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A problem most people wish they had...

by 102beano
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I have a problem that is good and bad... and I am guessing that most of you wish you had it.
I am a technical moron... yup, at age 70 I simply cannot do the simple things that most of you guys take for granted.
Now that, by itself is not a problem... but this is... I just shut down a business which was earning VERY good money to move back to the States.
I took a long vacation knowing that I would have to revamp it if I ever chose to reopen the business and do the same thing.
I became bored and reopened it ( well, almost ) with a few twists and am finding that I need help with the technical stuff.
I have a website, a product funnel, a sales person for the high buck upsells ( including me ) and anticipating that our clients will want to retain us monthly ... because that I what I did before.
Here is the problem... I am almost 70, I have already said that I do not want to handle ( nor can I ) the technical stuff of the business. I want someone else to handle it but I want them to be an equity partner IF they have the interest, the drive and can see exactly what we are doing and where we are headed.

If there is anyone out there that has an interest... let me know. I don't want your money... I have products and we are 99% of the way there... AND I have a past track record.
Let me know what you can bring to the table ( basic Wordpress and email marketing background, videos, etc would be a basic start ) and if you want a chance to step into something which has a damn good chance of making VERY good money ( it did before ). I honestly dont want to work THAT many hours a week nor do I want to do it all over again without help and the fun that goes along with creating something.
Want to know more... let me know.
thanks for reading.
Randy b.
#people #problem
  • Profile picture of the author xlightwaverx
    Originally Posted by 102beano View Post

    I have a problem that is good and bad... and I am guessing that most of you wish you had it.
    I am a technical moron... yup, at age 70 I simply cannot do the simple things that most of you guys take for granted.
    Now that, by itself is not a problem... but this is... I just shut down a business which was earning VERY good money to move back to the States.
    I took a long vacation knowing that I would have to revamp it if I ever chose to reopen the business and do the same thing.
    I became bored and reopened it ( well, almost ) with a few twists and am finding that I need help with the technical stuff.
    I have a website, a product funnel, a sales person for the high buck upsells ( including me ) and anticipating that our clients will want to retain us monthly ... because that I what I did before.
    Here is the problem... I am almost 70, I have already said that I do not want to handle ( nor can I ) the technical stuff of the business. I want someone else to handle it but I want them to be an equity partner IF they have the interest, the drive and can see exactly what we are doing and where we are headed.

    If there is anyone out there that has an interest... let me know. I don't want your money... I have products and we are 99% of the way there... AND I have a past track record.
    Let me know what you can bring to the table ( basic Wordpress and email marketing background, videos, etc would be a basic start ) and if you want a chance to step into something which has a damn good chance of making VERY good money ( it did before ). I honestly dont want to work THAT many hours a week nor do I want to do it all over again without help and the fun that goes along with creating something.
    Want to know more... let me know.
    thanks for reading.
    Randy b.
    I work too many hours a week so I hear you there, but I like getting involved and helping people out. I run a web hosting business so as for the technical side of things, that's not an issue. Utilizing WordPress, well that comes with the job as its the most popular CMS ATM. Let me know if you need anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author 102beano
      thanks, will do...
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
    Hey Randy,

    I will chime in here just to try to be helpful.
    (NOTE I am NOT applying lol, just trying to get you there faster).
    Lets be frank this is not a problem most people wish they had.

    The person you are looking for that can actually make this happen is a rare find simply because in the end you do NOT want anything technical, you want sales/conversions and it just happens that part of that is technical. I am sure you already know this and you already know you will get mechanics applying.

    The other reason this person is a rare find is the deal likely won't make any sense to the person who could pull this off. Your definition of 99% there and theirs will be at odds. Your entire funnel and site may be all wrong. Things may be totally different in that marketplace now. You may simply not have the cash budget required to make this fly and so many other factors that may make it seem as though you are 99% there but in fact you are not.

    Your claim your not asking for money is not accurate, time is money. In the same time of working on this to maybe make bank the same person can get a 25k retainer somewhere else and make ongoing revenue once its off the ground or go into a deal where they are actually making real money every single day and are willing to share a cut of the increased sales paid directly to bank account at checkout. So you are really seeking an investor with skills to build online businesses and what he has to go on is you once did this succesfully (and probably worked your ass off) but now you want to work less.... So I think you can see the disconnects.

    The first thing the right guy will do is look at every thread you ever started here. Have you done that by the way? It is really enlightening in where you have been, where you are etc.. Anyway in your case I see since 2012, an ongoing search for online knowledge, online mechanics etc.. I would have to ask myself if your partnership offers are valuable why then if you have been in this game since 2012 you don't have many people you know that would jump at the chance to work with you on this. I know half a dozen people that if I emailed them and said I have an idea, but I need a partner, they would halt what they are doing and work with me. Not because I am so great lol but because of previous shared experience and trust based on those experiences.

    NOW BEFORE YOU WANT TO PUNCH ME IN THE FACE... I am not saying you are not an awesome guy to work with or that someone could not make a killing with you,

    I am saying the items above are concerns and will cause the right people to not likely even bother responding. You will get web guys that will contact you and the conversation will be about how much you will pay them right now.

    The way I see it there are two choices. If you can address the items above in a favorable manner then time for a new write up. If you cannot address them in a favorable manner, in other words look at it from a cold business reality and realize that holy shit you want an A lister to work for free on the hopes one day you can make money together and that frankly the chances are as good as gun reform in the USA then maybe you need to come up with a much more attractive offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author 102beano
      Peter... you have some valid points but you are making one heckuva lot of assumptions about me. First, I was involved in another business IN ANOTHER COUNTRY for the past 12 years... so no, I do not have a track record here.
      Secondly... I am not concerned with conversions simply because I know how to get them myself. i do need technical help and am willing to pay to get it, which I have been doing. It is the bad communication and the assumptions and the outsourcers that are from different backgrounds that invariably cause problems. at least for me.
      I anticipate things based on the past ... do I know for certain that they will be the same in the future? Of course not.
      And as for you saying that my way of looking at things may not be the same as others, of course you are right... and I hope that I encounter that situation... but you will admit that I might be right just as often as the next person. the main criteria here is whether or not i am willing to listen and be open, right? i say I will, you say maybe... but we will never know until it happens.
      will people respond? hell, I dont know. If they are curious they will and they will get details and we will talk... that is the only way I know that things happen and evolve.

      I appreciate you paying devil's advocate and at age 70 I may have been around a few more blocks than you... but maybe not. either way, thanks for the letter and yes, you did bring up some valid points,... some, but definitely not all. And I appreciate it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
        Originally Posted by 102beano View Post

        Peter... you have some valid points but you are making one heckuva lot of assumptions about me. First, I was involved in another business IN ANOTHER COUNTRY for the past 12 years... so no, I do not have a track record here.
        Secondly... I am not concerned with conversions simply because I know how to get them myself. i do need technical help and am willing to pay to get it, which I have been doing. It is the bad communication and the assumptions and the outsourcers that are from different backgrounds that invariably cause problems. at least for me.
        I anticipate things based on the past ... do I know for certain that they will be the same in the future? Of course not.
        And as for you saying that my way of looking at things may not be the same as others, of course you are right... and I hope that I encounter that situation... but you will admit that I might be right just as often as the next person. the main criteria here is whether or not i am willing to listen and be open, right? i say I will, you say maybe... but we will never know until it happens.
        will people respond? hell, I dont know. If they are curious they will and they will get details and we will talk... that is the only way I know that things happen and evolve.

        I appreciate you paying devil's advocate and at age 70 I may have been around a few more blocks than you... but maybe not. either way, thanks for the letter and yes, you did bring up some valid points,... some, but definitely not all. And I appreciate it.
        Just to be clear I am NOT making any assumptions about you specifically. I am dealing with the copy of your post and the questions they raise and my response is only to try to help you accomplish your goal. As an example you just said "I am willing to pay to get it." but your initial post suggest the exact opposite when you say "I don't want your money"implying you want time investment. Your response to me does a great job of clearing up a few things and that is what I was trying to get at.

        I have seen this situation a hundred times and again in your response to me you did a great job in further detailing what the real problem is and that is what I was trying to get out of you for your own benefit.

        There is always a disconnect between the idea guy and the technical folks. It is easy to think just need better technical folks when the truth is you need another idea guy with technical skills that using tech folks working for him but he knows how to speak their language and get what is needed.

        In regards to being around the block more, everybody has skills and experiences that are unique and to me its not a competition or pissing match and the value of what they have to offer is rarely related to age. I learn things from my kids all the time and shake my head at some people that remain rude, petty and clueless while they are pushing their walker through the mall. From what I have seen of your writing you are obviously experienced and intellectual so again I was just trying to squeeze out some clarity.

        Should anyone listen to what I have to say?
        At 47 I have worked for 3 fortune 500's then started a consultancy that is still going strong after 15 years solving complex online marketing problems with a client base that often topped over 1,000 real offline businesses. I then chose to scale down to high dollar value clients and enjoy life a bit more and go totally virtual. On the technical I have built custom software solutions that still run some pretty big businesses to this day and managed large projects with teams on several continents. I have also handled in the tens of millions in online marketing campaigns over this time.

        Much more important than my technical/business skills is I was either smart enough or lucky enough to marry the most amazing woman that turned me from a know it all testoserone based prick to someone that learns and listens and realizes if he thinks he is absolutely right he is probably wrong ;-)

        I built and ran this entire business, all the while raising 6 kids, and did it in a way that they all still like me and not one can ever remember a time i was not there. Today they all have a clue, and the last two are now in college (again here I will give the lions share of credit to my wife). I also figured out some way maybe through dumb luck to still have a wife that would rather spend time with me than anyone else.

        So in short, yeah I have some mileage and have made the best of it BUT because I know how stupidly lucky I am I will stick my face in a thread, say some hard stuff to try to help and if I get slapped for it, oh well....
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  • Profile picture of the author 102beano
    Thanks, Peter... that was VERY helpful and the second email cleared up a lot of things for me as well. appreciate your time and input.
    RB.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    Why not hire a VA? Starting pay is like $1.80/hour. However, in your case you need someone with specific skills and would pay a bit more. It doesn't sound like you need someone full-time, so even if you are paying more, it will still be cheaper in the long run if everything takes off.

    You could also hire someone on a per job basis from freelancer sites.

    Just my thoughts, as I don't like having partners and I like keeping expenses as low as possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author 102beano
      Diablo... have been the VA route, language barrier was a problem... Freelancers are what I have been doing and most are adequate but the Clickbank setup was a nightmare for two out of three of them. Most will lie about their experience and set me back more time and completely botch things up. It is difficult to find someone decent.
      Thanks for the feedback. Guess it is just trial and error for the meantime.
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  • Profile picture of the author skreenpad
    Originally Posted by 102beano View Post

    I have a problem that is good and bad... and I am guessing that most of you wish you had it.
    I am a technical moron... yup, at age 70 I simply cannot do the simple things that most of you guys take for granted.
    Now that, by itself is not a problem... but this is... I just shut down a business which was earning VERY good money to move back to the States.
    I took a long vacation knowing that I would have to revamp it if I ever chose to reopen the business and do the same thing.
    I became bored and reopened it ( well, almost ) with a few twists and am finding that I need help with the technical stuff.
    I have a website, a product funnel, a sales person for the high buck upsells ( including me ) and anticipating that our clients will want to retain us monthly ... because that I what I did before.
    Here is the problem... I am almost 70, I have already said that I do not want to handle ( nor can I ) the technical stuff of the business. I want someone else to handle it but I want them to be an equity partner IF they have the interest, the drive and can see exactly what we are doing and where we are headed.

    If there is anyone out there that has an interest... let me know. I don't want your money... I have products and we are 99% of the way there... AND I have a past track record.
    Let me know what you can bring to the table ( basic Wordpress and email marketing background, videos, etc would be a basic start ) and if you want a chance to step into something which has a damn good chance of making VERY good money ( it did before ). I honestly dont want to work THAT many hours a week nor do I want to do it all over again without help and the fun that goes along with creating something.
    Want to know more... let me know.
    thanks for reading.
    Randy b.
    Im interested can we have a quick chat on skype? plz pm me your skype id
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave37
    I have just sent you a PM!
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    • Profile picture of the author 102beano
      responded in JV column but if you could send your email address I can forward you a copy of my book. thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Manish Sapkota
    Interested. My email id is manishsapkota22@gmail.com
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