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Unread 4th June 2011, 09:11 AM   #1
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Salutations all.

I was just wondering what your thoughts on this topic are.

Traffic exchanges have been around since about the same time as Google, and hundreds of thousands of people use them every week.

I know, like everything else in internet marketing, that there is an art and a science to getting them to work properly.

What are your thoughts on traffic exchanges?

Do they work?

What is your experience with them?

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My experience is complete JUNK, Yes they will get you traffic but its JUNK traffic I personally would steer clear of them as I have never seen one convert.

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Untargeted traffic is absolutely useless and does nothing for your business except mess up your analytics.

Traffic exchanges fall into that category IMHO.

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Never seen one convert? LOL

Lemme guess....Twenty page long sales copy, promises of affiliate riches, oh yes, don't forget your SEO friendly ad copy.

Using traffic exchanges is pretty simple....Create something that grabs people's attention, brand yourself, and build your list.

I've been using them without ANY other form of advertising for 13 years now....Haven't needed anything else.

But stay ignorant...We love it and our industry grows and prospers while the 'IM community' finds a new fad every 6 months.

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Hey Neil...Live in the market, not the spreadsheet.

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Jon Olsen Your a nice sarcastic name calling know it all arn't you

I posted my opinion and my experience of using traffic exchanges which I am entitled, and don't need to be insulted by you for having my own opinion

Get a life and stop insulting people if you have nothing positive to say STFU

You have a thousand posts and should know better why not just say I have been using them for 13 years and they work great for me, instead you insult and attack people. SAD SAD SAD Get a life

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LOL Yup, glad to see the Warrior Forum is still the same.

You called my business 'JUNK', so excuse me for being a little defensive.

You are ignorant to traffic exchanges, just say 'I don't know cause I don't use them properly'....

Easy.

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Tell that to the Adwords marketers that have lost their shirts

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Yeah sorry, not a fan of Ad Words and wouldn't waste my time with SEO.

I prefer social, talking to live people, getting to know members...Hands on stuff you know.

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LOL Yup, glad to see the Warrior Forum is still the same.

You called my business 'JUNK', so excuse me for being a little defensive.

You are ignorant to traffic exchanges, just say 'I don't know cause I don't use them properly'....

Easy.
Of course it makes sense now as that's what your trying to sell to people and as far as me not knowing how to use them maybe but then again I know lots of people who also think they are JUNK are you going to bash on all of them that confirm it here.

My opinion is still its COMPLETE JUNK untargeted traffic and a waste of time, now if you can prove me wrong I'm man enough to say I'm wrong and eat some humble pie.

Just never seen it work for anyone and I been around a while.

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Untargeted traffic is absolutely useless and does nothing for your business except mess up your analytics.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "untargeted traffic".

Traffic exchanges are about as targeted as it gets, I think.

Everyone who is using a traffic exchange is there to make money online.

Hence, they are in the "make money online" niche.

With proper targeting of your advertising, any source of traffic can be an absolute goldmine, right?

So, why are traffic exchanges any different?

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Just never seen it work for anyone and I been around a while.
I don't know... But, according to some 3rd party tracking statistics, over 300,000 people use them every week... Marketing to "nobody" sure works out pretty well some times

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LOL Trying to sell? Traffic exchanges in the Warrior Forum? LOLOL Man oh man, I gave that up in 2006. Too many experts here trying to pitch you the latest affiliate marketing revolution.

Prove you wrong? You already have your mind made up. But seeing that traffic exchanges have been around since about 1998...I guess 'time in market' would prove that. Yup, that's right when Google was getting their 'plan in order' traffic exchanges were vibrant active communities.

As for them working for people...Like everything online, if you don't learn how to market to a niche, you won't get results.

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Here's some things to consider when it comes to traffic exchanges:

Thousands of new marketers join traffic exchanges everyday looking for ways to create income online drawn to traffic exchanges because of their low starting costs for advertising.

And it only makes since for more experienced marketers to at least get in front of this ever growing market place to build upon their brand. I am talking about instant access to some of the most impressionable minds that you will ever have access to.

Many do not have their own websites, are not building their email lists, do not understand SEO, PPC, etc. You are missing the boat in a big way by not trying to fully understand how you can effectively use this source of traffic for your business. Even from a branding stand point.

While promoting your squeeze page offers, you are getting your name out in front of thousands of new marketers that may just one day buy your high end product just because they saw your name and followed your advice in the beginning.

Not to mention even marketers like Mike Filsaime got their start using traffic exchanges, recall instant buzz?

Disclaimer: I happen to be a TE owner so I am partial to shedding positive light on them. That being said I used them with great success long before becoming an owner myself.

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Yeah the traffic is a bit dodgy but you just have to think why they are there. They are trying to get visitors to their site so sell something that helps with that. That is just a guess though, don't use em
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Yeah the traffic is a bit dodgy but you just have to think why they are there. They are trying to get visitors to their site so sell something that helps with that. That is just a guess though, don't use em
Thanks for your response.

I'd have to agree with that for the most part. (aside from the "dodgy" part)

It seems to be just like any other form of advertising - just a matter of targeting the ads to the specific niche.

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LOL How is it dodgy?

You talk to live members.

Surf in a community.

Discuss what is being advertised.

And have complete focus on your ads.

Ignorance..If you don't use them and are a part of the community, you shouldn't judge them. If you want to see why they have been around for over a decade....Try them out, properly.

But be warned....It will take effort and time. A little bit of elbow grease.

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Here's some things to consider when it comes to traffic exchanges:

Thousands of new marketers join traffic exchanges everyday looking for ways to create income online drawn to traffic exchanges because of their low starting costs for advertising.

And it only makes since for more experienced marketers to at least get in front of this ever growing market place to build upon their brand. I am talking about instant access to some of the most impressionable minds that you will ever have access to.

Many do not have their own websites, are not building their email lists, do not understand SEO, PPC, etc. You are missing the boat in a big way by not trying to fully understand how you can effectively use this source of traffic for your business. Even from a branding stand point.

While promoting your squeeze page offers, you are getting your name out in front of thousands of new marketers that may just one day buy your high end product just because they saw your name and followed your advice in the beginning.

Not to mention even marketers like Mike Filsaime got their start using traffic exchanges, recall instant buzz?

Disclaimer: I happen to be a TE owner so I am partial to shedding positive light on them. That being said I used them with great success long before becoming an owner myself.
You make some valid points but again you have a vested interest in being positive about it, I would like to see some posts from people who are successful in using it as you describe. It was a few years ago I tried it and contrary to what Mr Olsen is saying if something has changed Im happy to listen but my experience is Traffic Exchanges Prey on newbies and those looking to try and get traffic to their new sites so they sign up for these systems and then end up saying I got lots of traffic but nothing converted.

Now yes because they are new maybe there page was not optimized but I really have never heard a good thing about them from someone other than those hawking it that have had any success,

Maybe we will get some here.

And as for you young Sir why not try it yourself and see what the results are I think you may have a different view once you try it yourself.

And Jon since we are all so ignorant on how to use a TE correctly why not show us, nothing better than proving me wrong, now that means I have an open mind and am willing to listen.

What sort of offers convert best ? give an example

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LOL How is it dodgy?

You talk to live members.

Surf in a community.

Discuss what is being advertised.

And have complete focus on your ads.

Ignorance..If you don't use them and are a part of the community, you shouldn't judge them. If you want to see why they have been around for over a decade....Try them out, properly.

But be warned....It will take effort and time. A little bit of elbow grease.
Your talking about your own product now correct which actually looks like something a little different to past TE that we have seen.

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Squeeze and splash pages.

Branding your self, and building your list.

Everything else, will get horrid conversions. And it's expected because people are taught to promote generic affiliate links, and build someone else's business.

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Your talking about your own product now correct which actually looks like something a little different to past TE that we have seen.

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The past year or two has seen a big change int he way 'traffic' is delivered in this business. But the model is still the same...I look at your website, you look at mine.

We have gone social in the T.E.'s. The ability to connect directly, in a live environment, has helped us show that this traffic isn't so bad when you put the community first.

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All I know is simple. Traffic = Money.

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You make some valid points but again you have a vested interest in being positive about it, I would like to see some posts from people who are successful in using it as you describe. It was a few years ago I tried it and contrary to what Mr Olsen is saying if something has changed Im happy to listen but my experience is Traffic Exchanges Prey on newbies and those looking to try and get traffic to their new sites so they sign up for these systems and then end up saying I got lots of traffic but nothing converted.

Now yes because they are new maybe there page was not optimized but I really have never heard a good thing about them from someone other than those hawking it that have had any success,

Maybe we will get some here.

And as for you young Sir why not try it yourself and see what the results are I think you may have a different view once you try it yourself.

And Jon since we are all so ignorant on how to use a TE correctly why not show us, nothing better than proving me wrong, now that means I have an open mind and am willing to listen.

What sort of offers convert best ? give an example

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Hey Gaz, appreciate you being open minded here. There has been a huge shift spear headed by a handful of owners that has changed the effectiveness of traffic exchanges by bringing personal branding and a social element into the experience.

It boils down to the fact that we buy from who we know, like, and trust online. A hand full of savvy owners who are fully aware of this, sought to make changes to their traffic exchanges. Thus those programs have evolved into social traffic networks that allow for like minded individuals leverage that power to grow their businesses.

Here is a recent video interview I did with Sterling Valentine who recently came back to and experienced for himself the difference in these new social traffic networks:

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Can't recommend traffic exchanges, you'll only get useless traffic. Targeted visitors is what you want, and you can get these through improving your rankings on the search engines or using ppc.

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Can't recommend traffic exchanges, you'll only get useless traffic. Targeted visitors is what you want
As wisely oberved in a few posts above, traffic exchange traffic is targeted.

Many of the people who have had bad experiences with traffic exchanges have mis-used them; some have misunderstood them completely. (Nothing surprising there, I think: the same could equally truthfully be stated about almost every facet of internet marketing).

If you're promoting a product about "how to get extra traffic to your website", then traffic exchange traffic is highly targeted, isn't it? There's no point in criticising traffic as "untargeted" if you're trying to sell something that those people aren't already looking for, is there? This is just "Marketing 101", surely?

With Traffic Exchange traffic, there's maybe no point in trying to sell anything directly. My understanding is that the people doing well with it (and some are adding 100 double opted-in leads per day to their lists) are using it simply as well-designed list-building, offering something of value to traffic-seekers. If you try to use it in other, different ways - well: "it's" just not going to work, is it - or rather, "your business" isn't going to work with it.

Nobody's going to convince me that adding 100 double-opted-in people to a list per day can't become a good source of income, or that it's all "traffic" rather than "buying traffic": to me, this makes no sense at all.

There are people starting threads (here and elsewhere) all the time saying "Article Marketing doesn't work any more". And when you look at what they're doing, it transpires that they're spinning and mass-submitting articles to article directories, using software, without even publishing the articles themselves first on their own site, and then sometimes they're further compounding the damage by putting their time, energy and resources into building backlinks to article directories instead of to their own sites. And naturally enough, quite a common conclusion from them to make, from their own experiences, is that "article marketing doesn't work any more". And they say so, right here, very repeatedly. :p

What does this have to do with traffic exchanges? It's just an analogy: exactly the same thing's true of traffic exchanges, too, isn't it? They also "don't work" for people who don't know how to use them and are promoting products/services inappropriate to that sort of traffic.

However many people say "this is untargeted traffic" and "keep away from this traffic", they can't change the reality that (as discussed here in several other threads) some Warriors are adding several hundred names per week to their lists, and making five-figure monthly incomes from this same traffic. Like everything else, it's what you make of it.

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Alexa - THANK YOU! That was one of the best posts I have ever read in this forum in a long long time. =)

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As wisely oberved in a few posts above, traffic exchange traffic is targeted.

Many of the people who have had bad experiences with traffic exchanges have mis-used them; some have misunderstood them completely. (Nothing surprising there, I think: the same could equally truthfully be stated about almost every facet of internet marketing).

If you're promoting a product about "how to get extra traffic to your website", then traffic exchange traffic is highly targeted, isn't it? There's no point in criticising traffic as "untargeted" if you're trying to sell something that those people aren't already looking for, is there? This is just "Marketing 101", surely?

With Traffic Exchange traffic, there's maybe no point in trying to sell anything directly. My understanding is that the people doing well with it (and some are adding 100 double opted-in leads per day to their lists) are using it simply as well-designed list-building, offering something of value to traffic-seekers. If you try to use it in other, different ways - well: "it's" just not going to work, is it - or rather, "your business" isn't going to work with it.

Nobody's going to convince me that adding 100 double-opted-in people to a list per day can't become a good source of income, or that it's all "traffic" rather than "buying traffic": to me, this makes no sense at all.

There are people starting threads (here and elsewhere) all the time saying "Article Marketing doesn't work any more". And when you look at what they're spinning and mass-submitting articles to article directories, using software, without even publishing them themselves first, and then sometimes further compounding the damage by putting their time, energy and resources into building backlinks to article directories instead of to their own sites. And naturally enough, quite a common conclusion from them to make, from their own experiences, is that "article marketing doesn't work any more". And they say so, right here, very repeatedly. :p

What does this have to do with traffic exchanges? Well, it's an analogy: exactly the same thing's true of traffic exchanges, too, isn't it? They also "don't work" for people who don't know how to use them and are promoting products/services inappropriate to that sort of traffic.

However many people say "this is untargeted traffic" and "keep away from this traffic", they can't change the fact that (as discussed here in several other threads) some Warriors are adding several hundred names per week to their lists, and making five-figure monthly incomes from this same traffic. Like everything else, it's what you make of it.
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Well, I know there is quite a community of people who have been successful with traffic exchanges. Otherwise, how would only a small handful of them have an average of 331,585 active users every week?

How would the top few exchanges get an average of almost 7,500 new members every week?

The stats tell me that SOMEONE has to be getting good results with them.

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It was a few years ago I tried it and contrary to what Mr Olsen is saying if something has changed Im happy to listen but my experience is Traffic Exchanges Prey on newbies and those looking to try and get traffic to their new sites so they sign up for these systems and then end up saying I got lots of traffic but nothing converted.
Yea, I think they changed a lot since then.

Now, they are much more about building relationships than building nameless, faceless visitors.

The reason why so many "newbies" fail with traffic exchanges is because they are marketing with the old mindset of "I need to get this many people to see my long sales page, and then one fourth of a section of a pie chart will buy "x" copies of this, and then..."

That's the old way of using traffic exchanges.

The new way is by engaging the market and forming profitable business relationships with people who you know, like, and trust. The reason TE's are so powerful nowadays is because they are such a wonderful tool to brand your name and face, and to connect with the marketplace. The combination of these two things makes it incredibly simple to get people to know, like, and trust you.

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Now yes because they are new maybe there page was not optimized but I really have never heard a good thing about them from someone other than those hawking it that have had any success,

Maybe we will get some here.

And as for you young Sir why not try it yourself and see what the results are I think you may have a different view once you try it yourself.
Well, actually, I've built lists of thousands using only traffic exchanges and a few other, similar advertising sources.

Now, I know, "thousands" may not really be that much...

But, for a 14 year old only doing this for less than a year...

Well, if I can use traffic exchanges to do that, then anyone can.

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Whoooo so much details about TE. I get to know many insights about this. Frankly I get some leads too from a TE. Not much but yes there are leads.
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I'm not a Traffic Exchange (TE) owner, but a TE user who also uses safelists and viral mailers for advertising purposes. Being a Business Management major and having worked for several corporations (also I'm a Six Sigma Green Belt, if that means anything to those of you in the business world), I've done tons of slicing/dicing type analysis and am well aware of the benefits they have. While this is not a strength of the TE industry (yet), there are a few TE's out there that do allow a bit of segmentation (mostly geographical). Just gotta do your homework to find those and take advantage of what they have for you.

The socializing part that is mentioned in several of the previous applies is quickly become a strength of the TE industry. Why? Using any/all means to expose yourself to the public is huge, regardless of industry...regardless of what you're advertising. The TE industry is quickly figuring out that if you use social media (like Twitter and Facebook, among others), the exposure is a great way to gain customers and improve your reputation in the industry. Gary Vaynerchuk (author/wine guru/social media guru) has nothing to do with the TE industry, but his passion for the social tools and their benefits are quickly making their way into the TE industry. I'm doing it myself (still tons of room for improvement), plus I put my name and face on all of the "splash pages" I make for what I advertise (aka branding myself -- another "term" the TE industry is starting to adopt). So, when folks see my advertising, they recognize me from my socializing and (hopefully) are more likely to at least review what I'm advertising.
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Absolutely JUNK! There's no way that you are getting quality traffic there. I am still surprised that my friend is still using it to promote any sites or referral links to the PTC sites he joined......still his FAVORITE traffic source. Hahaha!

As for most of us, we don't use these trash sources of traffic.
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Absolutely JUNK! There's no way that you are getting quality traffic there. I am still surprised that my friend is still using it to promote any sites or referral links to the PTC sites he joined......still his FAVORITE traffic source. Hahaha!

As for most of us, we don't use these trash sources of traffic.
The best indication of knowing you are doing something right... haters.

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Absolutely JUNK! There's no way that you are getting quality traffic there. I am still surprised that my friend is still using it to promote any sites or referral links to the PTC sites he joined......still his FAVORITE traffic source. Hahaha!

As for most of us, we don't use these trash sources of traffic.
Let me ask you a question:

Do you have anything to back up what you're saying?

Or are you just spreading rhetoric about an advertising source you don't know how to properly use?

If email lists of thousands of active, engaged subscribers can be gotten from traffic exchanges, then what makes you say they are "trash" sources of traffic?

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Hey Gaz, appreciate you being open minded here. There has been a huge shift spear headed by a handful of owners that has changed the effectiveness of traffic exchanges by bringing personal branding and a social element into the experience.

It boils down to the fact that we buy from who we know, like, and trust online. A hand full of savvy owners who are fully aware of this, sought to make changes to their traffic exchanges. Thus those programs have evolved into social traffic networks that allow for like minded individuals leverage that power to grow their businesses.

Here is a recent video interview I did with Sterling Valentine who recently came back to and experienced for himself the difference in these new social traffic networks:

Day 2: Listbuilding Video Training with Sterling Valentine & John Guanzon

And one with Jon Olson:

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I am certain that other non-owners will join this convo and share their insights.
Hey John

Looks like things have changed over the years, and it seems for the better. After checking your site out, I can totally see the value using it as a LIST BUILDER with a squeeze page, and I think I had totally blanked traffic exchanges out of my mind after using them years ago before squeeze pages were around and I just never put the 2 together but can see the potential with the changes made.

I still think its a tough sell and your squeeze page better be real good to grab someones interest in just a few seconds before they click on the next site especially if they are trying to build credits.

Its cheap enough to give it a shot and see what the opt in rate is and give TE another shot as a list building option.

Like I say I always have an open mind and am always happy to give something another try if I am shown things may have changed as is the case here.

The other thing to learn here is how Jon reacted to my initial post and how you reacted, jon attacked me for my opinion, when you took the time to point out some positive points and educate rather than alienate and that is why you will get my business rather than Jon.

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@ Gaz np! Feel free to add me on skype, if you have any questions or need some advice on what would work best within the exchanges let me know, would be more than happy to help out.

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Ha ha ha ha How about you don't call someone's life work 'junk' and see if that gets a different reaction. Sir, I was defending my business, you started the 'attack' but yeah....Doesn't matter.

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For the record, Jon is a stand up guy, good friend, awesome mentor, and savvy business mind. Dunno about anyone else but someone who shows that much passion for something, I feel usually always has the best kind of experience and knowledge to share.

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Jared and all,
If I had been asked this question a year ago I would have said that I had never tried to use traffic exchanges and that I would have little desire to do so.

I believed - quite wrongly as it turned out - that they could not possibly work because those surfing were just mindlessly clicking away for credits so they could show their adverts to others who were just mindlessly clicking away for credits.

Then a few months ago a very successful marketer whom I much admire in this industry (and who is not a traffic exchange owner) asked me: “Have you heard of ThumbVu?”
“No,” I replied, “Should I have. What is it?”

It transpired that ThumnbVu was a social traffic exchange where advertisers can do two things at once; advertise and also engage in meaningful two-way dialogue with other advertisers.

Not only that but it also allows you, the traffic exchange surfer, to choose the adverts you are going to watch, rate them should you wish to do so (a simple thumbs up/thumbs down system is used) and, get this, obtain instant access the advertiser’s contact details.

Within just hours of using this traffic exchange any notions I may have had that these things did not work were dispelled but it took me a few weeks to fully understand the real power that traffic exchanges actually have.

I started advertising one squeeze page at first - a pretty standard page with no reference to me or my name or my photograph - and it worked because I put names on my list.

Then I discovered that the people getting the best results were being a little more proactive than me. They were putting their name on their squeeze page, adding a photo, adding video while at the same time actively taking part in the chat functions of the exchange in question.

I did the only thing I could do in the circumstances. I tried to forget about my natural shyness and I copied them. Soon I had multiple squeeze and splash pages up and running - all with my name and picture - some with live pages from my blog and, most recently, one with a video of me wearing a blonde wig and a green feather boa. At the same time I became active in ThumbVu chat.

So what happened? Well lets ignore the direct advertising element of a social traffic exchange for a moment and concentrate on the chat function for a moment. Whether you are in a traffic exchange, a checkout queue, a waiting room, a party, anywhere really, if you talk to people and are nice to them they will generally talk back. And if you chat to a stranger for a while the conversation will either naturally fizzle out or you will find things in common and want to chat more.

Now back to ThumbVu and lets re-introduce the advertising element of TEs . I became active in the chat room and others got to know me as a person while, at the same time, looking at my pages. People were seeing my picture on the pages and asking me about what I was promoting in chat and the easy access of contact information means that many people took the option of adding me to Skype, Facebook, Twitter and the like so we could continue our dialogue outside of the traffic exchanges.

And during this time I am also getting signups to the pages I advertise so getting names on my list while at the same time building friendships and possibly meeting future business partners and this makes social traffic exchanges a pretty useful marketing tool. In fact if you are new to marketing I would suggest that traffic exchanges are the very first thing you should try.

Next I found that Sweeva and I Love Hits also have social elements built in and I also found the same results there. I sometimes put a page of my blog up on Sweeva - yes you can advertise a blog on a traffic exchange and don’t let anybody tell you differently - and it does get me sign ups to my list. Here is one comment I got on Sweeva recently: “Welcome blogger chap, nice splash page, lots of good info.”

Junk traffic? - absolute nonsense.
Waste of time and effort? - absolute nonsense.
One of the best things I have ever done in online marketing? - absolutely.

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All the way back in 2000 I started using traffic exchanges and while at first yeah I made no money It was because I was focused on getting traffic and not about converting that traffic.

Since then I have smartened up and now use them and even own and manage a few of them. Our members are pleased with the results and the training they get. They get conversions of leads for their business and money in pocket all from a free or even a paid source of advertising.

While there are hundreds of traffic exchanges out there you do need to be careful what ones you use. Not all are created the same and not nearly managed as well as they should be. By finding the right exchanges to promote you squeeze pages and splash pages on you can build an income and make your first sale easier then you can with article marketing which I know many warriors on here are obsessed about.

While I would never only use traffic exchanges to build my business (don't put all your eggs in one basket) it is a viable source of quality traffic for the making money online niche and does convert nicely.

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Ha ha ha ha How about you don't call someone's life work 'junk' and see if that gets a different reaction. Sir, I was defending my business, you started the 'attack' but yeah....Doesn't matter.
My point is Jon that you are ANGRY at Warrior Forum and it comes over in your posts your frustrated with peoples perception of TE and instead of trying to educate people and advise them that there have been changes and treat people correct you take it personally and while YES i called it junk because that is what it was when I used it before but you have to suck it up my friend and instead of charging in like a bull in a china shop why not explain that things have changed and its more of a list builder now and branding of your product.

That is my point, you alienated me instead of doing what your friend did and take the time to point out the Positives and get me to take another look and see the changes and advise how it used these days.

Your approach is harsh and brash and that is not an attack, I am just saying how you come across, it looks like you may have something but if you attack everyone because they call your business junk all you do is alienate people more.

If you educate people and ask them to give TE another shot as thigns have changed then I think you will be a lot more successful in getting people to give TE's another chance.

I am glad I got into it with you, as I see the potential of the new TE and will give it a shot, but if John had not come into this thread then maybe I would of passed and still be bad mouthing TE instead of my point of view now which is willing to give it a shot.

So next time someone calls your biz Junk take a deep breathe and be nice it will work a lot better for you.

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You would be interested to know Gaz that Chris Ferrell's affiliates promote his programs across a vast majority of traffic exchanges daily.

I don't know if he offers a list of traffic exchanges as possible affiliate venues along with the rest of his affiliate resources, but that is a good example of how more established marketers can leverage the exchanges to build their brand and business.

Consider traffic exchange optimized squeeze or splash pages for affiliates to promote in hand selected traffic exchanges. In most cases you could earn commissions for those referrals, credits from those referrals surfing efforts, and tons of brand exposure for your products or services leveraged from their efforts.

The audience is there in droves, it just takes that extra bit of research like it does with any traffic strategy to work out the best game plan. I worked along side Simon Leung back in 07 for a while and learned alot about adwords marketing, doesn't mean I got awesome results out the gate. It took tracking, testing, tweaking, and repeating

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@Patrickgriffin Awesome post, great story, and thank you for the kind words sir!

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Hmmm Do Traffic Exchanges Work??

Yes they sure do if you use them properly.If you think that you can just sign up to a TE and throw a corporate splash page or capture page out there and you are going to have people running to sign up into your deal you are sadly mistaken.

Do me a favor grab a stick tie a piece of string on it and put a hook on the end of it.Now go to your favorite fishing hole and see how many fish you catch.Probably not to many,you might get lucky and snag a few but you are not going to catch any.

The TE's do work if you going into them with the mindset of branding yourself and building relationships by using them as another form of Social Media and STOP just blasting links out there.

I myself have used them for over 7 years and have built teams into the 1,000's.Just like anything else,there is a right way and a wrong way.Remember this folks people join people!!!

Bottom line is they do work...
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Ok I joined the te world 2 yrs ago. Nope not to get traffic to my site(s), I was doing alright with that playing in all the upcoming socializing sites. I joined cause my dad wanted me too at the time he was very ill due to the chemo he was getting for his cancer. So anything to keep dad happy I did. So I joined this site called startxchange, started chatting with dad & his friends there. The more I chatted the more people paid attention to my site, oh & hey it wasn't costing me anything to advertise there just chat & surf. Totally amazing like playing on facebook, myspace,mylot & yuwie click post click post click post. I have made many friends & built a pretty good following using te's especially the ones with chats. I did all this WITHOUT building a "list" Many of the people who follow me into programs I have never seen chat anywhere they are not all that social, but the watch the chats & friend feeds on the social sites They don't join these programs cause they are on page 1 in google, they don't join because someone is giving them a gift, They join because I joined they join because I like a site they join cause they see the results I get. They join because I let my true colors shine through I can be sweet as pie or mean as hell No false marketer here So far the haters I see in this thread are pushing ebooks autoresponders & gimicks to take a newbies money for as long as you can sucker them into paying for what ever you think is the newest hottest thing to market is that you spew will get them results & yea it gets them a few then peters out & they quit

You are not going to convince those of us who have used te's for yrs & get results that they are junk cause we know better we know the long term results you get from te's can not be bought I personally do not use search sites to find programs so I will never see your site via that marketing technique I join them through te's & people I have met, know & have built a relationship with.

Jon is very passionate about te's & over all online marketing I should know he & I had a meeting of the minds not all that long ago ourselves Had I been here earlier I would have been right there with him giving you what for. Though I din't join te's to get traffic to begin with I have learned a lot about marketing since I joined them & from what I see some of you could learn a few things yourself
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traffic exchangees can work i guess but only for some niches..
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traffic exchangees can work i guess but only for some niches..
It works for any niche internet marketing related as well as niches targeted to internet marketers. Just all depends on how you put your spin on it to get the audiences attention.

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i'm was planning on do a bit of traffic exchange my self, however i changed my mind after i was told that its not so useful as 5 years ago. its slowly dying out now.

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i'm was planning on do a bit of traffic exchange my self, however i changed my mind after i was told that its not so useful as 5 years ago. its slowly dying out now.
They are not dying out they are growing daily They are becoming more & more social everyday they are more popular then forums People can market in real time They are even out doing paid to click sites
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I tried this twice. Once in 2001 and once in 2007, and it was "JUNK" as already mentioned. You are better of using your time and resources on something that 10,000s of people agree actually works.
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