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Actually Michael, I put in a support ticket to the help desk asking Allen
to consider putting the rule back in.

I know I'm just a nobody around here, which I clearly pointed out in my
plea to the boss, but I figured I had nothing to lose by asking.

I'm not saying the decision was made based on my support ticket, and
for all I know, others may have complained as well, and for all we know
Allen may have been ready to do this anyway, but I figured if I just shut
my mouth and said nothing, then I'd never know.

Now maybe we can fight about things like "what the best marketing methods
are and why article marketing sucks" or whatever.

Sal, while you may not agree with me on this (certainly your right) Allen
does, and that's all that matters.

When people get into political and religious debates it gets ugly because
those are, unfortunately, the things we are most passionate about. I
personally don't have a problem discussing these things, but as Allen as
said before, this isn't the place for it.

And I agree. I have seen some very ugly things said from one person to
another here that wouldn't have been said if these topics were simply
forbidden at the start.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents on the matter and like I said, the
boss agrees.

Ultimately, that's all that matters.

Steven -

I thought perhaps Allen removed it due to the election year - and I fully expected it to get back to "normal" once the politics settled down.

Easier to just let it be a political free for all rather than have to police it constantly during that time.

NOW - it's up to us (the people that use this section frequently) to use the report button instead of picking arguments with those who break the rules.
And to totally ignore those posting meaningless "pap".

kay

Sal -

Other than Steve submitting a support ticket (because he was probably sick of all the bickering, like many others probably are/were), I haven't read of any posts of anyone running back to Allen to try and get anything banned.

Who are you talking about???

Sal, this didn't have anything to do with people having heated
discussions over politics. I have no problem with that.

It's how it became personal and how some people were outright rude
and nasty to others simply because of their political views.

I can tell you for certain that relationships were seriously damaged
because of what went on in here and that is why I felt it needed to
stop, not because of the politics.

Truth is, I could give a rat's behind about politics or the discussion of it.
I find it dull and boring.

What I can't sit back and watch is people who were once friends calling
each other the most vile names you can possibly think of.

That's when, IMHO, it has to stop.

I appreciate your not agreeing with this view, or for that matter, even
thinking less of me because of it.

That, I can handle.

Steven, if you are trying to say you don't care, then you should have said I could not give a rat's behind. Cause the way you said it means you care enough to give a rat's behind.

Yeh that's a pet peeve of mine when ppl say I could care less when they mean to say I could not care less.


I was also very surprised there was no political or religious talk rule while the election was going on. That's when it got really heated, some ppl got downright rude and I wish the rule was in place then and very surprised it wasn't.

If you notice a few people who were constantly making threads during election time are not in the OT anymore since the election is over. Hmmm

Valerie,

That Hmmm sounds like you are very suspicious. It was very apparent to me also that many were here only for the political threads, and with a high agenda. But Steven really does care - he cares a lot about all of us. Not quite sure where he got that rat's ass to give, though.

Debates on politics and religion is not the focus of this forum. It's about marketing and making lots of money - which is why I and over 106,000 others are members of this forum in the first place. I did not join to have debates about the end of the world, conspiracy theories, whether or not President-elect Obama is an alien, the collapse of the global financial system, or the reptilian ancestory of world leaders. I could give a rat's behind (oops, sorry Valerie) about such trivial parlor discussions, and only detracts from what is dear to my heart - making money.

What I learned here is that if you want to get rich, you need to walk and talk like the rich people do. So, if you want to get rich like Steven, you should give a rat's ass too. Have you ever seen how Steven walks? Me neither, but I'm sure we all could learn from that. (Seriously, thanks a lot Steven for your dedication and example)

I think we are missing the point about when new members join and see this kind of unbecoming behavior they have a perception this is a rowdy bunch (which we can be) and they lose the vision of what this forum is all about. As we say in marketing "perception is reality". Those of us who have been around here awhile can see through most of this bs, but newer members may become prematurely disillusioned by seeing this type of behavior and leave without ever having seen the potential they can realize by dining with the masters of marketing and success.

Coming here is quite like dining at a 5 star restaurant. We have good food, good company, and good conversation. Success, wealth, and intellectual stimulation is all here. And for desert, we have - the OT. Too many believe the OT is the main course. You are missing so much. But if you like to brawl, go to the tavern down the street and take a good look inside a rat's behind. Then tell me what the future holds.

That's just my 2 cents - a humble, capitalistic, decadent fat ass opinion formed by fine dining with the masters of the Warrior Forum. Never played poker myself, but I see what's in the cards.

You started this whole thing by saying "Hmmm", and making fun of Steven's rat.


And I quote ...

Valerie was just making fun of my grammar, which by the way, I did on
purpose. I sometimes enjoy being grammatical incorrect since I'm spending
most of my time writing and being so "correct."

It's my way of loosening up.

Wait until you see me bring out the trucker talk

That's okay Val. I don't got no time to get upset over no dumb stuff.

You know what Kim, I agree.

Why don't we all report it and have it removed?

I have no problem with it. I'm just happy the fighting has stopped.