Is it true about .edu back links?

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Hi All,

Just a quick question about .edu back links...

Do they rank your website better in search engines?

Why are .edu links better? Or are they not?

Looking forward to your replies.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Backlinking is not my speciality but I would say they are amongst the most desirable to get because only schools or universities can get them.

    As such they are full of authority in Googles eyes and hence full of win.

    One backlink from Harvard is worth 10,000,000 backlinks from random sources I would guess :p

    Same would be a backlink from Googles front page or NASA or CNN or BBC or any of the major players.
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    • Profile picture of the author Phoenyx
      What sparhawke says is true. Google and a lot of other bots will rank a page higher if it is found on an authority site. Some say that if you compared backlinks from two different sites, one has backlinks from blogs, and the other from an authority site like a college etc. The second site will rank higher and have a better reputation than the site with only blog backlinks. If you can backlink from one of these sites, even if it is one link a week, your efforts will be rewarded.
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      • Profile picture of the author rikkib51
        Originally Posted by Sparhawke View Post

        Backlinking is not my speciality but I would say they are amongst the most desirable to get because only schools or universities can get them.

        As such they are full of authority in Googles eyes and hence full of win.

        One backlink from Harvard is worth 10,000,000 backlinks from random sources I would guess :p

        Same would be a backlink from Googles front page or NASA or CNN or BBC or any of the major players.


        Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post

        What sparhawke says is true. Google and a lot of other bots will rank a page higher if it is found on an authority site. Some say that if you compared backlinks from two different sites, one has backlinks from blogs, and the other from an authority site like a college etc. The second site will rank higher and have a better reputation than the site with only blog backlinks. If you can backlink from one of these sites, even if it is one link a week, your efforts will be rewarded.

        It does make sense with Google seeing .edu links as an authority site. How effective do you think .edu links are compared to others?

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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    If you had a backlink to your little technology site from MIT.edu or University of Cambridge (UK version of .edu) then it would far outweigh all the random backlinks from places such as lolcats.com

    By the numbers it may only give you PR1 but its kung fu would be strong.

    Not all sites are created equal, imagine 2 sites having pretty much the same material with the same pagerank and one has a link from MIT and the other has them from fartingbunnies.com

    Can you guess which one will get the top spot?
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  • Profile picture of the author parke
    Since websites ending in .EDU are considered trusted sites by Google, they are generally credible, and often webmasters think that a link from an .EDU page with PageRank is more valuable than a link from another page with the same PageRank.

    .EDU Backlinks Carry Greater Search Engine Weight

    Today, it is generally accepted that .edu and .gov backlinks carry a larger weight for search engine algorithms. Despite the fact that search engine giant Google has never admitted it, most SEO and online marketing analysts confirm that .edu and .gov links outperform other extensions in terms of search ranking and leverage... "

    "Incoming back links are all links to a website, whether to the root or if they are deep links. However, although all back links are valuable to some degree (even minimally), some are more useful than others. Links from educational, military, or governmental websites, i.e., those ending with .edu, .mil, and .gov, are thought to be the most useful. This is because such websites are very selective in who they choose to link to. Search engines capitalize on this fact and weigh links accordingly."
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  • Profile picture of the author 82ana
    .edu and .gov backlinks are the word of god when it comes to search engines.
    If you can get them... GET THEM.

    Very desirable things these links...
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by 82ana View Post

      .edu and .gov backlinks are the word of god when it comes to search engines.
      Let's be clear about something here, though.

      They're not so important because of the domain extension.

      The domain extension is a coincidence.

      Most educational and government sites have a) been around forever, and b) gathered a tonne and a half of backlinks.

      That is why you want these backlinks. Not because the sites end in .edu and .gov, but because the sites have massive authority.

      Do not be fooled into thinking the domain extension matters.
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      • Profile picture of the author 82ana
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        Let's be clear about something here, though.

        They're not so important because of the domain extension.

        The domain extension is a coincidence.

        Most educational and government sites have a) been around forever, and b) gathered a tonne and a half of backlinks.

        That is why you want these backlinks. Not because the sites end in .edu and .gov, but because the sites have massive authority.

        Do not be fooled into thinking the domain extension matters.
        I agree with the backlinks bit, adding to the authority of .edu, but aged domains seem like a bit of a myth to me.

        I don't believe much that comes out of this guy's mouth but
        I think their "authority" has more to do with the brand, backlinks, traffic and well content. Maybe i'm wrong...
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by singhavn View Post

            so where do we get the cheapest .edu and .gov links
            You can buy lists of them at places like fiverr.com. However, for the reasons explained in posts #10 and #17 above, those would be exactly the ones to avoid as they're typically very poor quality backlinks.
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            • Profile picture of the author Phoenyx
              It's true though. but here's another question though. Does an authority site have to have a .edu or .gov link? It seems like a silly question yes, but think about it. As CDarklock says, the fact that they have edu and gov extensions are coincidence. As an example, I will use a site like deviantart. The site itself is massive, and the amount of backlinks it has is astounding and it's been around for years. If you were a designer or programmer or even an artist looking for commissions for instance, and a deviant on deviantart, would backlinking from the site be seen as comming from an authority site?
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              • Profile picture of the author TheSEOmo
                Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post

                It's true though. but here's another question though. Does an authority site have to have a .edu or .gov link? It seems like a silly question yes, but think about it. As CDarklock says, the fact that they have edu and gov extensions are coincidence. As an example, I will use a site like deviantart. The site itself is massive, and the amount of backlinks it has is astounding and it's been around for years. If you were a designer or programmer or even an artist looking for commissions for instance, and a deviant on deviantart, would backlinking from the site be seen as comming from an authority site?
                A site does not need to be .edu or .gov to be considered an authority site. What they are saying is that many .gov and .edu sites are "authority" sites because they are massive, heavily back linked, aged, trusted etc., not because of the extension. In fact most authority sites are .coms.
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                • Profile picture of the author davidmeeonline
                  I like the direction this thread is going!

                  I have thought for a while now, that these thousands of linking services promoting .edu and .gov sites will eventually ruin it for everybody.

                  Google is going to discound these links sooner or later, and rely only on the authority of the site the link comes from.

                  Makes sense to get the premuim links now, so that when profile links no longer count for much, the long term linkbuilders will come out on top!
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  • Profile picture of the author asimbawany
    Every thing that everyone else said before me would be true for EDU and GOV links.
    These are highly trusted sites.

    A link from another site is like an average joe recommending your shop. and edu or gov link is like a big celeb endorsing your shop on TV
    See the difference?

    One backlink from Harvard is worth 10,000,000 backlinks from random sources I would guess :p
    lol, I think you went a little overboard with that number mate :p
    I dont think I can put a number on it but yes, they are a lot more valuable than all other kinds of links even from a high PR .com site I would say.
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  • Profile picture of the author rikkib51
    Hi,

    Excellent. I might concentrate my back linking using .edu links instead.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author asimbawany
    I agree with the backlinks bit, adding to the authority of .edu, but aged domains seem like a bit of a myth to me.
    I dont think the video is talking about aged domains here...
    He is talking about how many years have you registered your domain for while registering it. People think that you ought to register a domain for 3 years while buying for google to take your site seriously. This is not true as the video explains. I have sites that I put up just about a month ago and those domains have only been registered for this year. they are ranking very well.

    Aged domains are when you already have a site up and running for an x number of years. a 5 year old domain which has good content and good number of links pointing to it is an aged domain. and they DO carry a LOT of weight in ranking. You will often find websites on the 1st page for very competitive terms with only a couple of hundred backlinks to the entire domain. The thing thats working in their favor is the HUGE authority that they have accumulated by being online for 10 years or so.

    So age DOES matter a LOT
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    • Profile picture of the author 82ana
      Originally Posted by asimbawany View Post

      So age DOES matter a LOT
      hmmm... I was talking in the context of .edu/.gov extension not on the whole. Maybe i am wrong (I mostly am ) but last week I got a couple of backlinks (organic) from a .edu blog. It was created in 2009. A funny thing happened that very day... Google up-ed my site for the keyword the blog used.

      I'm just saying that if google takes into account 200 different factors before determining the PR... the physical "age" of the site (as from the day Google first indexed the site) might not be all that important. (?)

      I completely agree with your idea, where an aged domain is one... with high quality content, traffic, backlinks and authority accumulated over a number of years has A LOT of clout. (and a high PR to boot). That's what I was saying (rather poorly).

      Cheers,
      S

      (p.s. its 5am at my end of the world, so if this seems to make little sense just ignore)
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      • Profile picture of the author SamuelJ
        Agree with CDarklock to an extent about the massive
        authority, etc and I also believe there is some weight
        in the fact that these site sdon't just link out to anyone.

        rikkib51 you don't just want all Edu links, you want to
        have an even spread of different types of links from a
        lot of different sites.

        Examples: Social bookmarking, web 2.0, contextual,
        articles, forums, social media, RSS, blog posts, comments,
        directory submissions, dofollow, nofollow, anchor text,
        URL, related keywords, non related keywords (non theme
        specific E.G best service, fast delivery), reciprocal and so on.

        If all your links are from different places and different
        types it is going to look more natural and more relevant
        and that's what the search engines want.

        And in saying all that quality does matter as well
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        • Profile picture of the author rikkib51
          Originally Posted by SamuelJ View Post

          Agree with CDarklock to an extent about the massive
          authority, etc and I also believe there is some weight
          in the fact that these site sdon't just link out to anyone.

          rikkib51 you don't just want all Edu links, you want to
          have an even spread of different types of links from a
          lot of different sites.

          Examples: Social bookmarking, web 2.0, contextual,
          articles, forums, social media, RSS, blog posts, comments,
          directory submissions, dofollow, nofollow, anchor text,
          URL, related keywords, non related keywords (non theme
          specific E.G best service, fast delivery), reciprocal and so on.

          If all your links are from different places and different
          types it is going to look more natural and more relevant
          and that's what the search engines want.

          And in saying all that quality does matter as well
          Hi,

          Yeah I will also have other links apart from .edu but I'll mainly concentrate on the .edu ones.

          Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Martijn122
    As said above; it's not the .edu extension itself its the site hosted on it. All .gov and .edu sites have a high authority just because they are huge. Not because of the extension .
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by rikkib51 View Post

    Why are .edu links better? Or are they not?
    Some are; some aren't at all (as I've learned from testing, and now understand why).

    As Caliban rightly mentions above, what "makes better" the ones that are "better" (and they can undeniably be a lot better) isn't the fact that they're .edu sites: it's the fact that they're authority sites.

    Many .edu backlinks (especially the ones sold on lists, in packages, and by backlinking services) are no better than an article directory backlink, i.e. they're non-context-relevant to your site, and regardless of the PR of the site's home page, your backlink goes on a PR-0 page anyway.

    If you're promoting (say) a herbal remedy for arthritis or an arthritis e-book and have anchor-text using an appropriate keyword, a backlink from Yale University medical school, rheumatology department, is an excellent one (and good luck getting it). A backlink from a student forum profile of Hicksville College is pretty worthless.

    Just as with any other backlink, it's the quality, context and authority of the site that matters, not the domain-extension.

    That said, it's true that some .edu domains are authority sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    This shouldn't be difficult.

    Let's ask - Why would Google care?

    Possible answers:

    1 - They don't

    This doesn't seem to tie in with popular belief.

    2 - Because these domains are aged

    Not sure I'm buying that but I suppose it's possible but it wouldn't make much difference as has already been said - you don't need age to do well

    3 - Because they have 'authority'

    I guess that would then mean we need to define authority. This is usually (in seo terms) based on it having built up a massive base of related content. I'm not sure I believe that's why these help since many .edu sites do not have that much content that is viewable by Google.

    4 - Because these domains are only given to verified educational establishments?

    Well if I was Google and I wanted some way to be sure I could trust the content of a website I guess a good place to start would be websites that had to fulfill some sort of filtering/criteria before they could get a certain type of domain extension. This would also then apply to things like .gov which does seem to be my experience as far as 'good links' goes.

    I guess we'll never really know the true level to which these things make a difference but based on my experience there does seem to be some sort of preference/weight given to certain types of links based on where they come from and .edu links do seem to help more than most general types.

    What probably matters more is how and where you get them rather than hypothesising about why they help.

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  • Profile picture of the author samuel.johnson
    I think .edu or .gov sites will not spam and that's the only thing it sis getting good serp ranks.
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  • Profile picture of the author HorseStall
    Most .edu websites are trusted and "authority" sites in the eyes of Google, not because of their domain extensions but because they are associated with schools/universities and contain good quality information.
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    • Profile picture of the author 82ana
      Originally Posted by HorseStall View Post

      Most .edu websites are trusted and "authority" sites in the eyes of Google, not because of their domain extensions but because they are associated with schools/universities and contain good quality information.
      Brand! That's what the have... the .gov or .edu brand.
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  • Profile picture of the author cutyleo
    Hi Friends,

    can anybody tell the way to get backlinks from .edu, .gov ? Just for commenting on those sites , If it is yes how the comment should be? Is any other ways are there to get backlinks from .edu and .gov websites?

    Thanks,
    Cuty.
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  • Profile picture of the author Royalking
    Yes the edu links will boost your rankings.
    The reason is edu links are considered high authority sites because they are possessed by educational institutes only and not spammers so getting a link from them is hard and if you get then you definitely are going to increase your ranking.
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