by metoya
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Are ready made sites a viable option for making money online? I've seen many sellers here that offer authority sites and mini niche sites. What does it take to make money with these? Any advice would be appreciated.:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Think about why they are being sold. The seller wants to make money.

    Surely if the seller wants to make money wouldn't he just keep the website and monetize it?

    No, because it is too much work and time to do.

    This is the case with buying ready made sites, usually the actual amount of work involved in keyword research, SEO, content creation, monetization, optimizing conversions, etc. is pretty much about the same as if you just make your own website from scratch.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by dadamson View Post

      Surely if the seller wants to make money wouldn't he just keep the website and monetize it?
      Why don't doctors just heal themselves and not think about other people?

      Most people selling websites know they can make money but would prefer to sell them to you, get the money quickly, and not have to invest much time into the website.
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      • Profile picture of the author run
        Originally Posted by Chase Watts View Post

        Why don't doctors just heal themselves and not think about other people?

        Most people selling websites know they can make money but would prefer to sell them to you, get the money quickly, and not have to invest much time into the website.
        Yes, it is involving many steps, time and effort before making some money or not with those site. So, there seller just want to make money fast.
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    • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
      Originally Posted by dadamson View Post

      Think about why they are being sold. The seller wants to make money.

      Surely if the seller wants to make money wouldn't he just keep the website and monetize it?

      No, because it is too much work and time to do.

      This is the case with buying ready made sites, usually the actual amount of work involved in keyword research, SEO, content creation, monetization, optimizing conversions, etc. is pretty much about the same as if you just make your own website from scratch.
      Hmm, maybe there are some people who don't know how to build a website? Think about the time it would cost to earn how to build one, would'nt buying a site for 50 bucks be a better solution?

      The only thing i can tell you about how to make money with a new site is you have to have patience, since it takes time to grow a site.
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Originally Posted by metoya View Post

    What does it take to make money with these?
    Best case scenario:

    You buy some advertising and send it to the ready made site and make a profit.


    Worst case scenario:

    You buy some advertising and send it to the ready made site, make no money and get a lawsuit on top of it because the seller did not care about copyrights and just "took it from the internet" and then sold it to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author run
    Don't expect to make money without any effort. Those ready made site are not making money, but money will roll in if you have traffic and better monetization of the site. There is no money in that ready made site, but it could save you a ton a time if you're a newbie who don't know how to build a site. It also a fast track to take action immediately without messing with the daunting tasks of the initial step of building up a site.

    Some ready made sites are complete with a full tasks from keywords research, customizing/creating theme, adding contents/articles with on page optimization, and upto off page optimization/link building. These are are all steps to run money making sites.

    Make sure that the sellers know what they're doing. Never expect the money will be there without money or efforts, and also there are no true guarantee that the sites is going to earn money.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      If the sites are so easy to make money with, why are they selling them?
      Why do you sell reports and downloads on your website if you could just use that information to make more money for yourself?
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      • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
        Good question. I think the template websites you are referring to COULD work fine. Some of them are perfectly good and perfectly legitimate business models.

        The problems come when...

        1. The buyer has unrealistic expectations about the amount of work involved to make the new site a success, thinking or wanting to believe it will be far simpler than it really will be

        2. The seller overstates the 'ease' in which the site could start profiting. Not necessarily straight up fabrications (although these ARE seen regularly on auction sites like Flippa so be careful!) but more like 'white lies' and 'half truths'. After all, that IS the point of a good sales letter, right? To make the process seem as easy as possible and the results as fantastic as possible??

        There is often a massive disconnect between 1 and 2.

        My thoughts?

        If you (or the buyers of these affordable starter sites) don't have the expertise to put together a basic website in X niche selling Y service by yourself, how can you possibly expect to have the expertise to run the website profitably and turn it into a winner?

        After all, building a website is magnitudes easier than making one profitable from scratch.




        Really great point and got a chuckle out of this.....

        Originally Posted by Chase Watts View Post

        Why do you sell reports and downloads on your website if you could just use that information to make more money for yourself?
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        • Profile picture of the author welshgirl2
          Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

          The problems come when...

          1. The buyer has unrealistic expectations about the amount of work involved to make the new site a success, thinking or wanting to believe it will be far simpler than it really will be

          2. The seller overstates the 'ease' in which the site could start profiting. Not necessarily straight up fabrications (although these ARE seen regularly on auction sites like Flippa so be careful!) but more like 'white lies' and 'half truths'. After all, that IS the point of a good sales letter, right? To make the process seem as easy as possible and the results as fantastic as possible??
          I couldn't agree more with these two points.

          Turnkey/Ready made websites are not "get rich quick" schemes. They are simply as the name suggests websites that are ready made.

          The profit does not come from the website, but comes from the amount of time and energy you put into driving traffic to that website.

          The problems arise when vendors hand out unrealistic claims which gives the customer unrealistic expectations.

          A good turnkey website provider will not only provide you with a ready made website but will help you to understand that you need to put the work in to make any income.

          If you are looking for something to make you rich overnight then turnkey websites aren't for you. In fact internet marketing probably isn't for you either.
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    • Profile picture of the author MrJonny
      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      If the sites are so easy to make money with, why are they selling them?
      It's like someone providing a factory building service. Whether the factory will turn out to be profitable will depend on your marketing, packaging and sales.

      It is similar to a website. The success of the website will depend on the content that you post, the social connections, SEO and other marketing aspects. I guess it is good for people who don't want to pick up the technical skills but would still like to publish content and make the website a profitable business?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Originally Posted by metoya View Post

    Are ready made sites a viable option for making money online? I've seen many sellers here that offer authority sites and mini niche sites. What does it take to make money with these? Any advice would be appreciated.:confused:
    From my own experience selling and buying Ready Made Sites and from my client's experience it is not the website that makes money.. it is the person operating the website that makes money.

    Jeffery 100% :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author jimvol
    Those sites are not making $10.00 per day.

    Why? Because if they were making $10.00 per day, they would not be for sale.

    $10.00 per day is what $3560? They are going to sell you a website worth $3560.00 per year in pure profit for a few hundred bucks?

    Yea right..

    Put your bootstraps back on.. there is only one real, sustainable way to do this.

    Old Fashioned Hard Work

    Thanks!

    Jeremiah
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by metoya View Post

    Are ready made sites a viable option for making money online? I've seen many sellers here that offer authority sites and mini niche sites. What does it take to make money with these? Any advice would be appreciated.:confused:
    It takes the same thing that any site takes to make money. Targeted traffic. They don't come with ready-made targeted traffic and it'll be your responsibility to get that. In addition, you'll probably want to do other things such as continue to add unique content, SEO, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      It takes the same thing that any site takes to make money. Targeted traffic. They don't come with ready-made targeted traffic and it'll be your responsibility to get that. In addition, you'll probably want to do other things such as continue to add unique content, SEO, etc.
      This ^

      If you know what you are doing ready made sites can save you time and money. As essentially they are the same thing.

      BUT as above, you need to know how to get targeted traffic - if you are buying a ready made site in hope of just buying it and not promoting then you probably won't get far!
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  • Profile picture of the author mialove
    1. The buyer has unrealistic expectations about the amount of work involved to make the new site a success, thinking or wanting to believe it will be far simpler than it really will be
    I think that buyer has unrealistic expectations, because of those sells letter, that promises a lot of money for very little work.
    Something like: " only 30 minutes per day, and we guarantee you 500$ a month per website or money back".
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by mialove View Post

      I think that buyer has unrealistic expectations, because of those sells letter, that promises a lot of money for very little work.
      Something like: " only 30 minutes per day, and we guarantee you 500$ a month per website or money back".
      I would avoid any ready-made sites that are turnkey sites that "guarantee" income. Income of a site cannot be guaranteed. The buyer needs to do the work to generate income.

      There's nothing wrong with saving yourself both time and expense by buying a ready made site, but don't think that you just install it and BAM ... you make money because it just ain't so.
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    • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
      Absolutely Mia-

      I don't disagree with your statement at all, and what you are saying sort of falls in line with bullet point 2.

      You might call it gullibility, you might call it human nature, but quite often, the objectives of the writer of the sales letters and the visitors TO the sales letters fall in line quite nicely with each other.

      The website builder/seller wants to sell a website and get paid while the prospect may be looking for a quick fix solution and wants to believe this could be the way to them making an easy 2k + per month....

      Are some of the sales letters or funnels selling these types of sites outlandish and over the top with pie in the sky promises?

      Absolutely!

      Do we need to believe everything we read online and take it as fact?

      Absolutely not!

      Remember, there are people that get scammed (both online an off) each and every day! Most of it comes down to the basic human emotion of greed... wanting to get a lot for a little.

      This is how the Nigerian bank scammers and Ponzi scammers thrive. They know their victims better than the victims know themselves.


      Originally Posted by mialove View Post

      I think that buyer has unrealistic expectations, because of those sells letter, that promises a lot of money for very little work.
      Something like: " only 30 minutes per day, and we guarantee you 500$ a month per website or money back".
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  • Profile picture of the author evilsaigon
    It really depends on the stats of the website that you're buying. If it's already constantly receiving like thousands of organic visitors a day, it means the guy has done his traffic building and the seo for you, which I do think can be a worthwhile investment though its often really expensive. You can just leech off the traffic, optimize and monetize the site with a little tweaking, and you r good to go. Btw you can monetize with your own affiliate offers, and adsense.

    But if its just a pure content website with no traffic, i think you r better off outsourcing one yourself especially if you r on a tight budget, as they tend to be overpriced, unless you prefer to get it done once and for all. Make sure the content is unique, not plr or any junk content, or else you should rewrite the content with quality.

    If the seller purchases ppc traffic as the main source, i would consider buying the site if the seller can show the traffic converts very well to sales or subscribers, basically the site's income report.
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  • Yes they work, and no they aren't bought for the right reasons the majority of the time. This isn't the sellers fault and it's the buyer who is to blame to think they can buy a made website for them for under $100 and have it earning even $1 per day, let alone $10-100.

    The seller provides them with a good theme, some example content to get users started and driving traffic, perhaps all to serve as template Articles from which to get ideas and refer back to.

    If you want a proven converting site, you want to buy Done For You websites from sellers who have a track record of having used the same sort of websites for their own business. After that, it's up to you to carry on with content and to market that site.

    For $40-60 here's what you are getting and saving:

    Rights to theme which you no longer have to purchase (unless it's free) - $20-120
    Premium Plugins if ANY is provided - $7-50 (rarely do I find more expensive)
    A set of Articles - $10-100 (depends on quality, price and uniqueness)
    Header/logo - $5-20
    Optional Keyword Research - $5-10
    List of future Articles - $5-10

    Atleast, that's what I would provide if I were to do Done For You websites, with an addon guide to getting traffic, and where.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    I remember back in the day, (many moons ago) we sold template based websites that were customized, for big bucks, that slowly changed, back then you didn't even need to monetize at all, now that has changed too.

    These days if you want to really make money flipping websites you have to add Value...

    Everything that you can do to add value, will help increase the price at which you may sell your developed property.

    Think of it like you would land, at least in the US undeveloped land is the cheapest to buy, but if the land has been cleared and landscaped, then its more valuable.

    It the land has water and power it is even more valuable, and so on...

    Everything matters in how valuable a website property is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevinhoss
    Buyers definitely should weigh first these points to ponder stated here.
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  • Profile picture of the author TMJsall
    I'm just getting started. I payed for a theme, some plug-ins, and someone to make changes I couldn't figure out. It took a lot of time and a little over a hundred dollars. I have seen some for sale for around $250. If I would have known that then I would have bought one. It would have saved me time. My vision for success still has to be implemented...I think spending money on useless stuff is part of the process. For me it was a WSO or 2...others probably buy sites that aren't worth it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    IMHO and from experience it is not logical to put all Ready Made Sites (RMS) under the same umbrella. Simply because not all are the same. Some are better than others.

    When you browse through this forums "Complete Web Sites For Sale!" there are different merchants selling different RMS. Compare those from long standing members with tons of sales (Quality RMS) to others that have little to no sales. The differences are many, but the main difference is the Quality RMS actually earn money.

    ^ See For Yourself ^ it is a fact. Always has been and always will be. So, anyone that comments RMS does not make money is just not knowledgeable enough to make the comment.

    Some people I think are confusing what a RMS is. Some refer to RMS as a complete website or a turnkey website and others refer to it as a website with a sales page. In fact, all three could be classified as RMS and therein is the root of the confusion...

    ..."Putting Ready Made Sites (RMS) under the same umbrella."

    As I said before ".. it is not the website that makes money.. it is the person operating the website that makes money."

    Jeffery 100% :-)
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