by max5ty
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A little free time this morning so I thought I'd mention something...

a lot of copywriters are focused on writing a sales letter. They work on getting the headline and opening right, and then everything else...then they give it to the business owner, sit back, and wait for the results.

I think that's a big mistake.

I also think a good copywriter should also be a good marketer.

Depending on the product you're writing for, you'll probably need multiple sales letters. Examples...one for women, one for men, one for those that haven't heard of your product, one for those that have heard about it and are on the fence, one for those...

see what I mean?

The big thing too many copywriters also fail to do is...

they don't control what happens after their message is read. The landing page. The email sequences. The sign-up page...

'Hey Bob, we saw you checked us out but didn't call...'

'Hey Mary, thanks for your interest...'

'Hey Larry, was it us?'

What I'm saying is, you also want to have control over everything that happens after they read your message.

Being a good copywriter also means ensuring your messages are read and then followed up on with the best sales tactics. Not giving advice and making needed changes on what happens after a reader reads your message is allowing your client to dictate how well your message performs.

So, the next time you hear about a copywriter offering a sales letter for cheap...realize they probably don't have a big clue of the bigger picture. A customer really needs more than just a sales letter to make their product a success.

You as a copywriter need to enlighten your clients about everything you can offer...and when you do it successfully, you'll have a lot better chance of offering your clients success
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    Added: One sales message that covers everyone is never as effective as multiple messages that target specific groups.

    Take your product and break it down by everyone that would be interested and target them.

    Call out your intended customer in your headline...

    'Women, do your boobs sag?'

    'Men, do you get up a couple of times a night to whiz?' ...

    could be for a health product you have.

    Get creative and break it all down. You'll see a lot better results
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

      'Women, do your boobs sag?'
      Likley ima have nowan's eyes out when I pirouette othah than pure vizyools.

      But you dead right on ALSOSTUFFS.

      Bcs any an' all dialog can resolve all kindsa ways.

      Mostly, you wantin' YESSES to skip forward ovah NOES (less'n objections are plusses toward the next stage) ...

      so any kinda ADDITIONS to BALLS ROLLIN' flow evrythin' on.

      Which is why I gaht so much ishoo with funnelese.

      I see how strategic squirt can mebbe getchya sumplace -- but flipside of evry funnel is a horizon.

      Yeah bcs we all wanna mke olut sumplce, but nowan evah puts on shoes don't fit.

      To clarify:

      And

      Also

      ...

      A commendable threesum!
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  • My calculation is...

    Start with at least 3 initial sales letters - aimed at different "targets" - the more "targets" the more "initials."

    Keep following up until the response goes negative.

    (if you see red dots on any part of your anatomy - ask in a loud voice "What's the name!" and delete it from your list - it shows those "targets" no longer wish to read your esteemed words...and they've hired an assassin to indicate this).


    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      Originally Posted by Steve The Copywriter View Post


      (if you see red dots on any part of your anatomy - ask in a loud voice "What's the name!" and delete it from your list - it shows those "targets" no longer wish to read your esteemed words...and they've hired an assassin to indicate this).


      Steve
      Whenevah I see red dots on my boobies, mostly it is bcs they my boobies.

      Howevah, if'n BIZARRE ILLOOMINATION should manifest while I showerin', I will know immediately to suspect foul play.

      Bcs it is intrinsically easiah to target nowan in their sleep than it is to do same when they in the showah.

      Yeah, so ima LETHAL with shampoo ...

      As the red dot flashed across her abdomen and prompted wayward shots into the shower tiling, Princess grabbed her CLEOPATRA JIZMNESS shampoo from its place next to the snakily metallic watah spoutin' showah head, an' squirted max (plus also direct) into her surprise assailant's eyes.

      "Figure that is the enda the story?" She stomped on the guy's neck, maintainin' her balance uncannily despite the luxury foam bubblin' all ovah. "I gaht skincare products gonna makeya bleed form the back end once I gaht you trussed up neat."


      Tellya, I gaht an ASSASSIN PLAN.

      Home Alone ain't gaht nuthin' on my prep.
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  • Princess my beloved one,

    I'm probably too old to engage in hand to hand combat when "prospects" don't want to be recipients of my "literature".

    But if I'm targeting a female audience and they no longer wish to hear from me, and want to ambush me in the shower and indulge in shampoo soirees - I'm going to keep sending them follow ups.


    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    @ Steve and Princess -

    What kind of ghetto area are you guys advertising to?

    I knew things were getting rough...but had no idea it was getting this rough for copywriters
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  • Max,

    I can't answer for The Princess.

    But I often send stuff to the beleaguered, bewildered and bereft and my words don't exactly improve their situation.


    Overall when firing off copy don't panic - it's just from time to time some prospects get a little vexed if they get too many sales pitches.

    The Princess and myself have developed our own tactical contingency plans should this happen.


    Steve
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    Couldn't agree more. Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Camorra
    For women, men, and those who have not heard about the product - all this can fit into one text. But only a brilliant copywriter can do this, and there are very few of them. And their services are definitely not cheap.
    Copywriters, as a rule, write in generalized phrases, without delving into the details of the product. There are an overwhelming majority of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
    Late in here, but all I know is ...

    IF'N THEY MENSCHNIN' YOUR NAME WHILE YOU KINDA DOWIN' NUTHIN' -- THEN MEBBE YOU WINNIN'.

    Breakthru Advertizin' stage 5.

    Yeah but that Thruness Of Break was all wrote out yestahday fore'n all kindsa morons sought to command directschwaahn ovoir our pens -- whether them pens be eithah implumments nor contstrain'ts.

    See bcs evry AND ALSO demands a scenario it ain't figured yet -- or what is gowin' on, zackly?

    All I know is, creative conflux of absolootes is always preferabyool to inevitabyool oblivion.

    *Ask my stylist. She finesses muh rat tail HORRORPANNARAMMA into sumthin' attractive to more than like mebbe 3-8 hoomans. *

    Originally Posted by Steve The Copywriter View Post

    Max,

    I can't answer for The Princess ...

    (My ellipses.)

    The Princess and myself have developed our own tactical contingency plans should this happen.

    Steve
    * sigh *

    You nevah forget your first tactical contingency plan you cain't actschlly remembah.

    Bcs it sounds so dirty.

    So you bury it, yeah yeah you bury it.

    Thing is, all definition craves to exist an' persist, if'n only meaningful gaze would fall upon it.

    Othahwise there is swarm of inconsequence.

    The known gaht BONAH, the rest is UNKNOWNAH.

    ...

    jus' gotta figure our ellipsescape can handle the fkr, I guess.
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