Do Bum Marketing Still Work In 2012?

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Hi warrior,

Planning using bum marketing to promote clickbank product, but wondering is this still valid today.

Part of the plan is using redirect to a non im product.

Do advice me thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author doshmachine
    I'm British so unfortunately Bum Marketing sounds very funny to me and will probably last forever
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Bum marketing was working for years before anyone called it Bum marketing - as long as you use your brain and understand what is important for getting results - you can call it what you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Different people mean different things by "bum-marketing". (Especially in this forum - those who post on the subject are divided about 50/50 as to what they mean by it).

      If you mean "direct-linking from articles" and not building a list, then no: it's highly likely you won't sell a ClickBank product that way. "Negativity"? No, just realism.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5210243
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  • Profile picture of the author Student X
    I have to disagree with Alexa here.

    Well, I have to agree with what I think she means: if you write a bunch of articles, submit them to the various distribution services on the internet and put a link in the signature which redirects to the clickbank product, then, Alexa is right: it is highly unlikely you will make a sale this way - or atleast it would be very difficult to make a sale this way.

    However, so called "article marketing" like this isn't actually what "bum marketing" is all about.

    "Bum marketing" simply implies that you will be using completely free means to gaining your traffic, hosting your content and ultimately getting the sale.

    If you use my definition of bum marketing and approach the task from a different angle - and use free software and free video hosting sites and free ads sites to create a smashing advert for said clickbank product and then distribute your advert far and wide in the online world, with a clickable link to the product (cloaking the link would be advised), you've got a much better chance of making a sale!

    However I believe Alexa is trying to point you in the direction of building a list and then email marketing to that list.

    I strongly recommend doing this also.

    You see when you are new such as yourself, and you are newly starting a list, your opportunity comes from the relationships you build with your subscribers.

    So long as you are sincere and your focus is in the right place: caring about your customers and thier needs, then your subscribers will in time get to know your personality, get to know you, and grow to trust you.

    It is now common knowledge that people are more likely to buy from somebody they know and trust - and most people would prefer to buy something from somebody they know. This is what gives you your advantage when email marketing - so remember this at all times.

    I hope my answer was helpful for you,

    Student X

    Edit: Sorry Alexa I didn't see your link, and you put forward some very good advice in the post you linked to.
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    • Profile picture of the author debontheweb
      Originally Posted by Student X View Post

      I have to disagree with Alexa here.

      Well, I have to agree with what I think she means: if you write a bunch of articles, submit them to the various distribution services on the internet and put a link in the signature which redirects to the clickbank product, then, Alexa is right: it is highly unlikely you will make a sale this way - or atleast it would be very difficult to make a sale this way.

      However, so called "article marketing" like this isn't actually what "bum marketing" is all about.

      "Bum marketing" simply implies that you will be using completely free means to gaining your traffic, hosting your content and ultimately getting the sale.

      If you use my definition of bum marketing and approach the task from a different angle - and use free software and free video hosting sites and free ads sites to create a smashing advert for said clickbank product and then distribute your advert far and wide in the online world, with a clickable link to the product (cloaking the link would be advised), you've got a much better chance of making a sale!

      However I believe Alexa is trying to point you in the direction of building a list and then email marketing to that list.

      I strongly recommend doing this also.

      You see when you are new such as yourself, and you are newly starting a list, your opportunity comes from the relationships you build with your subscribers.

      So long as you are sincere and your focus is in the right place: caring about your customers and thier needs, then your subscribers will in time get to know your personality, get to know you, and grow to trust you.

      It is now common knowledge that people are more likely to buy from somebody they know and trust - and most people would prefer to buy something from somebody they know. This is what gives you your advantage when email marketing - so remember this at all times.

      I hope my answer was helpful for you,

      Student X

      Edit: Sorry Alexa I didn't see your link, and you put forward some very good advice in the post you linked to.
      Thanks for the points on building a list.. I hesitated about doing this for quite sometime but your RIGHT you have to create the YOU brand and show your customers that you care about them. Also thanks for the update on what Bum Marketing is.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketinguk
    I slightly beg to differ on this with Alexa. I have promoted clickbank products through this method and have made money without building a list, but genuinely reviewing the product and getting people to buy through my links. This does cost however, as you will have to pay for seo or work very hard yourself to get yourself noticed. So you can make money but it comes at a price through the organic results.
    However, i agree with the point about the list and as they all say the money is in the list. I fully concur with student x here.
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    • Profile picture of the author MattCatania
      Originally Posted by affilliate pro View Post

      I slightly beg to differ on this with Alexa. I have promoted clickbank products through this method and have made money without building a list, but genuinely reviewing the product and getting people to buy through my links. This does cost however, as you will have to pay for seo or work very hard yourself to get yourself noticed. So you can make money but it comes at a price through the organic results.
      However, i agree with the point about the list and as they all say the money is in the list. I fully concur with student x here.
      The whole 'build a list' advice that is oh so freely given out around here comes about because people who have experience building said lists know that the power of doing so is in recurring income generated from a prospect and buyers list. Multiple exposures to multiple products increase the chance of closing sales.

      As we all know - sales = $$$

      These lists act like targeted traffic on demand - at which you can readily send an email and have floods of traffic redirected to where ever you so wish.

      On the whole, this is the core reason as to why lists are preferred over selling a product to prospects that haven't yet been entered into one - the difference between the two (in terms of income) can be quite dramatic and could be the defining factor between a 'hobby' and running a 'business'.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlwaysAwa
    Thanks for all the reply. At this point i have no time for making friend (list building). Reason i need fast cash. I know i making huge mistake. Once ok, then going build a list. Sometime we must make fast stupid decision.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by AlwaysAwa View Post

      At this point i have no time for making friend (list building). Reason i need fast cash.
      I would try some CPA marketing, then - not ClickBank products. And good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author AlwaysAwa
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I would try some CPA marketing, then - not ClickBank products. And good luck!
        Thank alex for ur advice, but just rejected by a cpa. I truly understand the power of list building
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    • Profile picture of the author Student X
      Originally Posted by AlwaysAwa View Post

      Thanks for all the reply. At this point i have no time for making friend (list building). Reason i need fast cash. I know i making huge mistake. Once ok, then going build a list. Sometime we must make fast stupid decision.
      Trying to make money really really fast is a sure way to fail in most cases. Usually the long and steady route is actually the shortest route for good profitable business (and in fact most things in life, consider the kids in school who took thier time to become specialist doctors or lawyers - it took them a long time to achieve thier goals, but once completed they'll be looking at $200k a year).

      However, that is not to be said it can't be done and it can't be done well.

      As I'm in the mood of being Mr. Helpful today - I will give you a strategy to get you making money online fast.

      I'm guessing you genuinely need the money for a good reason, so I'm happy to do this for you, and you don't need to thank me. (But DO thank Almighty God!).


      Here is your plan of action:

      Task 1: Get yourself signed up to some CPA companies. Use this forum's search feature to find out which one's are good.

      Normally your application will need to be approved by the company who are brokering you the CPA leads - to speed this process up, give them a phone call and explain that you have a good offline base of followers (perhaps through clubs or publications) and you are planning on launching an online side to your followers soon and you want to use the CPA offers to advertise on your site.


      Task 2: Once accepted by a CPA company - you need to select FREE CPA offers - the one's which offer: a) Free Quotations b) Free Products (digital) c) Free Samples (non-digital, such as free sample of shampoo etc.)


      Task 3: Go and find Free Ad's sites.

      Gumtree, Craigslist and Facebook are some to name a few.

      (Facebook isn't a free-ad's site but it will be the way you are using it).


      Now, what you are going to be doing is targeting ALL of the "local area's" - ALL of them, and in each local area you are going to link to your Free Sample CPA.


      On Facebook you will find many groups called "XXXXXX Sell Your Items For Free" (where XXXXXX is obviously the town or city name).

      Free Ad's sites themselves have the option to target specific towns and cities also.


      Go to ALL of these places (potential here is huge, there are tonnes of towns and cities in the USA and UK!!!) and post a link to your Free Sample CPA Lead.


      Write the "ad copy" something like this:

      Hey freebie lovers! Just to let you know "XYZ company" is giving away samples of shampoo (or whatever) for free!! Get your's from here: (insert link). I've ordered mine already it was really quick and easy you just got to put in your address and they send it out to ya. I love getting free stuff like this


      Or something similar - your aim is look genuine and not like somebody who is trying to profit or look like a spammer.


      Give that a crack and you'll see some money rolling in pretty soon.

      Sorry I posted this for the whole world to see, but I can't send PM's yet so I had too.

      The beautiful thing about this is: 1) It won't take too long for your "free sample notice" to get off the front page of whatever site you are using, so you can post another one not too long after the first. and 2) Like I mentioned there is pretty much a free ad service for every single town and city in the UK and USA - that is A LOT of potential.


      I hope my post was helpful,

      Student X

      Edit: Beautiful thing about the system I put together for you number 3 - No offence but you can not spell in English very well (by the looks of your posts) - but this won't matter for you doing what I have told you to do - in fact, if anything, typing how you do will most likely look more authentic.

      Edit 2: I also agree with Matt's post - he speaks the truth so listen to him.
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  • Profile picture of the author ukcarl
    Personally I started out doing Bum marketing and it was the hardest work and least productive thing I ever did online, waste of time in my opinion on its own.

    You are better building a small site to promote the product and building links to it with bum marketing.

    In my opinion the link building potential from this method is much better than the traffic potential
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  • Profile picture of the author Marko87
    If you are looking for free cash then CPA could be a good route to go down. Remember Clickbank pays net 60 so even if you make 1k today, you'll have to wait a couple of months to get the payment.

    If you can't get into CPA networks (which isn't as hard as people make out) then I would suggest doing some freelance work doing things you are good at/can do. You'll get your money quickly that way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Marko87 View Post

      Remember Clickbank pays net 60 so even if you make 1k today, you'll have to wait a couple of months to get the payment.
      For the record, this is completely wrong. ClickBank does not wait until the expiry of the 60-day guarantee period before paying the affiliates. Payment (after meeting the customer distribution requirement, once, before the first payment) is either weekly or two-weekly.

      http://www.clickbank.com/help/affili...-getting-paid/
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulyC
    I've always thought BUM marketing meant using strategies that didn't require you to pay - such as articles, blogging, videos, etc...

    I think if this is what the OP meant then no, it will never stop working. The reason why is simple, they take time to create and this means they are going to organically help you acquire traffic that lasts much longer than anything you have to pay for.

    I've used paid strategies here and there, but not with any significant result... So sticking to free or 'BUM' techniques is what I'll keep doing.

    Hope that helps (if it was indeed what you meant by the term BUM)

    Good luck!

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author kasher9
    Bum marketing is just another way of saying free marketing, which still works in essence, you just have to expand on it exponentially to receive results. If you're looking for free money making methods, have a browse on youtube, surprisingly some people do post info on there not just to make some moolah.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by kasher9 View Post

      Bum marketing is just another way of saying free marketing
      It just isn't, Kasher.

      It refers to something specific, a method of article marketing based on attemptiong to use article directories for their own traffic (no longer works well, post-Panda, of course).

      The original "Bum Marketing" book was written and published (and available free) from a well-known marketer called Travis, who's a Warrior himself and sometimes posts here. Although the specific method has clearly seen better days, his material is well worth reading in itself for his insights into many related matters.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlwaysAwa
    My mistake guy and thanks for the reply. Bum marketing here refer to article marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOexperto
    Article marketing does work , but not as it used to be . Now video marketing is way better , as for example you can rank youtube video quite easy at page 1 . I did a test few weeks ago , I made one quality video about clickbank product , uploaded it to youtube ( targeted product name) did a lot of scrapebox and xrumer links to the video and volia . My video stuck on #2 position and i got quite a few sales , as I always target upcoming products .
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