1 MILLION links, Just $5??

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Cosmit

Hey everyone! Who wants ONE MILLION (1,000,000) HIGH QUALITY links for only $5???

Then again, why on earth would you?

I want to share my experience with fiverr. I purchased 2 "SEO services" off fiverr for one of my 1-month "stable keywords" as a test.

I got "11K high quality backlinks" (aka. trashy scrapebox comment spam which wasnt disclosed until after) and a few hundred links from some other sites.

Rankings? Dropped a few spots and remained there for over a month now.

Funny thing is, back when I started the site I did some manual off-site SEO for 2 days and got the fresh domain ranking #7 for a keyword (40k broad 11.5k exact) in about a week (not EMD). As some links disappeared the site stabilized on spot 11 and then dropped to 13 after my "test".

Bottom line, stay away from trash like comment spam, profile links, article submitters, etc.

Of course, I'm no "SEO expert", so that's only my opinion. What are your thoughts?

Yeah thats what I think too. Even if what Fiverr sellers are saying is right, you just do not want so many crappy links pointing directly to your domain.

Stay away from these kind of offers (unless your website already have thousands of links and age behind it).

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Kiril S

13 years ago

I do not believe that crappy links can penalize your domain name. If that were true, you could eliminate your competitors by blasting a huge amount of spam links to their sites.

The worst thing that a backlink can do is NOTHING. Even then, that's not entirely true as I strongly believe that even a spammy profile backlink is rewarding. The key is to have a diversity of backlinks, which will make all your backlinks credible.

What probably happened to you was google dancing.

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Robert Michael

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kiril S

I do not believe that crappy links can penalize your domain name. If that were true, you could eliminate your competitors by blasting a huge amount of spam links to their sites.

What probably happened to you was google dancing.

^^ EXACTLY.

i was going to post it but then i saw it had been said already. lol

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noah.whitmore

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kiril S

I do not believe that crappy links can penalize your domain name. If that were true, you could eliminate your competitors by blasting a huge amount of spam links to their sites.

The worst thing that a backlink can do is NOTHING. Even then, that's not entirely true as I strongly believe that even a spammy profile backlink is rewarding. The key is to have a diversity of backlinks, which will make all your backlinks credible.

What probably happened to you was google dancing.

I know that a lot of people argue about this back and forth. But, in my experience, links can hurt you.

I received an awesome niche site at an awesome price because someone sabotaged it with 15,000 low quality links at one time. The site was ranking #1 for three crazy keywords and hundreds of longtails. One day, the owner found his site completely gone after two years of consistently ranking. He checked Traffic Travis and found that 15,000 links has suddenly appeared on non-contrexual, crappy sites.

Turns out that the links were placed by a guy that he was about to sell the site to. Either he was trying to do some early promotion or he thought sabotaging the site would make it less valuable and would get a better price.

Long story short (too late, I know) he contacted the guy's host, since the links were hosted on his sites, and they made him take the links down. Site was going to be sold for $15k and he was about to threaten legal action - so the links all came down and I got the site at the great price since it was out of Google.

I've been following as Google has been re-indexing the guy's pages and finding that the links are no longer there - and my rankings are reflecting that. So, from my experience, I can definitely say that links CAN hurt you and you probably CAN sabotage your competition with bad links, but I've never done it. If you (not you, Kiril, just a general 'you') don't think that 15,000 scrapebox SPAM crap links will hurt you, then you should be my guest to use them and let my site pass you in the SERPS.

Just my experiences, other people might have different perpectives.

-Noah

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YasirYar

13 years ago

Originally Posted by noah.whitmore

I know that a lot of people argue about this back and forth. But, in my experience, links can hurt you.

I received an awesome niche site at an awesome price because someone sabotaged it with 15,000 low quality links at one time. The site was ranking #1 for three crazy keywords and hundreds of longtails. One day, the owner found his site completely gone after two years of consistently ranking. He checked Traffic Travis and found that 15,000 links has suddenly appeared on non-contrexual, crappy sites.

Turns out that the links were placed by a guy that he was about to sell the site to. Either he was trying to do some early promotion or he thought sabotaging the site would make it less valuable and would get a better price.

Long story short (too late, I know) he contacted the guy's host, since the links were hosted on his sites, and they made him take the links down. Site was going to be sold for $15k and he was about to threaten legal action - so the links all came down and I got the site at the great price since it was out of Google.

I've been following as Google has been re-indexing the guy's pages and finding that the links are no longer there - and my rankings are reflecting that. So, from my experience, I can definitely say that links CAN hurt you and you probably CAN sabotage your competition with bad links, but I've never done it. If you (not you, Kiril, just a general 'you') don't think that 15,000 scrapebox SPAM crap links will hurt you, then you should be my guest to use them and let my site pass you in the SERPS.

Just my experiences, other people might have different perpectives.

-Noah

True. I do understand a lot of people always say that if this were possible you could kill your competition, but in my experience, a ton of bad quality links to (especially) new domains can definitely put it in a problem.

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frogman 13 years ago

Yes, lot's of spammy links to a brand new site can definitely have an adverse affect.
Established domains are another story.

So yes, you can bring down your competitors if their site is brand new. But since most sites worth taking down are not brand new, it is seldom a real issue.
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alzack

13 years ago

I'm more careful with this now. A flux of sudden backlinks will certainly attract Google's attention. We don't want them to know or realize of our site the wrong way. Try to develop the site in a more natural fashion. For example, you can order a service of 100 backlinks once a week. Then followed by social book marking backlinks, maybe 100. Then the 3rd week, followed by article marketing backlinks... and so on. Step by step and not a flux of traffic. Better slowly reach #1 for the keyword than not reaching there at all.

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commoditytrainer

13 years ago

There is no way you can throw up 1 million backlinks, 2000 backlinks would get Google's attention. A rule to consider is Google likes natural building of links. What that means is has to be done by a person or human and there is not a human, doing it manually that can throw up 2000 backlinks, let alone 1 million.

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JSProjects

13 years ago

I thought it was common knowledge that the "100,000 backlinks" gigs on fiverr were junk. The only real use I could see for them is to help get other backlinks indexed.