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I am calling out Adam . We have been struggling in the offline game for 9 months. Some good months and many not so good months. Not blowing smoke here. Just the facts. We are in the same boat. I know that now since we have some repeat and referrals we can average 4-5k a month. This challenge is so each of us will have a sense of accountability. Nothing sucks worse that sitting around Thursday afternoon with no new prospects and wondering where your week went. The winner of our October challenge will receive $100 from the loser. We will be posting a few times a week to keep you updated on our progress. I am going to punish Adam this month like Alabama did Saturday night against them Gators!


Adam, if you are man enough to accept the challenge post on this thread and say "let's do it!"
#adam #calling #dukes
  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    John Durham has been sent an invitation to join in on the challenge as well. I know many doubters on this forum that would love to see John step up to the plate and accept the challenge. $100 on the line if he thinks he can beat me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    As long as it brings drama and discussion, I love the idea
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    To be declared a winner, you must bring in atleast 3k in October. I brought in 1600 last month. Hard to declare anyone a winner with those kind of numbers. The winner must have atleast 3k plus to get the $100. If neither of us gets to 3k, both have to send $100 to the charity the other one picks out. We could up the ante if John Durham decided to put his allowance where his mouth is? I know this southern boy could take both of yall's money. haha
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    The discussion and dram will be good with me and Adam. Much better if Mr. John Durham(aka PhonePro dude) joins in on the challenge. I have been hit up by about a dozen people in the past month questioning John's claims. Everyone just wants to see what he can do today. I think it would be good for the whole forum if Mr. John Durham stepped up to the plate and accepted my challenge.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielkanuck
    I'm sitting ring side for this challenge. I got popcorn too. Lol...
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    Country boy can survive. Smart $$$$ is on the good ole boy from Alabama.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Lol... The journey of Chris and Adam... Surely has been an awesome one to witness. This is like the clash of the titans here. Its so awesome to see the bonds that form through working along side each other, even if its online.

    Dont know where to put my money, they both are contenders to be reckoned with.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    Join in on the fun Mr. Durham

    Gonna be a fun month to watch! Time to pick up some $ off the streets. Sent out a few monthly invoices this morning. Already started prospecting for new business. Time to get what is mine.


    Good luck in October Adam!
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  • As long as Adam Dukes is not wearing "Daisy Dukes" - I'll be ringside too...

    (no ear biting! :rolleyes
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Surran
    Adam, I'm sweating you on this one, buddy. You better take rolltide down!

    Sorry rolltide, I gotta go with the home team.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    I cant step up right now Chris, too much on my plate to take on any new challenges... but will be watching intensely... besides you aint suppose to wanna woop your teacher man! Lol. The adrenaline in here!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lori Kelly
    What a great idea. Nothing like a good, clean competition. I might have to root for Adam, I'm from Vegas. (Sorry Chris) Keep us posted.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    I dont know, them Bammy boys are used to throwing bails of hay bigger than adukes... lol JK (fueling the fire).
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    NO Excuses! 5k or bust in October!
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by rolltide View Post

      NO Excuses! 5k or bust in October!
      5k is my goal on a BAD week. lol

      This is what happens when you challenge Mr. Myagi!



      Originally Posted by rolltide View Post

      The discussion and dram will be good with me and Adam. Much better if Mr. John Durham(aka PhonePro dude) joins in on the challenge. I have been hit up by about a dozen people in the past month questioning John's claims. Everyone just wants to see what he can do today. I think it would be good for the whole forum if Mr. John Durham stepped up to the plate and accepted my challenge.
      I have had no less than 50 telemarketers who have worked for me over the years step up and say "We wanna challenge you". I have never been moved by it. Whether I can do it or not has nothing to do with whether you can. I didnt hire them so I could prove to them that I could do the job.

      If you want to know my track record , look up my old bosses (I have listed several here on the wf). If you want to know what I can do now... Look at my forum, the evidence suggests that Im still in the top 10 percentile at everything I do... including building forums.

      Its an attitude. It comes across in whatever you do, and "telemarketing" is a great way to develop it. Even challenges, like you are making with Adukes....lots of those through the years. Confidence builds where you feel confident taking on anything, including the MUSIC business for me...

      Moving on...

      You wanna know if I can sell overseas look up one of the companies I have worked with and ask them, their names are in posts all over the place... you will find that everything I have claimed can be validated with more than just a copy of a pay pal statement. (In fact here are some, Blonder, Brewster, Wallpaper Depot...Blue Mountain).

      If you want to know what I "do", look up the people who bought the telemarketing report 3 and see how many people already have clients. I can do everything I teach, 5 times better than you see anyone else doing it, but one can only spread oneself so thin....

      Much love to you young padawan.

      Have fun you two. I am chasing different ideals these days... Have already proved Im a champion 100 times.

      Now I help others, and I continue to get paid for it, because my school teaches the best kung fu!

      And my students (Hello?) Kick more ass than anyone elses!

      Check out one of them in my sig BTW...no optin...no cost. No self promotion. This is telephone Kung Fu right here. Maybe you should be taking a spot in my sig instead of calling me out. I promote my students, not spar with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Ps. My brother is staying over, because he has business here... He wants to cold call all the major car dealerships here, because he does sales training seminars...

    Anyway, I was reading this to him and he wants to join.

    He said "Tell them my goal is 5k today", and I said "The WF dont work like that, you have to contribute for yourself...", so I think he may join tonight...lol

    He just called me, after being out cold calling for only an hour and a half and said he has already booked $3200 at his first call.

    Dude has a great system for closing people on sales training seminars. He sells sales training to pro salesman, if that means anything, and gets 350 per attendee per day. Usually a class has 10 -20 people and he does a couple or a few classes per week. Then cold calls new clients for the rest of the week. He actually has a residual because many lots have him now on a regular schedule to come train once per month or whatever...

    Anyway, I tried to help my friend DW share his expertise here, but he wants to write a report and be done with it...doesnt want to participate in the forums.

    I think my bro has alot to share that would be useful here. Im hoping he gets involved and I know he will close 5k today. He closed $4800 last Thursday when he was in for a day.

    I'd like to see him become a warrior. He's a freekin awesome teacher... and although he trains new car salesman (top of the line mercedes dealerships...), every two minutes something comes out of his mouth that is revolutionary for offline marketing PERIOD... So I would love to see him share on here.

    This is off topic, but when he just called me he said "Tell em I closed $3200 already", and I said "At the WF you have to tell them yourself, they dont respect people talking for other people...".

    So it would be cool for me if he joined. Hope to see him on tonight.

    BTW, he does have some experience working with me in internet marketing too... we had a little phone room together back in 2003 that did hundreds of thousands...

    Both of us came from the projects... cool huh. We were not statistically very likely to succeed at anything, but we both are top competitors in our fields. So is my other brother who is a one in a million success in MLM.

    Very cool.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Lol. Whats your number Dukes.

    Mike isnt like me, Im over this stuff... But he still enjoys the challenge games... He works alone so this will be good for him.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    Is your brother selling the same thing we are? I use to sell 300k motor homes. Can't compare that with offline. All that matter is the bottom line!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Chris,

      He doesnt sell websites, though it IS offline sales... just like construction leads. He books seminars, howbeit, new car sales training ones.

      I agree, its not the same competition. Im just proud of him thats all...I have a had a big hand in training him through the years.

      Yesterday he booked about 12 people at $350 per head - "Booked" means, they paid money... Thats about an average day for him out in the field.

      Sorry didnt mean to interrupt the thread here, but it appears it happened anyway...

      Heard Adukes say "People dont say thank you enough".

      People also dont say "Im proud of you" enough!

      So I guess this was my way of saying that about my bro.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    I was just messing w/ ya John. Big $$$ in car sales training. Spent a few years in that industry myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author bailbondsguys
    Is there any spread associated with the betting that will take place on this competition?
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    • Profile picture of the author ADukes81
      Originally Posted by bailbondsguys View Post

      Is there any spread associated with the betting that will take place on this competition?
      Yea, Chris is a huge underdog and last I looked, at the Hilton sportbook, he was +450.

      I am sure the line has moved from there though.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    Ask your boys from Michigan State what happens when you challenge boys from Alabama??? You get hurt!


    Smart $$$$ is on Alabama boy getting er dun!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Chris has an ace up his sleeve this month, I can feel it, he's too sure that its in the bag. JK Rolltide! But kinda not...

    I dont even know what to think about James Hickey, he's on another planet with this stuff... Would love to get in his brain for a day!
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    UPDATE-

    As you know, I am a good ole boy that tells it like it is. I will be honest with you, I brought in $0 from my offline marketing business last week. I do have a couple residuals that should be in this week plus I think atleast 1 new gig. The pipeline of prospects is stacking up so I think a few will come through.


    I WILL MAKE A MINIMUM OF 3K IN OCTOBER! THAT IS A GUARANTEE!

    I will continue to keep everyone posted on my progress.
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  • Profile picture of the author ADukes81
    UPDATE -

    In being 100% transparent (seems it's hard to find on this site) I only pulled in $260 last week and that was all residuals. No new customers. That is not going to cut it and I am sick of "balling on a budget".

    No bets were made at the sportsbook this weekend because of that.

    Chris is a diehard Bama fan and Bama plays LSU (the 2 best teams in college football, besides Michigan) and we have never met, Chris and I, but we would like to watch it together, either here in Vegas or in Tuscaloosa. This is our month that we put this challenge out there to keep us on our toes and to, hopefully, motivate some other peeps on here.

    It's weird, being a business owner, I like Mondays mores than Fridays now. Never in a million years would I thought I have ever said that.

    Everyone let's make it the best week ever. Until next week, when we double our revenue from this week.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
      Originally Posted by rolltide View Post

      I will be honest with you, I brought in $0 from my offline marketing business last week.
      Originally Posted by ADukes81 View Post

      Until next week, when we double our revenue from this week.
      I think Rolltide has far greater ambitions than that.

      Dan
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by jimbo13 View Post

        I think Rolltide has far greater ambitions than that.

        Dan
        Ouch. How you guys get by like that...? Not being funny, but honestly, I dont have the luxury personally of weeks like that... Especially being that you are both highly trained hunters..., I would be pulling something out of my _______ quick. No offense intended.
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  • Profile picture of the author areevez
    LOL interesting thread here......I'm pulling for both of you guys!!! Who are you guys targeting for new recurring? What services? I might be biased but one of the quickest and easiest to land is really tattoo shops with sms. Skip all the long detailed steps and just walk in there, the owners are in the shops a lot. Just walk in there, get the owner and get straight to the point about why building an sms list should be mandatory for them to increase business! Most tattoo shop owners are super down to earth! Take it or leave it, just a quick word.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    John-I understand totally what you are saying and that is what I am working on. Luckily, I am pretty damn frugal so I always keep $$$ back for a rainy day. That being said, I have to make a minimum of 3k per month on a bad month. I still believe that is very possible this month. I will keep you posted on my real results. Didn't start this thread to impress anyone or blow smoke up anyones a$$ .
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by rolltide View Post

      John-I understand totally what you are saying and that is what I am working on. Luckily, I am pretty damn frugal so I always keep $$$ back for a rainy day. That being said, I have to make a minimum of 3k per month on a bad month. I still believe that is very possible this month. I will keep you posted on my real results. Didn't start this thread to impress anyone or blow smoke up anyones a$$ .

      I hear you, I didnt meet my goal until the second half of last month... Sometimes you win in the first quarter and sometimes you win in the last quarter, as long as you have control of the flow and you know how to average it out its all good.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    Cool..What are you selling these days John?
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Same thing as last year- Basic 5 page websites for $500-$1000 down and a small monthly rate... Just like the original telemarketing report, but Im about to get into something different (Much higher price tags, and using the directory model- An upscale Bower method).

    I will also take an appointment setting contract here or there if the price is right, and if I need it to balance the month out...have done a few of those this year.

    This year my income has been about 50% online and 50% offline, with a couple of other online projects beginning to produce income outside of TMF...

    Wont mention exact income figures but I will tell you that my fixed monthly bills are more than 5k per month, so that cant even be my MINIMUM income...

    SIGH... 2012 Will be The Year That John Durham is A Millionaire again!
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