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How to rank for the toughest kw in my niche-Help!

by ilovechinesefood
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Hey everybody,

Thanks for any help in advance. I'm going to try to keep this as short as possible. Basically, I have a site for a niche where im ranking really well. However, there's a keyword that I am unsure of how to rank better.

The keywords is: (niche)nyc. I am on the first page for niche in nyc but not niche nyc. My question is: How can i possibly find a way to get some anchor texts with niche nyc instead of niche in nyc. It's really hard to work in niche nyc into your anchor texts.

I'm on page 2 for niche nyc and I have seen my rankings jump quite a bit for that term as my site got more established and added more links. Is this my only way? Niche nyc just seems very unnatural as an anchor text and I am especially worried about using such an exact anchor text after penguin. Please let me know your thoughts.

Sorry if that was confusing. Thanks!
#nichehelp #rank #toughest
  • Profile picture of the author rabbikhan
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    • Profile picture of the author ilovechinesefood
      Originally Posted by rabbikhan View Post

      You can increase your rankings through guest posting because this is the only best method I have seen after the penguin update.
      Thanks, I do that a lot. My question is really the search term im trying to rank for. It's niche NYC . It doesnt make much sense putting that in an article since its not a complete thought, just a search term.

      For example (this is not my keyword just using this as an example): I want to rank for cleaning services nyc . Rather than cleaning services in nyc. Do you see what I mean how that would be hard to integrate cleaning services nyc into an article or whatnot?
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt.Lake
    Have you got the exact phrase "keyword nyc" actually in your on-page content?
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    • Profile picture of the author ilovechinesefood
      Originally Posted by Matt.Lake View Post

      Have you got the exact phrase "keyword nyc" actually in your on-page content?
      Sort of. I have words before it that also are associated with my kw. Does that count?

      I have an EMD-the kw I'm trying to rank for is the opposite. Going with the cleaning example I have:NYC cleaning service and I want to rank for cleaning service NYC. Will the EMD help? I apologize if that was confusing. Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt.Lake
        Originally Posted by ilovechinesefood View Post

        Sort of. I have words before it that also are associated with my kw. Does that count?

        I have an EMD-the kw I'm trying to rank for is the opposite. Going with the cleaning example I have:NYC cleaning service and I want to rank for cleaning service NYC. Will the EMD help? I apologize if that was confusing. Thanks
        I think the domain could help slightly for sure.

        So are you saying that you don't have the *exact* phrase "keyword nyc"?

        I would try and put that on your page if you can make it look natural.

        Other than that it will be more helpful if you can get backlinks with the anchor text "keyword nyc". You're obviously going for a very clean backlink profile so I appreciate it may be harder to use that anchor text naturally. However, I think it helps that your domain is the way it is...

        So for your backlinks you could have... for more information, visit is at Cleaning Service NYC today.

        I don't think that would be too unnatural at all considering your domain is the equivalent of NYCcleaningservice.com.

        Does that help?
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        • Profile picture of the author ilovechinesefood
          Originally Posted by Matt.Lake View Post

          I think the domain could help slightly for sure.

          So are you saying that you don't have the *exact* phrase "keyword nyc"?

          I would try and put that on your page if you can make it look natural.

          Other than that it will be more helpful if you can get backlinks with the anchor text "keyword nyc". You're obviously going for a very clean backlink profile so I appreciate it may be harder to use that anchor text naturally. However, I think it helps that your domain is the way it is...

          So for your backlinks you could have... for more information, visit is at Cleaning Service NYC today.

          I don't think that would be too unnatural at all considering your domain is the equivalent of NYCcleaningservice.com.

          Does that help?
          Hey, actually it does. I guess when you have a keyword that isn't a complete thought you have to get creative. You dont think using the keyword as you specified will be a red-flag for Google?
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          • Profile picture of the author Matt.Lake
            Originally Posted by ilovechinesefood View Post

            You dont think using the keyword as you specified will be a red-flag for Google?
            I personally don't, no.

            I would pay more attention to the source of the links and the amount of exact anchor text in general. i.e. make sure the links are from high quality sources and your overall anchor text isn't over-optimized.

            I wouldn't go over board using the keyword like I mentioned... just a handful of good quality links... and of course tighten up your on-page SEO to include the phrase as mentioned previously.
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