Royal prank victim found dead

13 years ago

People are crushing the DJs on social media, but if there was no tabloid culture (which most people hate) she would still be alive today.

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Kay King 13 years ago

Actions have consequences. I, for one, am sick of people in and out of the media who will do anything to get attention and never think of others they may be hurting in the process.

We don't know if this was a cause/effect but at this point it seems to be the case.

The DJs are currently off the air - which is fine with me.
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HeySal

13 years ago

If it was suicide, I'm wondering why they are calling it "mysterious".

I wonder what they said on the call that was that extremely traumatic. They said themselves that they never expected to be connected.

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KimW

13 years ago

Sal, I agree. I have heard a lot about "the call", but have not heard any of it.

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jimbo13 13 years ago

Sad she died but I think it was nothing to do with this and the sanctimonious rubbish on British Newspapers waffling on about blood on their hands and cruel hoax is hypocritical to say the least.

Kate goes to hospital.

Couple of Aussie DJs decide to call the hospital and see how she is doing as a joke.

They had no idea they would be put through. Nothing cruel about it.

This is the transcript.

Young female Aussie DJ who doesn't mention she is the Queen at all to the receptionist: 'Oh hello there, could I please speak to Kate, my granddaughter?'

Receptionist who assumed it was the Queen: 'Oh yes, just hold on Ma'am'

That was it. She then transferred the caller to the Nurses on the ward to deal with.

Nurses then gave some info on Kate.

So the DJs are now getting vile hate messages and have been told not to come into work, maybe ever again. Ludicrous.

The receptionist has two children,it's nearly Xmas, today is Friday and this was old news on Wednesday.

Still sad that she died but to blame it on the DJs as the British Press is doing is stretching it a bit far in my opinion.

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- Thomas 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jimbo13
  
  ...but to blame it on the DJs as the British Press is doing is stretching it a bit far in my opinion.
  
  Johnny Foreigner must be trashed at every opportunity. Dems da rules!
  
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- Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jimbo13
  
  That was it. She then transferred the caller to the Nurses on the ward to deal with.
  
  Exactly so.
  
  As Dan explains, above, the nurse who has died in what some parts of the media are referring to as "mysterious circumstances" (though presumably suicide?) was the one who simply put the call through, not the one who inadvertently (though perhaps understandably?) breached medical confidentiality by giving out information about Kate's progress.
  
  Originally Posted by jimbo13
  
  Still sad that she died but to blame it on the DJs as the British Press is doing is stretching it a bit far in my opinion.
  
  I haven't actually seen a newspaper, since then, but I completely agree.
  
  "Media/press responsibility" is in the air, at the moment, with the Leveson Report so prominently in the news.
  
  I suspect this story may have a long way to run, too. With absolutely no disrespect at all to the poor nurse who died, or to her family, I'm not sure that's necessarily a good thing.
  
  She had two children, as well.
  
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  derekwong28 13 years ago
  
  Thiswas the only part that the nurse who committed suicide played.
  
  Transcript: Australian DJs prank call London hospital to get details about pregnant Kate Middleton's condition - NY Daily News
  
  MEL GREIG: Oh hello there, could I please speak to Kate please, my granddaughter?
  
  NURSE: Oh yes, just hold on ma'am.
  
  GREIG: Thank you.
  
  If this is enough to drive people to suicide, then I am sure a lot of the stuff that is posted here on the Warrior Forum will do so as well.
  
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Don Schenk

13 years ago

I know several families who have had a family member commit suicide. What that action does to the family is dreadful.

What we don't know is the mental condition of the nurse prior to the prank call. Was she bi-polar, or unipolar? What was going on in her life? She may have already been contemplating suicide, and she let this drive her over the edge.

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whateverpedia

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Don Schenk

I know several families who have had a family member commit suicide. What that action does to the family is dreadful.

What we don't know is the mental condition of the nurse prior to the prank call. Was she bi-polar, or unipolar? What was going on in her life? She may have already been contemplating suicide, and she let this drive her over the edge.

:-( Don

That's pretty much what I said on the other thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...aste-life.html

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candoit2 13 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

That's pretty much what I said on the other thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...aste-life.html

This thread was created first, if that is what you were getting at.
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- whateverpedia 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by AaronJones
  
  This thread was created first, if that is what you were getting at.
  
  No. Not at all.
  
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Paul Silver

13 years ago

The media is really reaching with this one...

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RyanEagle

13 years ago

This is all really unfortunate. And knowing tabloid culture, I'm sure some BS stories about the royal family sending out a hit on the nurse will crop up too.

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13 years ago

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whateverpedia

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ernie Lo

The people who are blaming the radio hosts are brain dead morons.

Yes the prank was kinda stupid but jesus for starters, radio isnt real folks! The hosts play an acting role in everything they do. The producers set out their schedule for them, and now they are taking the heat when it's not even their fault.

Secondly to blame them for someone elses decisions to kill themselves is not fair. The lady was unstable and who knows what she was going through in her life....

These are the same types of morons who think TV shows are real....or that music videos are real....

Arghhhh!

As yet we still don't know what sort of crap she got from the hospital management, so we can't say what drove her to do what she did.

The radio station in question has a long history of humiliating people in the chase for ratings.

I agree the presenters were only acting within the "rules" set down by its management. They are convenient scapegoats and the real culprits (management of the station AND the hospital) will get off scott free.

And what hypocrisy from the British press.

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derekwong28

13 years ago

There are so many unanswered questions that the authorities owes the public an explanation. What was her cause of death and how certain was that caused by suicide. The hospital has denied that any action or negative feed backs were given to the nurses involved. However, we don't whether she was subjected to ridicule by other colleagues and friends.

There is almost never a single reason behind a suicide. It is possible that this joke tripped her over but there could be more underlying causes. The British press are definitely hypocrites. A lot of the stuff they print could have driven thousands to suicide.

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HeySal

13 years ago

She definitely wasn't playing with a full deck if this made her kill herself. The media is not at fault. It's not like they told her that her kids had died or something overly traumatic. Anything for a story, I guess.

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Originally Posted by whateverpedia

As yet we still don't know what sort of crap she got from the hospital management, so we can't say what drove her to do what she did.

This.

Originally Posted by HeySal

She definitely wasn't playing with a full deck if this made her kill herself.

And this.

These situations are common. (Prank calls, not deaths!).

In 1995 the Queen spent over 15 minutes talking to a man she thought was the prime minister of Canada (it was actually Pierre Brassard, a Canadian radio presenter and impressionist). In 1998, Prime Minister Tony Blair took a call from a man claiming to be William Hague, leader of the Opposition (he knew immediately that it was a hoax call, because the caller - actually impressionist John Culshaw - called him "Tony" rather than "Prime Minister" - a sensible but actually mistaken guess.) The former Foreign Secretary of State Margaret Beckett thought she was taking a call from then-Chancellor Gordon Brown in 2006, but it was actually impressionist Rory Bremner. And how many hundreds more such calls from "the media"/"journalists"/"broadcasters" go unreported?
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- Kay King 13 years ago
  
  The pranks are common. What is not common perhaps, is someone with a culture/mindset of shame (undeserved) they apply to themselves after such a prank.
  
  People react to such incidents based on their own societal/cultural belief system. If we don't understand the person, we can't judge their actions.
  
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  Superior Content Creation 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kay King
  
  culture/mindset of shame
  
  It seems to me the intercultural aspect of this case is being far underplayed. I don't know a lot about Indian culture and their concepts of royalty - not to mention concepts of "face" - but I'm assuming that may have somehow played a role in this; from what I've read this possibility has been largely avoided.
  
  That said, I haven't read much on it since it first happened, so perhaps that elephant in the room has revealed itself by now?
  
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Ernie Lo

13 years ago

Well Australia has now banned radios from doing prank calls.

Gotta love the nanny state.

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Kay King 13 years ago

There's no real upside to a prank call like this one - except someone having a moment's giggle at the expense of someone else. Not a big loss.
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whateverpedia 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ernie Lo

Well Australia has now banned radios from doing prank calls.

Gotta love the nanny state.

Wrong. The radio network has banned prank calls on its outlets. Big difference.
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- Ernie Lo 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by whateverpedia
  
  Wrong. The radio network has banned prank calls on its outlets. Big difference.
  
  Sorry smarty pants :p
  
  Might have to search for that article I saw....I coulda sworn....oh well doesnt matter.
  
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Auctiondebteliminator

13 years ago

Makes me wonder what pressure she was under by the hospital staff....

I don't blame the pranksters.

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Greg71

13 years ago

They appear to be the straw that broke the camel's back.

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JoeUK

13 years ago

'Suicided' IMO. Yet another suspect death surrounding the Windsors, don't make fun of the Royals...

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

BBC News - Kate hoax nurse was found hanged
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sloanjim

13 years ago

No Sal..it was the same people behind JFK/ Elvis and Area 51.

Maybe it was the Queens secret hit sqaud...The ones that saw off Diana and dodi....Careful what you say here they might be after us now?

Always looking for the "conspiracy".......strange. LOL Takes all sorts I guess?

If it was suicide, I'm wondering why they are calling it "mysterious".

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sloanjim

13 years ago

Sure they had nothing to do with the whole thng at all..... 100% innocent. In fact, they should be compensated and given an O.B.E. ?

The people who are blaming the radio hosts are brain dead morons.

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John Romaine

13 years ago

I haven't listened to commercial radio in over 10 years. This is why.

It's total garbage.

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derekwong28

13 years ago

Apparently, she hanged herself and left a suicide note. The note did not mention anything about the prank call. It is looking increasingly likely that the prank has little if anything to do with it.

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

It is looking increasingly likely that the prank has little if anything to do with it.

This is also very much my impression, from the UK news sources, today. Just possibly "the straw that broke the camel's back", not much more than that, it seems?
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