Is $1997 unrealistic for an informational training course?

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Is $1997 unrealistic for an informational training course?

The topic would be for people getting into a specific kind of investing. The course would be 2 binders about 1.5 inches each and a total of 500 pages of info and possibly a CD with some programs and spread sheets. Do you think people would pay this much? I'd be selling it with a sale page that has a long copy sales letter on it.

Your thoughts?:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    Originally Posted by aceshigh888 View Post

    Is $1997 unrealistic for an informational training course?

    The topic would be for people getting into a specific kind of investing. The course would be 2 binders about 1.5 inches each and a total of 500 pages of info and possibly a CD with some programs and spread sheets. Do you think people would pay this much? I'd be selling it with a sale page that has a long copy sales letter on it.

    Your thoughts?:rolleyes:
    The size of the course is largely irrelevant. People buy what the course can do for them, not the format it's in.

    If I had a treasure map (a real one, that you someone KNEW was real) that told you were you could get $4,000, would you pay me $1,997 for it?

    Of course you would and that's a one page information product.

    The example is obviously contrived but it illustrates the point.
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    • Profile picture of the author aceshigh888
      Well I was gonna charge only 997 but then I read all these people claiming that if you sell you got to do it for a lot of money that way the product both will actually get you somewhere plus it adds that level of sophistication to the product, like the buyer is thinking "for this price it's got to work!". So I was thinking of doing 1997. What the alternative 30 dollar ebook is done to death and no one believes they'll learn anything significant from that because it's so cheap.
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  • Profile picture of the author belgianguy
    Andy is right, people don't buy courses, they buy results. So, if you can convince them they will be getting a lot more than what they pay for, then $1997 is ok.
    Having authority in your niche also helps. Look at someone like Frank Kern. He can charge $5000 per course and people will happily pay him, because he has the reputation of delivering quality products.
    If you don't have authority, you'll need a damn good sales page :-)
    But at $1997 per sale, you'll only need a handful of sales per month, so give it a try.
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    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      Originally Posted by belgianguy View Post

      Having authority in your niche also helps. Look at someone like Frank Kern. He can charge $5000 per course and people will happily pay him, because he has the reputation of delivering quality products.
      If you don't have authority, you'll need a damn good sales page :-)
      Agreed people will pay based on results but also reputation. I mean honestly unless you are some financial/marketing guru disguised as aceshigh888 i don't think people would be breaking down your door to hand over almost 2K...
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Your ability to sell anything online for $1,997 depends on your having gradually and consistently built up trust-based relationships by email with a group of subscribers who have previously bought from you a few other products (for example at $47, $147, $497 and $997) and finding that each purchase established your credibility further and strengthened their trust in you. And even with all that, it's not necessarily going to be a very easy sale.

        You do realise that all this is absolutely fundamental to what you're asking about, right?
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    • Profile picture of the author emini_guy
      Originally Posted by belgianguy View Post

      Andy is right, people don't buy courses, they buy results. So, if you can convince them they will be getting a lot more than what they pay for, then $1997 is ok.
      I don't think how legitimate it is to promise specific results. I would avoid doing so.

      Having said so, I do believe that the only way to sell something like that is by showing that you and your clients have been able to achieve excellent results with the methods in your course.
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  • Profile picture of the author Confined To Life
    Andy hit the nail on the head. Actually selling the product comes back to two things, however. Is your product good? And is your sales page equally as good? Your product could be worth $10,000 but if your sales letter doesn't imply this, you'll never sell it for $1997.

    On the flip side, your product could be worth no more than $37 but your sales letter many convince people that it is indeed worthy of their week's pay. Having said that, ensuring they're satisfied after purchasing the product is a much harder task in the latter situation.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaxNiche
    As everyone above mentioned,It is not about the price. It is about how much results they will get from buying your product.
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  • Profile picture of the author J50
    That would depend. If you're targeting for example people with retirement savings and investments of $250K - whom are looking for growth strategies to bring them to around the $1MM mark then maybe $1,997 is on the low side.

    Everything's expensive to those who can least afford it including $17. My advice is understand who your customer is, do extensive market research and if you're running paid traffic pre-qualify your ads as much as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Micheal
    Good product sell themselves no matter what the price is. You may start with $997 and up the price to $1997 after a 100 unit maybe.

    If you confidence enough, just do it
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Do you have any experience in creating physical info-products?

    I have, and all I can say is ...be careful.

    If you decide to go ahead with this, here's a few tips.

    1. Do a small run. Certainly don't print off 500 copies. I had 10 copies created of my own product, and most people wanted the digital download.

    2. Allow for postage. Sending off my product (especially to the UK cost me $90AUD)

    3. Offer segmented versions of your product. They may be interested in only one module - so if you can, sell that at a lower cost. In simple terms, offer $197 options, or the whole package for $1,997.

    $1,997 is going to be pretty tough. I know of multimillionaire marketers who would probably only charge something like this for a live workshop.
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  • Profile picture of the author kkll78
    Honestly, is this day and age, it depends on what the information can do for the person. If it can do what it says, the price may not be an issue. The price all depends on the quality of information.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Batty
    Hi AcesHigh... nice name, btw.

    Now to be fair, I'm not too in tune with the investing marketplace, but in IM, for example, people are paying that kind of money every day to buy products online.

    But in order to garner those numbers, you'll need to be showing proof, establish a great reputation, and develop a pretty nice sales model.

    A sales funnel would also probably help.

    Perhaps you should start with a lower price point and then have upgrades that people can pick up it that offer even more value. That's a model thats been working quite well for many.
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    • Profile picture of the author talfighel
      Originally Posted by Patrick Batty View Post

      people are paying that kind of money every day to buy products online.
      That is very true. They are spending even more when they know for a fact that it will help them and give them a lot of value.

      Personally I would not send them physical copies of your "book". Convert it to a PDF file or an e-book and then once they hit the "Pay" button, they can instantly download it to their computer and read your material right away.

      To test things out, I would lower the price to $999.

      It is also OK to test your price point at $499 to see what kinds of results you are getting.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Is anyone actually selling stuff at this price point?
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by aceshigh888 View Post

    Is $1997 unrealistic for an informational training course?

    The topic would be for people getting into a specific kind of investing. The course would be 2 binders about 1.5 inches each and a total of 500 pages of info and possibly a CD with some programs and spread sheets. Do you think people would pay this much? I'd be selling it with a sale page that has a long copy sales letter on it.

    Your thoughts?:rolleyes:
    You DO realize that the formula for the value of information is something like....

    ((NEED*USEFULNESS*RARITY)/SIZE)* USEFUL CONTENT

    Do you realize that, according to that formula, if you had the meaning of life, and solution to all health, boiled down to ONE statement and put it within a terabyte of data, that it would be near WORTHLESS!?!?!?!?!?

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Selling a $2,000 information product to a cold list? Almost impossible to make it work. Same with a $997 info product.

      These people need to know about you first. They need to see you as credible too. You need testimonials from people that have used your course and are making serious money.

      You need proof that what you are teaching works, and the prospect can repeat your success.

      But if this is your first information product, and you are trying to sell to a cold list of strangers? Save your money.

      As someone mentioned before, a sales funnel is needed. The prospect buys an e-book (or a real book), a report, of some low dollar item from you. Then maybe a set of CDs talking about how you make money. Then they buy your $2,000 deal.

      If you are thinking "Gee, I have this idea on making money that should work, I mean I haven't actually made lots of money...but in theory it should work...my mom thinks it would work. My friends think I'm pretty smart"

      Then I would wait until you have a proven track record producing money, doing what you are teaching.
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    people would buy it if it was in installments. that way they get to see some product before they pay the whole thing. there are alot of scammers out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shubh Ashish
    If your product can make the person $4000 in a month,then you can surely sell it for $1997.No matters how many pages are there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
    Originally Posted by aceshigh888 View Post

    Is $1997 unrealistic for an informational training course?

    The topic would be for people getting into a specific kind of investing. The course would be 2 binders about 1.5 inches each and a total of 500 pages of info and possibly a CD with some programs and spread sheets. Do you think people would pay this much? I'd be selling it with a sale page that has a long copy sales letter on it.

    Your thoughts?:rolleyes:
    Um, no...

    Real information costs money. I know a lot of people here are delusional and think real value comes from Fiverr or from a $7 WSO, but anyone who's worth listening to values their own time. There's a reason top level marketers charge a fortune. They've made it, so they obviously have something valuable to say.

    However, you're looking at the wrong thing. You shouldn't be reading through the pages, you should be looking at how the marketers are marketing their products and how they're running their business model because that's where you want to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gengis
    I would say that price point is very steep and I'm not sure many would jump on it.

    Probably the best way if you've never sold something that high in price is to focus on promoting a free investing 1 hour seminar than hit them with your product at the end given you've built up so much value that it would make sense for people to buy if they're serious about investing.

    Let me know what you think.

    Good luck!

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    • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
      Originally Posted by Gengis View Post

      I would say that price point is very steep and I'm not sure many would jump on it.

      Probably the best way if you've never sold something that high in price is to focus on promoting a free investing 1 hour seminar than hit them with your product at the end given you've built up so much value that it would make sense for people to buy if they're serious about investing.

      Let me know what you think.

      Good luck!

      Gengis
      Good, that means it scares away all the cheap lamp chasers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gengis
        Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

        Good, that means it scares away all the cheap lamp chasers.

        Cheap? We're talking $1,997 here not $19.

        Unless you're Frank Kern of someone of the like it is very difficult to unload a 2 thousand dollar product, i'm not being negative but it is the world we live in today..

        To many people have gotten screwed with these overly expensive products so obviously people are more cautious these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author J50
    I think it's a lot of people's ambition is to sell high ticket stuff including myself. You hear about all these million dollar info product launches and their price points are like $1,997! Sure 500 or so people isn't much, but when you're asking for two grand... well it's not pocket change.
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  • Profile picture of the author tiimage
    A good quality product and good sales page is not enough to actually get sales at the price point. Three things are more important - 1) Reputation 2) Relationship 3) Syndication
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  • Profile picture of the author Mo Jogee
    I would suggest selling that product more to the backend of your sales funnel. So you can build trust by selling low to medium end products on your front end. If they see results with your low end products then they will trust and happily buy the $1997 product.
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  • Profile picture of the author aceshigh888
    wow all these conflicting ideas ha ha. Well all good info. The main thing is to just probably try it out and see. They're nothing else you can do right.
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  • Profile picture of the author eboniyham01
    Hmm give it a try and see what happens!
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  • Profile picture of the author 8485marketing
    If you believe that it the true worth of the product and your time (assuming this comes with some kind of support) then go for it. Personally I've never launched anything beyond $500 but that's because my conscious kicks my arse when I try to type $997 on a sales page.

    But on a serious note, if you are targeting serious investors who with your information and support can produce a solid outcome and return on the investment from their efforts then it's worth it from their perspective. You don't seem to get the same whiny people at that kind of entry price at least that's what I've found at the $500 level. With that kind of investment, people put that bit more effort in and work harder which generates better results and testimonials for your business to attract and recruit new customers.

    I also agree with two comments on here about dividing the information into purchasable sections and to release as a whole product for $1997 and also to allow for the information to be accessible via pdf download or online training videos, maybe mp3's too if that fits what you are doing.

    If I bought it and took one thing from it that I could implement to make more than the purchase price then its a worthwhile investment.

    Good luck with whatever you decide to do and keep the WF updated with your progress so that others can learn from your launch.
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    • Profile picture of the author aceshigh888
      Well it is coming from actual solid success in the field over a lengthy period of time. So I can demonstrate to the user that have some some fairly significant things. That's why I'm hoping it will be convincing enough to show the reader that they will be learning from an expert in the field. Thats' why it would be that price. Also I think to attract affiliates later on.
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