by Bruha
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Anyone seeing a comeback for **** berry products?

My **** sites and sales died for like 2 months, now all of a sudden I'm getting sales again.

Just wondering if maybe I was google slapped and that was the reason for my sales decline or if there was a down turn in the **** market and now it is coming back.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheAnnoyingOrange
    Originally Posted by Bruha View Post

    Anyone seeing a comeback for **** berry products?

    My **** sites and sales died for like 2 months, now all of a sudden I'm getting sales again.

    Just wondering if maybe I was google slapped and that was the reason for my sales decline or if there was a down turn in the **** market and now it is coming back.
    Use your tracking software (I hope to god you have it installed on your server) to figure out where the traffic is coming from and rinse/repeat whatever you did to get that traffic.

    Best of Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author WyzoMarketing
    I doubt they're coming back. Take a look at GTrends! Too much negative marketing against **** products. But there will always be alternatives It's an evergreen niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sleaklight
    You need to get on the maqui berry bandwagon. It's doing great right now: Google Trends: maqui
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    • Profile picture of the author Sleaklight
      Originally Posted by dremora View Post

      **** is a dead niche, they are selling **** juice even at the gas station corner stores.
      I would not necessarily call it dead. If you're a good marketer, you will find a way to sell it and keep it converting.
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
      Originally Posted by dremora View Post

      **** is a dead niche, they are selling **** juice even at the gas station corner stores.
      If they are selling it at the gas station how does that make it dead? That just tells me it's the opposite of dead, because it's in enough demand for health stores and gas stations to be selling it.

      Many people don't want to have to spend the money and time to buy the stuff from the gas station every day. Alot of people would rather buy a bottle or two over the Internet and have it delivered to their house!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

        If they are selling it at the gas station how does that make it dead? That just tells me it's the opposite of dead, because it's in enough demand for health stores and gas stations to be selling it.

        Many people don't want to have to spend the money and time to buy the stuff from the gas station every day. Alot of people would rather buy a bottle or two over the Internet and have it delivered to their house!


        You are correct. If its still out there, then its not dead. People are still doing big numbers with ****. Put it this way...if there are stillacai offers on networks, then I can guarantee there are many people doing huge numbers with it. Its when offers leave the networks that indicates the offer is dieing...and even then there are probably still people doing great going direct with the merchant.


        **** is still selling and until another huge fad comes along, its not going anywhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author andreblamads
      Originally Posted by dremora View Post

      **** is a dead niche, they are selling **** juice even at the gas station corner stores.
      So true, it's all over my neighborhood.
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  • Profile picture of the author wpiercy
    In the last 2 months there has been momentum gaining in this niche. We are seeing a comeback, new products, big epc's, new advertisers and old ones coming back. Low quality traffic converting at 3-4% and high quality into the high teens. The new advertisers are being a bit more cautious, initially setting low caps, making sure the offers are backing out for them, even prepaying some of the networks to make sure no one is getting burnt.

    It may never be as big as it was, but there is definitely people hitting it hard again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Yes wpiercy...i think the offer hasnt died significantly, its more the traffic sources that were hot have been increasingly more difficult to promote the offer along with merchants having to re-work offers to abide by FTC guidelines which has lwoered conversion a bit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruha
    I am getting good traffic to this niche, but not super great conversions. I am using a blog format for my sites now, can I change to a different format or will google not like me if I go from a blogging platform to a more traditional site. Still using WP of course. Basically, I would just make the home page static and still add content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christie01
    This was top headline news on my MSNBC home page this morning: **** berry scam: You'll lose money, not weight
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    • Profile picture of the author Jenni Mac
      I'm not convinced the **** market is dead - I have a couple of sites that I haven't touched for about 8 months and I notice in one of my CPA acounts some sales over the past two months.

      To my mind it doesn't matter what common sense or the news tells them, there are always people who are willing to buy into the dream and just input their credit card info!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by Jenni Mac View Post

        I'm not convinced the **** market is dead - I have a couple of sites that I haven't touched for about 8 months and I notice in one of my CPA acounts some sales over the past two months.

        To my mind it doesn't matter what common sense or the news tells them, there are always people who are willing to buy into the dream and just input their credit card info!

        The problem is that its not just common sense because a lot of CPAers are doing very deceptive and shady stuff.

        Setting up a website designed like a news site and titled Channel4News.com and then having a cover story about the **** scam and then telling people Channel 4 News did a review and found a legit **** trial when in fact it is another shady rebill.

        Even common sense upon entering a site like this would make it seem legit. Its this deceptive crap that bothers me!

        Dont get me wrong, there are some good rebills out there, but this type of marketing practice urks me.

        Rant, my bad!



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        • Profile picture of the author Jenni Mac
          100% agree with you there Kenster! I've never done Flogs or anything like them.

          You think with the crack down that marketers would be more careful about what they're putting out there - not to mention the moral element here.

          A few months ago with some offers, you had to agree to the TOS of some of the particular offers and some of them said a big fat NO to flogs. If you were caught using them to promote the offer you'd lose your $$$!

          But what I will say is that RFT are still, for me anyway, a legit way to make my money and while I can find offers that I believe I can promote within the two networks that I'm signed up to, I'll still promote them in a way that sits right with me and the networks.

          Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

          The problem is that its not just common sense because a lot of CPAers are doing very deceptive and shady stuff.

          Setting up a website designed like a news site and titled Channel4News.com and then having a cover story about the **** scam and then telling people Channel 4 News did a review and found a legit **** trial when in fact it is another shady rebill.

          Even common sense upon entering a site like this would make it seem legit. Its this deceptive crap that bothers me!

          Dont get me wrong, there are some good rebills out there, but this type of marketing practice urks me.

          Rant, my bad!



          ~ken
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          • Profile picture of the author Cash37
            **** is dead. But it will be remixed soon as people can get their merchant accounts back. Look for Pomegranate and Maqui products to blow up next year
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            • Profile picture of the author Kenster
              Originally Posted by Cash37 View Post

              **** is dead. But it will be remixed soon as people can get their merchant accounts back. Look for Pomegranate and Maqui products to blow up next year

              I think Maqui may blow out as well but know that **** isnt dead . Plenty of marketers are still doing big numbers. Maybe not the 20k a day like last year, but still nice money to be had!

              But it will inevitably fade out. Watching Oprah as we speak...she will probably determine the next product!

              haha, Ken
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      • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
        Originally Posted by Jenni Mac View Post

        To my mind it doesn't matter what common sense or the news tells them, there are always people who are willing to buy into the dream and just input their credit card info!
        This is sooo true Jenni Mac people don't even realize. This is exactly why "Make money at home processing rebates" or "filling out surveys" will ALWAYS sell even when people know it's pure B.S.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert_Rand
      Originally Posted by Christie01 View Post

      This was top headline news on my MSNBC home page this morning: **** berry scam: You'll lose money, not weight
      wow, reading that and some of the comments was A+ entertainment
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  • Profile picture of the author cashmagnet
    Go for the steady conversions on **** and the fast flow on maqui simple
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Yes....


    I literally just had a family member (very smart guy) "fall" for one of the fake **** berry news sites.

    When emotions cloud logic, people do very stupid things. When you add a dose of deceptive marketing practice in their, smart people do really stubid things.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanEagle
    We have a gang of offers in EWA and they're really moving quick again... if you can find good traffic sources for it (like PPV) and can react quickly to EPC drops and bumps then you can rein supreme.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikekimm
    Not sure if its a comeback or people just listen to the wrong people but **** has been rocking hard since Nov 2008 and isnt going anywhere. Its just that those who were in it for a long time have cemented their place and its hard to break in to it now.

    However with that said there is a new Niche which will be blowing the **** niche away. Those networks pushing ringtones, **** or other old niches just dont know whats new and hot. Think Penny and ipads.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

      There will always be someone making a killing in a niche that's supposedly "dead". Unless, of course, the FTC steps in and shuts everything down completely.


      So true...though some people would inevitably still find ways to run the offer



      Originally Posted by mikekimm View Post

      Not sure if its a comeback or people just listen to the wrong people but **** has been rocking hard since Nov 2008 and isnt going anywhere. Its just that those who were in it for a long time have cemented their place and its hard to break in to it now.

      However with that said there is a new Niche which will be blowing the **** niche away. Those networks pushing ringtones, **** or other old niches just dont know whats new and hot. Think Penny and ipads.


      Thats a great point. Back two years ago the offer was soo hot that you can literally monetize any and all traffic sources and web spaces and make crazy bank. Now that many traffic sources have strapped down and made the **** offers (and trial offers) tougher to promote, this has limited the numbers of places and ways to promote the offers. Demand has also diminished substantially compared to the height but is still very much there...mostly because nothing insanely huge has replaced it yet.

      Further as Mike points out, some of the bigger players have dominated certain traffic paths which has made it harder to break into.

      So I guess the conclusion is that **** is still selling, people are still making bank, but its much more difficult. Granted, no shocking conclusion there!


      I think marketers should be doing is building strategies or web properties NOW with the sole intent of monetizing in the future when the next **** or fad diet explodes. Set yourself up now so when the time comes, you can monetize the freak out of it just like people were doing with ****!

      ~ken
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