just have to be yourself and chat a bit.

      And yes, isn't it so great and utterly refreshing that this thread has not turned into yet another mindless excuse for abuse and discord?

      Thanks for adding to the thread on here and why don't you let us know which TE's you use most so we can look out for you online.

      Patrick.
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      • Profile picture of the author morda111
        Thank you so much for your kind words, Patrick! I only posted because I felt the opinion of a nobody was needed. There were so many names in this thread that I recognized as the movers and shakers of the industry.

        I know I could do better, but I'm not out to work full-time online or make a million bucks. I do my "work" in the morning and surf and chat a bit in the afternoon/evening. Once in awhile, I post a blog on a social site. My "ugly" site is a freebie that uses a standard template, but its easy for me to use and it does load very quickly. Also, it is obviously mine when they see the name of the site in the top left corner. hehehe I'm not interested in how to use html or any of the other letters involved in web design. (hehehe small attempt at humor there)

        I surf at some very small TEs that have a chat on the surf and also try to squeeze in time to surf at ILH, RoyalSurf and Blue-Surf. I also follow several blogs like Jon's HEN Report, Tim Linden and others. I know what I should be doing to get even better results, but just am not motivated enough to learn everything or spend the money to be able to do that. Also, I have no desire for a list. I hate selling to people. LOL

        Thanks so much for the offer of help but I am content with the results I get now and they really are amazing considering how little I put into it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    i dont think traffic exchange works besides for faking alexa ranking and building a list if you advertising a landing page or squeeze page
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    • Profile picture of the author morda111
      Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

      i dont think traffic exchange works besides for faking alexa ranking and building a list if you advertising a landing page or squeeze page
      I couldn't care less about alexa rankings (real or fake) and have no interest in a list either, but the traffic exchanges work for me and get me referrals in many programs. It can be difficult to find the exchanges that work for what you are offering, but that is why tracking is so important with any advertising campaign. That way you know what works and where it works. Not every campaign will preform the same at each exchange. You need to know your audience and pick and choose what you advertise and how you advertise it, depending on where you are advertising it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
        Originally Posted by morda111 View Post

        I couldn't care less about alexa rankings (real or fake) and have no interest in a list either, but the traffic exchanges work for me and get me referrals in many programs. It can be difficult to find the exchanges that work for what you are offering, but that is why tracking is so important with any advertising campaign. That way you know what works and where it works. Not every campaign will preform the same at each exchange. You need to know your audience and pick and choose what you advertise and how you advertise it, depending on where you are advertising it.
        im glad to know it works, im surprised to know it provided you referrals. I think i also need to start trying those, thanks.
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        • Profile picture of the author morda111
          Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

          im glad to know it works, im surprised to know it provided you referrals. I think i also need to start trying those, thanks.
          I should tell you most of my referrals came from me being social on traffic exchanges, just chatting with people about everyday stuff and offering opinions when asked. If you scroll up to my previous posts, you will see that I don't do what most say you must to succeed in traffic exchanges. But being friendly, chatty and helpful can do wonders for you as long as you are on a traffic exchange with a chat.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ablaze
      Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

      i dont think traffic exchange works besides for faking alexa ranking and building a list if you advertising a landing page or squeeze page
      You said I don't think traffic exchanges work.

      Have you tryed Thumbvu, Sweeva, or IT? I can almost bet Jon and John will both agree Alexa Rank is worth nothing to me.


      But to say "I don't think" leads me to believe you are not using traffic just listening to what others are saying and not trying it out for your self.

      Justin said it the best Traffic exchanges Have evolved more in the last year or so than they have in the last 10.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    That's a really good point James.

    The social aspect of these programs is now much more important than a 'page view alone'...

    However, combine your creative advertising WITH a social reputation in the traffic exchanges, you are seeing some MASSIVE results across the board.

    I would agree...More has been done in a year with these programs than in the past 10. And it starts with it's member base!
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  • Profile picture of the author Easy Cash
    Traffic Exchanges are a bit like a billboard on the side of the road - they sell product, however;

    - the product probably needs to be something that everyone may potentially buy - i.e. not a narrow niche product.

    - they potentially generate 'leads' for broad mainstream products.

    For example, it may be hard to sell a specific part for a car using a traffic exchange, but you might be able to generate leads for an everyday product.

    Where as getting traffic through SEO and Search Engines will get a much more targeted customer and one that is probably more of a 'hot lead' in that it is likely they will convert to 'customer' easier.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    Gez why is everyone so hung up on one form of traffic. Im here to tell you if your not using traffic exchanges for building your list (granted its IM, making money online related,blogging etc) Your missing out on sales and leads and well that for one I think is just stupid. If you want to grow your business you need to use a number of methods of to drive traffic to your pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author igorGriffiths
      I have fallen in and out of love with TE's over the 4 years I have been online and until recently things had remained pretty much static.

      The only things that should be on TE's are things that make traffic generation easier, that is after all the only reason for them existing, hence the name. No point putting up long pages of boring text about anything else, I am only on your tab for 3 seconds.

      Recently I have joined a program that has made me realise that when you use all of the features in the TE's things become far more powerful and since doing this I have started to see results, its not always about the splash page.
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  • Profile picture of the author stellarbizop
    I think this would only work for freebies. People would not really pay for it thus conversion is little if there's any substance.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
      Originally Posted by stellarbizop View Post

      I think this would only work for freebies. People would not really pay for it thus conversion is little if there's any substance.
      That's just it.

      1) Offer your free incentives for getting folks in the door (build your list).

      2) Build your relationship with them via the follow up with that list along with segmenting as needed.

      3) Provide educated and useful recommendations for products or services your subscribers want netting you sales at this point in the process.

      That's basic list building 101.

      Enter the social traffic networks angle which allow you to start the relationship and segmenting process before folks even get on your list, saving you time in the long run, and increasing your results on the backend.

      Is that the only way to do it? No.

      You can do the same thing with Facebook, Adwords, Articles, Etc...

      But if the audience is there as with the other forms of traffic, why not take advantage of that knowledge?
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    • Originally Posted by stellarbizop View Post

      I think this would only work for freebies. People would not really pay for it thus conversion is little if there's any substance.
      Refer to this:

      Originally Posted by Skid_Roe View Post

      Alright, might as well join in on the TE Elite discussion today.

      Traffic exchanges, like others have said, are completely useless.... IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THEM.

      For those few of us that do know how to use them, they are a literal goldmine.

      Social interaction, personal branding, and yes... List building are all key points to using a traffic exchange. For all of you that say you have used it before and it was completely junk traffic, let me ask you this... What were you promoting to the community? Was it a squeeze page? Maybe most of you were promoting affiliate offers? Let's hear this answer? lol

      At any point, I recall someone asking about traffic exchanges converting. Let me give you my story.

      Around a month ago, I created a squeeze page for a wordpress related item. I'm not going to give exact details on it, but that was the niche.

      The very day that I created that squeeze page and got the funnel set up (follow up messages, download links working, etc..) I posted that same exact squeeze page in a traffic exchange, Thumbvu to be exact owned by John Guanzon (Listed above).

      Within a week of the campaign being active, I had 20 subscribers in it. The very first subscriber that got my first promotional offer (third follow up letter) converted into sale for a PLR Membership site known as Resell Rights Weekly. With this being the Warrior Forum, many of you know about it.

      Well, here is the thing. That sale not only landed me an upgraded member at RRW but 5 other subscribers converted on my OTO for $9.

      Let's do the math so far: $9X5 = $45 +$13.50 (RRW Commission) that adds up to $58.50

      In addition to this, I have done 1 broadcast for the OTO after the subscribed. It was at a higher price of $27. I managed to get two sales out of 30 subscribers thus far.

      So let's add this up again... $58.50 + $27X2 = $112.50

      That's pure profit folks... I spent about an hour surfing every other day, I interact with the members, and I only used a total of 2000 credits that first two weeks.

      Yes, it's not a whole lot of money. But tell me this, when your first starting out (or even for some marketers that has been around for a year or so) how many of you can Honestly say that you made $100 doing very little work for two weeks?

      This was entirely set and forget it (so to speak). I set my campaign, and two weeks later I have around $100 in my paypal from that same campaign. The only interaction I have had was maybe 1 or two hours every other day and that wasn't even for the campaign. That was just me surfing to kill some time!

      Back to the main point, Traffic exchanges work when you properly use them. If you don't then yes, it's junk traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Traffic exchanges used to work, but unfortunately the search engines look down on it, and could get your site penalised
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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
      Originally Posted by dagaul101 View Post

      Traffic exchanges used to work, but unfortunately the search engines look down on it, and could get your site penalised
      Used to work? I got about 1000 new members in my traffic exchanges this week alone.

      Far from it. Traffic exchanges grow by leaps and bounds every single week. They are perfect places to find newer marketers *hint*
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    Freebies? Ive made the bulk of my income from traffic exchanges and its a nice sum of money per year that keeps growing. So it can't only be for freebies. That was how I got started and made me the affiliate marketer, site owner and product creator I am today lol
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
    I think that many people here are missing the whole point about targeted traffic and conversions, and need to think like a real offline advertising company.

    I mean how do the owners of the billboards you see everyday at the side of the road manage to sell advertising space?

    It's all about branding and getting people to recognise your product when in a store that that sells your product. In the case of TE's you can do this by putting your face and logo in as many places as possible and try your hardest to get the email address and then use email marketing to show why your worth listening to.

    Now if you're only presence on the internet is some random affiliate links then you will definately get **** results marketing on TE's, the way you would get **** results spending time and effort on any other source of traffic.

    Please think about setting up a marketing funnel first and then add traffic. If you have a good funnel in place and the results are rubbish then you can blame the traffic source.

    For example my funnel for safelist traffic makes hundred of dollars per month and I switched over to adswaps traffic. The number of leads being generated went through the roof, but the quality of my list dropped and none of these people I was adding were interested in what I was selling.

    Moral of the story - match your offer to the traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author uebomoyi
    I'd definitely steer clear of traffic exchanges. The only traffic I trust are certified solo ad companies that will deliver it to your squeeze page and then SEO traffic since the user is looking for a particular item. I remember I once got scammed by a company that said they would deliver all of my traffic for me and I lost a lot of money. I definitely learned my lesson though...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
      Originally Posted by uebomoyi View Post

      I'd definitely steer clear of traffic exchanges. The only traffic I trust are certified solo ad companies that will deliver it to your squeeze page and then SEO traffic since the user is looking for a particular item. I remember I once got scammed by a company that said they would deliver all of my traffic for me and I lost a lot of money. I definitely learned my lesson though...
      What you are describing, is not a traffic exchange.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    maybe new marketers, but I would not be expecting a home hitting run.

    More into solid solo ads. Targeted tarffic and has been giving me some good results.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      maybe new marketers, but I would not be expecting a home hitting run.

      More into solid solo ads. Targeted tarffic and has been giving me some good results.
      Ahhh yeah but here's the sweetest thing...

      You position yourself and your business to these new marketers....They get onto your lists first and you have a great opportunity to build solid relationships with new people in the industry that haven't gone through spew of promises and riches...

      It's a great way to brand yourself in a leadership position for these newer marketers.
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  • Profile picture of the author koppster
    It didn't work well for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author frank07
    I did not success with TE. Try and waste time with them, I use this time for SEO and get better result. So TE is harder than normal SEO with my experience .
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  • Profile picture of the author koppster
    Anything you want to learn is on YouTube.
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  • Profile picture of the author mymoney5243
    Some very interesting prospectives.

    Here is my experience with Traffic Exchanges. Yes they do get results but it seems to take a bit longer than some other forms of advertising. Part of this depends on if you are an upgraded member or a free member.

    In my opinion all forms of advertising on the Inter net "Really" do work, it is just a matter of being consitant. Which, is why I build bots for most of my advertising. I have an email bot, groups bot, classified ads bot, forum/blog bot, article bot and so on and so forth. It really cuts down the time to place all the ads on all those different sites. However, you can not do this with T.E.'s they do take a lot of time unless you have built a hughe downline on each T.E.

    All in All yes they do work it just takes time. People are too impatient. My advise with using T.E.'s is be patient and it will come.
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  • Profile picture of the author magnates
    I believe it is waste of time .I tried before .It never really worked for me . I do not of any other successful marketer that it has worked for either . Just stating my personal experience .It is possible that some people are having joy with traffic exchanges but it not worth it for me
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
      Originally Posted by magnates View Post

      I believe it is waste of time .I tried before .It never really worked for me . I do not of any other successful marketer that it has worked for either . Just stating my personal experience .It is possible that some people are having joy with traffic exchanges but it not worth it for me
      I understand that it's not what you feel works best for you. But that doesn't mean it deserves a broad stroke that it won't work for anyone. I think that is a point that has been made several times in previous posts above.

      Another point that has been made is that if you have tried them in the past, that you have missed how powerful they have become as list builders with the new features and changes that have been made at a few.

      I urge anyone who hasn't tried them or tried them in the past to simple give it a try again to see the differences made. There is a solid difference between traffic exchanges and social traffic networks.

      If you want advice on what would work best, you have the attention of the best of the best here and we can help give you solid ideas on what will help you get results this time around.
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      • Profile picture of the author nicelife
        Originally Posted by JohnGuanzon View Post

        If you want advice on what would work best, you have the attention of the best of the best here and we can help give you solid ideas on what will help you get results this time around.

        I would love to have advice on using TE, I'm a total newbie on using this traffic source.

        Do you pay for the traffic or sit around surfing yourself or how does it work?


        /Daniel
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
          Originally Posted by nicelife View Post

          I would love to have advice on using TE, I'm a total newbie on using this traffic source.

          Do you pay for the traffic or sit around surfing yourself or how does it work?


          /Daniel
          It depends, if you have an ad budget then use it to buy credits and or upgrades. Put your ads into rotation then test, track, tweak as with any other traffic source medium.

          If you don't have a spending budget or you just want to get a feel for the results you can get from the te's. It's really easy to pick a traffic exchange surf it for an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening get to know the community (the actual people who will be looking at your sites and possibly your prospects, leads, customers, mentors, or future business partners), get feedback from that community about your pages, then make educated decisions on what will work better for you from there.

          It's the social aspect that makes it work so well. You are not mindlessly surfing for credits, neither are the other members. Folks are getting a clear idea who the audience is, interacting with them, and increasing results based on those interactions.

          Does it take a bit of time? Yea. Doesn't learning any new form of traffic delivery? Yea. Does it work straight out of the gate? Not all the time. But at least when you try it or try it again this time around, you can get a clear idea why it didn't work and make it work faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Abbott
    Hello - My name is Eric Abbott, new to the warrior forum. I have read some of these replies and some of them completely baffle me. First of all, on this subject I have great knowledge on Traffic Exchanges. I have been using them for 5 years now. It has been my MAIN source of advertising. People saying they are 'junk' are very uneducated on this subject and IF they have used them properly, they would NOT call them junk, because they would have gotten results from them. That is a FACT. Simple way to solve this. -- If you have made no results using Traffic Exchanges, you simply do not have the knowledge on using them to brand yourself. A likely scenario for you if you have made very little to no results with Traffic Exchanges in the past before you quickly gave up on them. (1) You promoting long affiliate ad copies (Gets you no results) (2) You did not use an optin page with your picture/name on it (Gets you no results) (3) You did not assign your credits (Gets you no results) (4) You surfed less than 50 sites, assigned, did not get a signup and quit (Gets you no results -- The proof that TEs work, and how you should use them. Build your brand - (YOUR NAME , YOUR FACE, AND/OR YOUR COMPANY) Build your list - (USE AN OPTIN BESIDE YOUR NAME, FACE AND LIST) USE An out of the box VIDEO - (Example: -- I got 2,000 + optins in about 2/half months, NO money and very little effort invested. **About an hour a day of surfing different TEs** - Using a splash page, and a video of my funny PUPPET starting off by saying "HEY! Stop surfing that Traffic Exchange for a second.. I've got something to tell you!" -- would you know that that video got hundreds of people stop surfing the TEs , watch the video, and laugh about it? Soon after they opted in , and signed up for my program? Yes.. over 2,000 people in just a couple of months.. Traffic exchanges work , everyone who views your page on a TE has the exact same goal as you do. Its just a matter of you , and your education on them - thinking outside the box is what makes you in a TE. You must have your own uniqueness in order to succeed in TEs. If you do not have a uniqueness , TEs will fail for you. They can either succeed, and bring you a TON of results, or you can promote long , generic ad copies and you will get next to no results whatsoever (That would be because people are NOT interested in reading your long ad copies because it brought them no benefit nor captured their attention.) Simple as that folks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ablaze
    Originally Posted by dagaul101 View Post

    Traffic exchanges used to work, but unfortunately the search engines look down on it, and could get your site penalised
    Used to work?? I'm Sorry they have never been better. The results for real marketers are up across all of the traffic exchanges.

    More members are learning about marketing everyday using traffic exchanges. owners and members work together.

    Traffic exchanges are still a simple but the focus is changing with comunication being easier than ever reputations are more important than ever. and a good traffic exchange places PEOPLE not just product in front of other members.

    its no longer a Blind pitch or a shower of faceless ads That vendor or owner is right there for you to ask questions and make suggestions to.

    good traffic exchanges Are more that just Traffic.

    in fact its a "list building- networking- social- bank- of- real- people- and amazing- opportunities- from- trusted- honest- hard- working- people- exchange

    but that's too long so we call it social traffic exchanges

    but to say they used to work Only tells me that someone close minded or not willing to put in any effort at all is preaching to people.

    and that is a shame imagine the friends and followers and customers you would have if you had not listened to the people talking and learned from the people doing
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  • Profile picture of the author nicelife
    So what TE's are the best, do you want to share any?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
      Originally Posted by nicelife View Post

      So what TE's are the best, do you want to share any?
      It boils down to ownership. The owners that show they truly care about their membership and are taking action to make sure quality is at the forefront of their service are in this thread taking a stand for their products and services. A read thru this thread will give you an idea of a handful of programs that are actually worth anyone's time.
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    • Profile picture of the author insidmal
      Originally Posted by nicelife View Post

      So what TE's are the best, do you want to share any?
      I rate the top performing ones each month on my blog, you can see the best working for me at insidblog.com however what works best for you will be up to your tracking results... but that will get you headed the right direction..

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      I'd like to challenge everyone in here that says that traffic exchanges are junk and don't work, contact me directly and I'll set you up with some freebies to revisit them with, I'll bet you are surprised with the results..
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    • Originally Posted by nicelife View Post

      So what TE's are the best, do you want to share any?

      My personal favorites are:

      thumbvu - Social Traffic Network
      Sweeva - Social Browsing

      I used to use

      Ablaze Free Traffic Exchange Directory list, Classifieds, and List Builder

      However, I haven't logged in to that site in awhile. I think I will while I'm thinking about it

      None of these links are my affiliate link as per the WF rules. However, if you would like to sign up under me feel free to PM me
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    • Profile picture of the author alcymart
      Originally Posted by nicelife View Post

      So what TE's are the best, do you want to share any?
      I compiled a list of the 47 Top TE's, PM me to get it...

      Bernard
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  • Profile picture of the author Ablaze
    I will give you my recommendations

    Look at the owners in this Like John G for example he is the Thumbvu.com guy
    And Jon Olson it sweeva.com and Ilovehits.com and others that have posted here

    Like Hilbertsupertraffichighway.com and others that get out and get active

    There is others but you will see them promoted on traffic exchanges and you can ask others and get social too
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Lambency
    The thing with traffic exchanges is.. the visitors are just people. Ordinary marketers who just want traffic to their site.

    I've surfed traffic exchange sites and marketed on them. It's true that most people aren't going to sign up for your list, hence the low cost of the traffic. But if you grab their attention with your copy and offer them something they actually want, i.e. traffic for their site... they may sign up for your list.

    I've signed up for information via traffic exchange sites and I've built my list using this source of traffic. Not at the percentage you'd expect from adwords or facebook ads, but still at a decent price per lead..

    We could post all day on whether traffic exchange sites suck, but what it really comes down to is: are you offering value that people actually want to pay for?

    just my thoughts...
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
      Originally Posted by Scott Lambency View Post

      The thing with traffic exchanges is.. the visitors are just people. Ordinary marketers who just want traffic to their site.

      I've surfed traffic exchange sites and marketed on them. It's true that most people aren't going to sign up for your list, hence the low cost of the traffic. But if you grab their attention with your copy and offer them something they actually want, i.e. traffic for their site... they may sign up for your list.

      I've signed up for information via traffic exchange sites and I've built my list using this source of traffic. Not at the percentage you'd expect from adwords or facebook ads, but still at a decent price per lead..

      We could post all day on whether traffic exchange sites suck, but what it really comes down to is: are you offering value that people actually want to pay for?

      just my thoughts...
      Yup that is spot on. The job of a traffic exchange system is to deliver traffic. And as always its up to you the advertiser to have your ducks properly lined up in a row to make sure you are converting that traffic with your copy and sales funnel to get the right cost per acquisition to keep the traffic coming.

      It never changes between forms of traffic you use. Traffic + sales = traffic + sales = and on and on.

      With any other traffic delivery method the disclaimer also is the same: results may vary.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Abbott
      Originally Posted by Scott Lambency View Post

      The thing with traffic exchanges is.. the visitors are just people. Ordinary marketers who just want traffic to their site.

      I've surfed traffic exchange sites and marketed on them. It's true that most people aren't going to sign up for your list, hence the low cost of the traffic. But if you grab their attention with your copy and offer them something they actually want, i.e. traffic for their site... they may sign up for your list.

      I've signed up for information via traffic exchange sites and I've built my list using this source of traffic. Not at the percentage you'd expect from adwords or facebook ads, but still at a decent price per lead..

      We could post all day on whether traffic exchange sites suck, but what it really comes down to is: are you offering value that people actually want to pay for?

      just my thoughts...
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  • Profile picture of the author surfless
    I was directed here to weigh in with my opinion.
    I didn't have the time to read everyone's response, however I wanted to let everyone know that I used to be of the opinion that TE's were the most worthless thing going...showing your "ads" to people who could care less about them, because the people "seeing" them were only interested in you seeing their ad?..What the heck would i want to waste my time doing that for?

    Well, i got nowhere in IM for years...then I tried putting a splash page in a TE, and can you guess what happened? IT WORKED...in days, not years...My first signups...my first sales...Hello? It works.... and they have been here the whole time...and growing!!
    Well, I took a step further and became a TE owner...and guess what?...business is fine thank you very much, and guess how i promote my traffic exchange? In traffic exchanges.
    Yes they work, and they work phenomenally well! and customers thank me everyday, and thank you guys for your support.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ablaze
    For the Internet marketers who haven’t tried traffic exchanges ever or those of you who haven’t in a quite some time look at the post for the owners and the users of traffic exchanges

    look at how we are united and want to share the successes with everyone.

    I love traffic exchanges and I know my commitment to them is long term and to the users and members I am one of you I surf 1000’s of pages everyday and I am rewarded with signups, new friends with common interest and value beyond what I ever thought a traffic exchange could do. but more than that I sign up to new programs to ensure I give every opportunity the best shot I can.

    Some fade and some grow but that’s marketing and I love it


    Do traffic exchanges work? the better question is, When did they ever stop working?
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  • Profile picture of the author niffybranco
    People on traffic exchanges are looking fore one thing and one thing only TRAFFIC. If you promote the right offers to them it will convert, also most people surfing traffic exchanges are newbies so any fancy or technical terms will only confuse and scare them keep your splash pages and squeeze pages simple. Also remember that people on traffic exchanges might not have money as they are still newbies so it might be futile to start promoting products to them immediately, instead help them out and build a proper relationship and they will repay you once they start making money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
    LOL...

    "Junk" is the word people use when something doesn't work for them... and I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Alexa on something, but the traffic is very targeted.

    AdWords is "junk" for the people who can't use it properly, just like Facebook is "junk", and articles are "junk"... Jon, don't take it personally... there's no point in arguing with people who have already made up their minds.

    I've made hundreds of of thousands of dollars from traffic that was generated via Traffic Exchanges... and yes, I can directly attribute that money to specific traffic exchanges, over a specific time period.

    Big secret time...

    If your target market is newer internet marketers, you're not going to find a more targeted source of traffic... period.

    -Gary Ambrose

    P.S. Jon, and the other John too... we gotta talk.. you guys still on Skype?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnGuanzon
      Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

      Big secret time...

      If your target market is newer internet marketers, you're not going to find a more targeted source of traffic... period.

      -Gary Ambrose
      What he said...

      Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

      P.S. Jon, and the other John too... we gotta talk.. you guys still on Skype?
      Yup, look forward to chatting with ya.
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  • Profile picture of the author txconx
    Thanks for the information here. Sometimes, even the bickering was useful.

    When I started reading this thread, I didn't even know what TE was - went and looked it up, looked at a couple sites and now I'm better informed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    Immature jerk...Well thank you for that. It's actually one of the nicer things that have been said about me in 13 years lol

    Gary - Yeah man, for sure. I'm always around. Just haven't been here in a while...Too many experts and all you know...
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    • Profile picture of the author Kent F
      It always strikes me as odd that Traffic Exchanges and Network Marketing seem to bring out more emotion around here than anything else, and has for years.

      Conversely, if you went back to a Warrior thread from just 12 to 15 months ago, probably something like the Google X-Man Predator (fictitious product for example only), was touted as the greatest thing ever and would have worked forever had Google not delisted every site using it. You'd think the inventor of it was put in a Hall of Fame or something, yet, the product was a dismal failure - unless you call "selling the dream" success.

      Everyone paid $97 for it and it worked for 7 people for like 43 minutes.

      Traffic Exchanges worked 5 years ago and work today - if implemented and WORKED properly.

      Tricking Google into a quick buck works for the "gurus" who discovered it - for about the lifespan of a gnat.
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      • Profile picture of the author jraymond
        Originally Posted by Kent F View Post

        Traffic Exchanges worked 5 years ago and work today - if implemented and WORKED properly.

        Tricking Google into a quick buck works for the "gurus" who discovered it - for about the lifespan of a gnat.
        lol great point. TEs have a staying power you just don't see from most of the "sure fire" methods you see getting all the hype. besides, There's only so much room on the front page of google, and those PPC ads can get pretty costly if the niche is popular... go to a TE, and you can grab 1,000 hits for $5- $10... regardless of how much competition there is.

        If you missed it, in plain English that translates into "worth a test or two"

        This is probably my second visit to the warrior forum, my first visit years ago ended abruptly when I saw experts claiming TE's didn't work. The only income I was making online at that point was coming from TE Traffic so I just assumed no one here knew what they were talking about... never looked back.

        The truth of the matter is... any advertising venue that can guarantee that a real person will see your ad... even if only for a few seconds... can net results... but as many have said already, you can't put the cart before the horse. You have to get into the heads of your audience and craft your funnel accordingly. It's the same story no matter where you promote your biz.

        That said, I couldn't think of a better place for a newbie to "learn the ropes". It's cheap to fail, and you can fail fast, learn from your mistakes, and try again.

        Un-targeted traffic? Surf a few pages and look at what people are promoting then you tell me if you'd like the chance to offer these folks a better solution, a better biz opp... etc.. etc... etc. They might just be looking for what you have to offer.

        Not to mention... the people who do surf exchanges, surf em daily, and are likely to see your ad several times over the course of a few days.... It's the next best thing to an ad on local television... they might not notice the first time, but before you know it they're singing your jingle in their sleep.

        Another thing about the TE Community that separates it from the rest of the IM niche... high profile owners like Paul Kinder and Jon Olson give their best advice freely, ie, the exact methods they've used to build their 6 figure plus incomes... because they know that the precious few that do actually "get it" will become raving fans... aka loyal JV partners for life or longer.

        geez... I could go on for pages about the benefits of using TEs and why it's worth getting past the learning curve. I just don't see how any seasoned marketer could NOT see the huge potential that Traffic Exchanges offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author waltermulder
    Targeted traffic? Yes, if you operate in the "Internet Marketing", "make money online" and "traffic" niches but probably not when you want to sell your latest cookbook or health and fitness product.

    And as others point out here the "how to" is also important. Long sales letters and standard affiliate pages simply don't work. People have limited time and are not in the buying mood.

    Personally I find Traffic Exchanges effective for branding and list building purposes (the two most important things to do for an internet marketer imho)
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    • Profile picture of the author bloomingrose
      Yes! My concern exactly! These sound workable but limited to IM or MLM niches. Has anybody had any luck with any other niches?

      And can you please tell me the difference between traffic exchanges, safe lists and solo ads?


      Originally Posted by waltermulder View Post

      Targeted traffic? Yes, if you operate in the "Internet Marketing", "make money online" and "traffic" niches but probably not when you want to sell your latest cookbook or health and fitness product.

      And as others point out here the "how to" is also important. Long sales letters and standard affiliate pages simply don't work. People have limited time and are not in the buying mood.

      Personally I find Traffic Exchanges effective for branding and list building purposes (the two most important things to do for an internet marketer imho)
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      • Originally Posted by bloomingrose View Post

        Yes! My concern exactly! These sound workable but limited to IM or MLM niches. Has anybody had any luck with any other niches?

        And can you please tell me the difference between traffic exchanges, safe lists and solo ads?
        Traffic exchanges: You surf pages via a rotator to earn credits to have others view your site.

        Safe Lists: You receive and read emails to earn credits to mail out to other users.

        Solo Ads: Normally a paid advertisement for a mailing to a marketers list. This is your ad only and you don't have to worry about people clicking on your link to earn their "credit".
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  • Profile picture of the author Fallen_Angel
    Traffic exchanges WORK for 2 things getting article views which makes your article featured, which leads to real quality visitors to your site. The other way traffic exchanges work is for video views on youtube etc., which also leads to your video being ranked higher in youtube search.
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    • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
      Originally Posted by Fallen_Angel View Post

      Traffic exchanges WORK for 2 things getting article views which makes your article featured, which leads to real quality visitors to your site. The other way traffic exchanges work is for video views on youtube etc., which also leads to your video being ranked higher in youtube search.
      You'd be much cheaper getting this sort of thing done using a service such as amazon Turk. You're also risking the adsense income of people who own the article sites as I lost my adsense account by having it on the bottom of a page which I was advertising in TE's.
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      • Profile picture of the author waltermulder
        Originally Posted by AndrewStark View Post

        I lost my adsense account by having it on the bottom of a page which I was advertising in TE's.
        Never ever use adsense on pages you advertise on Traffic Exchanges
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    There's some fantastic feedback from people who do not own traffic exchanges, but get results from them. Thank you all for coming out and stating a case for them.

    Like what Jamison stated above....The 'sure fire' ways to promote seem to fall in and out of favor every few months around here....Yet traffic exchanges have been around since the late 1990's.

    Something must be working? =)
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  • Profile picture of the author wbrant
    Wow four pages already- and its great to see that 3 of them aren't all pages of people saying no they are junk without having anything to back that info up.

    DO I use them? Yes Do they work for me ? again yes!

    Are they my only source of traffic? No

    If you are interested in getting adsense income- or are selling nettie pots then traffic exchanges are not where you want to get your traffic.

    How ever if you are in the make money online niche - traffic generation especially or really anything geared to newer marketers then as has already been said traffic exchanges are perfect for you.

    You are not going to find a bigger group of that highly targeted people that you can reach for so cheaply any where else.

    There are thousands of new marketers joining them every day all looking to get traffic or make some money.

    If that sounds like your target audience -then its as simple as putting your offer into rotation and scooping in the subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author mysterrio
    They can be a good way to start a list. You have to send the traffic to a capture page and get them to opt in. This traffic is not always the best if you are selling an item however.
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    • Profile picture of the author JWBlack
      If traffic exchanges aren't working for you, it's because you aren't working for traffic exchanges. It's YOU that should change. TE's have been around since the beginning and if they didn't work they would have died out ages ago. But when you put stuff like Clickbank affiliate pages into the TE - you know, the ones that are a mile long, take forever to load, and always have those annoying exit popups - why would you expect anything? Chances are the page never loaded and the surfer never even saw the ad.

      And even if the page did manage to load in 10 seconds, I'm sure the surfer is not willing to stop for fifteen minutes to read the copy unless you have an absolutely astounding offer. But nay, most of these pages are just hype and surfers know this. So instead of getting their attention you just lost a potential lead AND a sale.

      Try astounding the TE community with a real offer on a real splash page that sounds like it was created by a real person. I bet you will see much better click thru rates. Just my 2 cents which may not be worth a dime :p

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      • Profile picture of the author samjaynz
        If traffic exchanges don't work, why do they still exist? Someone has to be turning a dollar somewhere, right

        It's "untargeted traffic" if you're trying to sell a weight loss eBook with a 500 mile long sales page to your traffic exchange hits.

        Now instead, if you fired in like Mike Tyson in the first round with a knockout headline and an opt-in for "ways to profit with traffic exchanges" or something similar, you could get some great results.

        See where I'm going with this?
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    Hey Jonathan,

    Want to bounce an idea off of you if you don't mind.

    I've been thinking about this for a week. Just like you said, you have ten seconds.

    Give them something. No optin, no asking for a sale. Just give.

    At least my message goes from the traffic exchange, onto the computer hard drive, then when they open it, I own them for a few seconds to a few minutes. depending on my writing.

    Everybody is asking on the traffic exchanges. I want to be different and give with no strings attached.

    Does that sound like a good idea? Took a week to think of this, ya I know. Pathetic.

    everybody gives here in the warrior forum. But not in the traffic exchanges.

    The guru's have long abandoned the TE's. that may leave a lot of room for opportunity.

    thanks for listening, and would like to hear your thoughts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claire Sharp
    Yes of course you can do traffic exchange. But often there are pros and cons about it. Just do it properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrJale
    Traffic exchanges can be monetized extremely well with the RIGHT approach. If you have wrong approach, they will be a time waster...
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  • Profile picture of the author mrclean0325
    I understand both sides of this 'discussion'.

    IF you do article marketing PROPERLY you can get great targeted traffic and IF your funnel is right; get conversions. This is also based on you actually understanding how to do it, be able to write articles in volume, actually submit them, and all the rest. IF you do 5 articles and get no results - it SUCKS and doesn't work.

    IF you can do SEO effectively, you will get great targeted traffic and IF your funnel is right; get conversions. This is based on your knowledge and ability to do the PROPER keyword research, on-page optimization, structure, and all the rest that goes along with using this traffic technique. If you don't know how to research keywords and choose a generic keyword and make tons of niche site and get lots of hits, but no conversions; then it SUCKS and doesn't work.

    IF you do social marketing PROPERLY you can get great results. Those that put a page on FaceBook and get a Twitter account and spam the crap out of both and get NO results; then it SUCKS and doesn't work.

    IF you do traffic exchanges PROPERLY, you can get a tremendous amount of hits. Granted the conversions are going to be lower. This will all depend on the product you are trying to market. IF you don't use traffic exchanges PROPERLY and put long loading pages, 2 mile long ads, many exit pop-ups, and you only surf one site for one day and get NO results, then it SUCKS and doesn't work.

    The same with list building, blogging, and all the rest.

    Traffic exchanges are easy to use for the most part and don't require any specialized skills. Sure there are 'cheats' in everything. It comes down, again, to knowing WHO is using a traffic exchange and how to utilize them properly.

    With a traffic exchange, the total member base is irrelevant. It is how many people are ACTUALLY using it. If you use a site that has 10,000 members, but only 50 people surfing at any given time; that is useful information.

    Traffic exchanges are basically a 'niche' all to themselves and each exchange is a 'sub-niche'. Each exchange will give you different results from the same ad. This depends on the membership.

    In the end it is still research and knowing your market. When I have a 'bomb' in any of them - it is MY fault for not doing things PROPERLY.

    Just my 2 cents.......
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  • Profile picture of the author ara67
    it works for some and it does not for others, personally I own 1 viral traffic exchange site and it is useless for me, even though it has over 500 members, oh well life goes on, but I do find the posts here very interesting and it is always good to read different opinions, for sure interesting question I find...........
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by SteveCarell View Post

      You can improve traffic but you are going to fall your rank too.
      Why do you think that, Steve? Where's the connection between using a traffic exchange and somehow damaging the ranking of a website?! Please excuse the question, but you've made a very remarkable and puzzling assertion here. Why should that be the case? How could that possibly work?
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  • Profile picture of the author Elion Makkink
    Some do, some don't.

    For example, megaupload.com sends you a visitor by every visitor you sent to them. However, this is just a pop up before the download starts. Or something like that. I don't think traffic exchanges are valuable, because these aren't the visitors you're targeting...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      I don't think traffic exchanges are valuable, because these aren't the visitors you're targetting...
      You mean, perhaps, that they're not the visitors you're targeting, Elion? Many people here are targeting exactly that type of visitor: webmasters looking for ways to increase the traffic to their sites. If you're promoting (as many Warriors are) a report called something like "How To Build Your Traffic", then that traffic would be pretty highly targeted for you, wouldn't it?
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      • Profile picture of the author Elion Makkink
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        You mean, perhaps, that they're not the visitors you're targeting, Elion? Many people here are targeting exactly that type of visitor: webmasters looking for ways to increase the traffic to their sites. If you're promoting (as many Warriors are) a report called something like "How To Build Your Traffic", then that traffic would be pretty highly targeted for you, wouldn't it?
        That's why I said, some do and some don't work . I meant to say that it's not smart ff you just randomly exchange traffic with someone on any given niche. You'll get the traffic, but will you get any conversions?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Terry
    The problem as I see it with traffic exchanges is the people clicking the links through to your site are only interested in using the traffic exchange to get traffic to their site.

    They're not very likely to stop and read other people's ads as they're clicking to get more clicks for their site. As soon as they get the credit for the click they're onto the next site.

    They're just not motivated buyers, they're only motivated into getting credits to get clicks to their website.

    Traffic exchanges are usually the place new people to internet marketing go because it sounds like a great idea. The reality doesn't sink in until later on when the traffic they do get doesn't covert into optins and sales.

    There are always new people coming along to take the place of those who realize traffic exchanges are by and large a waste of time. That's what keeps them going.

    When I was running an affiliate program for a product that's related to making money online we used to get A LOT of affiliate traffic from traffic exchanges. It was the worst converting traffic on the planet.

    You're better off using article marketing to get free traffic. It's much more sustainable, long-lasting and targeted and shows you as the expert.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
      Originally Posted by Brian Terry View Post

      The problem as I see it with traffic exchanges is the people clicking the links through to your site are only interested in using the traffic exchange to get traffic to their site.

      They're not very likely to stop and read other people's ads as they're clicking to get more clicks for their site. As soon as they get the credit for the click they're onto the next site.

      They're just not motivated buyers, they're only motivated into getting credits to get clicks to their website.

      Traffic exchanges are usually the place new people to internet marketing go because it sounds like a great idea. The reality doesn't sink in until later on when the traffic they do get doesn't covert into optins and sales.

      There are always new people coming along to take the place of those who realize traffic exchanges are by and large a waste of time. That's what keeps them going.

      When I was running an affiliate program for a product that's related to making money online we used to get A LOT of affiliate traffic from traffic exchanges. It was the worst converting traffic on the planet.

      You're better off using article marketing to get free traffic. It's much more sustainable, long-lasting and targeted and shows you as the expert.
      See this irritates the crap out of me...read the tread...see the replies from people who know how to use them.

      you never send traffic to a sales page with TE's

      They are lead generation programs, ripe with people who will sign up for a list or join a free membership site so you can market to them over a period of time through conventional email marketing methods.

      If you were a better site owner you would educate your affiliates better, and get them to use a resource properly to bring both them and you better sales and affiliate payments.

      The problem here isnt that TE's dont work, But site owners who wont work.

      EDUCATE YOUR AFFILIATES BETTER

      PS: any responsible program owners who want to educate their affilliates to use traffic exchanges better feel free to book me for a webinar or conference so I can point them in the right direction
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

        See this irritates the crap out of me...read the tread...see the replies from people who know how to use them.

        you never send traffic to a sales page with TE's
        Well, I'm glad you're still posting in it, anyway. To be honest, I wince every time I see that threads like this have been resurrected, because long experience has taught me that nine times out of ten it'll be by someone else saying that TE traffic isn't targeted or that it doesn't convert. "There'll be more along later", too - I don't doubt. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author mlmmentors
    Traffic Exchanges (TE) are great for list building. Sometimes it just takes stepping back and looking at the big picture. Many TE surfers are using TE's to GENERATE TRAFFIC TO THEIR BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY. It only took me a minute to figure out that I should focus on marketing FREE TOOLS in TE's to help the TE surfer build their business. (Light bulb moment). This can be done through an ebook, video or articles. I've even seen a lot of 7 day free advertising bootcamps marketed on TE's. If you really put your thinking cap
    on I'm sure you could come up with some other ideas.

    I think many of us look at TE's as a way to just get sales in our businesses. Build the list first by offering the TE surfer something of value that can help them build their business. Get them to opt-in to your LIST then build the relationship. Remember: people join people and NOT business opportunities. You've got to give the people what they want because when you do this you will ultimately get what you want in the end (a new business partner/sales).
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  • Profile picture of the author vegasbuster
    No. Sure you will see increased traffic to your site, but it'll be random 1 second web page openings and nothing else.

    No help whatsoever.
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  • Profile picture of the author jdooley13
    So, those of you who think this is a great ay to get leads from a squeeze page, could you give a quick overview of how these programs work and how to best utilize them?Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author SocialMediaOwls
    Traffic exchange sites work great...

    The best thing you can do for yourself:

    Sign up for a one that is getting traffic, put your accounts in and then either make a macro for yourself or acquire one.

    I get plenty of traffic from TE sites and liked it so much I bought a few of them myself. Is the conversion rate low? Sure, but it is free traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    i used traffic exchanges 4 years ago when i first came online and i found that they were absolute garbage, and they probably still are unless something (miraculous has happened) that ive missed

    most of the time the traffic was terrible and very untargeted

    these days my best traffic methods are

    solo ads
    forums
    seo
    social media
    viral traffic
    type in blog traffic

    if some of you guys swear by traffic exchanges then thats cool but i found them to be a complete waste of time and complete garbage

    your much better off spending the time on building your list and building those online assets

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    • Profile picture of the author Anna Kowalski
      I am no expert, as many will agree.

      However, I've been "playing around" with a TE called Sweeva.com

      I take the traffic from there to promote my listubilder exchanges. Right now I have 4. That gives me well over 12K emails going out each week. Now the people getting the emails are trying to get credits themselves, so they don't really have a long attention span you might say.

      But I use those 12K emails to promote my FREE giveaways, and build those lists. So the traffic directly from the TE is not great for converting, but it is great for getting me more email credits, which are great for building my lists.

      I'm just scratching the surface, and trying to keep it focused. The biggest distraction with TE"s is that they all promote one another, so if you aren't careful, you will end up joining a dozen before you know it.

      Anybody else??
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
    Why was this dinosaur resurected?

    Anyway they can be good if used right. See here:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5902472
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    They are a complete waste of time and they should be wiped off the face of the Earth... but there is always a group of marketers who can make money from any traffic source no matter how poor the quality of traffic is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Usmile
    In some cases traffic exchange really works it really depends on the strategy that you are putting in. I've know several individuals who are practicing this one and so far I've heard good feedbacks from them though there are some instances which they found it not good as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rogue2323
    Yeah traffic exchanges are trash. There are some free methods out there that work well, youtube media buys work real well!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
    Best time ever to get back involved with them...

    I haven't stopped using them since 1998, even when everyone swore by Google and yeah, we all saw how that went...

    Good to see interest back for them....They are still here, 15 years later =)

    (and growing by about 5000-7500 new surfers a week)
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  • Profile picture of the author Takuya Hikichi
    I used John's I Love Hits to grow list on autopilot.

    All one needs to do is to focus on the pain of the Traffic Exchange users.

    Build a squeeze page, tell then how you can solve their problems that they are experiencing DURING their Traffic Exchange usage.

    Here's the exact report I used in 2007-8. It's a dinosaur and some links don't work, but you'll read A to Z of how to do this effectively.

    http://asktak.com/reports/ilovehits.pdf

    I don't have the Word doc for this, but if anyone wants PLR rights to this report, you can have it with my permission. You'll just need to somehow convert it into editable format.. Ignore the old rights I state inside, please do whatever you want to do with it.

    Build a simple squeeze page, follow exactly what I show you inside the report above, edit this PLR and credit as your own idea to build list on autopilot.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasono
    Yes but NOT targeted traffic unless of course it's on related niche. Other than that, it's junk traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Takuya Hikichi
      Originally Posted by jasono View Post

      Yes but NOT targeted traffic unless of course it's on related niche. Other than that, it's junk traffic.
      What if a squeeze page focused on their pain they experience during Traffic Exchange? Wouldn't this be targeted traffic?

      Traffic Exchange users are folks who want to stay at home and work. If the squeeze page attempted to solve their problem, soon the same type of people start opting - in.

      So the minute I walk into Traffic Exchange, it's a related niche of its own. I would't try to sell diet programs or anything like that to this list though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jon Olson
        Originally Posted by Takuya Hikichi View Post

        What if a squeeze page focused on their pain they experience during Traffic Exchange? Wouldn't this be targeted traffic?

        Traffic Exchange users are folks who want to stay at home and work. If the squeeze page attempted to solve their problem, soon the same type of people start opting - in.

        So the minute I walk into Traffic Exchange, it's a related niche of its own. I would't try to sell diet programs or anything like that to this list though.
        Yup! Bang on...

        Know the market and you can advertise really anything to them. You just need to create advertisements that talk to the fears, their dreams, etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author knish
    Traffic exchanges can work if, as someone mentioned, it is targeted (categorized). If the traffic you receive is based on certain keywords it is not a waste of time. Also, even un-targeted traffic is better than no traffic as long as it's not just a bunch of spammers.
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  • Profile picture of the author equanto
    I think thisi is 100% junk
    personally, I am expert in using the traffic exchange as bot, so I use many traffic exchanges for many aplications using one computer (like many accounts which come and considered as traffic, but they actually just 1 computer or person) and Iwhat I need to do is just eat, sleep, etc) so the main point is,, that expecting something from traffic exchange is useless thx
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Allard
      Originally Posted by equanto View Post

      I think thisi is 100% junk
      personally, I am expert in using the traffic exchange as bot, so I use many traffic exchanges for many aplications using one computer (like many accounts which come and considered as traffic, but they actually just 1 computer or person) and Iwhat I need to do is just eat, sleep, etc) so the main point is,, that expecting something from traffic exchange is useless thx
      So you're an expert at something that is useless? Why waste your time if that's the case?

      As many others have said, it's not traffic exchanges that are useless it's the people using them. Whether they work for you or not comes down to what you're offering and your approach. People here claiming traffic exchanges are useless are really just saying they don't know how to market effectively to a specific target audience.

      Marketing to a target audience requires going where that target market is. And if they spend their time on traffic exchanges that means there's opportunity there to reach them with your marketing message.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    As a few people have already mentioned- if you're going to use traffic exchanges, send them to a squeeze page.

    Sending them straight an affiliate link or something will almost NEVER be profitable- even if its CPA offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author SocialMediaOwls
    Traffic exchange sites work great as YOU can decide whom you want to follow. If you don't want to follow anyone at all, you can just buy coins/credits as an option.
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  • Profile picture of the author Francis Ochoco
    I tinkered with traffic exchanges when I first started building my list but got way better results from other traffic methods so I abandoned TEs.

    That doesn't mean they don't work though. I later learned that there are marketers who have built profitable lists using TEs.

    It's just like any traffic method, you gotta work hard at being good at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jdooley13
    Well, I tried two different (and fairly good converting) IM related squeeze pages on several of the traffic exchanges for over a month (including two referred to on this thread) and I never got the first sign up.
    I would also like to say I find it odd how many people will post that traffic exchanges are wonderful "if you know how to properly use them" but these people never tell just how you do that.
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  • Profile picture of the author ClasH
    I am currently in a JV targetting PTC traffic and if you set it up properly it will make you **** loads of money. Its not like you investing $50 and getting $1000 out but rather:

    Invest $300 and double your money in 6 months, so the more you invest the more potential you have to make money from it (High Risk though). TE and PTC traffic are usually super cheap traffic and like someone stated, it is something many people start doing to get into the "making money online" niche.

    However all this traffic is REAL traffic and usually not people looking to buy stuff but rather searching for information as to how to make "MORE" money online. Which means its great for listbuilding but could also be people ready to click your adsense or "get rich quick ebooks" (priced at $1-$3 that they might have made from the PTC):

    Supply them with just that and you can make money upselling products to these people or get them to click adsense etc.

    The reason people are calling it junk traffic is because most people are targetting products priced at $10+. TE and PTC is about volume...so you should go for VOLUME sales at peanut prices.

    THINK people THINK!
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  • Profile picture of the author Blimeyoreilly
    When I first came into contact with TE it was like being confronted with total advertising anarchy. You are first bombarded by a hail of pricey upgrade requests before even offered the chance to understand what the site does or how it works (some TE may differ but this was my first welcome experience). I disliked the TE site from day one because of the pushy money grabbing welcome as just described, that & being told the discounted offers would no longer be repeated ever again.

    Before I pay any money to anything it is not unreasonable to expect to see something of the site/offer/service beforehand. Anyway, having become a member after ignoring all the scarcity offers; I was totally frustrated at all the ads forced in my face as I tried to enter the member's area. It would not hurt them to mention that your email inbox would be bombarded by hundreds of member emails either (& by that I mean being advised to open a gmail account specifically for the site as well as given effective notice).

    All I wanted was to get a piece of knowledge about what the site was all about & how it actually worked. Instead I ended up complaining about the lack of transparency & that the site explained nothing about how to use it at all. This got me a great result, the owners in their wisdom actually created a user manual.

    Later I learned that you could never actually use points to create solo ads (in this site unlike many others). So when the credits got used up you could only buy solo ads. I have never had any success with any TE sites perhaps because I did not use them for what they are intended for but there again; even the user manual or anything else gives no clues as to what the most effective way to use them is. Neither is any thread here except the suggestion that they are socially effective or good at promoting your brand etc.

    TE is just a bit too much of a strain on the brain, time & resources to be considered as a viable social media platform. This idea does not make any sense at all since the reason we have Facebook, Twitter or even Pinterest for those kind of skills. How many of you would turn to TE rather than the Warrior Forum for IM relations? Exactly, zero, so why even think of TE as a social media option in comparison to all these existing proven social media sites?

    I am still using one or two TE sites now, not because they bear me any fruit but as a means to practice the art of words in advertising & to basically observe effective title phrases or swipe content that I could adopt elsewhere in IM. TE has never otherwise benefited me in the least, except given me complete immunity to the effects of IM advertising & the hatred for industrial scale email pestilence.

    I am always prepared to live & learn something new every day. Today & tomorrow's tomorrows are no exception to this rule. If I do not stumble on the correct formula within a reasonable time period, I shall just invest my time & energy elsewhere. This I have already started to do due to the complete boredom that TE presents me. However, there is no way I would even think about putting anyone else off using TE just that I have not experienced any obvious advantages as yet.
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  • it is garbage traffic but you can get leads from it. They are few and far between so you have to advertise on a bunch of them like crazy. But don't sit there and click all day. Buy a bot that does it for you. Yeah that is cheating but it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author travisegan
    It is my belief that just about any traffic strategy can be effective if implemented properly and with the proper motivation. What is more difficult is for a newbie like me to find the steps for proper implementation of the TE strategy. I sincerely appreciate the insights and discussion of this forum. Thanks so much.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adenan
    traffic exchange is not my favourite ways to get traffic..because too many people using it & it's like junk traffic..not worth the time you spent on it..
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  • Profile picture of the author Denver guy
    I spent a good year with traffic exchanges and have found all your doing is advertising to advertisers. I made some awesome splash pages, did the whole making an image for myself thing, attended webinars and so on. With me in college full time, I don't have hours upon hours to spend surfing the exchanges to get a couple of hundred views on my ad only to have someone just click on the next ad and not even consider what I have. Basically, if you have all day to just sit and surf and nothing else going on in your life and want to try to get someone to buy your product or sign up under you then go ahead, I for one have other things that need to be done such as College education. I already know how to run a business, I know all about the whole ROI and so on. I am not knocking TE's down, I am just saying I don't want to be spending all my time getting views and that's it.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Lee
    I have never had any luck with them. My personal opinion is that you would be better served by using that time and energy on more mainstream marketing.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mo Jogee
    In my opinion, waste of time. Even free offers are hard to convert, you gotta remember people are on there for one thing and that's to find a product that gives them more traffic! Hope that makes sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author vicone
    DON'T use TEs for Adsense pages as Google will pounce on you and cancel your account.

    Traffic Exchanges are useful if you know how to use them.

    Have a closer look at what I said about them in my earlier post #204 above.

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  • Profile picture of the author cjshu99
    If you check out website statistics on some of the most popular trafficexchanges you will see it is declining. I think the traffic exchange owner is the only one making money there. Almost everyone there is trying to sell something or get you to opt in or join there site. Not many buyers there. When I used them I was surfing for credits barely looking at any of the websites being shown.

    I guess maybe if you buy credits and create a couple of eye catching splash pages you could get a few signups to your list
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  • Profile picture of the author crlsgrc
    Not really in my experience. It does seem to work if you're promoting something related to getting traffic or to Internet marketing.

    If you do use a traffic exchange I would recommend using a lead capture page to get their email address and follow up with them.

    Because most people at traffic exchanges just want to get credit and move onto the next site.

    If you have a good lead capture page they can just put in their email and you won't lose them because they don't have to scroll through a long sales letter like a lot of people put up at the traffic exchanges.
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  • Profile picture of the author Archimedes
    Traffic Exchanges work. Depends on what you are using it for. And how you are using it. Don't expect quality traffic, tho, because it isn't. And don't expect to make a killing just because you're getting lotsa traffic - you won't make money directing the TE traffic to a sales page. Most TE trafficis advertiser to advertiser traffic. You can use TE traffic to build a list, albeit slowly, and you can use it to generate traffic to a site to help boost traffic numbers for a site.
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    15 years later.....They work!
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  • Profile picture of the author kevin timothy
    Traffic exchanges do work. I've even discovered some great opportunities (and joined) in TE...which kinda proves that they work, right? :confused:

    If your time windows and budget can afford them I'd say use them. I have and still do, I just stick to a few quality ones and that's that.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Braybrooke
    The endless promotional emails and 'urgent' reminders that traffic exchanges send out can drive one nuts! Kitschy, junky blah!! If that's your thing, then have a nice day..
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  • Profile picture of the author Cheeth
    My VA recently used traffic exchanges on my site which brought a good amount of traffic in, too early days to see if it converts.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeromyS
    There are a number of problems with TE,

    They are often general and your link gets thrown into a 'pit' with all sorts of other totally unrelated sites, multiple languages, etc. Not always the case, but the cheaper the service the more true this becomes.

    TE may bring traffic, but it doesn't necessarily attract the 'right traffic', such as buying traffic or interested or interactive traffic.

    I'd be more inclined to go with the many forms of CPA or PPC traffic generation available. Adwords, Adsense, Facebook, any most big services can narrow down your target audience to the point of ensuring the traffic you get, it traffic you want.
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  • Profile picture of the author olulola
    Don't pay for any service that brings you traffic. Building traffic yourself is the best way. Guest blog and comment for reputable websites in your niche and build relationships. In this way you are building quality links and acquiring the right traffic. Rome wasn't built in a day it takes time to achieve results.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicolas simpson
    only makes sense if its targeted traffic, otherwise its jus doing more harm than good
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  • Profile picture of the author missmystery
    Sorry for bringing an old thread to life, I think there's some interesting comments in here - and want to thank those who contributed.

    Also I want to keep tabs on the thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author masterh
    I haven't tried traffic exchange, but have heard that as the traffic is not niche specific, it's hard to convert upon. But, think of something which everyone would want, something which is a Basic Need (Check Maslow's Hierarchy of Basic Needs, for that ), and that might just work.

    Just my 2 cents. I'm no Pro.
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  • Profile picture of the author cowloc
    I tried ithem and no results, still looking for something that works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marshallsbiz
    The only TE that has shown any return for me in the past is Traffic Swarm, but even there you will be hard pressed to warrant their upgrade fee ($30/month or $240 yearly) I chose to upgrade for the year which works out to $20 per month, but even at that price point I am finding it difficult to break even on my costs month to month.
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  • Profile picture of the author cjshu99
    I tried it and no results, still looking for something that works.
    What kind of results were you looking for? Selling a product? Building a list?

    Traffic Exchanges do what they are designed to do. Get views to your website.

    PS. I wonder what kind of money the guys who run these make? Just curious.
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