Ten stylish men who define effortless cool

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Just saw this headline in my local rag, so had to have a look.

Their choices were:
1. Alain Delon
2. Johnny Depp
3. Paul Newman
4. Bob Dylan
5. Giorgio Armani
6. Ryan Gosling
7. Sting
8. George Best
9. Serge Gainsbourgh
10. Enzo Ferrari

I know lists are inevitably subjective, but I didn't agree with any of them.

Following the definition of cool as effortless elegance, I would have chosen:

1. Cary Grant
2. Fred Astaire
3. George Clooney (a Cary Grant clone!)
4. Dean Martin
5. Noel Coward
6. Ronald Reagan
7. Sir John Gielgud
8. John Le Mesurier
9. Jack Kennedy
10. (Surprisingly!) Prince Charles

Special mention to Clark Gable.

Interestingly enough, I couldn't think of any from the modern era, apart from George. Has coolness, wit, understated elegance gone out of fashion?
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    Put both of those lists together and you have a list of men that I would kill to have at a party - or even around permanently.
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    Where is Mike Tyson in that list????
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      Where is Mike Tyson in that list????
      Where he belongs, nowhere.
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        Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

        Where is Mike Tyson in that list????
        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        Where he belongs, nowhere.
        I'm almost certain that suggestion was intended as a joke. But then again ...


        Effortless cool? Here's my choice:

        Frank Sinatra
        Muhammad Ali
        Keith Richards
        Johnny Depp
        Miles Davis
        Albert Camus
        Dean Martin
        Steve McQueen
        Cary Grant
        Marlon Brando

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      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      Where is Mike Tyson in that list????
      He's grabbing a bite......

      (Watch out Evander!)
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        He's grabbing a bite......
        OUCH!

        By the way... forgot one of the coolest of them all... Carlos Santana.


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        • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post


          By the way... forgot one of the coolest of them all... Carlos Santana.


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          There you go, a little Latin Soul. What a cool name. Carlos Santana!
          I wonder if that's his real name. It seems a little 'too' cool. If it is, he has to have some cool parents.
          He wears some of the coolest hats too
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            Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

            There you go, a little Latin Soul. What a cool name. Carlos Santana!
            I wonder if that's his real name. It seems a little 'too' cool. If it is, he has to have some cool parents.
            He wears some of the coolest hats too
            Appears to be his real name. Older brother Jorge Santana is also a professional guitar player.
            Carlos Santana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    I'd add Robert Plant, Tom Jones and Lemmy to those lists.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      I 'll add Jimmy Swaggart and Charles Nelson Riley to that List
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by peter_act View Post

    4. Bob Dylan
    Sorry, but this has ALWAYS been a puzzle to me.

    He may be a hell of a poet and songwriter, but he sure is not cool sounding or cool looking.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      Sorry, but this has ALWAYS been a puzzle to me.

      He may be a hell of a poet and songwriter, but he sure is not cool sounding or cool looking.
      Really? How old are you Robert? Maybe you don't remember the young Dylan. He was pretty cool.

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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        True Tim. I guess he sure didn't age gracefully.

        I know that is shallow on my part.
        I admit.

        But honestly, I just never liked his voice.

        I appreciate the Songs he wrote, no question.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Chuck Berry is 100x as cool as Dylan:


    James Dean pretty much invented cool. I prefer Levis and tee shirts over fancy suits any day:

    Also on my list not mentioned above:
    Lee Marvin
    Nat King Cole
    Sean Connery
    Young Elvis
    John Wayne
    Michael Jordan
    Joe Namath
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    Patrick Swayze
    Robert Mitchum
    Bryan Ferry
    JFK
    David Bowie
    James Brown
    Samuel L. Jackson
    Denzel Washington
    Sean Connery
    Tom Selleck
    Robert De Niro
    James Garner
    Sinatra
    Nicholson
    Val Kilmer
    Charles Bronson
    James Coburn
    Lee Marvin
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    • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
      Hey man where's the Brotha's?

      How are you going to have a list of men who are stylish ...and cool, with no Brotha? Really?
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        Hey man where's the Brotha's?
        Good point.

        Jimi Hendrix deserves to be on the list. So does Bill Cosby. I'm not quite sure if Brits can be "Brothas", but Lenny Henry is pretty cool as well.
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        Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

        Patrick Swayze
        Robert Mitchum
        Bryan Ferry
        JFK
        David Bowie
        James Brown
        Samuel L. Jackson
        Denzel Washington

        Sean Connery
        Tom Selleck
        Robert De Niro
        James Garner
        Sinatra
        Nicholson
        Val Kilmer
        Charles Bronson
        James Coburn
        Lee Marvin
        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        Hey man where's the Brotha's?

        How are you going to have a list of men who are stylish ...and cool, with no Brotha? Really?
        Okay, I had three on my list. I'll also throw in Bill Clinton, the first black president.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          The coolest guy mentioned so far is Miles Davis. IMO.

          Picasso would always be at the top of my list for being cool though. He was a rock star before there was rock.
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          • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            The coolest guy mentioned so far is Miles Davis. IMO.
            You have to be extremely cool to even know who Miles Davis is.
            You can't get much cooler than Miles Davis, even the name is Coo....L!

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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

              You have to be extremely cool to even know who Miles Davis is.
              You can't get much cooler than...
              Yep. And who is cooler than Coltrane, besides Miles? Charlie Parker? Bird was perhaps the coolest! And where would Thelonious Monk fit in?
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              • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                Yep. And who is cooler than Coltrane, besides Miles? Charlie Parker? Bird was perhaps the coolest! And where would Thelonious Monk fit in?
                Howlin Wolf
                John Lee Hooker
                JJ Watt
                Pat Tillman
                Joe Louis
                Dr. J
                Babe Ruth

                ...just to name a few more.
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                • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                  Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                  Howlin Wolf
                  John Lee Hooker
                  JJ Watt
                  Pat Tillman
                  Joe Louis
                  Dr. J
                  Babe Ruth

                  ...just to name a few more.
                  Babe Ruth cool? Joe Louis was a great fighter. But cool? Don't think so. None of these were cooler than Coltrane or Miles.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                    Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                    Babe Ruth cool? Joe Louis was a great fighter. But cool? Don't think so. None of these were cooler than Coltrane or Miles.
                    Babe Ruth was very cool. Who else could drink beer and eat hot dogs until he passed out in the dugout, then hit a homer?

                    Plus his classic line about making more than President Hoover, which was unheard of at the time...Babe said, "I had a better year."

                    I went to see John Lee Hooker when he was about 78 years old. After the show he invited everyone in the audience to go back stage and spend a few minutes with him. My ex and I got in line and got to meet him. He was drinking a Coors Light and spent a few minutes talking with us and flirting with my ex (in a friendly way). Yes, it's cool when a 78 year old legend spends time with his fans when other stars would have been in their limo heading back to their hotel.

                    Sorry, but just playing jazz and smoking a cigarette doesn't make someone cool.
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                    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


                      Sorry, but just playing jazz and smoking a cigarette doesn't make someone cool.
                      Lol. Yep. That's all that Miles and Coltrane did. Smoke cigarettes and play jazz.

                      Of course being cool is subjective. Everyone has their own opinion about what is and who are cool. I would agree with Howling Wolf and Hooker. Chuck Berry? Babe Ruth? Nope.

                      BTW, here's a list of the coolest 100 Americans:

                      The 100 coolest Americans - Telegraph
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                        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                        Lol. Yep. That's all that Miles and Coltrane did. Smoke cigarettes and play jazz.

                        Of course being cool is subjective. Everyone has their own opinion about what is and who are cool. I would agree with Howling Wolf and Hooker. Chuck Berry? Babe Ruth? Nope.

                        BTW, here's a list of the coolest 100 Americans:

                        The 100 coolest Americans - Telegraph
                        Chuck Berry not cool? Seriously? You need to have your cool checker checked.
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                        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                          Chuck Berry not cool? Seriously? You need to have your cool checker checked.
                          He's cooler than the average bear but I don't think I'm alone when I don't think of him as being one of the coolest people. He is an important, influential and historical figure in music for sure though.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                          You have to be extremely cool to even know who Miles Davis is.
                          Umm.... I know who Miles Davis is, which pretty conclusively disproves that claim.

                          As far as musicians, I'd immediately nominate BB King and Stevie Ray Vaughan. Delbert McClinton. Johnny Cash. Brian Setzer. And can't forget Leon Redbone. David Bromberg, too, although that would hardly be a universal choice.

                          BTW... "So What?" is one of my favorites. If I'm out and the jukebox is being dominated by too much rap, I'll skip that one into the mix. It's amazing how quickly the rap fans start playing Etta James or Aretha after that.

                          Both of whom should also be added to the list, now that I think of it.


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                        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post


                        BTW, here's a list of the coolest 100 Americans:

                        The 100 coolest Americans - Telegraph
                        Why is Audrey Hepburn on that list? She's not American.
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                      • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
                        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                        Lol. Yep. That's all that Miles and Coltrane did. Smoke cigarettes and play jazz.

                        Of course being cool is subjective. Everyone has their own opinion about what is and who are cool. I would agree with Howling Wolf and Hooker. Chuck Berry? Babe Ruth? Nope.

                        BTW, here's a list of the coolest 100 Americans:

                        The 100 coolest Americans - Telegraph
                        Neil Young - Canadian
                        I'm sure there are other non-Americans as Lynn M pointed out - Hepburn
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                          Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                          Neil Young - Canadian
                          I'm sure there are other non-Americans as Lynn M pointed out - Hepburn
                          Yeah, the columnist mentioned this. "...and includes, bizarrely, some non-Americans (such as Canadian-born Neil Young and Belgian-born Audrey Hepburn). Neil Young lives not to far from me in La Honda and has been here for about close to 50 years I think. He's still a Canadian citizen though.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        Hey man where's the Brotha's?

        How are you going to have a list of men who are stylish ...and cool, with no Brotha? Really?
        Eddie Murphy broke the mold. Denzel is kinda ripping his thunder these days, though. I'm going to take Ali off the list, though. He was a pretty awesome guy in his day, but he had that boxer thing goin' on and I'm not fond of that....in any guy. J. Ellis and Columbus Short are pretty swave - they'd be on the invite list in a heartbeat.
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        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        Hey man where's the Brotha's?

        How are you going to have a list of men who are stylish ...and cool, with no Brotha? Really?
        I said Mike Tyson.
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        • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
          O.k, at least you're starting to give this discussion some balance (that's cool in itself). You guys (and gals) had me worried for a second.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

          I said Mike Tyson.
          I may be the last person to judge someone's "coolness".

          And I can see just about every person listed. I did notice an absence of women.

          But I burst out laughing when I read your post.
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            I did notice an absence of women.
            Did you also notice the thread title?

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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

              Did you also notice the thread title?

              Shut up....wait....LIAR!

              I was questioning the irony of the title. The insinuation that only men would be cool. I was speaking for all the women of the world, and I'm taking a stand! This thread has brought to my attention the injustices in this world, as regards representation of women in lists of cool men. It's a travesty, I tell you...a travesty!

              Ok, All of the was nonsense, I just wasn't paying attention.
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        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        Hey man where's the Brotha's?

        How are you going to have a list of men who are stylish ...and cool, with no Brotha? Really?
        There are definitely some "Brothas" who should be on the list.....

        Bob Marley
        Denzel Washington
        Samuel Jackson
        Sidney Poitier
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        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        Hey man where's the Brotha's?

        How are you going to have a list of men who are stylish ...and cool, with no Brotha? Really?
        I'm not sure why but I always think Will I Am is probably the coolest chap out there.

        No idea why either. Whenever I see him though he always seems so relaxed and chilled out.

        Bob Marley was pretty cool too. Smoked a bit too much but was dam cool all the same.

        Pharrell Williams is also pretty cool.

        Anyway, it's not a race thing. Every body can be cool.
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        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        Hey man where's the Brotha's?

        How are you going to have a list of men who are stylish ...and cool, with no Brotha? Really?
        Harry Belafonte
        Will Smith

        Your suggestions?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Rodd
    Neil Patrick Harris didn't made the list. He's Legend.....


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    Men are cool...
    Women are hot.

    That's how these magazines classify people.
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      Originally Posted by Rick Rodd View Post

      Men are cool...
      Women are hot.

      That's how these magazines classify people.

      My Dad was Cool, and my Mom was Hot. That explain completely why I'm tepid.
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    Cool guys don't look at explosions. That's one requirement. Just curious what the other criteria are.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Rick Rodd View Post

      Cool guys don't look at explosions. That's one requirement. Just curious what the other criteria are.
      Cool guys;

      Never turn back to look at explosions (Thanks for that one Rick)
      Always argue to volunteer for a suicide mission.
      Are experts at throwing knives...always.
      Know how to drive or fly any vehicle.
      Can always remember a 34 digit code, after hearing it once.
      Have flashbacks, every 30 minutes..to show a strong early parental influence.
      Every time they get a bag of millions of dollars in cash...they throw it away...because it's never about the money.
      Always kiss a girl, the very second their wife or girlfriend (Who is on vacation in another country) walks through the door and catches them.
      Can walk out of a building engulfed in flames...and they have one smudge on their cheek...and perfect hair.
      Never go to the bathroom. Ever.
      Never cough, unless they have been poisoned.
      Always have perfect teeth...even in ancient Rome....even in the stone age. Always.
      They just get in their car, with a beautiful girl..and drive. without a plan, or means of support, or a change of clothes, or a destination, or a place to stay...they just drive into the sunset.
      They somehow know the combination to every lock.
      They are trained martial artists who never spend time training.
      Always die...1,3 seconds after they said a very poignant catch phrase...in someone's arms.


      And when the cool guy walks into the room, the women swoon for him, and leave their husbands for him.....even though he has no real job...just a car.....and a pack of cigarettes...

      And he fights other men for no real reason, except to impress a girl...that he hasn't met yet. And the guys he beats up never get revenge, or sue, or call the police. And he knocks them out by hitting them in the jaw. with a punch that took 30 seconds to hit the mark. And it always knocks out the bad guy...for at least 30 minutes.....

      He can dance, incredibly well. In fact, he knows every style of dance. And he's an expert in wines, cigars, cars, perfumes, art, and can really sing.

      His kisses give women an orgasm. And he has a 100% cure ratio for lesbians..hot lesbians.

      and even if he's been in the desert for days, he refuses food..."Just coffee...Black...and a cigarette"
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Cool guys;
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        Take blow after blow in a fist fight without batting an eyelid, yet after the fight when a maiden dabs at their wounds delicately, they wince in agony.
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      Originally Posted by Rick Rodd View Post

      Cool guys don't look at explosions. That's one requirement. Just curious what the other criteria are.
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      Cool guys always shoot accurately. While on horseback. Always.
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        Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

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        Cool guys always shoot accurately. While on horseback. Always.
        And despite being out in the open and being shot at by multiple villains, never get hit.
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        • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
          One thing everyone's forgot, one of the most important things to have if you're cool. The walk, the strut, the swagger. If you don't have that, you aint cool ... sorry!

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        • Profile picture of the author peter_act
          Well, I think the reason we have so many nominations is to do with the definition of "cool". Obviously there are a number of definitions, but I made my list with more regard to the word "stylish", which is why Cary Grant topped my list.

          My own inference from reading the whole headline was that nominations had to be classy, for want of a better word.

          And classy to me has many of the traits listed by Claude. I was going to put James Bond in my list, but thought the thread might go off track with discussion about who was the better Bond. (Sean or Roger - there are no other contenders). You have to look good in a tuxedo or a casual sweater.

          Combining "stylish" and "classy" with "cool" rather rules out most of the musical nominations - I would never call Bob Dylan "stylish".

          But if you ignore the word "stylish" in the headline, then indeed most of the jazz musicians would fit the definition of "cool".

          Incidentally, there was a TV program in the sixties which did combine "stylish" with "cool". It was called "Peter Gunn", which combines a suave sophisticated private eye (Craig Stevens?) with a mellow jazz soundtrack by Henry Mancini, which was integral to the series, and set it apart from other private eye shows. Anyone remember that? I can't imagine Peter Falk in the role!

          But there is a third definition of "cool", which is mainly applied to the young and rebellious. Bob Dylan in his younger years and James Dean probably fitted this term, also the epitome of young cool - the Fonz.

          Anyway, dreaming up my list filled in a casual Sunday afternoon half hour, if nothing else.

          By the way, do any US readers know who Noel Coward and John le Mesurier were?
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          • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
            I find this an interesting thread because as you can see many people's definition of cool, and/or stylish is as personal as our thumbprints. That's one of those discussions where it could get hot and heavy. But fortunately this thread is blessed with the level headed and mature. Everyone seems to be having fun with it instead of being over-serious.

            Cool and stylish seems more of a generational, cultural and even economic bend. For example you mentioned you wouldn't consider Bob Dylan as stylish, but millions of people would because he's influenced so many styles that you still see in some of the top fashion houses today Here's an Example.

            But that's O.k, like I said stylish is perception more than people will admit. For example, one generation that would call Cary Grant stylish, another would call stodgy. And one generation that would call Fleetwood Mac extreme another would call tame. So it's all in perspective.

            In my generation and probably yours a suit and a tie was considered stylish, but the "mellinials" consider suits and ties almost prudish. In fact, suits are cheaper now than ever for that reason, fewer people are wearing them. I've seen 2 popular suit chain stores close this year in my city.

            But I like the title of the thread "stylish and effortless cool", they go together. Because if you "appear" to be working too hard at it, it's not stylish or ... cool.

            It's about finding what you're individually comfortable with, bottom line. It's not trying to fit into some other persons mold of what cool or stylish is. That the biggest definition of cool or stylish, IMO.
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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

              For example you mentioned you wouldn't consider Bob Dylan as stylish, but millions of people would because he's influenced so many styles that you still see in some of the top fashion houses today
              Good point. Miles Davis was well known for being a great dresser. "Davis was the best-dressed man of the 20th century." says columnist Jon Wilde of GQ and The Guardian. He would change his style over the years almost as much as he would change his music. Over two decades after his death people still talk about his style. Here's a couple examples:

              TSY STYLE HALL OF FAME | MILES DAVIS | The Selvedge Yard
              How to Dress Like Miles Davis: The Daily Details: Blog : Details

              Miles also had a very sharp wit.

              In 1987, he was invited to a White House dinner by Ronald Reagan. Few of the guests appeared to know who he was. During dinner, Nancy Reagan turned to him and asked what he'd done with his life to merit an invitation. Straight-faced, Davis replied: "Well, I've changed the course of music five or six times. What have you done except **** the president?" This story was retold by Nancy herself on her blog a couple years ago.

              Miles once chastised Coltrane for playing too long a solo. Coltrane replied apologetically that; 'Sorry Miles, I just get carried away, I get these ideas in my head which just keep coming and coming and sometimes I just can't stop'. Davis laconically replied; 'Try taking the mother****** out of yo' mouth'.
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              • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                Good point. Miles Davis was well known for being a great dresser. "Davis was the best-dressed man of the 20th century." says columnist Jon Wilde of GQ and The Guardian. He would change his style over the years almost as much as he would change his music. Over two decades after his death people still talk about his style. Here's a couple examples:

                TSY STYLE HALL OF FAME | MILES DAVIS | The Selvedge Yard
                How to Dress Like Miles Davis: The Daily Details: Blog : Details

                Miles also had a very sharp wit.

                In 1987, he was invited to a White House dinner by Ronald Reagan. Few of the guests appeared to know who he was. During dinner, Nancy Reagan turned to him and asked what he'd done with his life to merit an invitation. Straight-faced, Davis replied: "Well, I've changed the course of music five or six times. What have you done except **** the president?" This story was retold by Nancy herself on her blog a couple years ago.

                Miles once chastised Coltrane for playing too long a solo. Coltrane replied apologetically that; 'Sorry Miles, I just get carried away, I get these ideas in my head which just keep coming and coming and sometimes I just can't stop'. Davis laconically replied; 'Try taking the mother****** out of yo' mouth'.
                I'm very sorry Tim. That's a beautiful story about Miles Davis and Nancy Reagan. But it's an often told urban legend. Here;

                snopes.com: Miles Davis Insults Nancy Reagan?
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                • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  I'm very sorry Tim. That's a beautiful story about Miles Davis and Nancy Reagan. But it's an often told urban legend. Here;

                  snopes.com: Miles Davis Insults Nancy Reagan?
                  Thanks Claude. It sounded too good to be true. As Jon Wilde said "If it is indeed only an urban legend, that's a shame." I guess the Nancy blog was a fake one. My bad. I should have known Nancy wouldn't have a blog on blogspot. lol

                  I do like the "real" story that Miles told in regards to this though from the White House visit.

                  At the table where I was sitting, a politician's wife said some silly shit about jazz, like "Are we supporting this art form just because it's here in this country, and is it art in its truest form, or are we just being blasé and ignoring jazz because it comes from here and not from Europe, and it comes from black people?"

                  This came from out of the blue. I don't like questions like that because they're just questions from someone who's trying to sound intelligent, when in fact they don't give a damn about it. I looked at her and said, "What is it? Jazz time or something? Why you ask me some shit like that?"

                  So she said, "Well, you're a jazz musician, aren't you?"

                  So I said, "I'm a musician, that's all" [...] "Do you really want to know why jazz music isn't given the credit in this country?" [...] "Jazz is ignored here because the white man likes to win everything. White people like to see other white people win just like you do and they can't win when it comes to jazz and blues because black people created this. And so when we play in Europe, white people over there appreciate us because they know who did what and they will admit it. But most white Americans won't."

                  She looked at me and turned all red and shit, and then she said, "Well, what have you done that's so important in your life? Why are you here?"

                  Now, I just hate shit like this coming from someone who is ignorant, but who wants to be hip and has forced you into a situation where you're talking to them in this manner. She brought this on herself. So then I said, "Well, I changed music five or six times, so I guess that's what I've done and I guess I don't believe in playing just white compositions." I looked at her real cold and said, "Now, tell me what have you done of any importance other than being white, and that ain't important to me, so tell me what your claim to fame is?"

                  "She started to twitch and everything around her mouth. She couldn't even talk she was so mad. There was a silence so thick you could cut it with a knife. Here this woman was supposedly from the hippest echelons of society talking like a fool. Man, it was depressing."
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                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  I'm very sorry Tim. That's a beautiful story about Miles Davis and Nancy Reagan. But it's an often told urban legend.
                  Yes, it's a fake. The real story is: at that White House dinner, Miles asked Nancy what she ever saw in Ronald. She told him "I don’t care if a dude is purple with green breath as long as he can swing."

                  "I wish I had said that." Miles replied.

                  "You will, Mr. Davis, you will." said Nancy.

                  (From Miles' Facebook page.)
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                  • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                    Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

                    Yes, it's a fake. The real story is that at that White House dinner, Miles asked Nancy what she ever saw in Ronald. She told him "I don't care if a dude is purple with green breath as long as he can swing."

                    "I wish I had said that." Miles replied.

                    "You will, Mr. Davis, you will." said Nancy.

                    (From Miles' Facebook page.)
                    Lol. About as likely as Nancy having a blog. What was I thinking?
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    Well, I, for one, have had all I can handle of this thread. I've never really been fond of
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Rodd
    Too mindblown to think about all these stuff. Thanks for the hefty input everybody. Can't make it to coolness? I'll be awesome instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyW
    If a man is to be judged by his "threads,"
    then all of us active Warriors are SUPER cool!

    (see what I did there?)

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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by TimothyW View Post

      If a man is to be judged by his "threads,"
      then all of us active Warriors are SUPER cool!

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      You live in Hawaii anyway, in London, anyone or thing about Hawaii looks pretty cool.

      Well, anywhere you go and beautiful scantily clad women put a chain of flowers over you as you arrive is bloody cool in my eyes and high of my list on places to visit.

      If they still do that of course.
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