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No Follow/Do Follow on youtube

by Daniel Lezcano
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So this is confusing because when you look at the page source or inspect element I find conflicts between what I see and what I here about this.

Our example is on Youtube. I often hear a good opportunity to build a quality link is to add your website URL to the video in description you upload. However, look at the HTML:

<a href="http://wwwGrill-Repair.com" class=" yt-uix-servicelink " data-url="http://wwwGrill-Repair.com" data-servicelink="CDEQ6TgiEwixv-j-yufQAhWF474KHTJlBUgo-B0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://wwwGrill-Repair.com</a>

Now here is a link left on that guys page in the comments section and look at the HTML:

<a href="http://www.grilltanksplus.com" class=" yt-uix-servicelink " data-servicelink="CAYQtnUiEwikj9_Ly-fQAhWQwr4KHe3bCMk" data-url="http://www.grilltanksplus.com">www.grilltanksplus.com</a>

There is no "no-follow" tag?????????
#follow #follow or do #youtube
  • Profile picture of the author shaunybb
    Hey there!


    Yes youtube changes it algorithm a lot so you will sometimes come across this!


    Comments are usually no follow and back in the day the description links were followed


    they change it constantly!
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Lezcano
      Originally Posted by shaunybb View Post

      Hey there!


      Yes youtube changes it algorithm a lot so you will sometimes come across this!


      Comments are usually no follow and back in the day the description links were followed


      they change it constantly!
      This makes most sense indeed it must be they change it all the time ... That's why I can find conflict from source to source.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I'm not sure where your confusion is. If the code says it is nofollow, then it is nofollow.

    Even if you drop the nofollow tag, links on YouTube pages are pretty worthless SEO-wise.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Lezcano
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I'm not sure where your confusion is. If the code says it is nofollow, then it is nofollow.

      Even if you drop the nofollow tag, links on YouTube pages are pretty worthless SEO-wise.
      But is it's a follow link, (in our context meaning no "no follow" tag exists) than how is it not relevant SEO Wise?

      Now I get that links in the comment section should probably be "no follow" obviously this creates a better environment because it will reduce spam, but if tactfully one drops a link in a Youtube comment and no tag stops it from being crawled then it must be relevant - it must be considered a link pointing back at another site from a trusted domain = good for SEO.

      ???? Please elaborate I'm here to learn ...
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Originally Posted by Daniel Lezcano View Post

        ???? Please elaborate I'm here to learn ...
        Youtube comments are useless for seo.

        You have to understand how the internet, google, youtube, and crawlers work.

        Or you will be chasing fool's gold.

        That fellow in the mirror might look like he's there, on the other side of the glass, but it's only an illusion.

        I think some of you do seo with mirrors.

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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Lezcano
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Youtube comments are useless for seo.

          You have to understand how the internet, google, youtube, and crawlers work.

          Or you will be chasing fool's gold.

          That fellow in the mirror might look like he's there, on the other side of the glass, but it's only an illusion.

          I think some of you do seo with mirrors.

          Paul
          Is all of your input just metaphor??? ... do you have any knowledge to offer???

          Are you saying that a follow link in a comment is no good just because its coming from a social media site - Is there some sort of algorithm or something that detects that without there even being a no-follow tag??? Or maybe crawlers look for other indicators that indicate don't crawl anything in this area! ... Like a sitemap maybe?? ... that I am not aware of??

          Can you give me anything tangible or concrete ... lol???
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          • Profile picture of the author savidge4
            Originally Posted by Daniel Lezcano View Post

            Are you saying that a follow link in a comment is no good just because its coming from a social media site - Is there some sort of algorithm or something that detects that without there even being a no-follow tag???
            I bet no, that's not what he is saying... what he is saying is that even with a follow link from a video page on you tube the link juice would be so diluted because of the other 50+ links on the page, forget the idea of even bringing in the unknown PR value of the page ( which would be nil ) and you basically have a worthless link.

            Forget PA DA PR what ever... the reality is all back links are not created equal. there is really more to it than some 3rd party interpretation of page value. Part of the equation I would consider includes what all of those links are linking to, is it all in context to the page you wish to get linked to. or is it more willy nilly and pointing at non contextual content.

            obviously the number of links on the page is a consideration. the more links overall, basically the less overall juice that gets passed by each individual link. Think of it this way... every page has a "Juice" value.. for the sake of discussion its 100% IF there would be 100 links on a page, each link would then pass 1% of the pages allotted juice. regardless of follow, or no-follow each link is counted.. for every no-follow link on a page the juice associated to those links stays there. IE 50 links are follow and 50 are no-follow.. each link is still 1%, and only the 50 follow links would pass the 1% each.

            Especially considering you tube as a back link source you have to consider how many comments are on the page.. generally speaking each and every comment is a link no? so the link strength coming from a video page would be so diluted.. you may as well concentrate on getting back links from pr0 sites with minimal links on the page.. they would probably have more value.
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            • Profile picture of the author Daniel Lezcano
              Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

              I bet no, that's not what he is saying... what he is saying is that even with a follow link from a video page on you tube the link juice would be so diluted because of the other 50+ links on the page, forget the idea of even bringing in the unknown PR value of the page ( which would be nil ) and you basically have a worthless link.

              Forget PA DA PR what ever... the reality is all back links are not created equal. there is really more to it than some 3rd party interpretation of page value. Part of the equation I would consider includes what all of those links are linking to, is it all in context to the page you wish to get linked to. or is it more willy nilly and pointing at non contextual content.

              obviously the number of links on the page is a consideration. the more links overall, basically the less overall juice that gets passed by each individual link. Think of it this way... every page has a "Juice" value.. for the sake of discussion its 100% IF there would be 100 links on a page, each link would then pass 1% of the pages allotted juice. regardless of follow, or no-follow each link is counted.. for every no-follow link on a page the juice associated to those links stays there. IE 50 links are follow and 50 are no-follow.. each link is still 1%, and only the 50 follow links would pass the 1% each.

              Especially considering you tube as a back link source you have to consider how many comments are on the page.. generally speaking each and every comment is a link no? so the link strength coming from a video page would be so diluted.. you may as well concentrate on getting back links from pr0 sites with minimal links on the page.. they would probably have more value.
              I see, havent heard it said that way about link count on a page effecting juice, will need to verify that. Check this out since you mentioned PA and DA. I here a PA or DA juice still flows even from a no follow link. Look at this article ...

              https://www.serpwoo.com/blog/experts...domains-trust/

              His argument hinges upon the fact that even though Wikipedia links aren't follow links you cant have a link generating more DA or PA for you than a Wikipedia link. He says PA and DA still get to your page via the link ... what do you think??
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              • Profile picture of the author savidge4
                Originally Posted by Daniel Lezcano View Post

                His argument hinges upon the fact that even though Wikipedia links aren't follow links you cant have a link generating more DA or PA for you than a Wikipedia link. He says PA and DA still get to your page via the link ... what do you think??
                That is NOT his argument at all... He is telling you where follow links can be found... but again the pages themselves will have little to no link value ( they are structurally deep pages ) These pages would have no linking towards them, and like said before the value would be minimal.

                This is an article on Trust Rank... Kinda hard to explain really.. Google does have a patent on this that suggests there are a number of seed sites ( if I recall its 100 - could be wrong and to lazy to look it up real quick). these seed sites are determined by the physical location of servers. They are on the backbone of the internet. and another variable in this is the amount of links going towards these seed sites.

                even that is kinda speculation.... and then you get into the tiered structure beyond that point and it gets complicated quick. I would suggest doing some research and finding out for your self here. Trust Rank is a complicated fuzzy subject. As far as I know there really is no actual list other than say at Google what the Seed Sites are.. it is seriously all speculation.

                If Trust Rank is something you are going to go after... I have to say it is something I go after... you need to be down right selective of your link source choices... understand what "contextual linking" really means... the more on point you stay with that the better off you will be.

                And lets be real clear here... when you are linking in this type of strategy..it does not matter if you go for follow or no-follow.. its not ranking juice you are after. Page rank and trust rank are 2 totally different things. "Thanks for the compliment. To clarify - the links being nofollow have nothing to do with the trustflow that the links create to your site. Wikipedia is completely nofollow, yet a link from them holds more weight then any other authority site. This isn't about "pagerank" link-juice, it's for the trust factor and authority factor - nofollow or dofollow is irrelevant in that trust flow." - from the comment section of that article.
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  • Profile picture of the author deepakrajput
    YouTube by default add no-follow tag in their link.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tech Savvy Guy
    Getting a link from Youtube video description would be nofollow, however you can not choose an anchor text for that. The Matter of fact is its actually enough to get a link from the large platforms like youtube. Because to transfer a lot of referral traffic to the mentioned link.
    I have a video that daily generates 50-100 visits on a specific post of my blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author quachdaihjep8x
    A key distinction between types of links is nofollow and dofollow links. The difference between nofollow links and dofollow links is that Google uses only dofollow links in making search engine rankings. Nofollow links on their own will not improve the position in a Google search of the linked item, whether it be a website, a video, a YouTube channel, or anything else. Dofollow links...do affect search engine rankings. Before Google created the nofollow attribute in 2005, all links were dofollow.

    When you create a link through a social media platform--including YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, and the rest--the place where you create the link affects whether it is a dofollow link or a nofollow link. Most will be nofollow, an attempt to discourage spam comments. On Facebook all links are nofollow. Here's a rundown of YouTube links and whether they are nofollow or dofollow.
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  • Profile picture of the author quachdaihjep8x
    This makes most sense indeed it must be they change it all the time ... That's why I can find conflict from source to source.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by Daniel Lezcano View Post

    But is it's a follow link, (in our context meaning no "no follow" tag exists) than how is it not relevant SEO Wise?

    Now I get that links in the comment section should probably be "no follow" obviously this creates a better environment because it will reduce spam, but if tactfully one drops a link in a Youtube comment and no tag stops it from being crawled then it must be relevant - it must be considered a link pointing back at another site from a trusted domain = good for SEO.

    ???? Please elaborate I'm here to learn ...

    What I mean is YouTube pages are weak pages by themselves. Unless there are a lot of links pointing to them, they do not have much value. The main domain doesn't matter. You are not getting a link from the main domain. You are getting a link from some random page that probably has a PageRank of zero.

    And as for your comment about DA and PA, who cares if DA and PA flow through nofollow links or not? DA and PA are not ranking factors used by any search engine. They are metrics that Moz made up for their own purposes.
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  • Profile picture of the author ankur88
    YouTube changes it's rules frequently but do-follow links are given on description and do-follow links are given on comments
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  • Profile picture of the author toysoldier80
    Many times your able to get a link on Youtube naturally without even asking. You tube is a great source for backlinks. The main thing is to place the link in the beginning of the description. However, if you have a regular channel with over 10,000 Subscribers, then your able to maybe place a link in the middle, at the end etc. because that content is read regularly.
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