So many pointless blogs...

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When do you think something or someone will do something about all these pointless blogs that have only been created for SEO. I'm talking about the super low quality ones... we've all seen them. It is getting a bit silly now...

Anyone else's thoughts?

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  • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
    I was that mad I made a typo in the title.... it should be So many pointless blogs....

    If there are any mods can you change it :-)

    My first post and my dyslexia gets the better of me!
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    • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
      Originally Posted by digijoltman View Post

      I was that mad I made a typo in the title.... it should be So many pointless blogs....

      If there are any mods can you change it :-)

      My first post and my dyslexia gets the better of me!
      You don't need a mod for that.
      Go > Edit your first post > switch Go advanced > edit the title
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      • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
        Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

        You don't need a mod for that.
        Go > Edit your first post > switch Go advanced > edit the title
        I'm being retarded... Where? lol

        Sorry in advance for being a muppet :p
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        • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
          Originally Posted by Gawk View Post

          It'll be interesting to see how Google trys to deal with this problem in the future. It's hard because almost anything is gameable. For example if they started to integrate social signals more people would just start gaming +1's or Likes or whatever.
          Totally agree but this leads to the fact that Google and search in general in being less and less effective.... I have one word Siri...... watch this space for not getting results and just getting answers/sites with no choice...


          Originally Posted by Tadresources View Post

          Are you talking about on here or in general?
          I mean in general... I've only just joined so don't know if this forum is spammy... it appears helpful hence I joined...

          I was doing some research for a client today and the number of links he had from crap blogs.... ok some had a high PR (don't know how or why) but I thought to myself is this blog useful... is anyone actually going to read it at all. Is the person that created it going to pay for hosting forever... or in most cases when will the domain owner kill the sub domain.....
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          • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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            Originally Posted by digijoltman View Post

            I mean in general... I've only just joined so don't know if this forum is spammy... it appears helpful hence I joined...
            lol nope this forum's pretty good! now the blackhat forums on the other hand...and any FB groups that are remotely related to IM....that's a different story altogether.
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            • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
              Originally Posted by TheRealDudeman View Post

              lol nope this forum's pretty good! now the blackhat forums on the other hand...and any FB groups that are remotely related to IM....that's a different story altogether.
              I'm waiting for the people behind the blogs to chime in..... Lets be honest in the early days of SEO when we were learning we all considered it.... come on own up... we all did.... hands up guys!!!

              My main point it.... how long before these blogs get deleted and will sites want to delete them....

              Google's panda update tried to deal with the problem BUT I'm more interested in what will happen to them and IF anyone cares enough to look at there subdomains (i.e. wordpress, blogger etc..) to find them and delete them....
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        • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
          Originally Posted by digijoltman View Post

          I'm being retarded... Where? lol
          Am I supposed to argue with your statement? Well, I won't...

          In the right bottom corner of every post you have 4 black buttons:

          a) on OTHERS' posts:
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          • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
            Tempted to throw Cyber Squatters in the same hole I throw Pointless Blog creators!!!

            One of those days!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author KingOfPLRArticles
    I was just thinking about the same thing earlier this week.

    I'm sure Google is working on it little by little, but I have a feeling they are still going to be around for awhile.

    The Google Panda update was directly aimed at a lot of those types of websites I believe.

    I still have no problem getting those types of sites to rank though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Yeah, they can start by blogs, then cars, then computers, then phones, then books, then music... and so on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gawk
    It'll be interesting to see how Google trys to deal with this problem in the future. It's hard because almost anything is gameable. For example if they started to integrate social signals more people would just start gaming +1's or Likes or whatever.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    Are you talking about on here or in general? I try to keep my blogs up to a great standard of quality (a couple of them are quite funny IMO) but of course almost everything online is done for SEO value at this point.

    I see your point though. For every good blog (or article for that matter) that I see there are five terrible ones that hardly make sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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    Yeah I feel the same way about a lot of things online. Everything is saturated with low quality BS. I have google alerts on some keywords I'm targeting, and more often than no, I'll get a notification from a damned autoblog! I hate those things, they always look like a 3rd grader got their hands on a keyboard! Such a waste of space.
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  • Profile picture of the author gasman
    Frankly I try to do my best to make all my websites look professional as well as give the reader good information. However, no matter the quality we try and bring, it's still mostly about the money. Unfortunately, for many Internet marketers it's ALL about the money and they could care less what junk they are just throwing out on the Internet.
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    • Profile picture of the author birddog200
      On my main blog, I try to keep it quality. And on all of my adsense blogs I have a plugin that keeps them all going with content and making me money.

      On another note. After the panda smack, I have been noticing that the stuff they bring up on the first page in organic search is mostly crap. They tried to make it better and only made it worse. Hope they fix it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ELVISTHEPELVIS
    I believe the OP is talking about Web 2.0s which are used for backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
      Originally Posted by birddog200 View Post

      After the panda smack, I have been noticing that the stuff they bring up on the first page in organic search is mostly crap. They tried to make it better and only made it worse. Hope they fix it.
      Hence they are pushing Google Plus so much to crowd source better results!

      Originally Posted by ELVISTHEPELVIS View Post

      I believe the OP is talking about Web 2.0s which are used for backlinks.
      And yes I was....

      To comment on the people mentioning there own blogs.... I suppose the quality of something is much like saying "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    Originally Posted by digijoltman View Post

    When do you think something or someone will do something about all these pointless blogs that have only been created for SEO. I'm talking about the super low quality ones... we've all seen them. It is getting a bit silly now...

    Anyone else's thoughts?


    Never, it isnt any of googles or anyone elses business what someone does on a domain they own.

    Now if it has no seo value then yes it may cut down on the number of these blogs a little but it will take years for people to believe that it still doesnt work.

    Also what is or isnt quality content will be a tough issue for google. What can they do but maybe a spelling and grammar check.
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    • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
      Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

      Never, it isnt any of googles or anyone elses business what someone does on a domain they own.

      Now if it has no seo value then yes it may cut down on the number of these blogs a little but it will take years for people to believe that it still doesnt work.
      Does it not bug you? Have you done it or thought about doing it? I thought about it but kind of feel its not good practice so decided I will not bother...

      If I do create a blog site for seo backlinking in the future I will actually make it a useful site to people interested in that topic.... (I only say that because I have learnt to never say never)

      Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post


      Also what is or isnt quality content will be a tough issue for google. What can they do but maybe a spelling and grammar check.
      I'm dyslexic a spelling and grammer check would just be prejudice against entrepreneurial dyslexics!!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
        Originally Posted by digijoltman View Post

        Does it not bug you? Have you done it or thought about doing it? I thought about it but kind of feel its not good practice so decided I will not bother...

        If I do create a blog site for seo backlinking in the future I will actually make it a useful site to people interested in that topic.... (I only say that because I have learnt to never say never)



        I'm dyslexic a spelling and grammer check would just be prejudice against entrepreneurial dyslexics!!!!

        No i have hundreds of them exactly because it does work. it is a great way to repurpose my original content as well w/o dealing with shaddy link netowrks. They are also a great link juice buffer againt an arbitrary google slap
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        • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
          Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

          GUYS SLOW DOWN A MINUTE

          unless i missed the op's point entirely
          Nope.... it's more that they are pointless and unreadable and purely there to get a back link...

          Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

          No i have hundreds of them exactly because it does work. it is a great way to repurpose my original content as well w/o dealing with shaddy link netowrks. They are also a great link juice buffer againt an arbitrary google slap
          You see those sites truly bug me as I know they have no use and are normally filled with a low quality article that is unreadable! BUT (and it's a big but....) I do see and understand your point of maintaining control and that is a valid reason to do it.

          Yet again I feel you are adding to a problem..... Until google sorts out quality issues I suppose people are going to do it....

          To sum up... I am a walking contradiction at times :confused:
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          • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
            Originally Posted by digijoltman View Post

            Nope.... it's more that they are pointless and unreadable and purely there to get a back link...


            You see those sites truly bug me as I know they have no use and are normally filled with a low quality article that is unreadable! BUT (and it's a big but....) I do see and understand your point of maintaining control and that is a valid reason to do it.

            Yet again I feel you are adding to a problem..... Until google sorts out quality issues I suppose people are going to do it....

            To sum up... I am a walking contradiction at times :confused:

            although i can certainly undestand your perspective since my blog network is almost never actually seeni dont see any issue with it, except maybe the domain names I am consuming or no reason.

            As far as quality goes google will long since be an afterthough for driving traffic by the time they get that sorted out. Google knows the very near future belongs to social media , if not the oresent, and are trying to morph as quickly as they can before they become obsolete or an also ran.
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            • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
              Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

              although i can certainly undestand your perspective since my blog network is almost never actually seeni dont see any issue with it, except maybe the domain names I am consuming or no reason.
              So you have blogs which have a good PR or MozRank (or how ever you validate them) that link to your main sites.... and these blogs with good link juice do not rank high enough to get traffic?

              Sorry understanding the logistics...
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              • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
                Originally Posted by digijoltman View Post

                So you have blogs which have a good PR or MozRank (or how ever you validate them) that link to your main sites.... and these blogs with good link juice do not rank high enough to get traffic?

                Sorry understanding the logistics...


                high pr is a reflection of juice flowing through the site. However if the sit eis not keyword optimized and the link reputation is not keyword optimized they would have no reason to rank. Sure thye have authority but they dont have reputation, do you understand what i mean and what the difference is?
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    As far as the panda update i agree with you. Places like ezine articles which had strict editorial standards were hammered and the 2.0 sites you mention readily take spun garbage.
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  • Profile picture of the author cleanerupper
    It's all about the money, my friend, all about the money. If Google eliminates all of these silly blogs, they also eliminate a large portion of their advertising revenue.
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    • Profile picture of the author Doctor Derp
      Originally Posted by cleanerupper View Post

      It's all about the money, my friend, all about the money. If Google eliminates all of these silly blogs, they also eliminate a large portion of their advertising revenue.
      Proof? I'm not sure I agree.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    I think if they get rid of junk, (which they have been doing for years), they actually make MORE money. They only want quality stuff to keep users coming back to them time and again. If users get garbage results, they won't come back.

    THAT will affect their revenue far more then stupid little pointless blogs ever could.

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    • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
      Originally Posted by cleanerupper View Post

      It's all about the money, my friend, all about the money. If Google eliminates all of these silly blogs, they also eliminate a large portion of their advertising revenue.
      Originally Posted by Doctor Derp View Post

      Proof? I'm not sure I agree.
      Partly true but don't you hear more and more people getting sick of using Google and not finding what they want because of the spam..... And does Google have the brand loyalty.... if Google stays spammy and Bing truly improves its game and is the better engine will Googling for something suddenly become Binging....


      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      I think if they get rid of junk, (which they have been doing for years), they actually make MORE money. They only want quality stuff to keep users coming back to them time and again. If users get garbage results, they won't come back.

      THAT will affect their revenue far more then stupid little pointless blogs ever could.

      *coughs* Siri.... Wolfram Alhpa *coughs* Wait till search engines answer your questions and don't take you to webpages....
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      • Profile picture of the author cleanerupper
        Originally Posted by digijoltman View Post

        Partly true but don't you hear more and more people getting sick of using Google and not finding what they want because of the spam..... And does Google have the brand loyalty.... if Google stays spammy and Bing truly improves its game and is the better engine will Googling for something suddenly become Binging....




        *coughs* Siri.... Wolfram Alhpa *coughs* Wait till search engines answer your questions and don't take you to webpages....
        How many times do you use Google per day? How many times do you find what you want? I'm sure that I and the majority of Google searchers are doing just fine locating the information that they need. Making huge adjustments to the algorithm will kill Google, and they know it. These world-ending "Panda" updates that we fear so much are indeed far smaller changes than we believe them to be.

        If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The majority of Googlers would agree that "it ain't broke". The Warrior Forum, by the way, will never give us a representative sample of the Google search user base. We are far too biased.
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    Originally Posted by digijoltman View Post

    When do you think something or someone will do something about all these pointless blogs that have only been created for SEO. I'm talking about the super low quality ones... we've all seen them. It is getting a bit silly now...

    Anyone else's thoughts?

    Who gives a **** ?

    I mean really?
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    • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
      Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

      Who gives a **** ?

      I mean really?

      A $200,000,000,000 company with Bing hot on its heels, for one, does. I do too. My time is valuable. The white noise of crappy blogs and crappy niche sites waste that valuable time. I've grown quite tired of the ridiculous nonsense spawned from the keyboards of SEO gurus and their crappy content construction methods they tout. From article spinning to outsourcing for five bucks to non native speakers (or native writers with little skill and no real knowledge concerning the subjects they write about) to auto blogs.

      People here give lip service to quality content, and some much more than lip service, to be sure, but I really don't see any in depth discussion concerning what I labeled in another thread as the exponential maturation of the average internet user.

      They care too. And they care more everyday, day by day. 'Cause a whole bunch of IMers are wasting their time as well.

      I would not be the least bit surprised if some investigative journalism type television program does an expose on the IM industry in the next few years. And the very last thing they will do is portray this industry in a good light.

      And Andrei, if you are making good money from that kind of stuff (not saying you are as I do not know), squirrel away those nuts you are harvesting as winter is coming. The writing is on the wall. And in the words of Widespread Panic:

      You are seconds from the impact, but you're movin' way too slow

      A lot of people care. And make no mistake there is a very real tipping point where methods like that, and other methods as well, will no longer be viable parts of a successful business model.

      Everyone on this forum who is serious about being in the business of IM 5 years from now should absolutely care ...
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      • Profile picture of the author Doctor Derp
        Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

        Everyone on this forum who is serious about being in the business of IM 5 years from now should absolutely care ...
        IM is not a business, just a bunch of tactics & techniques... it is just marketing using the internet... Right now the majority of (what you define as) IM products focus on "Make Money/BizOpp"

        There will always be a make money/biz opp market since that's the nature of the beast. And I don't see the internet going anywhere soon... 5 years down the road, the IM/make money/biz opp markets will still be going strong. Caveat emptor.
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        • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
          Originally Posted by Doctor Derp View Post

          IM is not a business, just a bunch of tactics & techniques... it is just marketing using the internet... Right now the majority of (what you define as) IM products focus on "Make Money/BizOpp"
          Oh really? Tell that to people making 10 G's per month (or more) with quality sites that have nothing to do with Make Money stuff.

          We can quibble about how broad or narrow the term IM is, but there are plenty of people that have LLCs, corps, etc., along with the corresponding tax liabilities and business expenses that, I am sure, would disagree as well.

          And, you are misstating my definition of IMing. But thanks for trying to read my mind and not my post, where I offered no such definition, as you suggest. I consider it much more broad than that. The person who owns dogdiarrhea.org is an IMer. And they ain't selling Make Money/BizOpp stuff on that site - they are selling advertising using the eyes of people that have dogs that need a cork shoved up their butt as leverage enlist those advertisers. People that are making decent money off of Amazon affliate programs are IMers as well. How 'bout all of the writers you see selling services here, on an IM forum. What are they? Are they not involved in the business of IM?

          Don't take my word for it - read this forum, this IM forum, and you will see that IM is an umbrella term that covers more than what you suggest I suggest.
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      • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
        Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

        People here give lip service to quality content, and some much more than lip service, to be sure, but I really don't see any in depth discussion concerning what I labeled in another thread as the exponential maturation of the average internet user.
        Is my rant/question/comment/thread... whatever just another pointless waste of time.... I started this as when I was researching competitors I was seeing a pattern... i.e. links for blogs owned by them created purely for a back link.... Seriously I thought Panda was a clear up job for these....

        Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

        A lot of people care. And make no mistake there is a very real tipping point where methods like that, and other methods as well, will no longer be viable parts of a successful business model.

        Everyone on this forum who is serious about being in the business of IM 5 years from now should absolutely care ...
        I am so glad I market my clients in offline media sources like organising trade talks, shows, contacting local media (which actually gets you links!!!) etc....

        I am hoping that these blogs/sites will start to vanish..... but maybe linking as a measurement needs to be ignored which is I think what google is trying to do with G+ i.e. crowd source the quality links.

        (P.S. I'm not that fond of these one page sites trying to sell you things too.... *runs for cover when saying that one*)
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    GUYS SLOW DOWN A MINUTE

    the op stated that he/she was tired of junk blogs that people used for backlink seo purposes. Since backlink blogs generally dont rank it has nothing to do with money or even people seeing them.

    unless i missed the op's point entirely
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  • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
    lol... it's 4.41am (UK) and I've had a long day!!! To be honest not overly.... basically because of the low reputation low ranking? But still have a use to pass authority on to your sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    I thought of a better way to explain this

    Imagine incoming links to my blogs as a crowd of people yelling

    PR is how LOUD they are yelling
    anchor-text is WHAT they are yelling

    so without keyowrd optimized anchor-text the crowd can be yelling quite loudly but not sending a clear message thus no ranking. Since the crowd is making a lot of noise google gives it some authority, but since it doenst know what the crowd is yelling about it doesnt rank it well for anything in particular.
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    • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
      Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

      I thought of a better way to explain this

      Imagine incoming links to my blogs as a crowd of people yelling

      PR is how LOUD they are yelling
      anchor-text is WHAT they are yelling

      so without keyowrd optimized anchor-text the crowd can be yelling quite loudly but not sending a clear message thus no ranking. Since the crowd is making a lot of noise google gives it some authority, but since it doenst know what the crowd is yelling about it doesnt rank it well for anything in particular.
      Yeah I get that

      So do you only put up one or two posts and then leave them.... spun posts?
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      • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
        Originally Posted by digijoltman View Post

        Yeah I get that

        So do you only put up one or two posts and then leave them.... spun posts?

        no i NEVER use spun content. Google has stated several times and unmistakably that there is no duplicate content penalty so the only reason to spin an article is so you can post it again and again on the same site. I beleive google can spot this from across the room.

        When i first set them up i put completely unique content on them , say the home page and 2 - 4 posts. I never post that particular content anywhere else so that the site will always have completely unique content.

        The content i put on the site is directly relevent to my money site niche so that the link i point to my moneysite is inside relevent content and thus maximum value.

        I then begin to randomly begin to reuse posts from my money site on these blogs. I let the content sit on my money site for atleast a week so i can make sure google finds it on my money site first.

        Each blog gets a random selection of my moneysite posts so that no 2 sites are identical but all will carry quite a bit of the same content.

        I then point "questionable" links to my blogs so that they can filter the incoming link juice and if one gets hammered by google it doesnt hurt my cash flow
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    gonna go grab a bite if i see a responce when i get back in 20 or 30 minutes I will gladly answer any questions
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Sounds like a pointless blog would be much easier to keep in businesss than a Google Adwords account. I have heard of a few people on popular seo forums say that their autoblog and and adsense account have been banned tho.
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    It looks like we are equivicating again. i dont know if we are talking about blogs people actually see or ones that are part of an intelligent seo link structure.

    The latter serves an important role including allowing a person who has taken the time to get educated in their business to have a voice that they might otherwise might not have.

    If you think quality content alone works you are mistaken, that content needs a voice. Smart seo structure gives that quality content a voice and the ability to take flight.
    Like any other tool if people use it to generate crap is it the tool or is it the person?
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  • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
    Garbage In Garbage Out. I guess...
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  • Profile picture of the author Marsala
    I think those pointless blogs belong mainly to blog networks. Google de-indexed a lot of those lately. Does that mean the end of pointless blogs? Let's hope so.
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    • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
      Originally Posted by Marsala View Post

      I think those pointless blogs belong mainly to blog networks. Google de-indexed a lot of those lately. Does that mean the end of pointless blogs? Let's hope so.
      Totally agree.... makes you wondered that if a blog is not logged into in a certain time frame it should be closed by the main domain.... I am talking about the ones on sub domains eg: crap.blogger.com / crap.wordpress.com ....
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  • Profile picture of the author lennyk1313
    Many blogs that I visit daily tend to be just quick stories referencing other blogs/sites for news and announcements. There are not too many blogs that I have visited lately that actually write their own content anymore.
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    • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
      Originally Posted by lennyk1313 View Post

      Many blogs that I visit daily tend to be just quick stories referencing other blogs/sites for news and announcements. There are not too many blogs that I have visited lately that actually write their own content anymore.
      I agree and I admit I'm guilty of this... I am not on about the blogs on main sites (like on shopping sites)... I am on about the stupid one page blogs with a crap spun article on it that's usually hosted on a sub-domain of wordpress etc... THEY ARE THE ONES>>> GGGGRRR lol
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      • Profile picture of the author MidlandsMarketer
        Originally Posted by FreshFireOne View Post

        I agree and I admit I'm guilty of this... I am not on about the blogs on main sites (like on shopping sites)... I am on about the stupid one page blogs with a crap spun article on it that's usually hosted on a sub-domain of wordpress etc... THEY ARE THE ONES>>> GGGGRRR lol
        I'm slightly confused as to what your problem is. I've never, EVER seen a single page .wordpress.com or similar outrank a proper website, or get anywhere near the top of the SERPs.

        Are you annoyed that your competitors are outranking you by creating blogs for backlinks? Then quit moaning about it and do it yourself. Whether you agree with it or not, the fact is that links from Web 2.0 properties WORK. If you want to capture organic traffic then play the game to rank, its as simple as that.

        Of course you should never rely on search engine traffic to carry your business, and I make it a personal point to ensure that as much traffic as possible comes from other sources, through article syndication, guest blogging, blog commenting and paid nofollow links on relevant websites/blogs. All of these methods bring in a tonne of traffic for my sites and I would wager play a part in ranking them in G, too.
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        • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
          Originally Posted by MidlandsMarketer View Post

          I'm slightly confused as to what your problem is. I've never, EVER seen a single page .wordpress.com or similar outrank a proper website, or get anywhere near the top of the SERPs.
          This is true they usually don't outrank a proper site! But they still appear and show up in places.

          Originally Posted by MidlandsMarketer View Post

          Are you annoyed that your competitors are outranking you by creating blogs for backlinks? Then quit moaning about it and do it yourself.
          This is the exact problem... (for the records my competitors are not doing this and the company I do marketing for are doing well thank you!). So you are saying you would create a low quality blog purely to get links? Why not do proper marketing to generate links. i.e. contacting media outlets with stories, sponsoring local sports teams, competitions, writing proper interesting piece on big websites. I suspect the reason is because it's too much like hard work and creating a pointless blog with low quality content is easier!!!



          Originally Posted by MidlandsMarketer View Post

          Of course you should never rely on search engine traffic to carry your business, and I make it a personal point to ensure that as much traffic as possible comes from other sources, through article syndication, guest blogging, blog commenting and paid nofollow links on relevant websites/blogs. All of these methods bring in a tonne of traffic for my sites and I would wager play a part in ranking them in G, too.
          Exactly!!! This is how link building should do done as part of a larger on going marketing campaign. Creating a low quality, pointless blog DOES NOT benefit your link building/marketing in the long run. So why do people do it.... because at the moment they can still game google and they are lazy. Role on the true clear out of these crap blogs and (cheesy one page affiliate sites)!
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    • Profile picture of the author keyon
      The biggest problem I have with the IM strategies people are talking about here is that the established sites are getting so hammered with link requests, spammy comments, and whatever else the seo newbies are taught to do, that I can barely get any of these businesses to open my emails anymore. And these were people I use to converse with. I suspect they've become leary of everyone now, which makes it all the more difficult for me (a vendor with my own products) to build relationships.
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      • Profile picture of the author FreshFireOne
        Originally Posted by keyon View Post

        The biggest problem I have with the IM strategies people are talking about here is that the established sites are getting so hammered with link requests, spammy comments, and whatever else the seo newbies are taught to do, that I can barely get any of these businesses to open my emails anymore. And these were people I use to converse with. I suspect they've become leary of everyone now, which makes it all the more difficult for me (a vendor with my own products) to build relationships.
        What sector are you in?
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      • Profile picture of the author SoftWarp
        A. I taught creative writing for a while and fact is: most people think they can write, but few actually can and even fewer of those who can't will learn it eventually.

        B. The perception of what is "good" seems to be highly variable. As a matter of fact the better somebody can write the more critical he will likely judge the content of others.

        C. The Internet is build for "everybody" - which means mostly people who neither can write nor pass qualified judgement on content.

        D. As a result we see "hand-spun" stuff that is actually cooler than "hand written."

        E. Google may not only penalize duplicate content but first and foremost also content coming in bulk through the same IP address, which

        F. means IM not only need to spin smarter but also to set up professional private blog networks (no contradiction here, look around and find them commercially available), because

        G. putting out a lot of content certainly is helpful for traffic and SEO and

        H. Google will never find an algorithm for "cool content."

        As a result you will have to live with ever ****tier content in ever ****tier search results.

        Or look for a "new" Internet in which there will be very strict access restrictions.

        Will they let you in?
        Will they have IM?

        Sharing your frustration while trying to capitalize it...
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