Another Reason Long Video Sales Pitches are Bad

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Was just watching a loooong video sales letter for a new launch, got to the order request and I thought to myself, I'm not sure I really caught 'what's in it for me" amongst the half-hour of hype.

So I wanted to review that again. However, there is ...

- No text
- No written summary
- No rewind option for the video - either go forward or start the half-hour over again.

Sigh.

So I clicked the close button on my browser.

Sometimes I think many videos, either as sales pitches or even as products, are simply for the convenience of the seller to make something faster without the care needed for written material. It's not for the buyer.

I'm not saying video does not have its place or is not valuable. But it's not the end all either.

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  • Profile picture of the author The Wizard of Oz
    Those 'no rewind' vids are a right pain in the wotsis especially when they go forever. If you have any interest in the product at all, you need a millenium to find the part that you wanna take a closer look at ... Or give up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    Sometimes I think many videos, either as sales pitches or even as products, are simply for the convenience of the seller to make something faster without the care needed for written material. It's not for the buyer.
    Sometimes? How about most of the time? For every marketer who produces a well-organized, informative, and polished video, there are a hundred more who cannot be bothered to care about the viewer's needs and expectations.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Fernandez
      I completely agree! I think the combo sales video/letter is the best. But the video Must be controllable or it immediately puts a bad taste in my mouth!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Yeah a long sales video is a pain in the butt especially if it's 60 minutes and doesn't have a pause button. Usually you can just click the video and it will pause automatically but in some cases I've seen that you cannot even pause it. Not to mention they don't tell you the video is 60 minutes.

    What about bathroom breaks, or the phone ringing or someone at the door?

    For what it's worth, when I do sales videos I don't make them longer than 20 minutes. I include a pause button and I also include a text version of the message as a PDF download.

    I have just thought about trying something - adding a link at the bottom that says something to the effect of

    Video Too Long?
    Click here for the short version! OR Click here to download PDF transcript!

    That might have a drastic effect on the conversions for those who are getting sick and tired of long boring sales videos.

    PS. If it works for you remember that you heard it here first! (joking)
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Some patent troll is filing their protected procedure right now.

      Below said video (exhibit 1) is said link to text transcription (exhibit 2) of said video (exhibit 1) ...

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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        Some patent troll is filing their protected procedure right now.

        Below said video (exhibit 1) is said link to text transcription (exhibit 2) of said video (exhibit 1) ...

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        LOL ... someone will probably come out with a WSO on it in about 2 hours...

        "49 Tested Ways To Increase Your Video Sales Letter Conversions!"

        Now that would be amusing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        Some patent troll is filing their protected procedure right now.

        Below said video (exhibit 1) is said link to text transcription (exhibit 2) of said video (exhibit 1) ...
        Then they're SOL if they took the idea off of this thread...

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  • Profile picture of the author imback
    I prefer and have tested that both convert better

    Make sure the texts supports the video and is not completely different.


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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Brian,

    I hear you! Our own conversions are much higher when we use video and the written word. It's funny how many of these long-winded sales videos forget the basics such as W.I.I.F.M. (What's In It For Me). They think the M stand for "Marketer" instead of "Me" their target audience. lol

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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Barrs
    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    - No text
    - No written summary
    - No rewind option for the video - either go forward or start the half-hour over again.

    Sigh.
    These problems are right in line with the new Clickbank "unacceptable" basket with the new rules coming into play.

    We *don't* wonder why.

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  • Profile picture of the author Rach72
    I can't understand why marketers would insist on removing the controls in the first place - It p****s so many people off I can't believe that these styles of video convert enough people to make it worthwhile.

    Thank goodness CB is putting the kibosh on it
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  • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
    I do not understand too why they seemed to forget or perhaps never actually comprehended that those who watch the videos are probably doing so because they do not want to read long sales copy, thus they might want to cut to the chase and be able to fully manipulate the video themselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author bloomingrose
    I can't tell you how many of these long videos with no controls I have closed before I even get the pitch. Poor strategy with Internet marketers who tend to be independent minded and ADD.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammed Hammad2
    What I just love to see when I am in a sales page is a pitch video and below it there is some bullet point quickly explaining "what is in it for me" so I can go through quickly and to decide if I want to watch the pitch video or not!
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Brian,

      So I wanted to review that again. However, there is ...

      - No text
      - No written summary
      - No rewind option for the video - either go forward or start the half-hour over again.

      Sigh.

      So I clicked the close button on my browser.
      Therefore you weren't bowled over by that hypey pitch in one sitting and weren't willing to take a second look at the whole thing, therefore you had excluded yourself from their target market segment and may have ultimately refunded, or perhaps posted a poor review somewhere. Perhaps they don't want critical thinkers inside their funnel because those critical thinkers are also sellers in similar markets (case in point.)

      Those sellers will get to see how the funnel operates and may replicate certain aspects, thus saturating them. They may finally twig that the marketers are using a system specifically designed to isolate a certain portion of the market and focus all of their efforts upon monetising that portion, rather than approaching their market with a 'we must sell to as many prospects as possible' approach, which is more untargetted and has a downside which many aren't capable of recognising over their own desire to be targetted and wooed as a prospect.

      Have you noticed how some of the tackiest marketing operations manage to sell junk to a certain portion of the market for high prices? How they manage to get $20k out of them via a single boiler-room phone call for a load of hot air that's not worth $7?

      Why would they do this? Why would they want to isolate that portion of the market by insulting the rest of the market and driving them away? Is it because the rest of the market thinks more critically and would be mildly outraged at the methods used - enough perhaps to post about them on forums?

      Hi Gail,

      Sometimes? How about most of the time? For every marketer who produces a well-organized, informative, and polished video, there are a hundred more who cannot be bothered to care about the viewer's needs and expectations.
      With respect, perhaps they can be bothered. Perhaps they're deadly serious about applying effort to their marketing. But perhaps they choose to focus that effort directly towards a highly targetted portion of the market for entirely logical reasons, that many on this forum continually fail to understand, because they appear to be speaking from their 'consumer' mindset that wants all sellers to be out to seduce them?

      Perhaps your lifetime visitor value level is far too low for them because you're in a different, more advanced market segment demographic?

      Hi Paul,

      But the video Must be controllable or it immediately puts a bad taste in my mouth!
      In other words, it's highly effective. If it doesn't put a bad taste in your mouth, you're ideal - they're aiming for you. If it does, then you're not and they want rid of you ASAP.

      Hi Mike,

      What about bathroom breaks, or the phone ringing or someone at the door?
      If you can't hold it in or ignore the door, perhaps you're not hooked enough by the sales pitch?

      Hi Rach72,

      I can't understand why marketers would insist on removing the controls in the first place - It p****s so many people off I can't believe that these styles of video convert enough people to make it worthwhile.
      Because like many others, you're assuming that the best approach is more customers, as opposed to a higher lifetime visitor value (less customers of a specific type paying vastly more for the same type of products) and you're probably not considering that with this specific approach to business, those outside of the target segment need to be literally driven away as fast as possible.

      Hi bloomingrose,

      Poor strategy with Internet marketers who tend to be independent minded and ADD.
      But a great and highly effective strategy if 'internet marketers' are the people you want to drive away and clueless newbs are those that you want to capture in your funnel.
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      Ever wondered where all of those 'gurus' went who left here complaining that it was too much hassle trying to deal with people who demanded top quality products and service for $7, often refunding and posting poor reviews and complaining about tacky, hypey sales pitches while deliberately getting inside their sales funnel so that they could examine their processes with a fine-toothed comb?

      Are people starting to get this yet?

      It's not about you and your feelings, it's not about selling to as many prospects as possible, it's about maximising R.O.I. in a changing, maturing, busy marketplace.

      We are looking at these things through marketer's eyes here, aren't we?
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  • Profile picture of the author carloru
    Part of the problem with video ads is that the owners just assume that because it is video, it will sell the product.

    Sometimes, an ad owner needs to step back and look at his sales page from the prospect's standpoint, and not from their own standpoint. I have done this with a product of mine and I had cause to completely change the ad.

    Personally, I have found that the longer a video is, the more it will bore the customer and the likelihood of clicking the "close" button is higher. Personally, I want to be able to get the hang of a sales page in 2 minutes or less. Anything more than that is a waste of my time, especially if I am using a public cafe where I pay for every minute spent.

    I feel this is the same with prospects, so videos need to get everything into it in 2 minutes or less. Anything longer will not cut it.
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