As HTTPs effect on SEO and is it necessary content sites

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HTTP-protocol is widely used on the Internet to retrieve data from the websites. Messages sent via HTTP-protocol are regular texts, which makes them vulnerable. This should worry the administrators of the websites that store users' personal information such as credit card numbers, usernames, passwords, etc. A protected HTTPS protocol was developed to defend the websites against the attacks.


HTTPs protocol is essentially a conventional HTTP, but working through encrypted mechanisms such as SSL and TLS. But what if your site doesn't handle payments, banking or hosting? Should you bother to transition to HTTPs? The main argument, why many sites still have not switched to a secure protocol - "we are happy, we do not handle personal data." Let's review in detail how attackers make money from your sites and your users, and think how this may affect SEO.


We all know that there is a boom of mobile technologies and mobile internet. There is also a growing need for seamless access to Wi-Fi. The foundation of Maslow's pyramid was to "eat and sleep", now in the pyramid base is "battery level" and "the presence of wi-fi"

... Every self-respecting local business provides users with free Wi-Fi - a variety of cafes and restaurants, hotels and hostels, shops and shopping centers, all public places do that these days. You can trust the hotel, where you live, but you do not know its technical administrator and his relationship with his boss.

The time comes when someone asks your friends on your behalf through social networks to do something. Even if you haven't ever encountered this kind of requests, as you constantly use of leaky systems the probability of encountering this particular problem increases. HTTPs protocols on the other hand solve this problem.

Back to the original question, when we have just a content or an online store without a personal cabinet, the text is passed through a provider in the direct form, it does not cost anything to modify it, for example, by embedding a script or frame, adding additional functionality, such as a branded button (even from the competition).


Some also added the search box in the user's browser, beautifully embedding it in a website. When using Wi-Fi in the subway, you will definitely see advertising in some form and fashion, sometimes even from the very reputable sites that never placed advertising banners. Someone will think that Apple recommends a taxi service, that's very nice for the service, but not for Apple.


While reading another interesting article in the cafe, you need to be prepared that you will see the current promotions for coffee.



Leaflets on the tables are not enough, you need to show the information right there where you look. Sometimes this advertising covers the entire desired content.


Also, reading the SEO-articles in the hotel, you will definitely come across something that you want to do more to become more financially successful.


Many free Wi-Fi-points in your city are not quite designed to allow access to the Internet. These are special projects with its model of money making through advertising and banners. The page for advertisers honestly describes the objectives of the project - "an innovative platform of online advertising." You do not see banners on your site, because you go there from your desktop computer. You can test it and access it from other devices and providers. If you have a website at the hotel or pizzeria, then sure thing the greatest percentage of users comes from mobile devices, and for sure they use the free City Wi-Fi to find out your address or phone number, or to order. Even if you have a simple blog, the audience still reads it from their smart phone.

Finally something about SEO - how HTTPs can affect SEO?


It's not going to happen directly, but through behavioral factors of influence. The main factor is the dwell-time that the search engines use in various ranking and anti-spam algorithms.

Advertising impacts the dwell-time, which reduces, on one hand, the authority of the site and on the other the behavioral factors. Both of which are bad for SEO. The larger the percentage of the audience that you use free Wi-Fi, the worse the impact to your unprotected HTTP-site. Advertising via Wi-Fi is only starting to develop, it is not yet used by all.

Basically, the problem is with smart phones. We do not see it, because it does not track the position and visibility of the websites in the mobile phones search (yet that's commonly available tools).

But as soon as we will have metrics, HTTPs will become much more popular. Now you can log into your system and compare the statistics for the site two segments - mobile and desktop traffic. Look at the number of failures and time spent on the site, and you will quickly realize just how critical your issue is and how urgently it is necessary to switch to HTTPs. It is better to solve these issues before your competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author Volodymyr Ulitovskyy
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    We have already faced similar issues with our website and need to address it sooner or later. It would be more informative if author can cover the following in his article as well:
    1) cost of conversion from http to https
    2) impact of https pages on SEO efforts.
    3) how users usually respond to these changes
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    • Profile picture of the author mommywriter
      Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post

      We have already faced similar issues with our website and need to address it sooner or later. It would be more informative if author can cover the following in his article as well:
      1) cost of conversion from http to https
      2) impact of https pages on SEO efforts.
      3) how users usually respond to these changes
      Sir, would you please guide that how did you manage to address the issues encountered by you?
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Shouldn't this be moved to the copywriting forum, it's an article, not a discussion? All we can do here is comment on the article writers skills as an author.

    On a scale of 1 to 5, 5 being best, I would rate this article as a 1. Poorly written.

    I'm not sure what point the author was trying to make, or why he even bothered to burden this forum with a nearly incomprehensible rant. It was incredible boring, poor layout, his thoughts were not organized in a way that I could make sense of whatever point he had in mind, if any. Seems that the point was word count, and nothing else.

    SO, I can only assume someone paid the author, by the word, and then posted this drivel here in an attempt to sabotage this forum.

    Moderators, I vote this thread should be removed, thanks,
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    • Profile picture of the author Volodymyr Ulitovskyy
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      you guys seem to have no idea what SEO is... instead of posting these amateur comments to unfairly criticize the author, spend a few minutes to read about the subject and learn how to truly appreciate this field of knowledge....

      "GI: I think about 30 percent of pages are using HTTPS. We’re looking to boost secure as a ranking factor, but we don’t want to do it too soon."

      http://searchengineland.com/ama-goog...dvanced-252465
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    • Profile picture of the author mommywriter
      i dont find any reason for such harshness dear. can you please specify that what is wrong with the content?
      i am just a reader and want to know.
      thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Fortunately https doesn't have shit to do with SEO.

    Try a Google search once in a while.
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    • Profile picture of the author Volodymyr Ulitovskyy
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Fortunately https doesn't have shit to do with SEO.

      Try a Google search once in a while.
      Obviously you have NONE/ZERO/NULL idea about what SEO is....
      By level of importance https is the 3rd out of 200-some different metrics used by Google to rank websites.... no need to pretend to be somebody you are not - a person who understands SEO ....
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post

        Obviously you have NONE/ZERO/NULL idea about what SEO is....
        By level of importance https is the 3rd out of 200-some different metrics used by Google to rank websites.... no need to pretend to be somebody you are not - a person who understands SEO ....


        I bet your SERP competition loves you, ha, ha.

        Fail.







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        • Profile picture of the author seoquicktop
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          Thanks for proving again that you have ZERO understanding of SEO....
          there are 200-some different and unique algorithms used by Google to rank every website... https is just one of 200, but it is an important one.
          So, running your website in https does increase your ranking overall, but is it not one single factor considered by Google. Other websites in your example have other factors (remaining 199-some Google algorithms) that make their cumulative total rank higher overall... even with http extension which surely hurts them.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by seoquicktop View Post

            Thanks for proving again that you have ZERO understanding of SEO....
            there are 200-some different and unique algorithms used by Google to rank every website... https is just one of 200, but it is an important one.
            So, running your website in https does increase your ranking overall, but is it not one single factor considered by Google. Other websites in your example have other factors (remaining 199-some Google algorithms) that make their cumulative total rank higher overall... even with http extension which surely hurts them.





            You quoted proof (real Google search screenshot) that your https claim failed.

            How's that denial working out?

            Maybe learn SEO and rank a few pages instead of reading SEO blog hype.
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            • Profile picture of the author Volodymyr Ulitovskyy
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              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              You quoted proof (real Google search screenshot) that your https claim failed.

              How's that denial working out?

              Maybe learn SEO and rank a few pages instead of reading SEO blog hype.
              Seems like you have trouble with reading and understanding English language... and understanding what exactly is being discussed here...
              btw, take some time to research who Gary Illyes is... and may-be..., just may-be you will finally start to understand the weight of this link (which was provided before, but was completely ignored by you)

              #SMX Advanced keynote: Google's Gary Illyes talks RankBrain, Penguin update & more

              Since you tend to be very slow... here is a hint - he is a Webmaster Trends Analyst at Google.
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post

                Seems like you have trouble with reading and understanding English language...
                Lmao, said the Ukrainian profile name...

                Classic.






                Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post

                btw, take some time to research who Gary Illyes is... and may-be..., just may-be you will finally start to understand the weight of this link (which was provided before, but was completely ignored by you)

                #SMX Advanced keynote: Google's Gary Illyes talks RankBrain, Penguin update & more

                Since you tend to be very slow... here is a hint - he is a Webmaster Trends Analyst at Google.

                I knew it was two clowns reading SEO blogs.

                Get back with me when you learn SEO or are at least capable of doing a basic Google search on your own.

                Here, I'll do a search for you again... That's two high traffic buyer intent keywords/screenshots proving you're both clueless about SEO.

                Three strikes and you're out.






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                • Profile picture of the author Volodymyr Ulitovskyy
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                  Yes, I am originally from Ukraine, and I can speak 3 languages - English, Russian, and Ukrainian. And seems like I can speak each of these 3 languages better than you can speak your only language - 2nd grade C-grade English....

                  Yes, you can throw at me 100s of examples, or millions... but you still do not get the point.... you compare apples to oranges.... but whatever, some people choose to remain simple-minded...
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                  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                    Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post

                    Yes, you can throw at me 100s of examples, or millions... but you still do not get the point.... you compare apples to oranges.... but whatever, some people choose to remain simple-minded...


                    Are you so daft that you can't comprehend images?

                    You have two screenshots/keywords in your face proving https doesn't have squat to do with SEO and you're still in denial.

                    That has to be embarrassing.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Volodymyr Ulitovskyy
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                      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                        Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post

                        since you LOVE images so much:


                        Putin, host the image somewhere else, the WF thumbnail doesn't enlarge.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Volodymyr Ulitovskyy
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                          Google search: "https vs http google ranking"
                          read and read and read and shut up....
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                    • Profile picture of the author Volodymyr Ulitovskyy
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                      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                        Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post

                        seriously man, what is wrong with you? just tell me? when was the last time you tested your IQ? you should really look into that....

                        it is like proving over and over that gasoline 91 is no different from gasoline 87 by testing it on Ferrari (87) vs Corolla (91).... Yes, Ferrari will always win despite 87 gasoline, but did you really proved anything?...


                        I've proven you're wrong about https.

                        You can't prove I'm wrong because the Google search doesn't BS like you and OP.

                        Have fun on page 87 of Google SERPs. FAIL.

                        Lol, you can't even figure out how to post an image.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    That has to be the biggest piece of WF spam ever posted. I mean that wins first prize, hands down!

    Complete rambling about nothing,coming to the conclusion that is might matter, then maybe not.

    I've said it before, I'll say it again. And again. And again.

    You people have no clue as to how the internet works. How can we expect you people to know how google works? We can't and you don't.

    Why do you people worship at the feet of searchengineland, moz, etc. They are businesses with their own agenda. Can't you people do actual research? Learn something? Check facts? Um...no.

    Some fool just tried to convince people that h1 means header tag because some fool-seo-website said so.

    No wise man has the power to reason away what a fool believes.

    So what did we learn about seo and https from this thread? Yes, no, maybe, perhaps, could be, would be, but as of now...probably not....now or later....sooner...should be.....all from one huge slice of forumspamzola.

    Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author Volodymyr Ulitovskyy
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      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      That has to be the biggest piece of WF spam ever posted. I mean that wins first prize, hands down!

      Complete rambling about nothing,coming to the conclusion that is might matter, then maybe not.

      I've said it before, I'll say it again. And again. And again.

      You people have no clue as to how the internet works. How can we expect you people to know how google works? We can't and you don't.

      Why do you people worship at the feet of searchengineland, moz, etc. They are businesses with their own agenda. Can't you people do actual research? Learn something? Check facts? Um...no.

      Some fool just tried to convince people that h1 means header tag because some fool-seo-website said so.

      No wise man has the power to reason away what a fool believes.

      So what did we learn about seo and https from this thread? Yes, no, maybe, perhaps, could be, would be, but as of now...probably not....now or later....sooner...should be.....all from one huge slice of forumspamzola.

      Paul
      Hey, I agree... nobody does know for sure... but external evidence suggests that https is ranked higher then http... it was the only point of this article....
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post

        Hey, I agree... nobody does know for sure... but external evidence suggests that https is ranked higher then http... it was the only point of this article....


        If you would open your eyes you would see you're wrong.

        Geez, how much proof do you need?

        Nobody knows for sure? GTHO.
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      • Profile picture of the author mommywriter
        Sir, would you please guide rest of the readers about the TRUTH that you know to be correct and misiterpreted by the author?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Every public attempt to test the impact of HTTPS on rankings has shown zero ranking improvement, and in a lot of cases actually caused temporary drops.

    The quote about Google seeing 30% of URLs with HTTPS is something that THEY CAUSED. They made this big show that HTTPS was going to be a ranking factor, so tons of people went and implemented it.

    It's just like the whole mobile friendly thing. They manipulated you to do what they wanted. That's all.

    If it is a ranking factor at all, it is so minute it is not even worth bothering with. That might change some time in the future, but today, it is probably one of the least impactful factors there are.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post



      Meatball, nobody cares about shit that doesn't rank pages. If it doesn't rank pages it's useless and has nothing to do with SEO.

      I'm bored with proving you and Uncle Buck wrong.

      Have a great day.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post


      Even their press release said it impacted less than 1% of search queries.

      And that was 2 years ago. I have yet to see a legitimate test performed that has indicated it is a significant factor. It might be a factor, but it is not a significant one. It is like the difference between your site loading in 1.50 seconds and 1.49 seconds. It won't matter.
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      • Profile picture of the author Volodymyr Ulitovskyy
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        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Even their press release said it impacted less than 1% of search queries.

        And that was 2 years ago. I have yet to see a legitimate test performed that has indicated it is a significant factor. It might be a factor, but it is not a significant one. It is like the difference between your site loading in 1.50 seconds and 1.49 seconds. It won't matter.
        every little thing matters... some visitors look at https and automatically trust your website more.... which generally improves their behavior and increases your chances for a sale....
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post

          every little thing matters... some visitors look at https and automatically trust your website more.... which generally improves their behavior and increases your chances for a sale....


          I'm back, because of this lol.

          SERP traffic doesn't care about sites with https. Duh...

          Https only matters for things like credit cards, which a large percentage of the web uses a 3rd party checkout (ex: Paypal) so https is pointless back on the money site that ranked on Google SERPs.

          I guarantee the average web traffic doesn't even know http or https exist.
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          • Profile picture of the author seoquicktop
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            please check this link:
            https://ahrefs.com/blog/ssl/

            it is always important to check reputable sources instead of trying to make your own judgements based on minuscule and narrow-minded proofs.....
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          • Profile picture of the author seoquicktop
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            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            I'm back, because of this lol.

            SERP traffic doesn't care about sites with https. Duh...

            Https only matters for things like credit cards, which a large percentage of the web uses a 3rd party checkout (ex: Paypal) so https is pointless back on the money site that ranked on Google SERPs.

            I guarantee the average web traffic doesn't even know http or https exist.
            check this link and OPEN your MIND (which is probably hard with low IQ... ;-))) 11 Critical Search Engine Ranking Factors (1 Million Results)
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              Originally Posted by seoquicktop View Post


              Did you actually read that article or just past the link for the hell of it?

              Nowhere in that article do they offer one shred of proof that HTTPS improves rankings other than to quote what Google said.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by Volodymyr Ulitovskyy View Post

          every little thing matters... some visitors look at https and automatically trust your website more.... which generally improves their behavior and increases your chances for a sale....

          If you polled people outside of IM'ers, I would bet you would find that 99% have no idea what HTTPS is. You are thinking like an IM'er, not the average web visitor.
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  • Profile picture of the author getreal5
    HTTPS and Google’s Opinion

    It shouldn’t come as a surprise that Google prefers sites that are trusted and certified.
    This is because users can be guaranteed that the site will encrypt their information for that extra level of security. However, you should understand that getting a certificate can be an involved task (which is why it allows for higher ranking benefits).
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  • Profile picture of the author webby0031
    HTTPS does nothing for ranking at this point in time, was this another useless post from the OP oh yes it was
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    • Profile picture of the author mommywriter
      very rightly said. HTTPS is perhaps the only solution to stop the hacking crap. Let the hackers rest in peace for ever
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  • Profile picture of the author mommywriter
    i have always been wondering about HTTP aspect in SEO work. your article clarifies quite a few doubts and it is quite informative. would you follow up with another article on the subject?
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