PHP or C++ ???

shellydisuja · 05-03-2012, 03:03 AM

php is hypertext preprocessor language.it is a server side html embedded scripting language mainly build to t provides web developers with a full suite of tools for building dynamic websites whereas c++ is mainly used for buliding desktop applications.

Dead Body · 05-03-2012, 07:32 AM

There is not lot more difference in C++ and PHP both have almost same syntax... please try to learn programming not Programming Language.. If you learn C++ you just need to learn the sytax of PHP..

raferti · 10-16-2012, 08:59 PM

The fact that PHP is more popular, C + + is a great language, use what you like best !

seowonder56 · 10-17-2012, 01:52 AM

Both are totally different generally c++ and vc++ both are for the windows application development and php is for web development so i dont think its good to compare both of them

pipercraig · 10-18-2012, 06:26 AM

PHP focuses mainly on web and C++ is for desktop application so you decide what you want to do?

dutrowllc · 10-18-2012, 08:06 PM

You shouldn't program in C++ unless you are writing code for the Arduino or a laser guided missile.

You will spend a lot of your time debugging stupid stuff that you shouldn't have to think about in C++.

You are better off with Python and Javascript. PHP is ok, but the trend is moving away from that and more towards Python. You can program server-side in Javascript using NodeJS.

kazim · 10-18-2012, 08:31 PM

I know that c++ is such a language by which all types of works can be done. But PHP is more easy for web app.

Nicholasamarquez · 10-19-2012, 04:46 AM

PHP is probably the most popular programming language on the web. Used to improve the website. With PHP, you can do things like create username and password pages, check details of a form, create forums, photo galleries, polls, and more. If you come across a website that ends in PHP, then the author has written some programming code to encourage plain, old HTML.

nikomaster · 10-21-2012, 07:40 PM

There is a lot of confusion here. Both C++ and PHP are just programming languages. Both can be used to program everything on every operating system. C++ is Objected Oriented prograrmming language, strong-typed, this means you must declare any variable or object used by the program. PHP is also an objected oriented programming language but soft-typed it does not require variable declaration as with C/C++. As a matter fact PHP has the same structure as C++. In other words, PHP is sort of a clone of C.

Normally, the C/C++ language is compiled. These compilers are designed to generate machine code which instructions would be executed directly by the CPU. These type of programs are widely used to optimize time consuming tasks such as compressing data, device drivers, web servers, but not limited to just that. Therefore, programming on C++ requires certain skill because you have total control of the program memory and you have to check boundaries and memory addresses.

Is it possible creating web applications with C/C++?

Sure, it is possible just, think of this: the webserver where your page is hosted was probably programmed with C/C++.

On the other hand, PHP is commonly an interpreted language, this means, the PHP parser executes the script and translates it on to server commands, it does not generate machine code or executable file to run the program. For this the server must have installed the PHP extension to run PHP scripts. With PHP you do not have to worry about memory boundaries or heap management. However, PHP scripts are a slower than C/C++ compiled files because the server must interpret each code line of the script while the C compiled program is directly sent to the CPU.

Is it possible creating desktop applications with PHP?

YES. How? Well there are tools that compile the PHP script into machine code. As it should be tools capable of interpreting C++ code as a server side script. However, never heard of one so far.

So which is better? A: BOTH but depends the application

To create simple web applications such as shopping carts, content management systems, or simple database management, I would go for PHP. You only need a webhosting with PHP enabled to use it.

To create advanced optimized applications such a search engine (like Google), 3D rendering machine I would go for C++. They can run on servers if you have such privilege of installing on them.

Can I merge both?
Yes, you can write an extension for PHP with C++ to later use it into your PHP scripts.

So what to learn first?
I defnitely would go for C/C++ first. Once you have learned C/C++, PHP would be a piece of cake. Personal experience of this.

As a matter fact for your information the PHP library used to run PHP scripts was built with C.

I hope you this helps to give you the idea.

dexlink · 10-22-2012, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by strangerstudios

PHP is built specifically to serve HTML to a browser. It became popular because it worked very well, was easy to pickup, and had excellent documentation early on. It's a very "scrappy" language focused on getting things done.

While you could technically write a website in C++, it would be like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

To be asking this question, I'm assuming you are new to building websites.

If you want to build a general purpose website as fast as possible, I would recommend looking into a system like WordPress, a "Content Management System" which runs on top of PHP and makes building websites very easy. You can tweak the PHP yourself via plugins if you need to.

If you are gun hoe about making a "web app", I would look to learn PHP on a lower level or look into Ruby, Ruby on Rails, Python, etc.

If you are in a corporate environment, consider Java.

If you are familiar with Windows development and .NET, you can checkout C# and their web development tools which are related to C++.

Yes, I fully agree with you and thank you for your post.

rising_sun · 10-22-2012, 12:36 PM

Both are different similarity they are both object oriented ,
PHP is better for web development and c++ is better for device level programming.

mehdi7604 · 10-22-2012, 09:54 PM

C++,
i saw lots of responses like that :
PHP : Web apps
C++ : Desktop Apps

Yes you can use C++ to generate web pages, but why you want to make your life impossible, you have PHP and lots of frameworks ???

If you still want to use C++, and you worry about the design, use MVC, so you can focus on each part of your application.

muddywaters · 10-23-2012, 11:55 PM

Give PHP a shot, it should work for you and save you time.

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10-21-2012, 07:40 PM	#59
nikomaster The Unbreakable Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 91 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 7 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: PHP or C++ ??? There is a lot of confusion here. Both C++ and PHP are just programming languages. Both can be used to program everything on every operating system. C++ is Objected Oriented prograrmming language, strong-typed, this means you must declare any variable or object used by the program. PHP is also an objected oriented programming language but soft-typed it does not require variable declaration as with C/C++. As a matter fact PHP has the same structure as C++. In other words, PHP is sort of a clone of C. Normally, the C/C++ language is compiled. These compilers are designed to generate machine code which instructions would be executed directly by the CPU. These type of programs are widely used to optimize time consuming tasks such as compressing data, device drivers, web servers, but not limited to just that. Therefore, programming on C++ requires certain skill because you have total control of the program memory and you have to check boundaries and memory addresses. Is it possible creating web applications with C/C++? Sure, it is possible just, think of this: the webserver where your page is hosted was probably programmed with C/C++. On the other hand, PHP is commonly an interpreted language, this means, the PHP parser executes the script and translates it on to server commands, it does not generate machine code or executable file to run the program. For this the server must have installed the PHP extension to run PHP scripts. With PHP you do not have to worry about memory boundaries or heap management. However, PHP scripts are a slower than C/C++ compiled files because the server must interpret each code line of the script while the C compiled program is directly sent to the CPU. Is it possible creating desktop applications with PHP? YES. How? Well there are tools that compile the PHP script into machine code. As it should be tools capable of interpreting C++ code as a server side script. However, never heard of one so far. So which is better? A: BOTH but depends the application To create simple web applications such as shopping carts, content management systems, or simple database management, I would go for PHP. You only need a webhosting with PHP enabled to use it. To create advanced optimized applications such a search engine (like Google), 3D rendering machine I would go for C++. They can run on servers if you have such privilege of installing on them. Can I merge both? Yes, you can write an extension for PHP with C++ to later use it into your PHP scripts. So what to learn first? I defnitely would go for C/C++ first. Once you have learned C/C++, PHP would be a piece of cake. Personal experience of this. As a matter fact for your information the PHP library used to run PHP scripts was built with C. I hope you this helps to give you the idea.

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