STRAP IN- the Next Panda update is here and targets webspam and spinning.

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Thought some of you guys who don;t follow SEO news closely might want to know-

Google just posted its about to do another Panda update and that its aimed at webspam and spun content with links within unrelated text (looks a whole lot like what some SEO networks that got hit used to do)

Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: Another step to reward high-quality sites

Update this has already been pushed out

Google Launches Update Targeting Webspam In Search Results
#search engine optimization #days #panda #spinning #strap #targets #update #webspam
  • Profile picture of the author James-
    Thanks for highlighting this change Mike. I have just come back from the pub to notice a fairly significant amount of my sites have been dropped waaaay down in the SERPS and i had not done anything to them.

    I guess i am now paying the price for submitting spun articles with anchor text back to my sites.

    Oh well, onwards and upwards!
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  • Profile picture of the author jsherloc
    Hopefully this algo update also works on the 10+ methods/combos of "negative seo etc" we've seen currently being discussed on this forum and other major IM forums as well.

    Wonder if they'll slip some other changes in with this one that they won't release publicly hmm
  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Pretty much

    "While we can't divulge specific signals because we don't want to give people a way to game our search results and worsen the experience for users, our advice for webmasters is to focus on creating high quality sites that create a good user experience and employ white hat SEO methods instead of engaging in aggressive webspam tactics."

    Sounds like some new secret ingredients are being put into the sauce
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    • Profile picture of the author WareTime
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Pretty much

      "While we can't divulge specific signals because we don't want to give people a way to game our search results and worsen the experience for users, our advice for webmasters is to focus on creating high quality sites that create a good user experience and employ white hat SEO methods instead of engaging in aggressive webspam tactics."

      Sounds like some new secret ingredients are being put into the sauce
      That's the same thing they say every time. Of course they can't go into details.

      Did you see the episode of Gilligan's Island where the castaways were almost rescued, but Gilligan screwed it up?
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Yep...I just linked to this over in the thread below. Fingers crossed that they get it right and kill off lots of my crap competition.

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  • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
    Lost all 1st page rankings on my 10 authority adsense sites today. These did have quality content on them. Had 1000 word articles written by a high end writer, had video and other media on all pages. They were 20-50 pages in length. I did use spun content for backlinks so that's probably what did them in. F__K SEO. Im done.
  • Profile picture of the author bummed.out
    Forget waiting a few days. The rest of my sites that survived the previous Panda attacks have dropped to where search engine traffic probably won't find them. This has nothing to do with quality of content (I can write well, and did).

    Rather, I guess, it has to do with using a system for ranking that worked really well for a while and now does more harm than good. Sh*tballs. Still, Matt Cutts can go...ahh, forget it. I'm sure enough of you hit by this can finish that sentence for me.

    Well, time to do things differently.
  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Yes - although the report said days, Cutts just confirmed by twitter that the algo has now been pushed out.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    3%? haha, this one is gonna be bigger than Panda.
    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      3%? haha, this one is gonna be bigger than Panda.
      code number for 95% marketers and SEOs
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    Wow...I was always warned about spinning and quality content vs quantity content. Slow and steady and doing it right keeps on winning.
  • Profile picture of the author jsherloc
    Reading Google's posted examples of what they are looking for though, it seems to me that it would possibly BE EASIER to negatively affect websites by linking to them on spun garbage properties in that manner?

    The examples they give, someone could just spin unrelated articles into gibberish and then target their competitors website using optimized anchor text that the "target" site is clearly targeting, posting on tons of properties the same way en masse? Hope it doesn't actually make things worse and easier to go through negative seo processes, because it almost seems like it could based on those two examples and reading further into things lol...

    It's like Google says "Oh yeah guys, in the midst of a bunch of other ways people are actively abusing visible loopholes in our link-reliant algo, and doing this now in record numbers, here's two other specific examples that we are currently on a rampage looking for sites with these types of backlink patterns..."

    I'm pretty pessimistic about the whole thing though, so maybe I will be pleasantly surprised with the outcome of all this who knows...
  • Profile picture of the author footfoot
    Why is google so public about everything? I think they're spinning their wheels and getting desperate. Engaging in fear tactics more than actual substance.
  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
    WTF?

    Google makes no sense to me. Several of my authority sites just dropped out of the rankings.

    Apparently original and constant content is not the right answer.
    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      Apparently original and constant content is not the right answer.
      Content can be original and constant and still be no good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cash37
      Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      WTF?

      Google makes no sense to me. Several of my authority sites just dropped out of the rankings.

      Apparently original and constant content is not the right answer.
      Apparently they werent authority in G's eyes!

      I rely on referral traffic now primarily for my big sites. Anything from Google is just a drop in the bucket.
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    • Profile picture of the author Supafly
      QUOTE=babyfacedassassin

      "I just want to thank Google today for the best update yet. My thin affiliate sites are now on page one with only xrumer backlinks.

      I knew my Black Hat SEO would pay off one day and it has finally happened. I don't need good content to rank, heck I don't need any content to rank well today in Google.

      All you need is kindergarten knowledge of SEO. Pay someone a few bucks to blast 10,000 links or heck you might not even need those links. All you need to rank in this new crazy age is a domain name pointing to a blank page.

      Thank you Google for doing such a great job of creating an awesome user experience!"

      LMFAO
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    • Profile picture of the author ronmojohny
      Originally Posted by babyfacedassassin View Post

      I just want to thank Google today for the best update yet. My thin affiliate sites are now on page one with only xrumer backlinks.

      I knew my Black Hat SEO would pay off one day and it has finally happened. I don't need good content to rank, heck I don't need any content to rank well today in Google.

      All you need is kindergarten knowledge of SEO. Pay someone a few bucks to blast 10,000 links or heck you might not even need those links. All you need to rank in this new crazy age is a domain name pointing to a blank page.

      Thank you Google for doing such a great job of creating an awesome user experience!
      unfortunately, sites with those type of backlinks are being targeted next. (according to Dan Thies, who has been right on all of this all along)
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  • Profile picture of the author attorneydavid
    Panda hit longer tail search results that article directories and stuff were soaking up. This is hitting highly SEO'd results, ie those with commercia intent. This is going to be extremely negative for search for these terms since what's ranking now is going to be on average quite dated.

    I'm guessing this 3% will be as a practical matter the biggest change in search results ever.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    3% is a LOT of sites. It may not sound like much initially. But it's HUGE.

    Should be a "fun" next couple of days.
    • Profile picture of the author Thinking_man_too
      About 80% of my sites were hit hard.

      I do not use article submissions or own a text spinner. All my content was hand written.

      I research my niches and take a lot of time on each article no outsourcing ever.

      I will be curious to read the tea leaves once I see what others say here.
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  • Profile picture of the author jonathanleger
    ROFL! Search G for "new shoes" -- look who's #1:

    Interpretive Simulations - NewShoes - (Intro to Marketing, Marketing Principles)

    They have GOT to be kidding. Somebody needs to hit CTRL-Z over at the 'plex.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chambers
    Hello Ladies & Gentlemen,

    My sites took a massive nosedive today. All I can do is smile and laugh, this has happened before, and I will be back.

    As long as there is a system, it will be gamed.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
      Originally Posted by Chambers View Post

      Hello Ladies & Gentlemen,

      My sites took a massive nosedive today. All I can do is smile and laugh, this has happened before, and I will be back.

      As long as there is a system, it will be gamed.


      Sure, in time we will be able to game the system again - for a while. But if we're all spending 8 hours a day everyday just trying to keep up with Google's B.S. - then seriously, is it worth it?

      I don't know about you but I'm going into new online business models. Just don't think SEO is a viable long term business model anymore for your own website.

      Instead of trying to rank websites on Google let's try using 3rd party websites and rank those in Google.

      1. Want to rank for a "how to" keyword? Lets upload a kindle ebook onto
      Amazon and rank the Amazon page in Google - it's easy, takes less that a week usually.
      2. Wanna sell affiliate products? Make Youtube videos and rank those in Google - with backlinks it only takes a couple days to a week.
      3. Wanna start an Ecommerce business. Forget about building a website. Hook up with a dropshipper and then sell your products on Amazon.com using FBA (fulfillment by Amazon). And then build backlinks to your Amazon product page and get traffic from Google.
      4. Listbuilding

      And you know what? Google will never penalize Amazon.com or Youtube. Not going to happen.

      Google doesn't need us "little guys" anymore. They only want huge branded authority sites ranking in their search results. After all, it's a kickback for the millions these sites spend in Adwords.

      Lost all of my sites today too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chambers
      Originally Posted by mrultra View Post

      Not sure, but it looks at first glance like exact match domains have taken a hit too.
      the majority of my sites that tanked were EMD
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    • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
      Originally Posted by mrultra View Post

      Not sure, but it looks at first glance like exact match domains have taken a hit too.
      Pretty much all my sites that got hit were EMDs. I've noticed other EMDs that were on page 1 tiok a dive as well.

      Anyone else seeing similar things?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tania Shipman
      Originally Posted by mrultra View Post

      Not sure, but it looks at first glance like exact match domains have taken a hit too.
      My exact domain match went from top 10 to not even in top 100. It's recipes and information about my countertop convection oven with all original posts and pictures.

      Not even in top 100 anymore.

      Tania
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  • Profile picture of the author jonathanleger
    When searching for "bicycle wheels", you would expect 100% ecommerce sites that sell the wheels, right?

    Search G for "bicycle wheels" and you'll see:

    #1 - ecommerce site
    #2 - wikipedia entry for "bicycle wheel"
    #3 - ecommerce site
    #4 - ecommerce site
    #5 - A book at Amazon ("The Bicycle Wheel")
    #6 - ecommerce site
    #7 - ecommerce site for bicycle parts in general (the ranking page has nothing to do wih the wheels though)
    #8 - ecommerce page selling bicycle wheel stands -- not bicycle wheels
    #9 - ecommerce site
    #10 - page out of 1995 (literally) that has articles about bicycle wheels

    Very poor results indeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by jonathanleger View Post

      #1 - ecommerce site
      #2 - wikipedia entry for "bicycle wheel"
      #3 - ecommerce site
      #4 - ecommerce site
      #5 - A book at Amazon ("The Bicycle Wheel")
      #6 - ecommerce site
      #7 - ecommerce site for bicycle parts in general (the ranking page has nothing to do wih the wheels though)
      #8 - ecommerce page selling bicycle wheel stands -- not bicycle wheels
      #9 - ecommerce site
      #10 - page out of 1995 (literally) that has articles about bicycle wheels

      Very poor results indeed.
      I get shopping results above Wikipedia at 3
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    Check out Flippa. Lots of auctions are like deer caught in the headlights.
    • Profile picture of the author warrioraw
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      Check out Flippa. Lots of auctions are like deer caught in the headlights.
      Hehe, nice find.

      I've noticed one of our sites seems to be effected by this change. Not the whole site, just one keyword that I can see so far.

      As others have stated best wait a few days for all the changes to go through and see how you come out after that rather than panicking now.

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