Is it Illegal to Use Angelas Backlin Methods?

desi4eva

15 years ago

It is illegal if you are not contributing anything back to the site so if you comment and use the blog then it is fine

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paulgl 15 years ago

There's nothing illegal about it.
What law or police ?
It may violate TOS, but that's it. Just get your
account cancelled. But illegal?

Anyone has the right to take legal action. Does not
make it illegal. Courts are clogged already. Sounds
like someone just blowing smoke to scare you off.
And it looks like it did. Nobody would spend tons of
money on a little thing like that.

Paul
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- skyparc 15 years ago
  
  I agree with paulgl, very unlikely a webmaster will go through the expense to launch legal action against you
  
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iblbuilder 15 years ago

What utter nonsense! Of course its not illegal. These sites supply profile pages for their members to fillup, but now apparently they are unhappy because its not the "right" sort of links on those pages.

If people are spamming the public areas then fine, its an issue, but if all they do is add stuff to a personal profile page then surely its their right as the page is provided for them to do so. If they want to vet "types" of link and content the do it - or shut the hell up.

People with forums etc need to grow up, and accept that people link to stuff on the net, and if they dont like it then dont run a bloody membership site!

Originally Posted by desi4eva

It is illegal if you are not contributing anything back to the site so if you comment and use the blog then it is fine
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- Bewley 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by iblbuilder
  
  People with forums etc need to grow up, and accept that people link to stuff on the net, and if they dont like it then dont run a bloody membership site!
  
  What a bleeding stupid thing to say! As a favour for a friend, I run a non profit forum for breast cancer suffers. The members are either undergoing treatment (chemo, radiotherapy) or are terminal.
  
  I allow links in posts because members link to products or resources that have helped them through the side effects of treatment, or link to other breast cancer related resources.
  
  I have had to delete countless spammers who actually post in some of the most harrowing threads you would not want to read - and drop their spammy links that bear no relation to breast cancer. If I could personally get hold of them, I would do them physical harm!
  
  So please do not say people who run forums have to grow up and not have membership sites - It seems, from your post, that ANY forum that allows links to be posted is fair game!
  
  btw, I am in no way referring to Angela's backlinks
  
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4morereferrals

15 years ago

Hot air and more BS ... Ask yourself - what would a jury of your peers asses as his/her financial damages caused by ... you joining his/her site and placing a link to your own? Aggrevation is not "usually" a compensable injury.

Let it flow over you like water off a ducks back ...

NEXT.

PS - there's [ literally ] a million more sites where that tool came from.

Originally Posted by jonoman1

The reason I ask this is because I was confronted by a webmaster after I posted a few backlinks on my profile page.

In an email he threatened to subpoena the log files from my server.

I actually only posted ONE link in my profile and he accused me of spam.

My question is... can we get in any trouble here? We are posting irrelevent links in our profiles and signatures using Angelas and Paul Johnsons links, ubt is there any legal action someone can take?

I have also seen how I cannot sometimes register at a site because it says I have been blacklisted. What information is the site reading? Are they blacklisting my Ip address or is there another way they are using to think I am a spammer?

Any help on this is appreciated. Thanks guys,

Jon

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belgirl

15 years ago

I can't stand it when people threaten others with words like "illegal" and "subpoena" If someone said that to me, I would say "bring it on." They are all bark and no bite and I would be very surprised if they had the financial resources to back up all their bravado. I agree with what has been said before--it may violate TOS, but it is not illegal.

Who is this "webmaster?"

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jonoman1

15 years ago

Thanks for all of your encouraging words. I had a feeling he was just blowing smoke, but it never hurts to ask.

Not to name names this place over at Kinism Online | Occidental Christianity is sure not a place I was expecting to get such criticism. Especially when I had only posted ONE link and it was in the place where it ASKS for a website. WHat was I supposed to do.

Maybe he just had a bad day. Who knows.

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4morereferrals

15 years ago

Uhhh ok...christian website? LOL.

Originally Posted by jonoman1

Thanks for all of your encouraging words. I had a feeling he was just blowing smoke, but it never hurts to ask.

This webmaster is a guy over at Kinism Online | Occidental Christianity

His name is John. The sad thing is that it is supposed to be a Christian website, but the guy was swearing at me in his emails, threatening legal action. Maybe he just had a bad day. Who knows.

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cypherslock

15 years ago

Being Christian has nothing to do with whether or not you swear. I know quite a few that swear a blue streak.

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Kay King 15 years ago

There's a reason for the rule about not naming names on the WF.

It doesn't matter who it is - or what his site is - what he sees is someone using his site only to promote their own site.

He has a valid point - and a right to remove your links. Otherwise, ignore him. He may have had a bad day because his site was listed on the monthly list you subscribe to and a hundred or more people went there to drop unrelated links.

In his view - especially if he doesn't understand what process is being used and why - he's being spammed or attacked and reacts with anger.

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- jonoman1 15 years ago
  
  You are absolutely right Kay. Thanks for your input. No one is questioning his rights.
  
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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Lmao, just a webmaster keyboard warrior. Sure it's annoying to have spammers flood your site, but it's not illegal.

This guy is just trying to scare you.

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lingodan

15 years ago

Don't let stuff like that bother you. You need to check your feelings at the door when you turn on your computer. The net is so big, just go somewhere else. I would've expected a Christian to be a little more uh...... Civil!

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4morereferrals

15 years ago

Before you go calling the webmaster at this site a christian, you may want to read up a little on what this guy really stands for ... Kin-ism.

Bottom line - its an empty threat. Put the email in the trash where it belongs and move on and make more $$$.

End of report!

Originally Posted by lingodan

Don't let stuff like that bother you. You need to check your feelings at the door when you turn on your computer. The net is so big, just go somewhere else. I would've expected a Christian to be a little more uh...... Civil!

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carlos123 15 years ago

Originally Posted by lingodan

I would've expected a Christian to be a little more uh...... Civil!

Just to interject a little tid bit of a correction into this thread...just because some calls themselves a Christian does not a Christian make anymore than someone calling themselves a Warrior Forum member makes them a roaring Adsense success.

Most people claiming to be Christians today, even among Church goers, are nothing of the sort!

Just for what it's worth.

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timpears

15 years ago

The part of this that amazes me is that you can only place a link in your profile if they provide a spot for it. Therefore, they are obviously inviting you to do it. Then then get mad because you do.

Mostly I have to believe that this type of behavior from webmasters is because they are having a bad day, or bad week or whatever.

Bottom line, if you are going to leave back links around the web, some of them are going to get deleted. This is just part of the process, and you have to get used to it. But there is no law that you have broken, so it is not illegal. It might be against someone's rules, but that is a totally different thing. And I wouldn't put up with anyone's bullying because of it. There isn't a hell of a lot that they can do, apart fom deleting your link, which I think they already did.

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Angela V. Edwards

15 years ago

Originally Posted by timpears

Bottom line, if you are going to leave back links around the web, some of them are going to get deleted. This is just part of the process, and you have to get used to it. But there is no law that you have broken, so it is not illegal. It might be against someone's rules, but that is a totally different thing. And I wouldn't put up with anyone's bullying because of it. There isn't a hell of a lot that they can do, apart fom deleting your link, which I think they already did.

Exactly. And just so everyone knows, if backlinking WAS illegal, I would NOT be promoting it. It's illegal to hack a website. It's annoying but legal to place a link inside an active conversation on a website. It's legal and only annoying to one person: the webmaster, to place a link inside a profile that no one but the owner of the website actually sees unless they specifically go looking for it.

Next time you see a theat like this, think about whether a judge would ACTUALLY take on a case in his courtroom over someone leaving a link inside a profile in a spot that acually allows for it. What judge would do that?

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halfpoint

15 years ago

Originally Posted by timpears

The part of this that amazes me is that you can only place a link in your profile if they provide a spot for it. Therefore, they are obviously inviting you to do it. Then then get mad because you do.

Mostly I have to believe that this type of behavior from webmasters is because they are having a bad day, or bad week or whatever.

Bottom line, if you are going to leave back links around the web, some of them are going to get deleted. This is just part of the process, and you have to get used to it. But there is no law that you have broken, so it is not illegal. It might be against someone's rules, but that is a totally different thing. And I wouldn't put up with anyone's bullying because of it. There isn't a hell of a lot that they can do, apart fom deleting your link, which I think they already did.

Bingo. I agree 100% with all of this.

Luckily I've only encountered emails like the op's a few times, but when I do get them, I simply delete them and delete that site from my "master list" of high pr sites and move on.

You're not breaking any laws so keep doing what you're doing.

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jitterbug978

15 years ago

Its not "Illegal" there's no law anywhere stating in any way or form that this sort of action is prohibited. You MAY lose your account though...

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J smith

15 years ago

I am not a lawyer and to be honest in US if someone has enough money to blow they can probably sue you for having blue eyes and win.

With that said, making a profile on a site that allows profiles and putting a link in a signature or "homepage" section of said profile can't be "illegal" since the site in question allows it. hacking a site and putting your link in there would be illegal. If said webmaster doesn't want to have to deal with this situation, s/he can simply disable links in signatures (I've seen a few sites that do this) and not allow you to put a link in the "profile" itself.

With that said a site is of course their property and they can do whatever they want, including banning your ip (I got IP banned by one site.. and I didn't even put links on it lol, just registered and didn't post =p)

Anyway, unless you are making hundreads or thousands of profiles using a bot program (do those even exist?) allowing a webmaster to claim that your activity had an impact on their web site, there is nothing even remotely illegal about making a profile and putting links in it. Although it's not really what the people who made the system envisioned.