Busted With Fake Screen-Shots

14 years ago

Case by case thing. It's always some ban and an immediate closure of the offer. Usually just a permanent ban, but there have been instances where the intent wasn't to defraud. (I know. That's hard to believe, but I've seen it.)

One of the funniest arguments I've ever gotten from someone who used a doctored screenshot has actually been used a bunch of times: "I had someone else write the copy and they faked the screenshot."

What? You used an income screenshot you didn't provide your copywriter/designer? You put your name behind something you KNEW wasn't authentic?

Buh-bye.

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salegurus

14 years ago

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Thank you for clarifying that for me...

I will go back and have a second look.

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Thank you for clarifying that for me...

I will go back and have a second look.

Thanks for the reminder on that one. Was discussing it with someone and it got delayed longer than it should.

He's gone.

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KimW

14 years ago

I remember several threads about "how-to" after someone got caught doing a WSO with faked shots.

Greed often blinds good judgement and morals.

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14 years ago

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Kay King 14 years ago

Greed often blinds good judgement and morals.

Kim - I think greed often REVEALS the lack of good judgment and morals.
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- KimW 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kay King
  
  Kim - I think greed often REVEALS the lack of good judgment and morals.
  
  That can be true too,Kay.
  
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yukon

Banned 14 years ago

I always find it funny that people are so gullible by any income claim.

Just because Joe Blow earned a hypothetical X amount of money doesn't mean anyone else will. Save the "Your mileage may vary, speeches for someone else".

I've seen forum members demand screenshots otherwise they didn't believe the income claim, LMAO, what are these people smoking?

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KimW

14 years ago

Come on Yukon, I have a screenshot that shows I made 30 million just wile typing this response to you! Of course you can't buy now yet, wait till I post it as a dimesale WSO!

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blackjack

14 years ago

Over the last 4/5 weeks, I have found atleast 3 WSO sellers with fake earning screenshots.

What happen to those WSOs? Nothing but I got banned to pointing this in WSO thread. Sellers managed to delete the screenshots and my post got deleted because I posted the screenshots with questions? For example one screenshot had "clickbank" word underlined which means the person was using Word document.

If you ban these sellers they will create another account.

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KimW

14 years ago

Originally Posted by blackjack

Over the last 4/5 weeks, I have found atleast 3 WSO sellers with fake earning screenshots.

What happen to those WSOs? Nothing but I got banned to pointing this in WSO thread. Sellers managed to delete the screenshots and my post got deleted because I posted the screenshots with questions? For example one screenshot had "clickbank" word underlined which means the person was using Word document.

If you ban these sellers they will create another account.

I'm pretty sure IPs are logged.
In the situation you described the best thing to do is submit the information to the helpdesk,along with a screenshot and let them check it out. If they agree with you then the seller will liekly be penalized in some manner.if they don't,nothing will happen to the seller,and nothing will happen to you.
But one thing that the forum doesn't allow, is if you have issues with someone, take it up in private,and osting in a thread is not private.
Hope this helps .

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salegurus

14 years ago

Originally Posted by blackjack

Over the last 4/5 weeks, I have found atleast 3 WSO sellers with fake earning screenshots.

What happen to those WSOs? Nothing but I got banned to pointing this in WSO thread. Sellers managed to delete the screenshots and my post got deleted because I posted the screenshots with questions? For example one screenshot had "clickbank" word underlined which means the person was using Word document.

If you ban these sellers they will create another account.

I think the best thing to do will be to gather all the evidence and let the Mods know. So far i have seen swift action taken against sellers who have been caught using fake screenshots.

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Jerry McGough 14 years ago

Personally, as soon as I see screenshots I see little red flags.....especially if there's dollar signs.
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lgibbon

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by salegurus

Hi

I was wondering, if you are busted with fake/doctored screenshots
in your WSO does that constitute a lifetime ban from WF?

PS. No not me...

Cheers

Should be the same for people using fake ID's too.
There are quite a few of those too.

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KimW 14 years ago

Originally Posted by lgibbon

Should be the same for people using fake ID's too.
There are quite a few of those too.

I wouldn't be surprised,but I thought the Mods did have things in place to deal with those?
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  I wouldn't be surprised,but I thought the Mods did have things in place to deal with those?
  
  I don't think they have yet.
  
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sloanjim

14 years ago

treat all claims as B*S* until proved otherwise. Sad but the way it's gone.

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aZooZa

14 years ago

It must be a nightmare to moderate. IPs mean nothing when these people have a load of proxies etc.

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blackjack

14 years ago

Originally Posted by aZooZa

It must be a nightmare to moderate. IPs mean nothing when these people have a load of proxies etc.

It simple if MODs want to do anything about these things.

1. No income claims or screenshots allowed in any WSO
2. To post WSO, account must be 6 month old with atleast 50 posts in WAR room.

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aZooZa

14 years ago

Originally Posted by blackjack

It simple if MODs want to do anything about these things.

1. No income claims or screenshots allowed in any WSO
2. To post WSO, account must be 6 month old with atleast 50 posts in WAR room.

I'm sure that won't fly. Too Draconian, don't you think?

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

Originally Posted by blackjack

It simple if MODs want to do anything about these things.

1. No income claims or screenshots allowed in any WSO
2. To post WSO, account must be 6 month old with atleast 50 posts in WAR room.

The first is something I strongly support. The moderators don't make policy, though.

The second would be partly okay and partly a nightmare. The membership duration thing would sort of work, but it would drive people to buying "aged" accounts. 6 months after putting that into effect, there'd be a flood of fraud, driven by a market in custom "WSO-ready" usernames.

Requiring 50 posts in the War Room would just push people toward posting garbage there.

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

For example one screenshot had "clickbank" word underlined which means the person was using Word document.

If it's the one I saw, I closed that offer. He wasn't using Word, by the way. Different "technique" for editing the screenshot, but the same result: Seller gone.

If you got banned, it wasn't for pointing that out.

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