My Squeeze Page is converting Terribly.. Any Advice???

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I'm kinda surprised. I thought this squeeze page would have converted well. But today I got 200 visitors and only 8 sign ups.

The traffic was well targeted so I know for sure thats not the problem.

Maybe I've just been looking at it for too long so I'd love for some fresh eyes to take a look and let me know what you think.

Any recommendations?

http://pitbullstraining.com/pitbullfb6/
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    The squeeze page actually looks nice and effective. Maybe the problem lies within the niche? ... something to consider.

    But test a new squeeze page design and measure its effectiveness with the squeeze page you have now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
      Yeaa I know the niche isnt the best but there's at least some money to be made here. I'm beginning to think maybe my bribe isnt a good one?

      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      The squeeze page actually looks nice and effective. Maybe the problem lies within the niche? ... something to consider.

      But test a new squeeze page design and measure its effectiveness with the squeeze page you have now.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I think the actual page is decent. I'm wondering how targeted your traffic is.
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    • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
      Facebook traffic. Surely pitbull owners based on their likes...

      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      I think the actual page is decent. I'm wondering how targeted your traffic is.
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Hi

    The page looks great. Nice colors and opt-in above and below the fold.

    The copy is mostly descriptive of the product features. You want to target the user problem and tap into their fears and desires. Hit on emotional triggers - not logic.

    Your headline main idea is to "End Pitbull Disobedience". So think of the target audience that is looking for a solution to the problem of disobedient pitbulls.

    Introduce the sales copy by describing the problem and the impact that problem has on your target buyer. Then offer solutions and how they benefit the buyer. Hit emotional buttons. Tell how easy it is for anyone to do- even if they have never trained a dog before.

    Problems with disobedient pitbulls
    - Hard to control, run away
    - Don't listen to you as their "master"
    - Danger of untrained pitbull to children other animals
    - Can you handle a lawsuit from your misbehaving pitbull
    - Reputation in the media

    Fears of owning an untrained pitbull
    - Dog is misunderstood
    - Embarrassing situations
    - Trouble with the law, lawsuit
    - Dog could be euthanized
    - Training a pitbull is too hard

    Solutions - Results
    - Stronger bond with your dog - be the true master
    - Confidence with other people and children - no fear of an embarrassing (or worse) incident
    - Control of your dog and its environment - feel confident and comfortable in any situation
    - Effective "military methods" make it surprising easy to train your dog - even if you have never trained a dog before
    - Proven training program used by the military

    Write like you are talking to an individual person. Imagine your 'ideal' buyer profile and talk to that person.

    I think the call to action could be stronger.

    There is also a slight disconnect between your product and the sales copy.

    Your sales copy talks about Training, Disobedience and Military Technique. But the book title talks about How to Communicate.

    Maybe call it something like Pitbull Training Bootcamp or Pitbull Military School.

    Or change the sales copy to focus on problems with not communicating with your dog. Mixed signals. No bond with owner. Lack of trust.

    Your sales copy tries to "talk tough" but the book and title come across as soft or "touchy feely". You want the product to match the selling angle.

    The book is FREE but that doesn't mean you don't have to really sell it.

    Mahlon
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    • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
      Great reply... I really appreciate this...

      Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

      Hi

      The page looks great. Nice colors and opt-in above and below the fold.

      The copy is mostly descriptive of the product features. You want to target the user problem and tap into their fears and desires. Hit on emotional triggers - not logic.

      Your headline main idea is to "End Pitbull Disobedience". So think of the target audience that is looking for a solution to the problem of disobedient pitbulls.

      Introduce the sales copy by describing the problem and the impact that problem has on your target buyer. Then offer solutions and how they benefit the buyer. Hit emotional buttons. Tell how easy it is for anyone to do- even if they have never trained a dog before.

      Problems with disobedient pitbulls
      - Hard to control, run away
      - Don't listen to you as their "master"
      - Danger of untrained pitbull to children other animals
      - Can you handle a lawsuit from your misbehaving pitbull
      - Reputation in the media

      Fears of owning an untrained pitbull
      - Dog is misunderstood
      - Embarrassing situations
      - Trouble with the law, lawsuit
      - Dog could be euthanized
      - Training a pitbull is too hard

      Solutions - Results
      - Stronger bond with your dog - be the true master
      - Confidence with other people and children - no fear of an embarrassing (or worse) incident
      - Control of your dog and its environment - feel confident and comfortable in any situation
      - Effective "military methods" make it surprising easy to train your dog - even if you have never trained a dog before
      - Proven training program used by the military

      Write like you are talking to an individual person. Imagine your 'ideal' buyer profile and talk to that person.

      I think the call to action could be stronger.

      There is also a slight disconnect between your product and the sales copy.

      Your sales copy talks about Training, Disobedience and Military Technique. But the book title talks about How to Communicate.

      Maybe call it something like Pitbull Training Bootcamp or Pitbull Military School.

      Or change the sales copy to focus on problems with not communicating with your dog. Mixed signals. No bond with owner. Lack of trust.

      Your sales copy tries to "talk tough" but the book and title come across as soft or "touchy feely". You want the product to match the selling angle.

      The book is FREE but that doesn't mean you don't have to really sell it.

      Mahlon
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
    A few quick thoughts:

    Judging from the URL, your traffic's from Facebook, if so I wouldn't be too sure the traffic's not your problem (and I wouldn't send it to an external page, I'd keep the opt-in on Facebook).

    Are you maintaining scent?

    Your headline promise is too big, too broad, with too little proof.

    The e-cover doesn't seem congruent with your promise.

    Pit bull's spelt three different ways.

    The copy's not specific enough.

    There's a screenshot of a video, but no other mention of it.

    Your CTA's generic and the red arrow looks amateurish.

    The attempt at scarcity assumes your prospect is stupid.

    The grey border's cramping the design.

    And lastly, is this what pit bull owners really want?
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    • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
      Thanks for this reply. Very thorough.

      I do frame this on a fanpage. I just shared the website version here.

      What do you mean by maintaining scent?

      Thanks...

      Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

      A few quick thoughts:

      Judging from the URL, your traffic's from Facebook, if so I wouldn't be too sure the traffic's not your problem (and I wouldn't send it to an external page, I'd keep the opt-in on Facebook).

      Are you maintaining scent?

      Your headline promise is too big, too broad, with too little proof.

      The e-cover doesn't seem congruent with your promise.

      Pit bull's spelt three different ways.

      The copy's not specific enough.

      There's a screenshot of a video, but no other mention of it.

      Your CTA's generic and the red arrow looks amateurish.

      The attempt at scarcity assumes your prospect is stupid.

      The grey border's cramping the design.

      And lastly, is this what pit bull owners really want?
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      • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
        Originally Posted by Krishna876 View Post

        What do you mean by maintaining scent?.
        Making sure the message is congruent throughout every step of your funnel. So that when a prospect clicks on your ad, they get what they expected.

        But just for the record, it may look like bullshit but there are no lies on that page.
        It's not enough for just you to know that, you need to make sure the person reading knows.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    As a pibble-lover (just look at my FB), there are several issues here.

    The first is it screams "insincere". People who buy dog training products are crazy into it. I recently worked with who I believe to be one of the greatest dog trainers in the world. The guy has his own TV show in 30+ countries, etc. And I still piled on the social proof of WHY and HOW his methods worked to get the sale.

    What have you got?

    A bullshit personality, no understanding of the market, and a crappy ebook.

    Yeah, I'll pass.

    The military angle is an interesting hook, but again, there's no backup here. I've never heard of the military using dogs (though I have heard of cops doing it).

    Now, on top of that, pitbulls are dogs. Every one is different, though they do have common traits (aggression toward other dogs, love people, stubborn, etc)

    They are also very intelligent and love to please people.

    Anyone who has a dog knows they don't need pittie training advice, they need dog training advice. And I say that as someone who owns a pitbull, so I know what I'm talking about.

    Look at your page as a prospect. It screams lack of sincerity and it's filled to the brim with bullshit. Your bullets are vague and meaningless. There's no credibility. And you've missed the market by a full 180 degrees.

    Plus, pitbulls aren't particularly hard dogs to train. Stubborn? Sometimes. But they're also a very loyal dog, and if you bond with them they actually follow commands most of the time. Getting them super well-trained is a little harder though...

    So... in short... a colossal marketing fail.

    Sorry.

    -Daniel
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    • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
      Daniel, no apologies necessary. I appreciate your feedback and I agree.

      I do however have some (maybe just a little) understanding of the market. My previous squeeze page was for an ebook called "Handling Pitbull Aggression", which didn't do too bad. But I wanted to see how this angle would convert...

      The ebook itself isn't that bad is it?? I thought people would like that kind of info...

      And the military does use dogs (MWDs) and the method I'm showing in the book really came about from military research.

      Other than that, I love pitbulls as well and also have one here at home with me. I started a facebook fanpage some time ago and when I recently checked up on it, my fan base grew tremendously. So I decided to try to monetize these people by passing them through a sales funnel.

      I know it's probably not the best market but I figure if I can get these people, who aren't desperately in need of training material, to convert to customers, it would be good practice and I'd learn from the experience.

      The personality part and lack of sincerity is what stands out most to me though. Maybe I've been reading too much on writing copy that grabs attention and somehow lost the personal touch along the way.

      But just for the record, it may look like bullshit but there are no lies on that page. I respect my fans and I'm really trying to help them out (and myself in the process).

      Thanks for the great feedback and if you come up with any more suggestions on how I could better approach the market, please share them with me.

      - Krishna

      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      As a pibble-lover (just look at my FB), there are several issues here.

      The first is it screams "insincere". People who buy dog training products are crazy into it. I recently worked with who I believe to be one of the greatest dog trainers in the world. The guy has his own TV show in 30+ countries, etc. And I still piled on the social proof of WHY and HOW his methods worked to get the sale.

      What have you got?

      A bullshit personality, no understanding of the market, and a crappy ebook.

      Yeah, I'll pass.

      The military angle is an interesting hook, but again, there's no backup here. I've never heard of the military using dogs (though I have heard of cops doing it).

      Now, on top of that, pitbulls are dogs. Every one is different, though they do have common traits (aggression toward other dogs, love people, stubborn, etc)

      They are also very intelligent and love to please people.

      Anyone who has a dog knows they don't need pittie training advice, they need dog training advice. And I say that as someone who owns a pitbull, so I know what I'm talking about.

      Look at your page as a prospect. It screams lack of sincerity and it's filled to the brim with bullshit. Your bullets are vague and meaningless. There's no credibility. And you've missed the market by a full 180 degrees.

      Plus, pitbulls aren't particularly hard dogs to train. Stubborn? Sometimes. But they're also a very loyal dog, and if you bond with them they actually follow commands most of the time. Getting them super well-trained is a little harder though...

      So... in short... a colossal marketing fail.

      Sorry.

      -Daniel
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  • Profile picture of the author DR0832
    Why on earth would a person ever want to take the risk and deal with the liability of owning one of these terrible animals? It makes absolutely no sense unless you literally want this for an attack dog. All these ghetto people think its cool to do this and this is one of the reason these people can't get out of the ghetto. Its really sad.
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    • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
      Originally Posted by DR0832 View Post

      Why on earth would a person ever want to take the risk and deal with the liability of owning one of these terrible animals? It makes absolutely no sense unless you literally want this for an attack dog. All these ghetto people think its cool to do this and this is one of the reason these people can't get out of the ghetto. Its really sad.
      What's sad is coming on a copywriting forum and spewing nonsense that's got nothing to do with what the OP was asking.

      This is not the place to make derogatory statements that are off base and pointless.

      @ Krishna876

      Think specifics when writing your copy.

      Think... what is THE biggest problem you can help pit bull owners with, disobedience just leaves it too wide open.

      Think specifics like...

      No biting kids
      No risk of lawsuit or quarantine by the ACO
      No attacking other animals
      Coming when called for

      Things like that... again, get specific.

      A headline that says something like...

      "How to Make Sure Your Pitbull Doesn't Bite a Child
      and Cost You Millions in a Lawsuit".... something like that would
      get people to stop and read.

      That was just an "off the cuff" example... but it's about being specific.

      Generalities do not work as well as specifics... because we all process information by using pictures/movies/ in our minds.

      so a headline that talks about disobedience doesn't quite form the same mental imagery as a pitbull biting a child because of disobedience.

      but once you've identified the biggest problem... offer up the biggest solution for the reader, in exchange for them giving you their email addy.
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      • Profile picture of the author donza
        I've known a lot of pitbull owners over the years , I don't know if they are representative of all pitbull owners but NONE of them read books. They also weren't too worried if their dogs listened it was what they fought like that mattered.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert_Rand
    Shawn,

    I agree 100%. It's sad how many people are so ignorant.

    Pitbulls are freakin' awesome. I once dated a girl for 1-2 months longer than I probably would've just because me and her dog (pitbull) got along so well lol That dog used to crack me up.

    Krishna,

    Try another headline... like a slight variation of your 2nd bullet. Also consider placing a price value on the book.
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  • Profile picture of the author maximus242
    Its obviously the copy thats the problem. I think people are uncomfortable with applying military techniques on their pets. Sounds rather violent or cruel.

    The whole copy is a bit too extreme. How about just train your pitbull to listen to your commands. No need to go to an extreme.

    Sounds like your going to beat the dog to death if he doesnt listen. Its overly concerned with obedience in a way that sounds masochistic.

    If your going to use a military hook, this is much better: "Revealed: A simple training technique used by the US Military for training Military Elite Canines."
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    • Profile picture of the author Shazadi
      A lot of these responses are great and have already touched on this, but "specificity" is really where your copy is lacking.

      When you could change your LP's title to address any breed in the world, you know the rest of your content isn't specific enough. How to train your German Shepherd "to understand and obey". Teach your Pomeranian "any trick you can imagine". Make it easy to "eliminate disobedience" of your Persian. Wait, that's a cat... oh well. Wouldn't matter as the copy stands.

      Subie really gave some amazing examples that are fears/hopes specifically related to Pitbull owners. They have a bad rap, it's hard to convince strangers that they're safe, how can you avoid a law suit, etc. Focus on alleviating those worries.

      The military angle is good, but I see a promise in the headline that isn't mirrored anywhere in the copy below. How did Gina get this secret military knowledge? How do the military's training techniques differ from an Average Joe's? You should take full advantage of that in your bullets... "The weird foreign treat soldiers give their dogs that makes them as docile as kittens near friends... and absolutely vicious near enemies" It needs to be more exciting and unique than what you've got now.

      Also, who the heck is "Gina Jaye"? I've seen a lot of people just blowing over the author's description in copy lately. That's not okay unless they're already a well-known celebrity. Few people are going to trust (or care about) a nobody, so I'd at least describe some of her qualifications. If this is just a persona you've made up then forget it. It's more honest to say, "I'm Laura and I collected these facts by interviewing my commando uncle and researching army forums, websites and organizations," than pretending to be an expert.
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  • Profile picture of the author bluewillow
    Hi. Actually, I think with the military angle might work if you had targeted traffic from the internet in general. But if your traffic is from FB, that's probably a really narrow niche. Most people on FB are touchy feely about their dogs. The military angle might be too harsh for them. If you focused on German Shepherds, of which, I've had two, you might tap into military for the Schutzhund people, but for pit bulls, FB peeps love their pitties and don't want them to be any more misunderstood than they are already. Also, in the pet dog training world, the emphasis is on gentler, kinder training. When I trained my dogs years ago, they taught the 'jerk' method with the choke chains. You seldom see a choke chain in the Obedience rings any more, much less on a pet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Subtle
    Originally Posted by Krishna876 View Post

    Maybe I've just been looking at it for too long so I'd love for some fresh eyes to take a look and let me know what you think.
    LOVE the SATANIC "I'm going to bite your throat and rip out your Adam's apple" eyes of the dog featured on your ebook cover! LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      Krishna,
      There's no mention of what specific problems YOU KNOW
      your market has.

      Have you surveyed them?

      Once you get that feedback, then you can match your message and
      book to to it.

      At the moment it's speculation.

      Best,
      Ewen
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      • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
        You've already gotten a ton of great advice.

        Here are just my 2 cents...

        a) I'm really turned off by the misspelling "pit-bull." Please! This immediately kills any credibility you might otherwise have.

        b) The book title doesn't fit with the text at all.

        c) I'd like to know what your FB ad said - it may have promised something very different from what's on this landing page, which would explain the low conversion rate.

        d) Just because your "targeted" visitors are interested in pitbulls doesn't mean they have problems communicating with them or training them. To the contrary.

        Most Facebook pitbull lovers just LOVE their adorable doggies, and so they would not feel spoken to by your landing page at all.

        e) Instead of promising them a BOOK, why not say it's a special report. That tends to convert much better - and it doesn't sound like nearly as much reading.

        Of course you also need better bullets, etc., and a bunch of other things, as was mentioned above.

        Good luck!
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