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It's a site with an agenda - it's was an incident 4 years ago - if the video is as clear as described, this will be handled in court.

the name of that savage country

try reading the headline...or the link

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sbucciarel

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Originally Posted by HN

Sorry but it says USA. Such a thing couldn't have happened in a "civilized" country, a flagship of democracy. This whole thing must be a conspiracy for sure.

Why don't you just stuff it troll.

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Mikaedi

10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Why don't you just stuff it troll.

How can you tell HN is a troll sbucciarel and Seasoned ?

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whateverpedia 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Mikaedi

How can you tell HN is a troll sbucciarel and Seasoned ?

Because he's been banned before for that kind of behaviour.
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  How can you tell HN is a troll sbucciarel and Seasone
  
  Because his only contributions are negative comments, rude comments, and comments that bash people in other countries...
  
  Blather with no substance gets old after a time....
  
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  Because his only contributions are negative comments, rude comments, and comments that bash people in other countries...
  
  Not quite his only contributions, unfortunately: as the moderators are aware, he sends abusive, insulting and threatening private messages, too.
  
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sbucciarel

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Originally Posted by Mikaedi

How can you tell HN is a troll sbucciarel and Seasoned ?

Because HN pm'd me some time ago and showed his hand. He's one of the Alexa Smith conspiracy trolls and he thought he could pm me with his BS and I'd buy right into it.

I didn't and told him so. He's a troll. Nothing more. He has no valuable input on anything. He is only here to harass Alexa and troll the forum until he is banned once again (and he's been banned numerous times before).

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whateverpedia 10 years ago

Originally Posted by HN

<crap snipped>

If they ban me, then you know what this place is about -- protecting the liars and thieves.

Or perhaps it's about protecting long standing members who've contributed to the betterment of this forum from dickhead trolls.
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sbucciarel

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Originally Posted by HN

I know "conspiracy" is your favorite word. But since you decided to bring up the old topic here you go.

How can you explain that the archived page on Feb 17th, 2012 shows her avatar as a picture of a ...

I already explained in full detail in my pm that Alexa could be a big fat man with a red buzz cut and I could care less. Alexa, as I know her, is a friend of mine. You most definitely are not. I don't care about her or anyone else's avatar or even if they are not the sex that they pretend to be, and I'm not in any way implying this is the case. I only care that Alexa and I have been friends for years and I respect her opinions and I think most of the time, she respects mine.

But I'm glad you came out with this. I've reported it and given the mod a long history to chew on.

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frankhill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

It's a site with an agenda - it's was an incident 4 years ago - if the video is as clear as described, this will be handled in court.

try reading the headline...or the link

Yes the events took place in 2010 but I read about it for the first time today.....Posted on October 24, 2014 by Larry Hohol in News. It makes it no less troubling to me.

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SteveJohnson 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

It's a site with an agenda - it's was an incident 4 years ago - if the video is as clear as described, this will be handled in court.

We like to think so, but sadly it isn't always the case. In order for the adversarial-type justice system to work, the defense needs to be as powerful and motivated as the prosecution.

Law-enforcement and prosecutorial intimidation is well documented, but cleaning it up is another matter entirely.
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Kurt 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

It's a site with an agenda - it's was an incident 4 years ago - if the video is as clear as described, this will be handled in court.

The problem may well be the court was a part of the problem, which is one of the points made by the author of the article. Sometimes it's up to the public and the media to hold the justice system accountable.

As far as any "agenda" is concerned, I found it interesting that a former LEO wrote the article.
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HeySal

10 years ago

Sad to say, this kind of crap is going on every day. The number of people killed by cops is escalating. The number of family dogs killed is escalating. Very rarely does a cop get charged for it. When they do, it's because someone filmed the incident.

I don't know the exact details of this case, but I am not surprised by it. I've seen this kind of thing go on. What chills me is the amount of militia equipment being sent to police departments now. Since when are police supposed to be militia?

You can check here to see what military gear your local police are receiving:
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Not sure what we're expecting out here that our police in my county need grenades for.

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Kay King 10 years ago

Happened in 2010 - he was convicted of four counts - he served his sentence.

In 2012 he filed suit for police brutality - I'd say he had a good case. Don't know if that's gone to trial. The blogger is setting a case up as "that judge is crooked' and I think that's a bit of a crock.

I don't see the point of pulling up old news stories presented as "current" by blogs that clearly have an agenda ('police state'). Just my opinion and not worth much at that.

Goodness knows - there's enough bad stuff going on currently without having to dig for something to be outraged about.

HN loves to bash USA - won't say where he's from but I'm sure it's a bastion of freedom and culture and success.
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ThomM

10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Sad to say, this kind of crap is going on every day. The number of people killed by cops is escalating. The number of family dogs killed is escalating. Very rarely does a cop get charged for it. When they do, it's because someone filmed the incident.

I don't know the exact details of this case, but I am not surprised by it. I've seen this kind of thing go on. What chills me is the amount of militia equipment being sent to police departments now. Since when are police supposed to be militia?

You can check here to see what military gear your local police are receiving:
Military_equip_to_states Search and Report

Not sure what we're expecting out here that our police in my county need grenades for.

Boots, flat paneled monitors, and shirts

Albany county got a bunch of night vision gear and Washington county a bunch of hunting rifles.

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HeySal

10 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

Boots, flat paneled monitors, and shirts

Albany county got a bunch of night vision gear and Washington county a bunch of hunting rifles.

Wow - and you guys pay such high taxes, too.

Lyon County, NV - where I'm looking to move back to (um...maybe not, yikes) got a laser module, a Mine resistant vehicle, and a global positioning system receiver, night vision sites, a utility truck, laser range finders, a rescue and transport system, and a bunch of misc goodies like camoflauge clothes - winter and summer.

And this one puts me in the RCA dog head crank: PRISON WORN STUN DEVICE PRESET REMOTE CONTROL ----WTF?

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ThomM

10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Wow - and you guys pay such high taxes, too.

Lyon County, NV - where I'm looking to move back to (um...maybe not, yikes) got a laser module, a Mine resistant vehicle, and a global positioning system receiver, night vision sites, a utility truck, laser range finders, a rescue and transport system, and a bunch of misc goodies like camoflauge clothes - winter and summer.

And this one puts me in the RCA dog head crank: PRISON WORN STUN DEVICE PRESET REMOTE CONTROL ----WTF?

I know you would think we would get better stuff

By the way since our current governor has been bragging about lowering school and property taxes, mine went up 600 combined.

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seasoned

10 years ago

The article contains a couple of BLATENT LIES, which it, ironically, DOES indicate are blatent lies!

First of all, the person DID do a hit and run! it may be called different things in different states but it ALWAYS means that you hit someone or something, and left the scene. He DID, so he DID! The article says "ALLEGEDLY" like he didn't. It implies that a biological injury is needed for the offense. It ISN'T!

THEN, it says that "He had consumed no alcohol or illegal substances". Well, THAT is actually a lie on its face, since he overdosed, which is not legal, but the law really doesn't have to do with alcohol or "illegal substances". They even generally name it to make the idea CLEAR! The idea is the INFLUENCE! The article ITSELF says: "it seems that his decision-making abilities may have been affected by his legally-prescribed medication used to treat his bipolar disorder."

Although the rest sounds unforgivable and just BAD, I can see how being in a manic spell could make him a danger and annoy the cops. And the article CLEARLY implies that he WAS in a manic spell.

Frankly, I don't trust sites like this, and they have constantly said they would prevent what is NOW the future, from happening, while crying wolf and serving to hide VALID problems by wasting peoples time looking at the non existent problems. They may EVEN make leones problem worse, by annoying the cops more and causing them to even over react here.

Steve

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SteveJohnson

10 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

The article contains a couple of BLATENT LIES, which it, ironically, DOES indicate are blatent lies!

First of all, the person DID do a hit and run! it may be called different things in different states but it ALWAYS means that you hit someone or something, and left the scene. He DID, so he DID! The article says "ALLEGEDLY" like he didn't. It implies that a biological injury is needed for the offense. It ISN'T!

THEN, it says that "He had consumed no alcohol or illegal substances". Well, THAT is actually a lie on its face, since he overdosed, which is not legal, but the law really doesn't have to do with alcohol or "illegal substances". They even generally name it to make the idea CLEAR! The idea is the INFLUENCE! The article ITSELF says: "it seems that his decision-making abilities may have been affected by his legally-prescribed medication used to treat his bipolar disorder."

Although the rest sounds unforgivable and just BAD, I can see how being in a manic spell could make him a danger and annoy the cops. And the article CLEARLY implies that he WAS in a manic spell.

Frankly, I don't trust sites like this, and they have constantly said they would prevent what is NOW the future, from happening, while crying wolf and serving to hide VALID problems by wasting peoples time looking at the non existent problems. They may EVEN make leones problem worse, by annoying the cops more and causing them to even over react here.

Steve

Steve, no one disputes the danger of driving while impaired, or that he drove away from accident (which he may or may not have known he was in, who knows). The problem is the treatment he received at the hands of law enforcement 'professionals' and the subsequent travesty of justice.

We cannot afford to have LEOs who 'overreact' or who act out of annoyance or emotion. They're to do a job, and to do it with the minimum level of force necessary to get it done.

And last but not least, it was most emphatically NOT 'a blatant lie' that he had consumed no alcohol or illegal drugs. He did not.

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seasoned

10 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

Steve, no one disputes the danger of driving while impaired, or that he drove away from accident (which he may or may not have known he was in, who knows). The problem is the treatment he received at the hands of law enforcement 'professionals' and the subsequent travesty of justice.

We cannot afford to have LEOs who 'overreact' or who act out of annoyance or emotion. They're to do a job, and to do it with the minimum level of force necessary to get it done.

I certainly don't want to have ANY level of government overreact, harass. etc.... But I hate it when people twist stories, etc.... to make it look likethings are worse than they are. It desensitizes people.

And last but not least, it was most emphatically NOT 'a blatant lie' that he had consumed no alcohol or illegal drugs. He did not.

The drugs WERE illegal! It was an overdose of a controlled substance. TECHNICALLY, the SAME applies with ALCOHOL! They have a "legal limit". Go OVER the DOSE to get to the point below that, and you are THEN convicted of BEING OVER THE LIMIT! But STILL, there is the bit about INFLUENCE!

Steve

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Mikaedi

10 years ago

It happens! when I was a lot younger I had a run-in with the police and one of them punched me in the face, he broke/sprained his wrist and I was charged with assault on police..

The funny side to this was the medical report of the cops injury was accidently sent to my lawyer..he was in court giving evidence his hand in a plaster-caste..
(the police report stated..the office touched defendant on face)

The police given a reprimand by the judge.

The case was thrown out..

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Ooh, I see the post I was responding to above got deleted.

Well done, mods.

Update: I see Suzanne got in before me and reported him. Well done Suzanne and the mods.

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donsiemen

10 years ago

lol, very funny in my country you can do that and get away with it without going to the precint..
haha you know what i mean

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HeySal

9 years ago

So I am not the only one HN pm'd? He wasn't really rude in the ones he sent me - he was just trying to figure out why I said he couldn't know the languages he claims to know. Kept coming back with more "what ifs". Then he tried to tell me that he knew 80 written and I lost it and called him a few names and laughed at him. Told him to go on and keep insisting and looking like a total fool to anyone who knew anything beyond high school grammar about the subject. It was okay because people already were taking him as a bit of a joke. He took a fast hike after my last answer to him.

Strangely ---- I believe that I know that troll from another name in here before. Something about the structure of his sentences and the way he used his words......I can't put my finger on who it was, but I definitely don't believe this was his first time or name in this forum.

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sbucciarel

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Originally Posted by HeySal

So I am not the only one HN pm'd? He wasn't really rude in the ones he sent me - he was just trying to figure out why I said he couldn't know the languages he claims to know. Kept coming back with more "what ifs". Then he tried to tell me that he knew 80 written and I lost it and called him a few names and laughed at him. Told him to go on and keep insisting and looking like a total fool to anyone who knew anything beyond high school grammar about the subject. It was okay because people already were taking him as a bit of a joke. He took a fast hike after my last answer to him.

Strangely ---- I believe that I know that troll from another name in here before. Something about the structure of his sentences and the way he used his words......I can't put my finger on who it was, but I definitely don't believe this was his first time or name in this forum.

He pm'd me some time ago to bash Alexa... just out of the blue. He had links and references and what not and I knew instantly that he was a troll from the WFSucks page. He's been here under other names that were also banned. He's just a troll. Nothing more.

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Mikaedi

9 years ago

Thanks guys/gals, all this sort of thing is just totally knew to me..I wouldn't know a troll if it bit me on the nose. though I have read the WF sucks page and wasn't all that impressed.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by frankhill

How does this happen? So many people could have helped this guy but were afraid of or complicit with the PA State Police.

Man charged with breaking a trooper's fist with his face | Police State USA

It reminds me of pro football hall of famer Sam Huff saying he hit hall of famer Jim Brown so hard he broke his own face mask and jaw.

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