Turning Xrumer Into an Evil Negative Seo Device

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Hi Guys.
Been reading the lastest posts about the recent google evils
and had a nasty idea on how to bring their whole evil penguin updage to turn
around and bite them in their a@ses.

A software like Xrumer(which i never used and do not endorse)
can be modified to be an EVIL automatic negative SEO generator.

Since google opened the gates of hell , why not play along and show them what a bright future their changes hold for the search results.

Xrumer can be modified to do the following:
1.Take a list of keywords in a given niche , let's say for example 100 words
on "blue widget" related.
2.The modified Xrumer takes one key word at a time from that list
and for each keyword it takes the top 10 results.
for each site on the top 10 it starts a link building process.
after it finishes "link building" the top 10 results it automatically moves to the next keyword on the list and does the same to the top 10 results.

Leave the software open until it finishes going over the entire keyword
list 100 words x 10 top result sites.

Naturally , eventually all top 10 sites for all the keywords in the list
will be penguined by google devestating the top results.

If every webmaster does this on almost every niche market, what would happen to google organic SEO LOL!
#device #evil #negative #seo #turning #xrumer
  • Profile picture of the author radivoj
    there is a guy on other IM forum who did case study regarding "negative seo" 6 weeks ago he did submitted over 500K backlink's to the site using single anchor with Xrumer and Scrapebox site is ranking #1 on Google for over a year and has PR 3, four weeks later site is still ranked #1 without ranking dropped and interesting thing site move from PR 3 to PR 4, so your question what would happen "will be penguined by google devestating the top results" it wouldn't happen anything...
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  • Profile picture of the author cheapstuff
    Bad backlinks don't negate your ranking. Instead the bad backlinks you created are worthless and someone who diversified their efforts would rank higher after a Google update or in general.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
    This software has been failed after the panda/penguin update. Never not use this on your money sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Ok, mixed responses here as to be expected.

    The only true fact is that nobody knows for certain if negative SEO really exists.

    If it does exist, how much of an effect can it give?

    In my opinion I strongly believe it is more about a mix between visitor satisfaction signals (bounce rates, page views, CTR from the SERPs, etc) and backlinks.

    I believe poor backlinks and negative SEO will only work to a certain extent if the visitor satisfaction is low.

    For example, you won't knock NASA.com off the map for the keyword "nasa" with negative SEO alone.

    But if the millions of people who regularly search "nasa" go to OTHER websites in the results other than nasa.com then we might see some change!
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  • Profile picture of the author seobuzz
    Negative SEO might kill the Google itself. It exist and has been proven in one of the IM forums.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankRumbauskas
    Negative SEO does indeed exist, I know because I've seen actual attacks with Xrumer blasts.

    Having said that, Negative SEO can go either way. You might obliterate your target, or you might rank him #1.

    So to me it's not worth it. If you are motivated enough to be unethical and do something as evil as Negative SEO, you're going to be doubly pissed off and angry if it backfires and you wind up ranking your target #1.

    And yes, spam garbage scrapebox type stuff still works for a time, I have plenty of "feeder" lead-gen type of sites that were ranked using spam and are still there. Some lost #1 after the last update but they're still in the top 5 and slowly climbing back up.
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    • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
      Originally Posted by FrankRumbauskas View Post

      Having said that, Negative SEO can go either way. You might obliterate your target, or you might rank him #1.
      Maybe if you are using some noob tactic like the one listed in the original post.

      You can completely wipe sites out of the SERP's with negative SEO that doesn't involve link building to a great extent.
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  • Profile picture of the author Make Money Ninja
    Negative SEO obviously exists. If i can get my own site a link penalty i can do it even easier to my competitors.

    There are certain sites that can't be tanked because they are so strong, but a weak domain can easily be tanked. I've done a case study myself.

    I refuse to do it though, it's bad form... and yes, ive been the victim of negative SEO attacks. Anyone who ranks #1 for a keyword that makes them $xxxx will testify that its just a matter of time before someone targets you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by Make Money Ninja View Post

      Negative SEO obviously exists. If i can get my own site a link penalty i can do it even easier to my competitors.

      There are certain sites that can't be tanked because they are so strong, but a weak domain can easily be tanked. I've done a case study myself.

      I refuse to do it though, it's bad form... and yes, ive been the victim of negative SEO attacks. Anyone who ranks #1 for a keyword that makes them will testify that its just a matter of time before someone targets you.
      True Dat

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      Site go BYE BYE....
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      • Profile picture of the author heavysm
        From the negative SEO studies I have seen the anchor text matters a lot. Sunken sites were hit with a lot of bad neighborhood keywords, everything from adult to illegal topics are used.

        Thinking in terms of simply using one anchor text is not enough to really drop a site, at least not the really established sites. But when upwards of a million links are pumped with nasty anchors, that's when the real evil begins. Suddenly the site has nothing but crap anchors from a ton of sites NO ONE wants to link to.
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  • Profile picture of the author tech84
    Xrumer as an Evil Negative Seo Device is expensive when compared to fiverr gigs.
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  • Profile picture of the author A P Geofrey
    I would say that negative SEO is completely worthless, since if you actually have such time to waste, why not instead put in that time and effort in some white hat ethical SEO for your sites, rather than engaging in some rat and mouse game big G

    No matter what happens, the bottom line is the results will only be temporal. Let's say you actually succeed, and your efforts knocks yuor competitor down a bit, this will only be beneficial to you if you are actually applying some white hat SEO methods to your own sites. If not, this doesn't benefit you at all.

    So now, the big question is why don't you just engage in some ethical SEO, and put all your efforts at it, for some long term and lasting results.

    I do not even want to talk about what will happend to you if your negative SEO efforts actually backfires and makes your comptitor even more asseting. Since this would mean that you worked your a** of for someone else.

    So sincerely, negative SEO as far s I see it has no place in the SEO world.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by A P Geofrey View Post

      I would say that negative SEO is completely worthless, since if you actually have such time to waste, why not instead put in that time and effort in some white hat ethical SEO for your sites, rather than engaging in some rat and mouse game big G

      No matter what happens, the bottom line is the results will only be temporal. Let's say you actually succeed, and your efforts knocks yuor competitor down a bit, this will only be beneficial to you if you are actually applying some white hat SEO methods to your own sites. If not, this doesn't benefit you at all.

      So now, the big question is why don't you just engage in some ethical SEO, and put all your efforts at it, for some long term and lasting results.

      I do not even want to talk about what will happend to you if your negative SEO efforts actually backfires and makes your comptitor even more asseting. Since this would mean that you worked your a** of for someone else.

      So sincerely, negative SEO as far s I see it has no place in the SEO world.
      Matt Cutts would be proud of you

      But the reality of it is. That's its their fault this subject is beginning to come to light in a big way.

      Applying algo and manual penalties to sites who link spam is great.
      Offering Webmasters the link disavow tool is also great.

      But Googles massive failing in this roll out is their "time to take action" when someone who has gone through the Disavow process, could only be described as an absolute disgrace. Leaving a site owner to do all of the bad link identifying themselves, presents a massive challenge to any site owner who is not well versed in link building. Leaving them running around forums like Warrior crying for help with cleaning, and paying up top $$$ for a job they have no way of measuring completion of.

      But the biggest disgrace on Google, is even after they do all the cleaning, disavow and reconsideration. Google then sits back and leaves them hanging for months on end in total darkness about when their respective sites and ranking will return.

      I honestly could not see any business who depends on Google traffic, being able to keep their business afloat while they sit on their hands waiting for someone in a Google office to click a button that removes the filtering.

      So in short.
      Negative SEO works, because Google are too damn slow in coming to the aid of any site under attack.
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      • Profile picture of the author cobwab
        Why not fight Google evil with evil SEO? Get is done on Fiverr. Serves Google right for destroying good websites with 100% unique content on many money-making websites. Is that evil or what? Fight back. It's only a robot and can be defeated with the right software.
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