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even high PR, low OBL comments have no value?

by bestrevenueshare
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lately I made few comments on pages that have actual PR 4-5 (the page not domain) do follow and has small amount of other comments, Google webmaster tool showing the links but no impact on SERP, but I really expected significant boost.
#comments #high #low #obl
  • Profile picture of the author online only
    Blog comments are not real backlinks. Think about it. Google wants you to have natural links. Is it natural to build links via blog comments - nope. If someone finds your site useful he/she will link to it through his/hers blog post, resource page etc..

    He/she will never start blog commenting with your awesome page
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    • Profile picture of the author BrianMI
      Originally Posted by online only View Post

      Blog comments are not real backlinks. Think about it. Google wants you to have natural links. Is it natural to build links via blog comments - nope. If someone finds your site useful he/she will link to it through his/hers blog post, resource page etc..

      He/she will never start blog commenting with your awesome page
      I disagree. I've commented on different blogs many many times and have used links to point to a resource that would be helpful either in response to a different commenter or in relation to the subject itself.

      In fact, in a previous post that I did here on WF today, I pointed someone to a blog called hxxp://PhotographyForRealEstate.net . I can see myself doing the same thing if the same topic had come up on a blog instead of a forum.

      Furthermore, as to this whole "links from relevant sites are the only links that count" thing is a joke. There has to be some balance to this concept. In the previous post that I just mentioned, I posted a link to that real estate photography site because the original poster was asking advice on how to get going SEO'ing his local photography site.

      This site is about internet marketing but the post stream naturally drew out a link from me to a photography blog. In theory, since this internet marketing site is NOT a photography site, the link I left should actually count AGAINST that photography blog. This makes no sense as the particular post WAS about photography though in the context of building a website. The link should count...at least if it's do-follow...which I doubt as it's here on Warrior Forum.

      In fact, the link is posted AGAIN here in this thread and guess what? It fits into the flow of this post...at least it does from my perspective. It should count here too.
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    • Profile picture of the author jadhavchetu
      Originally Posted by online only View Post

      Blog comments are not real backlinks. Think about it. Google wants you to have natural links. Is it natural to build links via blog comments - nope. If someone finds your site useful he/she will link to it through his/hers blog post, resource page etc..

      He/she will never start blog commenting with your awesome page
      Then What is other way to build natural backlink? Guest Posting??
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      • Profile picture of the author affilliate-script
        Originally Posted by jadhavchetu View Post

        Then What is other way to build natural backlink? Guest Posting??

        bloggingunderground.com - costs a lot ($67 a month) but you get to manually post in-content keyword hyperlinks in your own posts on their network of wordpress blog sites

        I used to do it, but its a manual process, and got bored and quit
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          How do you know they are not "working" for SERPS?

          Perhaps without it, you might rank even lower...

          There's no way anyone could ever say this is THE link.

          There is no magic wand either, no matter what people say.

          You can't get links, then say, okay, now I KNOW I will rank
          higher! That's insane, but a clue as to some of the
          thinking that goes around here.

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          • Profile picture of the author Slin
            Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

            How do you know they are not "working" for SERPS?

            Perhaps without it, you might rank even lower...

            There's no way anyone could ever say this is THE link.

            There is no magic wand either, no matter what people say.

            You can't get links, then say, okay, now I KNOW I will rank
            higher! That's insane, but a clue as to some of the
            thinking that goes around here.

            Paul
            Exactly, how long have you waited for them to make any effect? What kind of anchor's did you use for the link? How do you know the real PR of the site? Where the links contextual?

            Seems like we are assuming a lot just from a few small little posts.

            I'd say test around a bit more, than come back and report.
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  • Profile picture of the author bestrevenueshare
    yep that is true, I also feel like that way but the another part about natural link building 95% webmasters does not do that.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      I did high PR blog comments with few OBL about 2 years ago, back then it worked reasonably well, not long after it lost it's strength though and then I quit using them.

      Thing is that those comments never lasted very long, most got cleaned up by webmasters. I got those from some list back then that was obvious widely sold online, but even while they lasted it didn't give the desired "ranking" benefit.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I don't agree that blog comments aren't real links, either the link shows up as a followed link on the backlink page Google Cache (text version) or it doesn't. Check the Cache, prove the link actually exist. If it's really a high PR backlink page it will usually be re-cached often.

    The problem with comment links is pissing off webmasters enough that they delete the link. It's better to communicate with the webmaster & negotiate a link on their site/page so your both happy.
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    • Profile picture of the author LloydMS
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      I don't agree that blog comments aren't real links, either the link shows up as a followed link on the backlink page Google Cache (text version) or it doesn't. Check the Cache, prove the link actually exist. If it's really a high PR backlink page it will usually be re-cached often.

      The problem with comment links is pissing off webmasters enough that they delete the link. It's better to communicate with the webmaster & negotiate a link on their site/page so your both happy.
      I agree completely. There is still value to high PR RELEVANT links on blog pages. You just need to truly make a comment - one that is relevant to the post and offers some type of insight signifying that you clearly read the post and aren't 100% spamming. No guarantee the comment will stick but if it does, there's some value. Even if there's not a ton of value, it still helps with diversifying your anchor text if done properly.

      And as far as these providing "significant" ranking boosts, obviously there are so many other factors both on and off page that impact rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    Originally Posted by bestrevenueshare View Post

    lately I made few comments on pages that have actual PR 4-5 (the page not domain) do follow and has small amount of other comments, Google webmaster tool showing the links but no impact on SERP, but I really expected significant boost.
    They should be from REALLY related and GOOD blogs... Otherwise, just a waste of time!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by abuzar View Post

      Blog Comments work if they are dofollow and low obl.

      Then why spam nofollow links in your sig?
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by abuzar View Post

      Blog Comments work if they are dofollow and low obl.
      Care to explain why the OP got no boost in rankings when they did this?
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Originally Posted by bestrevenueshare View Post

    lately I made few comments on pages that have actual PR 4-5 (the page not domain) do follow and has small amount of other comments, Google webmaster tool showing the links but no impact on SERP, but I really expected significant boost.
    I find comment links to not pass a lot of link juice.

    Probably a good idea would be to get relevant links from within the content instead of from the comments area.

    Also, PR is a small part of the puzzle now. If the host website has tons of spammy links pointed to it, it probably won't send you a lot of link juice anyways even if it has a high PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    I finally gave up doing blog comments as I never saw any benefit from doing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author dotgirish
    Blog comments works well in terms of traffic , if done correctly. It use to be working well for ranking too, but there is a huge risk of getting them deleted if you try to spam this method. It trigger negative link velocity and it will impact your ranking badly.
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  • Profile picture of the author easypr
    I agree with online only and dotgirish, that blog commenting is not much help these days. They are only helpful to increase the website traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author lkears11
    It is hard work to find relevant blogs, and I agree that the return is not great. But a link is link.
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  • Profile picture of the author danparks
    Originally Posted by bestrevenueshare View Post

    lately I made few comments on pages that have actual PR 4-5 (the page not domain) do follow and has small amount of other comments, Google webmaster tool showing the links but no impact on SERP, but I really expected significant boost.
    I agree with the vast majority here who are saying blog comments have little effect on SERPs.

    What they CAN be worthwhile for, though, is direct traffic. If you put a real, worthwhile comment on a relevant post that gets traffic, and the comment can include a link to your site, you can possibly see some traffic from it. I know that from experience. I'm not much for creating sites for myself, I do SEO for other peoples' sites. But over the years I've had a couple of my own sites. And on one site, I made quite a few sales from visitors who arrived directly from one particular blog comment. It was on a very popular, relevant site, and the comment was informative and not a sales pitch.

    But again, that's just claiming blog commenting might help for direct traffic. I don't believe it (or any other comments) did anything for SERPs for my site. And I believe that lately that's true more than ever (might have had some SERPs power a couple of years back, but not now).
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    Originally Posted by bestrevenueshare View Post

    lately I made few comments on pages that have actual PR 4-5 (the page not domain) do follow and has small amount of other comments, Google webmaster tool showing the links but no impact on SERP, but I really expected significant boost.
    When you say "lately", how many days ago did you get those comments? What anchor text did you use? Where did you send them - home page or internal pages?
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