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Who would still use Seo hosting with different IPs

by seoed
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Hi,

what do you think? Is it too dangerous to use seo hosting with just one hoster?

The other solution can be very expensive....
#hosting #ips #seo
  • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
    Originally Posted by seoed View Post

    Hi,

    what do you think? Is it too dangerous to use seo hosting with just one hoster?

    The other solution can be very expensive....
    What is it that you're trying to accomplish?
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    I want to hear if anyone still relies on this technique or if it is regarded as too risky
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Risky...People have had sites deindexed from sharing the same box with too many other networks
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Google is a legal domain registrar. And they probably have access to C-Block buyer info.

    Having your site hosted by an SEO hosting company. Is outing yourself as an SEO.

    In Googles world, your site is not suppose to be SEO self aware.

    There is so many regular shared hosting to choose from. The mind boggles with the resellers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dead Body
    there is no seo host, google don't really check the ip of the server on which you are hosting your site.. reference Matt's blog.
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    • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
      Originally Posted by Dead Body View Post

      there is no seo host, google don't really check the ip of the server on which you are hosting your site.. reference Matt's blog.
      It's good to see more folks getting with the times here at WF. All that "SEO" and "C class" IP stuff is all nonsense. Google doesn't weight rankings on IP, and have said that many times. People keep throwing away money on that snake oil for no reason. It's the site itself that matters.

      And indeed, "SEO hosts" are targets for suspicion, for the reasons given.
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      • Profile picture of the author jasonbrien
        Yes, hosting your website on SEO hosting servers is not a real problem but it may be one of the negative reasons for your website. For me "Precaution is always better than cure".
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        • Profile picture of the author Ben Roy
          Please be careful whose advice you listen to.

          It is totally false that Google doesn't look at IPs, that there's no reason to host your sites separately, etc. I almost didn't respond because I guess the more people who don't have a clue, the easier it is for the rest of us. But I just don't do well with bad info floating around.

          There are many, many successful SEOs running networks and sites across lots of IPs and getting killer results.

          Yes, in general what almost all SEO hosting companies out there are doing right now is dangerous. It's relatively easy to infiltrate them, easy to figure out what their IP blocks are, and easy to take down your sites.

          This is NOT universally true. There are a couple of situations that still exist where you can SEO host and not run into these issues. The first is extremely complicated and expensive and requires a great relationship with a host (or finding someone that will go to crazy lengths to set up lots of IPs just for you).

          The other I can't link you to, but there is a newer SEO hosting setup that avoids the problems of the previous generation of hosts.

          Of course there is the possibility of just signing up for tons of hosting accounts with different hosts. It's a lot of work and can get expensive, but it works.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by kpmedia View Post

        It's good to see more folks getting with the times here at WF. All that "SEO" and "C class" IP stuff is all nonsense. Google doesn't weight rankings on IP, .

        You parrot the same nonsense in every hosting thread and you are corrected in every thread. No one believes that Google weights ranking on IP. Separate hosts are used for protection not weighted rankings. You've been corrected on this so often that implying anyone does is just now simply lying.

        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Yeah, because nobody uses anchor text links with keywords in them anywhere on the internet... You'll stick out like a sore thumb that way... :rolleyes:
        Plus no one in the know links to all the same sites from their entire network (some even link to well known non money site sites to interfere with any pattern).

        But people who don't know anything about the subject just keep on as if they do :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    The IPs are one footprint - but an even bigger worry should be the optimized anchor text. That's a dead giveaway.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

      The IPs are one footprint - but an even bigger worry should be the optimized anchor text. That's a dead giveaway.
      Yeah, because nobody uses anchor text links with keywords in them anywhere on the internet... You'll stick out like a sore thumb that way... :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

      The IPs are one footprint - but an even bigger worry should be the optimized anchor text. That's a dead giveaway.
      Lol you read that in a thread or post from yesterday somewhere same like I did.

      It's definitely not a dead giveaway but it's certainly something we have to be more careful with, but that's nothing new since Penguin 1.0 in April 2012.
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      • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Lol you read that in a thread or post from yesterday somewhere same like I did.

        It's definitely not a dead giveaway but it's certainly something we have to be more careful with, but that's nothing new since Penguin 1.0 in April 2012.
        After reading the latest updates to the 'link schemes' section of the Google Guideline it appears they've change their wording to 'optimized anchor text.'

        If you think about it, that's a game changer. The optimized links themselves can now be considered a signal of low quality. Link with exact anchor is not the surefire rankings increase tactic it used to be. In fact, it could blow your face off!
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

          If you think about it, that's a game changer. The optimized links themselves can now be considered a signal of low quality. Link with exact anchor is not the surefire rankings increase tactic it used to be. In fact, it could blow your face off!
          At some point you ought to take the time to learn some modern SEO. I know of no professional SEO that does this

          "Links with optimized anchor text in articles or press releases distributed on other sites.

          For example:
          There are many wedding rings on the market. If you want to have a wedding, you will have to pick the best ring. You will also need to buy flowers and a wedding dress."

          This is no game changer not for any non spamming SEO. Doing that and distributing it to article and press release sites (which is what the update of the guidelines actually says not all anchor text :rolleyes: as you erroneously imply) has been spammy for the last two years. Furthermore variation in your anchor text link profile has been so widely known that even spamming tools already vary the anchor text automatically.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOlover
    Aseohosting is a decent SEO hosting provider with affordable prices and high uptime. Plus they have active live chat.
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