Offered $2,500 - $5,000 for this domain...

by JLP
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P P C Pro (dot) com

Registered it in 2001 with intention of developing a site.

Don't need to tell you how many PPC classes, courses, monthly services, software, etc. there is out there.

Was contacted today by someone interested in purchasing. Their initial offer is "between $2,500 - $5,000.

Would appreciate Warriors thoughts.

Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author alan57
    Unless you have a real intention of doing something with it... that sounds like a good offer.

    You might also search for another domain name that you could use should you get around to putting something together. That way you may not have your first choice, but as long as you've got a decent alternative... you've got a $5,000 profit already.
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  • Profile picture of the author cow194234
    Hey I would try paying the $39 and doing a 1 month listing on sedo.com first. Or even get it appraised. I would defiantly try and see if people are willing to bid more before selling it to your first offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author A.Zamani
    so expensive......
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  • Profile picture of the author BizBooks
    that is a great domain name, judging by google searches for the term.

    the value could be higher....

    what have you been doing with the domain until now?
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    • Profile picture of the author JLP
      Thank you for the replies; great ideas.

      Embarrassed to say haven't done anything with the domain till now. The email offer was a wake-up call/reminder that I should do something with it.

      When I bought the domain in 2001 I was surprised that it was available. Thought it was a good domain then, and I believe even more valuable today with the explosion in PPC Professional services.

      I appreciate a domain's worth is only what someone is willing to pay for it, but my gut tells me it has some value. Short 6 letter domain, that's easy to remember and meaningful.

      If money was an issue, i.e. I needed to generate some quick cash, the offer would probably be more enticing.

      I'm going to give some thought to all the good advice you've given.

      Any more suggestions, I'm all ears.

      P.S. Forgot to add that the offer was unsolicited; don't have the domain listed for sale anywhere.

      Not that it matters in this conversation, but I also registered CPCPro.com at the same time. Not doing anything with that one either
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    • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
      Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

      Well you could get Angela Edwards WSO, and another dudes Backlink WSO and of course the one in my sig .... and have about 250 High PR backlinks thrown at that thing in about 2 weeks ... wonder how much MORE it would bring in with 10 relevent keywords backlinked at 250 PR4 and greater sites?

      You could outsource the labor I bet ... - the WSO's would set you back a mere $50 or so ...
      I think it's time to stop pushing your own products in this forum. I've visited a couple of threads just now, and you've pushed your product in each one of them, and now in this thread.

      Self promotion is not allowed here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Wilkinson
    I am soooo glad I happened to see this thread. I neglected to renew
    one of my domains and the darn thing expired. Went back in and
    registered it again. It goes with one of my really good sites. I knew
    there were a few not on auto renew but I hadn't gone in and checked
    which ones. Have to get the sites up and going again in the morning.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanIM
    If you could use the money sell it. If not I'd keep it and develop that puppy. Need to put it online with at least a front on it so it gets some 'age love' working...

    Personally, I'd keep it and not consider selling it for less than 10-20k It's a nice domain and I love collecting them too.

    -S
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  • Profile picture of the author RebeccaL
    I'd sell it.. but not for $5k

    If someone really wants it they will pay considerably more.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marty S
      Originally Posted by RebeccaL View Post

      I'd sell it.. but not for $5k
      If someone really wants it they will pay considerably more.
      I agree. If you don't NEED money right now, its too good of a name for $5g and a real PPC "PRO" has way more than that to spend. I would ask for double or maybe $12,500.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jibe
      Originally Posted by RebeccaL View Post

      I'd sell it.. but not for $5k

      If someone really wants it they will pay considerably more.
      Agreed, you have a gem there. The vertical is stacked with people trying to do business on the PPC level and there just aren't domains like yours available much anymore. It is short, easy to remember, and worth more than 5k if you ask me.

      So, in theory you could sell it off for more than 5k and make a nice chunk of cash. Or you could use your wonderful domain to develop a nice business model, marketing and seo should be pretty cake on such a concise domain as you have and then sell that off later at a much higher price.
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  • Profile picture of the author blackhatzen
    Unless you're really hurting for money, I'd keep it. While a domain is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay, my intuitive sense is that your domain is worth a lot more than you're being offered.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Matthew
      I agree, if you need the money sell it. But even if you sell it...don't take the first offer.
      Try to find some info about the potential buyer...are they an investor, are they buying it for brand development or do they just love the domain name and gotta have it?

      Either way, the more you know about them...the better you can play your cards.

      Good Luck with It! It's great when things like that, just come out of nowhere. Gotta Love It.

      By the way...that is a pretty killer domain!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Hoffman
    List on sedo.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    I agree. They would never offer you first time off, what they'd be willing to buy it for. This is their first offer.

    If you do decide you want to sell it, i'd definately dig a little deeper and try and find out it's approximate value.

    You could always set your minimum value and then try your luck on sedo to see what you fetch. There is an ideal buyer out there for everything.... it's just a case of finding them.

    It may even be worth more if you do something with the domain and develop a site. If you promote it for a year or so it would then come with traffic and mybe monthly income.

    Good luck whatever you choose to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    I would take $5k and run. If you think about it the only person interested will likely be someone teaching PPC. That has to be a fairly small market. If you have had it registered for 8 years and this is the best offer you have received, that would be some indication of the demand for it. I think $5k would be a nice pop on that domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roger Mayne
    First off, Id' develop a quick affiliate site and get some traffic to it. That should at least generate more value to it, plus earn you some revenue.

    Maybe counter their offer with $15k and see if they're still interested.

    Just thinking out loud here.
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    • Profile picture of the author SaSeoPete
      Originally Posted by swiftdeal View Post

      First off, Id' develop a quick affiliate site and get some traffic to it. That should at least generate more value to it, plus earn you some revenue.

      Maybe counter their offer with $15k and see if they're still interested.

      Just thinking out loud here.
      Oooh I like this idea. Or even into a membership type site.

      I don't know anything about website flipping, but I recon you could get a sh!t load more if you sold it as a whole business. (Or just keep it )
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
    If you don't need to sell I'd not sell. It'll increase in value over the next 5-10 years due to more demand for 1/2 word domains and none of them/few of them available in the primary .com format.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kris Turner
    Who on Earth makes an offer of between $2,500 and $5,000?

    Are they really expecting you to say, "Okay, I'll take $2,500"?

    If you decide you want to sell, I'd do as swiftdeal suggests and throw a much bigger number back at them - see what they say.

    For what it's worth, I'd never sell that domain for 5K...unless I was broke.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidTheMavin
    I wouldn't take less than $5k for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidTheMavin
    Originally Posted by incomespace View Post

    I think $5k is a fair offer in the current domain economy
    The domain market is very strong: DNJournal.com Year to Date Domain Sales Charts

    InternetMarketing.org went for $6,700

    MySoccer.com went for $50k!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Ward
    2,500 to 5000 is a wholesale price, probably another domainer after it. To an end user I would say the name is worth more. It may not get much in terms of direct navigation ( though It will get some, but it is very brandable, and descriptive. A PPC specialist would recoup that price on one good client in a month. Before you accept any offer, I would spend some time sending some emails to PPC companies to see if they are interested in that name.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Go to namepros.com and go to the appraisal forum and ask what their thoughts on it are. They'll give you a ballpark estimate of what you should hold out for. It's a very good domain name. If they don't answer, bump the thread a couple of times ...no more than once per day though. Sometimes it takes a couple times to get their attention. Often when you get such a good offer right off the bat, it's worth more. If they request an appraisal ... beware. It's a scam. They go around offering high prices for domains and say they're ready to pay as soon as you go here ... and get it appraised. Of course they own the "appraisal service."
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  • Congratulations. I can see how the domain values so high. It is next to impossible to get even 2 word domain names, forget about few letters.
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    • Profile picture of the author DavidTheMavin
      Originally Posted by Web-Design-Company View Post

      Congratulations. I can see how the domain values so high. It is next to impossible to get even 2 word domain names, forget about few letters.
      Maybe in SEO PPC, but I've found a ton of two worders that are pretty decent. Lots of people letting go of them in this economy, at least in other industries.
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      • Profile picture of the author JLP
        Wow! Helpful, insightful comments.

        Here's an update. I've been doing a little detective work and Googled the name of the person who emailed offer.

        Although I'm not sure it's the same person, looks like they're the co-founder of a fairly large company (210 employees) that is involved in SEM.

        My guess is that they are one and the same, as the domain would be a perfect complement to others they own.

        BTW, I've heard again from them, wanting to know what I thought of their offer.
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        • Profile picture of the author DavidTheMavin
          Originally Posted by JLP View Post

          Wow! Helpful, insightful comments.

          Here's an update. I've been doing a little detective work and Googled the name of the person who emailed offer.

          Although I'm not sure it's the same person, looks like they're the co-founder of a fairly large company (210 employees) that is involved in SEM.

          My guess is that they are one and the same, as the domain would be a perfect complement to others they own.

          BTW, I've heard again from them, wanting to know what I thought of their offer.
          You should just forget the $5k offer right now. You should definitely be able to get at least $20k for it if not more like $50k... mysoccer.com $50k!!!

          Keep us posted
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  • Profile picture of the author Roger Mayne
    One word of warning

    I've had emails in the past for domains where the bidder offers what seem to be high values for a domain, you get caught into negotation with them, then they say they will only buy it if you get it professionally appraised. They then promote a link where it can be appraised for a small fee (e.g. $50).

    Guess who owns the appraisal site?? When you decline their appraisal offer, they magically disappear!

    Sounds like you've already done your homework, but if you do go ahead in a deal with any potential buyer at this value, make sure you do it through escrow.

    I know you're probably aware of this, but thought I'd mention it again anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author edhan
      If that is a real deal, I will sell it. But if you are not hard for money then you can try Sedo to see if it can fetch a better price. Good price usually comes when someone has a niche relating to the name otherwise it is just another domain name.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Foster
    If you decide to keep it great, but if you decide to sell it - keep in mind they are opening a negotiation. No one ever starts by offering the most they are willing to pay.... you can definitely get more out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Ashari
    If anyone here has the traffic secrets 1 course they may remember John Reese talk about his domain fliping experience.

    He bought 10 really good domains for $100 each (domains were more expensive at the time). He was then offered $1000 for just one of the domains.

    He accepted. Only to have the same guy call back later and tell him that he had gone on and sold it to a veture capital firm for $1000 000.

    Due Diligence.

    btw, well done for having the insight to register this domain name.

    regards

    Simon
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  • Profile picture of the author marblehillmo
    If I sold it for the offer, it would only do it on the high end. I think that this is a really nice brandable for the category. Also be aware that there is an active site already PPC-Pro.com

    Like others have said, it all depends on how much you need the money.

    Good Luck
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  • Profile picture of the author hamerz
    You have to look at it from a business perspective.

    Sure, keeping P P C Pro (dot) com around undeveloped for more time is cheap money to you.

    My question would be - in the short term can that domain bring in $2500 - $5k to you? If it can then keep it and do what you need to do with it to get that. If not think about letting it go.

    In the short time frame, can you make the domain a little more attractive? Put up a mini site, get some content on it and into the search engines, get it listed in some directories, put up a non-salsey sales page driving traffic to affiliate products, generate some dollars. After that you may be able to justify a higher sales price for the domain.

    Or - do you intened to operate a business/website in the PPC area? You can use this domain now to build your self a golden list of buyers through affiliate sales, etc. A list that you can keep when you move from affiliate sales to your onw sales. That ups the value of the domain and also prepares you for your "in the future' business endeavors in PPC.

    I guess that the last thing that I would mention is - how much is that $2500 - $5k worth to your existing/other business efforts? $2500- $5K is a whole bunch of outsource hours. You could take the money from the sale of this unused domain and use the procees to take the rest of your business to the next step.

    From the post where the domain was sold for $1k and then later resold for $1M. Forget about it. Don't hold out for that price. Getting those types of deals takes a very specific effort to attract those buyers and you might not be willing to take the time to do so. You might not have the right desire, skills, contacts, etc.

    When I get an offer to buy a domain I immediatly start researching to see why that particular domain at that particular time would be a fit for anyone. Maybe there is a new Google product coming out that will increase the value of the domain ten fold. In that case hold on to the domain.

    Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author BizBooks
    you MIGHT want to consider a JV or leasing the site to them for a per year fee....
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