oh almighty god,

not again!!!!!!

GCD will be back?

I was part of the first release of this product,, and it was way the biggest failure in internet history,
Don't know if there're improvements to the software, but it was one of the most painful experiences in my life,
Chris Carpenter is a good marketer, I learned from his google cash ebook, but this software affected his image significantly

What do you mean there is no monthly fee? I just signed up and there is!

This is really true no matter what...

Google has slapped any sort of direct-linking pretty hard and if all you're doing is using a landing page then you're years behind the curve anyway.

Tools like this will never stop those that are using Adwords to build lists and promote products...and that's where the real money is.

This is not an attack on GCD, but food for thought about how most people go about trying to make money. Remember, if you steal a campaign because it's flagged by GCD...then someone else can do the same to you.

If Chris really does have hundreds of thousands invested in this software, then no doubt he had a feature built in that will auto-flag long running campaigns and notify him of them...that's the problem with these types of systems. You never know what is being done with the data.

My point was that you can never "clone" someone building a list via Adwords with a simple tool.

I have an autoresponder loaded with 2 years worth of messages, affiliate promos and promos for my own products running under some of my Adwords ads. THAT is how you negate the competition.

In addition, quality score makes the issue clouded even further. I have the position I do on some keywords because of my CTR, account history, keywords history etc. Google also looks at the way your ad groups are set up as well...GCD can't see that.

You could clone my exact ad and Google would say, "sorry, poor quality score" while for me it's great because of my history and positive account history and the way I've structured my ad groups and keyword groups.

As you know, two ads right next to each other may vary in price wildly thanks to quality score.

As you said, you're involved with the product so obviously you view it favorably. My point was simply that the "easy pickins" out there are short-lived anyway.

I think very very few people have the mindset to capitalize on tools like GCD, most people are just chasing the next big thing.

Use Matt Cullens KeyWordSpy...

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I just saw the two first videos (about 30m each) and I admit my jaw dropped, it looks so damn amazing - it seemingly takes out all the guesswork out of it. In fact, I've never seen such a product. Looks the closest to an automatic money machine possible.

That's why I came here, to see comments on it. I hope more beta testers comment for the forum. checkmuldoon's experience looks a far too common one these days - amazing launch campaigns followed by zero customer support once you're in.


And NewQuestions is biased like he said himself. He basically repeats what we see in the ads and videos. So I'm sceptical, but if it does what it says, it's simply amazing. I want to know the price that's for sure.

I just saw the videos my self..interesting stuff indeed...however the fact that it has a database with all those direct linking campaigns is a turn off for me...Your going to have a bunch of people looking at the same information/data set...kind of kills the point.

Personally, anything related to spying I want to be kept private and seen by my eyes only...Right now my favorite spy tool is ppc kahuna. I got in on the beta and its turns out to be pretty bad ass. There is alot of aspects to the system (a tool that works like speed PPC, a landing page generator thats like LPgen, A bunch of training videos and PDF's on how to use the tools for PPC and SEO, ect) but the core element is a desktop tool that allows you to pretty much do what all these spy tools do just privately on your own computer. The downside is you your using your own computer resources and your building your own database, but over all it's much more flexible and safer IMO.

You can add custom detection strings to pretty much catch a direct link from any affiliate network. It comes pre loaded with something like 20 networks already..You can also get creative and have it look for tracking ids/codes to catch smart affiliates who are not direct linking but using landing pages. The fact they use tracking URLs shows they know what they are doing...

I also hear they any day now they will be adding the ability to track not just PPC ads on google, but on yahoo and msn...should be freaking killer.

That PPC Kahuna looks like the bomb too. But going back to "all have access to the database", wouldn't Chad and his crew be shooting themselves in the foot by sharing this if that were true?

While there may be millions of affiliate offers out there, the winners make up a pretty low number, probably below 10 000, if that. So we compete for those. Still, that's a lot. And his database is supposed to contain lots of other networks besides the overused clickbank.

I hope we get more feedback from Beta testers.

a little out of box thinking is required when you use a program like gcdetective. even if there are only 10,000 affiliate offers that are winners the keyword database holds like 2 million keywords.

For the same keyword there can be 100 different affiliates direct linking 100 different offers. So there is no real threat like 1000 people having access to gcdetective is going to saturate the market.

Hi!

Does the huge keyword list handled by GCD include languages besides english?

Damien

I have a question for NewQuestions or anyone else who can help me out.

I watched the videos last night and I am very impressed with GC Detective. However, there is one strategy that Chris employed that has me a bit confused. I am hoping you can provide a little clarity for me.

Chris was doing a direct linking campaign with a keyword that gets over 1 million searches a month. But the display url and the destination url did not match one another.

The destination url was his clickbank hop link that takes you to the sales page at reversephonedetective.com and his display url was reversephonedetective-free.com. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Google kill campaigns that use this tactic?

I know that Chris did not want to use "reversephonedetective.com" as the display url because another marketer was using this and he did not want to get into a bidding war. But my question is: how does he get by using "reversephonedetective-free.com" when the visitor lands on reversephonedetective.com?

Also, when you go to in reversephonedetective-free.com you can see that it is not a viable domain. Chris simply used it as a "Display" url for his campaign.

Thanks.

Jon

Good question Jon. I was thinking the same thing but didn't try to go to his website like you did.

In regard to the url question, alot of people know/knew about it..but the majority did not know..There was a way that you could set a different url on the keyword level...so while you had the same url for your destination and display url when you created your actual ads..you could go in and edit the actual keyword information and give a different url for the keyword...It was a loophole in how goolge handled it's data.

That's how Chris got around the double serving rule...he could still direct link but display his own url...I dont think this works any more...or will be killed very soon...Google talked about it recently...so unless you want to get into a bidding war on a direct linking campaign your going to be shit out of luck...

This is why I'm not to big on the idea of having a shared data base that all users can see...and query. By using the wild card as he showed in the video you and everyone else will be able to pull up all direct linking data...bah..lol. that will be fun.

I'll stick with the competition and spy data that only I have access to on my own computer...it takes more time and resources but is much more effective long term...

Hi,

GCD is a pretty awesome tool - but just a tool. Great for niche research and campaign planning - a way to see what is already working for someone and "copy the best" as they say. If this is an area you are struggling in then GCD is worth a look.

A mate of mine is one of the beta testers and he is completely in love with Google Cash Detective. We are comparing it against Keyword Spy and the main benefits for GCD seem to be:
* data is updated daily
* The "slide show" feature that displays landing pages etc. for all ads for a keyword in a very sexy "flip book" style (very "iPhone" app style)

My mate uses the "flip book" feature to help get a feel for the niche if it's not something he's familiar with - see what sort of bonuses people are offering too.

The wildcard searching is killer (though you can do this in Keyword Spy too).

So GCD is a tool that will help ensure you target profitable niches with proven keywords that convert. (Or at least keywords someone has been willing to consistently spend money on!). It will save you investing time and money "trying out" campaigns.

I would certainly suggest pairing it up with a good conversion tracking tool like Xtreme Conversions or Affiliate Prophet. (There may be others - XC is my personal favorite!) This would help ensure you ditch any non-converting keywords.

Hope this helps.

Steve

Will this GCD be similar to keyword elite? Or is it better?

how much it will be sold?

Looking at the GCD videos, there appears to be a deficiency...if the database has collected all that data, then why not just create a report of the highest search volume keywords with consistently displayed affiliate direct link ads...and then work down from the top of the list constructing your direct link campaigns?

If you don't care what you're an affiliate for, then this would be THE KEY search result - and one they can surely do at GCD...they have all the data - it appears on the screen - and it's just a quick report to write!

But it doesn't appear to be built into the software! So while the customer is left guessing and browsing for the good opportunities - and with 2.5 million keywords that doesn't produce a huge competitive problem - but the vendor? Well they can go straight to the answers!

So the punter pays for the development costs, and the vendor gets to cherry pick the opportunities! Nice!

Even so, it looks like it would speed up niche research...dramatically!

The videos are cool.

But I haven't heard one beta tester say they made money with it.

I tested each campaign from his videos exactly as he laid them out.
I'm not a rookie.

Not one made money.

Who cares that you can search campaigns in 5 minutes if it doesn't make money.
Who cares that it's following millions of keywords if it doesn't make money.

I want to hear dollars and cents from a beta tester.
I don't want to hear the hype.

It does sound very intriguing, but gotta agree:

Let's here some earning stats from a couple of beta testers,
instead of all the hype.

I was about to move to PPC Bully... guess I'll wait.

Impossible. No way could you gross $215 with an adspend of $65 on the keyword Reverse Phone Search in 3 days. Absolutely impossible.
To get the ppc down that low you need a 4 page landing page and longer then 3 days. If you would have left out the 3 days, I might have believed you.

Do you even know how much cash you need with a budget of $500 per day?

Again, the software looks good, but you're not going to get anyone to buy with this crap.

And anyone in the world can be an affiliate/partner with GCD.

One more time. Any beta testers out there with results and no BS?

I set up the same campaign in the rev phone niche with the same keyword,ctr,ad position and direct linked and after 152 clicks i have had only 1 sale and yet chris was converting at 1:15, how come such a huge difference as i was duplicating his campaign exactly?

With all these offers to get rich,print money.One could go broke buying them all. If I had a system that worked so well don't think I would be shearing, why are they.

Can somebody clarify the Major differences in GCD, Affiliate Elite, and Affiliate espionage? (If the answer is obvious go easy on me-everyone starts somewhere)

Thanx!

At least 3 things are happening:

1) Sample size blindness - a test of 84 clicks isn't enough to be statistically representativ of the performance of the test. So some people will get 1 conversion, some people will get 20 conversions.

2) Selection bias - Chris may have shot several set-up videos and then presented the best result...he even mentions that techique when he starts looking at the 'learn guitar' niche (if I recall). It's still a true result, but it's not representative.

3) It's a non-static test...as someone rightly pointed out, the measures he used to select his campaign are historical measures (from the last few months). Once new players enter the market, market forces will drive the bidding price up, and therefore the profitability down. Transparency (which Chris claims - correctly - that he is creating) drives efficiency into markets.

So if you suddenly create 500 new players going after the same most promising niches from historical data, most will get their shorts eaten, as bid prices rise. The winners will be the ones who have a hidden advantage, such as a long-standing account with Google, a better way to bid for position, reach across other PPC providers, landing page generation/match to keywords, etc.

And a campaign may be profitable one day, and loss making the next, based on statistical varibility...particularly when the numbers of visitors are small.

And this is the nub of my concern, voiced earlier...the value of the competitive information they are peddling changes...rapidly...and there's a basic human tendency to want to 'game' the prospect list (a game theory called 'tragedy of the commons' if you want to look it up).

What to do? Learn the basic lesson, and then 'zig while the others zag'.

OK here is my take on this: Chris did an example where he made 6 sales from 84 clicks. Ben does the same example and gets 1 sale out of 152 clicks.

Let's assume both Chris and Ben are telling the truth. So now what happened?

Let's say 20 other people did the exact same example as Chris and Ben; wouldn't that saturate the ad so to speak, and make it less profitable? I guess my point is, if one ad is making money, duplicating that ad might still make money, and re-duplcating it may also, but by the time the 20th duplication comes along, the ad ceases to be a money maker.

If the cpc went down to .39 in one day, I assume it can go lower over time, and Ben did make a sale. Perhaps over 500 clicks we can get a better reading of if this works (if Ben wants to spend the money).

And one final thought; we are only seeing in the videos what Chris WANTS us to see. There may be other parts he isn't bringing up about GCD that can truly make money 100% of the time. Perhaps over 90 days Ben's ad WOULD make money (or picking less competitve ads than this one turned out to be).

Just my 39 cents worth.

Everyone bidding on the same keyword would affect bidding PPC prices, but not sales per click!

If you're getting similar price and CTR, you should be getting sales. Otherwise why bother?

I mean, we want to get sales, not traffic!

We really need the beta testers feedback. I mean, if it work as advertised, GCD should be as close to an automatic money machine as you can get. So the testers should have a lot more $$$ right about now.

Let me ask this: If an ad is being shown for 100 straight days, can we assume it is making money? And if I clone the ad, wouldn't I make money too (over 100 days)?

I was 'tempted' to cut `n paste the email I got from the boys running PPC Classroom, but I decide against it.

Suffice to say, these guys know PPC as well as anyone on the planet (and) both Amit and Anik declare they are semi-addicted to the Detective.

A recommendation coming from these guys makes this a no-brainer 4 me!

Watching his 3rd Vid now - and yeah, Chris is one helluva marketer

The affiliate commission on this is $450 per order plus $25 per month.

$450 per order! They will make more on this then their PPC Classroom!

I heard that Warren Buffet has signed up to be an affiliate.


Anyone who makes claims about how much money they have are always full of it!


So which one is it?


Beta testers have had this program for what, a month or two or three?


And still, no beta tester results!

It's a private affiliate program.
I found it searching around, I don't have the link handy but it's out there and anyone can become an affiliate.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I am an affiliate. Hell, for 450 bucks I'll try and sell anything.

I think it was offered to testers a while back. I'm not sure if they paid or not.
The only thing I'm fairly certain of is the testers must have signed a non-disclosure statement because none of them are replying to this thread.

Or, is it none of them have made any money using it?
They have had it long enough to form an opinion.

I would guess that all positive statements for the program are from affiliates or newbs sucked in by the videos.
Again, 450 bucks per order. You won't find any Judas there!

The guys with lists are drooling over this offer. They can't wait for March 10!
All you have to do is get your list to watch the one video and if they have the $997 up front and the $25 per month, they will buy.

I hope the product does work. I would buy but I need a little more then a few really cool videos and postings from drooling affiliates who really have no idea other then the really cool videos and newbs who remain positive because of all the money they have thrown around.

Question for those that build test campaigns based on what you saw in the videos. Did you build a negative keyword list as part of your test?

Leon McKee

Steve,

I'm not sure if we'll ever find this out from anyone other then ourselves after we buy it. I tell you what, sign up as an affiliate and I'll buy it from you if you buy it from me. It will save us $450 each. I wonder what the pay out threshold is? I bet it's $500. Never mind.

I had a discussion with another beta tester on another forum a few days ago resulting in the same skirting of the issue. It was like asking McCain and Obama direct questions during one of the debates. I found out everything I didn't really want to know.

Who GAF about glitches and who GAF that it's ready for prime time and who GAF about collecting data and who GAF about who made it.

Does the SOB make money or what.

The election is over, now is the time for real answers.

Hey,

just a thought, but perhaps the reason there are no beta testers on here is because they are to busy picking that "low hanging Fruit" that may be a little harder to harvest once the rest of us get our greedy little hands on the GCD2...
I can't wait.

I just watched the videos and I am really not sure how up to date the database is?

One of the examples that Chris talks about is the keyword 'wal' which gets like millions of searches a month and has a profitable affiliate running an ad for walmart.

I just checked in google and there's no sign of any ad....so, he's probably been google slapped for some reason!!!

That's the problem with these spy tools - they are always a few weeks/months behind in terms of capturing and displaying data...

I just found this on another thread about GCD.
Kind of a boring thread, not cool like this one.


Hey new kids on the block, read the above quote.

I guess if I just spent $1100 I would still say it's a great product too.
And another 99 bucks will be due soon.
Even with a great tool, you still have to know what the hell you are doing.
And you still have to have the cash to keep up with Mr. Google's invoices while you are losing.

Nothing is easy!

You can't run a PPC campaign for Wal-Mart

C'mon. Don't fall for the hype.

I saw the videos and it looks real promising. I would like to know if any beta testers were beginners and if they made any money. What is the learning curve from start to cash?

That's one hell of an expensive promise!
I hope he took you out to dinner too.

I've been thinking about this software through out the last day or two.

Seems to me that either:

1. It's too good to be true

or

2. You simply CANT go wrong. I mean, if you really do straight COPY the ad and landing page off of a campaign that's been running rock solid for 90-100 days straight... then wouldn't you be 99% sure that you WILL eventually profit from that ad?

I'm thinking that it's just too early to tell at this point. Copying the campaigns in the video is pretty foolish if you ask me. You KNOW that probably 100 other people are doing the same thing.

Once we all get our hands on the software, and start looking at cloning successful ads outside of the IM niche, then I guess we'll find out if this software actually delivers the goods.

I'm really hoping that this software is as good as it looks.

Other mentioned options are much better that Google Cash Detective

OK, while this discussion has been going on, I've been doing some research and thinking...perhaps I can share what I've thought and found so far, putting aside the marketing hype? I know no-one is going to thank me for this (rather long) post, but I hope some people find it useful. Here goes: The GCD people are making a few claims, including:

1)They have a database of a few month's data about the presence & absence of PPC ads on Google Search engine sponsored results. This includes ad creative, links, keywords and landing pages for approx 2.5 million keyword phrases.

2)They have built a system that allows you to query their database to profile on the basis of keyword, link structure, and ads.

3)They have built human interfaces that let you inspect variations in ad creative for an identified affiliate.

4)They have built human interfaces that allow you to quickly browse through landing pages from ad links.

These are all shown by the videos, and are directly testable. Furthermore they claim:

5)Their system is robust enough for wide-scale use.

6)The system is an efficient mechanism for keyword research for PPC-based affiliate marketing (this has two components, usability and data accuracy).

We appear to have a beta tester on record who has supported those claims. Now we're on some more wooly ground...they make these further claims:

7)If an affiliate ad persists in a high ranking spot for a keyword phrase over an extended time then it is currently profitable for the promoter of an affiliate product.

8)If it's profitable for the promoter then it will be profitable for you as an incremental promoter of the affiliate product.

9)It is currently possible to make substantial profits by direct-linking from the ad to the affiliate page, using an affiliate link.

These are hard to validate without doing a large scale test; they are safe things to claim, because the test environment isn't stationary; the impact of the test will change it.

Claim 7) refers to identifying a symptom of a profitable campaign; all diagnoses are subject to the problem of false positives...so it is possible to identify the symptom and mis-diagnose the underlying cause. The same symptom could indicate, for example:

An affiliate marketer who has taken their eye of the ball (perhaps because their overall portfolio is doing quite all right thank-you-very-much, or their measurements aren't up to the job) or is behaving irrationally.

An affiliate marketer who uses a big sample size before making a go/no go decision about a campaign.

A campaign that used to be successful, and is being given a chance to return to profitability. The problem here is that you don't know in advance when that might be, in the same way that a forex trader doesn't!

A vendor masquerading as an affiliate (to boost their ratings). The economics of this approach are different than for a regular affiliate.

Advertiser whose cost of advertising is lower than yours (a long term account holder, and/or a big spender, or a JV arrangement with Google for some other reason) or with a special revenue sharing arrangement.

A remnant campaign from a product launch that has ended.

A campaign whose timing is precise, but happens to coincide with the times the data is sampled.

A campaign that is working on a specific geography that you are unaware of.

A campaign for which the landing page content is crucial for improving the conversion rates.

Experimenter error - that is, it's successful, but your test provided results that were incorrect, perhaps on the basis of your sample size, or something else.

Claim 8) is also problematic. Buying into a keyword campaign involves you in a market, and as we've seen from the financial world, markets are chaotic - sometimes they masquerade as being tame, other times they turn savage. On this basis, an incremental advertiser could drive prices way up; I'm sure Google has modelled it, but they're probably not sharing the results with us - Google has got an amazing portfolio play with Adwords / Adsense, and we're the ones taking the commercial risks!

Also, it is feasible that an incremental advertiser could change conversion rates! Certainly, if I detect a feeding frenzy (lots of Adwords pointing to the same place, lots of Adwords making hypey claims), then my guard is raised when I get to the landing page. I'm also spoiled for choice, and I might start exploring...reviewing the review sites, seeing if I can find the vendor themselves, direct.

Claim 9) is valid if Google hasn't prevented it! Logically, there will always be some opportunities where direct linking works. There will also be campaigns where it doesn't...and that depends on the efficiency of the landing page.

So now on to the results of my research:

GCD will speed up your ability to find niches where profits can be made, and structure campaigns to capture the profit compared to a tool that requires you to identify the keywords first, then capture information about competition.

As such, it will significantly reduce your time-to-market for an affiliate campaign. And there is real value in that! (Claim 6) If you are a newbie to the area of PPC, GCD may save you weeks of research and trial and error.

My concern is that the same information you have will be available to a large group of other people, who may distort the markets...and the launch process being used by GCD may exacerbate this issue. I expect this effect won't be large, and won't be long, and it can be side-stepped by avoiding aggressive sorting of the data - choose a niche idea first, rather than sort the whole of Clickbank's URLs for the most consistent, highest volume advertiser!

Also, you'll need additional tools if you want to run enough of a portfolio to get a consistent income - and I don't know yet whether these are included in the Google Cash Automator - maybe someone else here does? You'll want to be able to track the profitability of your campaigns by keyword; you may want a bid management tool once your spend makes it worthwhile; you may also want to manage domain names and potentially you'll want to propagate keyword targeted landing pages, link cloaking. And if you do landing pages, then you need to think through content and copy, and where you acquire that from...

You'll also need to be wary of over-trading, as the costs and profits come out of different accounts.

Thanks for everyone bringing up good food for thought. I guess in the end it is a question of whether you see value in it and believe that it will pay back your investment. At $997 up front it is pretty steep, but the $97 per month after that is probably pretty good value IF you actually use the research it provides.

And if you just want to make money out of the inevitable feeding frenzy to commence on Monday, check out the JV page: GC Detective JV Partner Blog

Unfortunately this is far from what really happens in IM.
I'll go out on the limb and say it's about 95% impossible to copy a method exactly and be successful.

Mott, if I sat you down right next to me and you watched what I did all day, (multiple PPC campaigns going for the singles, not the home run), and if you listened to me explain what I was doing without falling asleep, and then you went home and tried it yourself, you would FAIL.

What I do has evolved from trial and error over an embarrassing long time to what it is today and will almost with certainty change again tomorrow. No way could you copy this or any other method out there, I don't care who's method it is and I don't care how they guarantee it or all the swell bonuses,(boneruses), they give you.

It's an easy sale for someone selling the plan,method,program,software etc.. do what I do and prosper.

Truth of the matter it just doesn't work for the buyer because most buyers won't put in the time to learn the method, then adapt it to their own style. And that's the key point and is precisely why most,(95%) of the people fail at this business.

If everyone could copy and be successful, there would be about 100 zillion million richer then shit Internet Marketers out there living in Mexico making cool videos.

I'm not sure anyone has announced this but Google Cash Detective has 2 payment plans... it was mentioned in the blog posted earlier... but here goes anyway.

Apparently You Pay US$997 Upfront with $97 dollars monthly subscription

OR

US$1997 (inclusive of

I bought this product when it was offered to 30 people as a pre-launch type of thing. I don't recall if it was an offer for beta testers specifically or not. At any rate I paid $197 up front with a monthly of $97. At that time they were saying that the eventual price would be $497 at launch. I guess they re-evaluated the pricing if it's going to be released at $997.

I remember another product that created the same sort of buzz about a year and a half ago or so. I don't recall the name for sure. Undercover Profits maybe? That software pretty much delivered the same information that GCD does except you had to identify your keywords/ads and then track them to gather the data. So if you wanted to see how frequently an ad was running you needed to track it over time to find out. The big difference here is that this information is already available to you as they have been tracking 2.5 million keywords since about October (I think they said).

To me the weakness with this software is that you are relying mainly on one thing to determine profitability, and that is the amount of time the ad has consistently ran on the adwords network. That alone is not enough to make a decision as to whether the ad is profitable or not.

-Is the advertiser building a list and using an autoresponder to increase his conversions?
-Does he have a backend product of his own that he is also selling to the list?
-What is his quality score/ cost per click?
-Is he stuffing cookies?

And those are just a few.

You cannot get the whole picture by simply looking at the amount of days that he has consistently ran a certain ad. The software can show you a large part of the picture but not all of it. There is still a lot of research that has to be done if you want to eliminate as much risk as possible. That can be very time consuming if you are analyzing several campaigns. Not really what I want to be doing myself, but to each his own.

Some of the campaigns I ran lost money and some of them made money. I had three campaigns slapped because I was direct linking. I then tried redirecting and had a couple campaigns outright shut down for doing that.

So I am convinced the only way to approach it is to register your own domain for each product you want to promote, do a little preselling on a landing page (which includes an optin of course), and then provide your affiliate link to your visitor to proceed with the purchase. This was no revelation though as that is the only way I have been willing to run adwords for affiliate marketing anyway. In my opinion if you are spending the money on the ads and not building a list from it, then you are not making effective use of your money.

This is a very slick software and it works just like you see in the videos. However it is not the magic button that will provide you with fail proof campaigns as represented in the sales hype. You can certainly use the software to help you identify campaigns that appear profitable on the surface, but you had better be willing to follow through and find out as much about that campaign as you can before moving forward with it. Everything is not always as it appears on the surface!

Excellent review Don.
Just what this thread needed.

am really surprised that the numbers in GCD seem to be way off. One of the videos talked about a keyword "refund tax" which is supposed to have 550K searches a month.

Google's keyword tool only shows 90K searches for the broad match and just 880 searches for exact match.

Even if google is a bit off, there's still a massive discrepancy between both numbers.

Once could be mislead by GCD into assuming that this is a hugely profitable keyword and then spend time and money only to discover that the traffic is nowhere near what GCD painted it to be...

I am curious about one thing - how is Chris doing a direct linking to reversephonedetective.com using some other domain?

Since the display and destination URL have to be the same,is he doing a domain redirect?

Does that still work with google?

Google doesn't check each url all of the time or if they do, they let it go.

I get caught every once in awhile on a re-direct.

When they catch you they continue to watch that one adgroup, not the campaign.
If I want to keep it going, I'll slap up a fast blogger and use it as a landing page.

We are hearing a lot in the states these days about how violent it is in Mexico, and how the drug lords are running rampant. There are reports of Mexican gangs kidnapping people of wealth etc. I don't how accurate any of these reports are, but where there is smoke, you'll usually find fire. Is it a good idea to be calling yourself an internet millionaire and disclosing your remote location in Mexico?

Just something that came to mind as I watched Chris' super cool videos. Frank has nothing on this guy as far as the cool factor

hey all - i'm fairly new to all of this, so excuse me if this is a dumb question. But how important is using any "spy" software for things like this? If you are doing affiliate promotions for product x and if you go to google and search for "product x" and then print out the search results and come back and do it 3 weeks later and look at who is still in those same positions for that term, don't you know obviously who is being successful?

i've seen other tools that claim to show you bid prices but is there any way that a tool can actually have correct data for that? doesn't the bid price depend on factors like your adwords account history and your QS and other factors?

so...if you're the top advertiser for "product x" and a bunch of newbies buy this product and start bidding after product x, wouldn't they start with much higher bid prices because they don't have the history established with Google? Doesn't Google reward successful advertisers?

can anyone clear this up?

p.s. and in these kinds of threads it's always odd to me when people can't cite clear and consistent numbers. If one person claims they had a $100 day or lets say even a $1000 day - it's a bit meaningless if that was their only successful day. Because if they made $100 on one day in 20 days for example they are really making less than $5 a day, right? and it's misleading for that person to make it sound like they're averaging $100 a day!

so - i'll repeat the chorus - anyone out there having CONSISTENT success with this and can share the types of consistent average daily profit they are making?

thanks

Quote,`wouldn't they start with much higher bid prices because they don't have the history established with Google?'

I'm neither for nor against GCD but listened to a teleseminar Mark Ling from affilorama dot com did with Chris Carpenter and in it Chris gives details about his bidding strategy.
He explains how he initially starts with a higher bid than required and then gradually lowers it.
If you're interested then listen to the call, it's freely available at the above mentioned site.

I think any PPC marketer who isn't a newbie already knows that to simply copy someone's campaign isn't going to work in the long run.

And it's pretty obvious (to me anyway) that just because an ad has been running for months doesn't mean it's converting very well.
Some of the reasons for this have already been mentioned in this thread but I know personally that I do have some campaigns that don't convert very highly but I keep them because the CPC is very low (due to using my own strategies) and the clicks often convert into leads.

2c.

Chris states that the #1 spot has a low ROI. He says you don't want to have the #1 spot because many people who click the #1 ad are not interested in really purchasing anything and this will therefore cause you to lose money.

What's your thoughts on that?

I don't claim to be an expert but I'll answer my best.

Quote,`For you to overtake him, Google would have to make a greater profit which would mean that you would have to have both a high CTR rate and a high bid price, right?'

My understanding is that the higher your CTR is the lower your bid price, but you must also have a great QS. For example some of my landing pages have a QS of 9 and the clicks are very cheap.
But the most important thing is that Google serves relevant ads to their users, and a high CTR helps to prove that your ad is relevant to the keyword the user is searching for.
So I don't believe it's money driving the Google game but it's very important for Google to deliver the most relevant organic and paid results (besides we all know that they make a lot of money providing such a service).

If your CTR is very poor (the consensus seems to be under 2%) then delete that ad and start again.

Shift, great advice there is no real "one size fits all" strategy. Thanks!

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I also wanted to know if we will have payment mode of paypal or only credit card?

I think GCD is a pretty good app but its wayyyy overpriced.

I was invited on the beta phase at $197 upfront + $97 / mth.. and still I think it was not good value.. compared to similar progs out there.

The 'best' feature about GCD is the wildcard search or URL tracking.. simply enter the URL and get all the KW they are bidding on.. I know KWS does this a little but its got a 30 day lagg..

WILL GCD MAKE MONEY.

for sure.. I agree with some of the other posters onhere about the reversephonedetective..

I pulled in just uder $800 in 3 days.. so it does work..

For those people who want proof.. mate.. cant be botherted.. I dont care if you beleive me or not as I am not trying to sell anything.. do your own testing etc.

The most IMPORTANT factor in successful IM is 'Niche Selection' then KW selection.

I would like to get GCD but its not a good deal at the price..

However.. I would'nt mind doing a group buy with may be 4 or 5 people.. In a way a mastermind aliance where we all pay equally and get access to GCD.. If we want to share successful info with each other about campaigns thats optional.. but atleast we have access to the raw data from GCD.

Let me know if anyones interested in doing a group purchase? As I saw from the beta tester login.. GCD uses simply a aMember front end or something similar so I do not believe we should have any problems using GCD as a team.

so if this appeals to you let me know?

I definitely agree that you can make a lot more money building a list and selling via backend and so on, but direct linking does have its advantages like:

1. Great for beginners trying to learn PPC (adwords). They can get a feel for the game, then change their links.

2. Great for "CPA Offers". It's proven that Adwords is the most profitable method with CPA offers or lead based programs.

3. Great for niches you know little to nothing about. Rather than trying to write "fake reviews" of items you've never seen, or just trying to build a niche business in those kinds of niches, you can just promote items for that niche.

I watch Chris's video and setup following his keywords showing a successful high traffic ads. The Ads got very little impression and zero clicks so far. Keywords need to cost $1 to $2 per click to show up on first page.
So is GCD really giving real results?

Launch tomorrow. Still getting used to the software, but I really like what I see. Just completing Arbitrage Conspiracy and bought and using Google Shadow. These use a shotgun approach while GCD2 uses a laser. With all the competition out there with CPA offers and 'blasting' I think the laser option may be the way of the future. Don't get me wrong, blasting will still get results, but if you want to hone in on a favorite niche and check out what is selling well, GCD2 is the way to go IMO.

@jrise He's right Domain Forwarding and Masking is completely fine and you can easily get away with it. It's super easy & Go Daddy is the company to buy your domains through!

With the coupon code: chill3

you can get a domain for under $8

I also recommend cranking out a landing page though for better CTR's and Relevancy! Google loves relevancy. And if you're into lowering your CPC then do this step and you will be rewarded. Not only in the Paid Search Engines but also in the Organic! ; )

Agreed! Google Cash does work fantastically well! $287 spend and $800 profit is good for taking it live the night before! I'm sure you can increase your profits as your Optimize your Bids!

I wonder how this software can work for exact and phase match keywords? It only shows data based on broad match keywords.

Check this new video by Chris revealing the GCD2 offer:

Google Cash Detective Revealed | GC Detective Launch Blog

.... ......

Hey apa101 how many times are you going to link in here?

No, cannot sign up thru your own link

Any ebook with the word Google in it is bound to be crap. Some steady research has pretty much given me better methods than the people who make these ebooks

It's not an ebook

joining link was live for some time

Two questions...

1. Does anyone know if you can enter your own keywords into GCD, or can you only work with the words (all 2.5 mill of them) that are already in GCD?

I understand that the Option 2 payment is $1,997 for the first year, but I'm unclear what the 2nd year costs? Is it another $997 + $97 per month, OR is it just the $97 per month for year 2?

Cheers.

Hello Friends

Thx Yusuf ...it's just some folks are quoting there's an 'annual fee' of $997 a year from year 2 onwards PLUS the $97 a month, yet I haven't seen where they've got that from...

...hope your answer is right.

I just found it, it was in the older comments in the post.

Hi Chris,
I also am confused about the payment options.
1. If I take the pay $1997 in 4 payments, do I still get the Automator for life? Then the 2nd year is it $97/mo. or $997 + $97/mo.?
2. If I take the pay in full $1997, then the 2nd year is it $97/mo. or is it another $997 + $97/mo.?
Sorry for not understanding, but I do not want to make a mistake.


Note from Chris:

Sorry for the confusion. Yes if you do the $1997 in 4 payments then you get GCA for life. And your second year GCD is $97 per month. No joining fee. If you take the payment in full, then yes the 2nd years, GCD is only $97/mo (no joining fee)

Hope that cleared that up!

See you on the inside I hope!

Hey Food Guru,

Yea he's masking the domain and redirecting. Almost like an iFrame but just a mask.

500 Internal Server Error

Am I alone?

Nope...Big surprise their server blew up, huh? When doesn't this happen!

Oh geez, the launch didn't even start yet and the site is already down.

Is that a stunt or for real? I actually thought Chris seemed like an upstanding guy.

Looks like we discovered a niche.. an info product targeted at Internet marketers on how to not have their servers crash when they launch a product.

In the mean time...


I was reading a post above on about buying from one another, and wonder if we partner up say 3 people, and A buys from affiliate B who buys form C who buys from A.

We get 450$ and 27$ a month off the price as we make that in affiliate commission.


Is that even allowed? If it is, I'd go for it. I wont at 997$ though.

To:
google ranking expert. PLease read posts and know what we are all talking about so you don't bring a negative vibe into something you are not at all up to speed on.

Well, he IS in Mexico, maybe he's taking his siesta and forgot about the launch.

Has anyone been able to get GCD. today? I have been trying since it oppened.

I didn't got any order page until now either.

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It's working now.. at least for me. Order processed.

I am not getting the email although it says it was sent.

No, it still doesn't work for me.

I got in, but kind of a back door way. It was all legit and the order processed just fine. Now, I'm just waiting on access to the system. The whole system is overloaded right now including the database server.

Chris is a stand-up guy. I've been a customer since Google Cash 1 and he has always stood by everything he's said. If his server is crashing, it's not a gimmick. You have to imagine the kind of traffic that the site is serving right now. As a web developer myself I know that there are a lot of moving parts to a big launch like this. It's not uncommon to have a server crash in a high traffic situation. It happens outside of the IM world too!

Good luck to all those who are hoping to get in today. Now, stay off the damn servers so that I can get logged in and start making some cash!

The site works fine for me, don't know why some of you are saying the launch is only tomorrow.

Anyway I won't be buying it because I think it's over-priced.

Good luck, look forward to reviews.

that's correct..u wil pay $350 each month for 4 months (which also includes your $97 monthly fee per month)

It's live again. For now at least. If you want to get in, try now.

The site works OK for me now.

Can anyone shed any info on the GC Automator? ...it's a big upsell but one Chris hasn't gone into a great deal of detail about? He doesn't really touch on it in any of his videos either, with any screen shots, etc?

To 'allegedly' be worth 97 bucks a month (the same as the Detective) it needs to be quite an impressive tool, yet no-one really mentions it or proclaims its ROI value?

Are most of you that have managed to order taken up the 'lifestime automator' offer? If so, what attracted you to wanting this tool?

Does anyone know if they accept debit cards? I've been trying with my visa debit and it's declining. I don't have a credit card!

Does anyone have an idea when we will be able to log into the detective?

OK, a little update. I just went to try to login and am getting a new message now. This tells me that they're working on the issue.

Hey CarlyTaylor - It sounds like Chris is a good guy. Maybe try emailing him about paying with Paypal. There have been a few times where I have emailed the marketer directly & they've always been helpful.

Just an idea
Ann

Another update for those who made it in. I just got an email from Chris about not being able to login. The server that creates the logins also crashed during the launch so they are doing it manually right now. Those who got in should be getting their login details soon.

Good luck to all!

Looks like it's back up for whoever is interested.

Google Cash Detective is now back up and Live! Sorry to anyone who had to wait to get access.

Its up since almost 90 mins now..

Hopefully, its going to be sold out
pretty soon!

People are SO motivated to buy!

Does anyone have a link to all the videos about GCD 2.0 so far? I'm particularly interested in the clickbooth video.

Hello everyone,
I'm a newbie and wanted to get in on the GCD 2, but once I got into the order page and looked at the payment plan, things don't add up.
1. Option 1 - $997 today and $97 per month thereafter
Option 1 With Payments of $350 per month and $97 per month

Looking at Option 1 with payments you are actually paying $1400 ($350 X4) + $97 per month say for the next 8 months which equals another $1164, so you are paying a total of $2564 for the year by going the payment route.

2. Option 2 $1997 Today and no other payments for the first year
Option 2 with payment is $547 X 4 = $2188
Am I missing something or is there some extra money that's going out of your pocket?

Let me know if I'm off base, I just think that it's a bit expensive and if you're trying to help folks give them the price stated.

Thanks

Yes, you are paying extra for the payment programs, which is to be expected. But the premium is pretty steep, on an annualized basis it is 20%+ interest (over 4 months it's like 60% apr).

It will be cheaper to just put whichever single payment program you want on your credit card and paying it off over the next year (provided your credit card interest rate is lower than 20%). Or if you pay it off over the next 4 months, it will definitely be much cheaper than using his 4 month payment plan.

EDIT: Sorry, not trying to sound like a broken record. It looks like a couple others responded with basically the same message while I was typing mine out.

toolleather,
If you go with the payment plan, you're going to pay a higher total amount for the benefit of lower monthly payments. This is pretty common practice. If you have the cash to pay the full fee up front, that's definitely you're biggest savings. But, some people can't afford to drop $1997 all at once, so they're willing to pay extra for the ability to pay over time. This would be the same thing if you were paying interest on a loan.


bidmarket,
You may want to go back and review the pricing part of the videos again. I think Chris made it very clear that there was a $997 joining fee with a $97 monthly fee for option 1. Option 2 is $1997 with no joining fee and no monthly payments for the first 12 months.


I'm certainly not a part of Chris' team, but I've been a long time customer and he's always been a man of his word.

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I think some of you guys may have your sums wrong on the costs of GCD. From what I can work out it's all pretty much of a muchness as to what option you go with re overall cost. It's just the annual costs a bit more up front money, but doesn't really cost you overall much more...

Monthly Option 1: $997 + 11 months @ $97 = $ 2064 for year
Monthly Option 1 (payment plan): $1400 (4 x $350) + 8 months @ $97 = $2176 for
year
Annual Option 2: $1997 for year
Annual Option 2 (payment plan): $2188 (4 x $547)

So all the payment options are quite similar costing less than a couple of hundred bucks extra for the benefit of paying over an extended period ...AND you with the Annual Option the Automator is thrown in free for life...

...just my penny's-worth.

poor show so far

No GCD
Conference call not available (full)

Login page not working for me. Just refreshes the page and my username and login are gone. Not a good start.

lol u got 2 see this thread: warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/63992-cheech-chong-anyone.html

WOW I was in the detective! Went to have dinner and to my surprise I can't log in, same problem as earlier..........

I sure hope it gets fix soon

I am wanting to order gcd through ppc classroom. when I click on the link that they sent me it takes me to one of Chris page where it says to click to go to blog. once there there is an order now tab at the bottom of the page. does that sound like what everyone else is seeing when they ordered from ppc classroom link. i would hate not to get their bonuses.

I got GCD 2.0 and can't seem to login...My account got approved and I got the email sent to me but I'm still getting this message when I try to login.

"Your GCD account is being provisioned. All accounts are verified manually. Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use."

Anyone else getting this error? I don't see a help desk or support page either to contact..

hey guys keep trying logging in once you are in then it will all be fun till you get tired.

Tips = don't logout for few days just kidding..

The entire Google Cash Detective thing has been going around the net like wildfire, the only thing I can say about them forsure is that they do know how to create some good buzz for there product.

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Maybe this question has already been answered?, my question is isn't GCD just going to cherry pick the best campaigns, flood them with new affiliates so that they quickly become just average campaigns?, surely this thing can't last long with hundreds or thousands of people chasing all the best campaigns?

I paid for it almost 10 hours back but still i am unable to login.Any of u facing same problem?

Awesome steveka! Very true as to how it is.

$350,000 is ... well there's no words to describe it.

I don't think even Windows Vista costs that much to make. LOL.

GCD2 is actually a very, VERY easily programmable script in PHP.

Guy in Romania will do it for $1,000 tops.

As for 27 servers... no comment.

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CarlyTaylor, the $79 tool that's falls under the criteria of "tool that does it all to spy on Adwords competitors" are: AdSpyPro.com, KeywordSpy.com

I won't mention SpyFu because KeywordSpy is way better, in that it's database is bigger and more keywords.

I can not believe people are even considering mention JP's Adspypro.

Why? Sure its cheap but you will need to spend atleast $50 / mth on a dedicated server.

Hostgator, Dreamhost, Hostmonster etc pretty much all the major resellers of discount 'shared hosting' DO NOT allow Adspypro to run on there shared hosting plans.

Adspypro kills the server resources by too many cron jobs, plus the built in proxy does not work 100% so when you are scraping the data from Google they will bann the connection.

So yeah, sure Adspypro is an option if you already your own VPS, otherwise forget it.

Can anyone tell me if the - log in issues with Google Cash Detective have been resolved as I am pretty close on making a decision to buy GCD.

Also, Still looking for one more partner to join a 'Mastermind Alliance'. This is basically a few of us pooling resources (money etc) to get access to Google Cash Detective at a discounted price.

Drop a line if you want access to GCDetective for about $140.

nope its not working yet

thanks mate.. not looking good.. hopefully this will keep the doors open a little while longer.

Also I was privy to some info on the Beta phase.. but am not sure if the use of GCA utilses AffiliateProphet right for all tracking? Is this now included in the membership or is that another cost on top of the GCD system?

cheers

Hey JayStarr,

RE: your PM - I don't have enough posts to message you back but the answer is yes.

You can get me on skype carly_taylor and we'll chat there.

Thanks

just to note we have had nothing as yet, not even an email about the problems.

I have had though an email from them trying to sell their Affiliate Mastermind Course

Guys,

I got it yesterday at 3pm EST and got in at 8pm.
I have be able to get in yesterday and right now without any problem.
Why you have ab issue? Maybe because Chris mentioned yesterday in email
that they have to insert registration info manually due to server crush?

I got in yesterday and it took about 5 hours to receive the final welcome email with login details.

don't know, not see any such email

no access

i'm sure it will get fixed, still for me seems odd that if you know you are going to limit numbers (i mean that wouldn't be scarcity in there...) that you don't size accordingly

I am so frustrated that I can't log in to the member area. No problem processing my payment though! That area was working just fine!!

i paid 21 hours ago, certainly taken the money

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did anyone purchase gcd through ppc classroom? did it work okay. i cannot get to Chris' order page.

Yes I did bidmarket, the problem is with GCD, you can pay but can't login. I am really at the end of my rope with this mess. When I pay such an outlandish price for something, I expect to be able to access it imediately!

Frank had a similar issue last year, but he came on here and contacted me direct via email to apologise, as well as emailing everyone to say sorry

keeping people informed is a must really

I'm not subscribed to many IM lists but the few who tried to promote GCD to me using hype and promoting false hope only got me to hit the unsubscribe link.

FYI: This is an email from Chris about registration issues:

date Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:09 PM
subject Your GC Detective Login Details
hide details 8:09 PM (17 hours ago)

Reply

Welcome to Google Cash Detective!

== Your Account Has Been Activated! ==

Sorry for the little login problem. This morning the servers
crashed due to all of the traffic, and our login system broke.
So we had to setup all of your accounts manually.

Whew my fingers are tired from typing! But we've got you
all setup and everything is working great now.

To login please visit:

members-gcdetective-com (replace - with .)

Alexander.

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nope doesn't work. I doubt they would manually enter peoples details.. surely as its in sql you just import your list, i used to do it all the time, but i don't know what issues they are having

maybe more likely they haven't been processing the names correctly and have lost user details, and are somehow having to trawl card processor lists, etc

Hmmm..hope my 30 day trial doesn't start until I can log in! I didn't get an email and I am ready to scream! Guess that's why they don't have a contact number eh

It looks like they have some problem again.
I was able to login 30 minutes ago but cannot right now.
There is the message after login:
====
Thank you for your order!

Your GCD account is being provisioned. All accounts are verified manually. Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use.
====
I will try it again soon.


Alexander.

the problem is that as usual the support tickets are hidden behind the members login area, bit of a downer if you can not get access really, do people not friggin learn from past mistakes?

Add to that not reading/responding to your aweber address and what you end up with is people with no access who can't complain.

I'm sorry but if amazon did this it wouldn't be acceptable on a $30 dollar book, but time after time it is seen as acceptable in the IM niche with products selling for $2000.

I sell a dvd set for $69, if they don't receive in 5 working days anywhere in the world you get it for free, i will tell you i make sure I don't give many refunds

I still can't login...got about 3 emails now from GCD2 support saying: "Your account has been activated! Go ahead and login!"

Everytime I try to login I get the same freakin message:
"Your GCD account is being provisioned. All accounts are verified manually. Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use."

Hmmm....If this keeps up I will be issuing a quick refund. This is pretty ridiculous that a $2k product isn't being supported properly.

I was going to set up a support ticket for everyone here but now I can't log in either. Hope this all resolves soon. On another note, 30 days never seemed like such a short amount of time until I associated it with the money back guarantee.

Oddly enough the payment processing is still working lol

Yep, I've noticed that too, just wish everything else worked also lol

The "Order Now" button is working but, I'm sure the refund request sever has crashed too! If I can't get access, I will be finding out the answer to that question also.

Soon we might need another type of detective, if you know what I mean...

quelle suprise *rolls eyes*

Actually I found this forum by searching "google cash detective unable to login", I suppose it's some consolation that at least it's not just me

I have got it again:

date Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:02 PM
subject Your GC Detective Login Details
hide details 2:02 PM (1 hour ago)

Reply

Welcome to Google Cash Detective!

== Your Account Has Been Activated! ==

Sorry for the little login problem. This morning the servers
crashed due to all of the traffic, and our login system broke.
So we had to setup all of your accounts manually.

Whew my fingers are tired from typing! But we've got you
all setup and everything is working great now.

To login please visit:

)

But it is still the same problem:

Thank you for your order!

Your GCD account is being provisioned. All accounts are verified manually. Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use.


)

I think we have to wait for at least 2 hours to give them time to fix the issue and
then to try login again.

You're right.. sorry I was saying it in a joking way to lighten the mood.

Really I give Chris the benefit of the doubt... I imagine this isn't turning out how he'd like it to at all, but he just needs to make sure he learns lessons from this problematic launch. Not just the server going down but the lack of communication with customers. I'm a little surprised he, or anyone else from GCD, hasn't posted anything in this thread... it is a bit like fueling the fire.

Hopefully we will all be able to make much more than $2k in the first month of using it so this won't really matter and we look back at this thread laughing.

Fingers crossed Yusuf

BTW
Yesterday evening I was able to go through all stuff we have seen in Chris' video by myself. It was pretty good experience. just didn't have enough time to try something.
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FYI: Here is overview video:
gcdetective-com/gcd3_videos/gcd3_overview/gcd3_overview-html

Hey Everyone,

I also am having issues, bummer.

That being said I will mention that it happens all the time with big launches. As others have noted were talking about thousands of people stressing the servers, that is the main issue.

Sure, everyone tries to plan and prepare ...

However once your live things are much different, I actually had access yesterday for a bit and this am. I have been studying videos and playing around, however I am unable to loggin once again.

Having been a full timer now for about eight years I kind of expect this stuff, no need to talk about refunds and all when it has only been a day or two. Let's give Chris some space to get everyone in and taken care of.

This is the email I just received from Chris:





He mentions nothing about the server/login problems folks are facing. I know he's got to know what is going on and how long it should take before things are up and running again.

Just my rant.

Anybody recieved ppc classroom bonuses?

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The same here:
Scheduled Maintenance... Please Check Back in 2 To 3 Hours

I could see how this could harm those who offered bonuses as affiliates with GCD also.. guilty by association in the minds of customers, which makes me more sure that Chris is not a happy camper either about all of this since it could hurt any future JV deals.

As far as I can see there are two main issues, one is the issue of signing up to begin with and the second is the issue of logging in once purchased. As far as the second issue, would it be a bad marketing practice to simply tell the people way beforehand or at least on the sales page: "Due to the possibility of overload, it may take 1-2 days before you can login," or something like that and then if you deliver on time then you're keeping your word.

This is opposed to saying (as it says on the sales letter):

"You receive Unlimited 24/7 Access to the Google Cash Detective System (You can start 'Finding & Cloning' other people's successful marketing campaigns minutes from now!)"

That seems like a much more safer and direct way of handling the potential overload, even if you've prepared for it on the tech side - which no doubt you should. This way in the end if you give people the ability to login immediately then you come out overdelivering, no?

I am still unable to login,when i enter details and click Login,i get the same window with both fields blank.

well lets be honest both JV partners and Chris have the cash, earning interest already, I doubt they are much worried about the people who have paid that much

"I am SO sorry for the login problems. We have it resolved for most people but there are still about 50 people without working logins. You must be one of them.

This is the email going out from GCD..I guess I'm one of the fifty! Has everyone else been able to log in? Please let me know.

interestingly the scheduled maintenance windows doesn't even give a time, just 2-3 hours, so effectively that could be left up for 2 days and with no contact/support who is going to know?

Still nothing here, can't login, and no further emails

FYI Guys,

You can get some of your bonuses here while you wait:
Google Cash Detective Bonus Area

Just something sweet for now...
)

That's if you can get in to request a refund

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Just received this email:

Hi Mike,

GCD is offline right now and will be for a few more hours.

We have found the log in problem that some members
were experiencing.

To fix it, we have had to take GCD offline, and we are
taking this opportunity to upgrade our servers too.

I expect to be back online this afternoon and
then we will be running at 110%.

Sorry about the rocky start for our new members,
and I apologize to everyone who has had a login
problem that has disrupted your service.


Thanks for your patience!

Talk soon,
Chris

Just got the same email...so again...we wait!!!

It would have been

Ya'll go ahead and get refunds, more opportunity for the rest of us to get to the good stuff. ;-)

well one has to wonder what performance we are going to get if you cant get users logged in? 35 servers and they need upgrading after one day?

The number of servers seems to change everytime lol

Hi guys
I got in as a beta tester, I have to say that the customer support and communication has been pretty much non exsistant- as most of you are starting to see for yourselves.
As for the product itself- in my opinion its just not worth the money, I'll be claiming a refund.

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nope nothing.. nada

Getting a new server requires at least 24-48 hours.

Did anyone else just get the JVs Big Results email? lol

Been almost 5hrs now, and still no joy

I can only hope for better news when I wake up, good night all

It's working again for me.

Are you pressing enter or clicking the button? It's strange but I noticed it works sometimes only if I click the button.

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Are there any specifics you want me to mention in the ticket?

Can't login either, and no further emails either

yep well 35 hours on not even an email of any kind and no access,and comments deleted from order page blog, which of course seems to work beautifully...

Yep, all the blogs work fine, just comment features got shut off lol

erm don't bet on it simplicityo

sheesh I can not believe GCD is still down.. heard it was working now.. Poor Media Temple servers are getting a hammering.. Thats the last time I host my account on the same host as an IM product launch.

Can someone post on here once they are successfully logged in and using GCD as I am seriously about to purchase this as it does look pretty fab even with the issues it still gets my vote.

btw.. I want to join under the best bonus offers (naturally) so far the best bonus I have found offers $1000.00 cash & Google advertsing credits. Heres the offer iGCDetective.com | Bonus

If you know a better bonus offer PM me the link pls.

PS :I'm glad I did not jump in on day one and buy as I would be pulling my hair out if I paid 2K and could not use GCD for this period of time.

I wonder how many thousands of memberships have been sold to this. It is going to be very interesting to watch the adwords on some of the more popular campaigns. Do you figure there are any affiliates out there running these long term, successful clickbank product campaigns that don't know what is about to hit them? Oh boy...

Folks if paying the price on this thing was a stretch for you, then you are going to be in for a very rude awakening. Do you have any idea how much cash you are going to need to run these adwords? I wouldn't even bother with the CB products as that is where most people will head with this. You are probably going to need to move towards the other affiliate networks to find a product that has the potential to payoff for you.

The down side of doing so is that you are going to be 4 to 8 weeks out on your commissions with many of these outfits. In the meantime your adwords bill is going to have to be paid, and paid again, and paid again. You better have a credit card with at least a $5k limit and probably closer to $10k if you are really going to make a play with this.

Adwords is not amateur hour. I am afraid that a lot of people are going to be sorely disappointed when they do finally get into this. I hope they tread lightly before they get in to deep.

I was able to get in yesterday, before the server maintenance but haven't been able to get in since. This morning I'm getting the need to be added by hand message.

Not much more we can do though as Chris is obviously aware of the problem. If I get in again I'll come back and post and hopefully we'll find that everyone's in.

Also, to those who were asking, I signed up through the PPCC bonus and have not heard anything from them either.

Cheers
Gillian

nope no login for me

no log in for me either. no news from PPC Classroom either.

Gillian

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wow 44 hours

8:00am and I STILL can't login to this program. Is anyone else successful at getting in?

It's working for me on and off.

you can see the videos without logging in

There is some glitch still.
I can login but after I did keyword search it kick me out - I login again and I can see
the search results but cannot use them bcz it kick me out every time I try to do
anything. I have to login again and again.

I cant, but late last night the login page had a link to the training videos on it, you can see those without logging in

OK Now it is working again!
See you inside guys!

Use Google Cash Detective

yep thats the one I use, no login

i doubt chris is a scammer, he appears to have royally fecked this up though, which considering the farce he had with GCD 1 by all accounts makes this particularly bad

Anyone get the email about tonight's live conference call? Seriously, I am just laughing at this point. Really...what can I say.

Classes for beginners?..how about a class on How to log the "F" in!

I was able to login, but whenever I do something I get kicked out. Looks like some progress is happening.

I'm in! Finally!!

See you there

Yeah just got it lol... It wasn't as funny as the email about the JV winners telling me about all the gurus who won all the prizes for getting so many people to join.

I also strangely received an email about how GCD is in Pre launch and how I can be an affiliate.. lol

hi Michelle

I'm laughing with you.. Loved your last line.

And guess what? I'm in again now and it's not logging me out every time I click on something.

So hopefully, you'll all be in soon. Hoorah, hoorah!.

Gillian

I just received the following email..Welcome to Google Cash Detective!

== Your Account Has Been Activated! ==

Sorry for the little login problem. This morning the servers
crashed due to all of the traffic, and our login system broke.
So we had to setup all of your accounts manually.

Whew my fingers are tired from typing! But we've got you
all setup and everything is working great now.

To login please visit:


I clicked through and was able to login.
Went to click on "Forum" was booted out.
Was able to click on the other tabs however I was booted out to the login on every tab I clicked on. However if I clicked on the login I was let into the tab. Very unstable.

LOL...watch out when you get in..stay on that page because if you click something, you will go back to the login page.

Since I've been able to get in it has been like that.. revolving doors.. and also there is a very short timeout period so make sure you're quick if you get up to go grab a snack or drink! .. lol

It once is working and then stop to work and then, in 5-10 minutes, it is working again.
It is still pretty raw product.

Really it looks like he launched too early, maybe to compete with other PPC products out there right now I'm not sure. But besides the mass control style launch and checkout page, he looks unprepared in all senses.

Texton, I don't view it as a "fix all" I hope to add it to the other tools that I use and learn from it. I too have "been had" but I've learned along the way, and I am not out anything because I didn't purchase anything that didn't offer a refund if it failed to perform as promised.
We shall see..

I own it, listened to videos, found only minimal clickbank campaigns to follow, tried to duplicate one of them using two ads and tested with direct link, my own landing page, and forward url. So far I am at negative $80 and the only click throughs were from my landing page adgroup campaign. All those highly traffic keywords, well from 54 tried, only 4 brought traffic. This is after 5 days of testing. Alas, more hype than not - IMHO as an active user. I was REALLY disappointed with the keyword selection as it showed high traffic on GCD (over 10k) but brought no traffic after 5 days on most of those words. And I had 1.5 ad position.

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Now that I'm in, you can't get into the forum. Is anyone else having luck with that?

It became pretty quite here. GCD2 is working and it looks like everybody is in and digging GCD2 to the T.
)

It should be working now for everyone. If anyone still has trouble logging in make sure they email gcdlogin AT gmail.com.

Getting in isn't the problem now. It's full of glitches, and quite frankly...I'm frustrated as heck.
1.I can't get into the forum, 2.Every time you go to a different place it takes you back to the login screen, 3. Pick a bunch of keywords and tell me what happens when you go to add them! Talk about pulling your hair out...waste of time, going to research the old "tried and true" way.

I hope they work this mess out soon

hey i am really very disappointed with GDC2...not even a single positive experience about it till now mentioned here..or is it too early?

Was not expecting this from Chris..

I can get in now, but like others have said, just as quickly get logged back out again, ho-hum

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Bingo!

Cloning does NOT guarantee success....

I just got kicked out and can't get back in.

I feel fortunate that I've been able to log in and play around since last night. But I've got to say that I am concerned about the questions I'm seeing during the live training sessions. It seems like a lot of people bought into this thinking it's going to be a get rich quick system. And a lot of the people who bought into this don't even know the first thing about PPC or even clickbank. There was even somebody who asked what Adwords is. That's scary.

as mentioned this is not a panacea, and I agree PPC is not a newbie playground. What it can do is give you information faster than you can collate yourself manually.

People need to understand basics like:

campaign mgt
bid mgt
keyword research
due diligence

get a ppc course and use this to reduce the speed to "market"

Back to this again: Scheduled Maintenance... Please Check Back in 2 To 3 Hours

While you are waiting please check out our latest training videos

looked like they were getting issues again

i have got out of bed for this

I am over this...totally!
Next time I log in, it will be straight for the support ticket, asking for a refund.

Best of luck to all of you who stay in there..hope ya make lots of money for all the aggravation that came with this over priced headache!

Now I get nothing at all: members.gcdetective.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again.

Just need to wait and see what the day brings, good night all

I hope there's a membership cancellation link for a refund. If you have to email him to do this as it was mentioned in his video, well, good luck with that!

My friend signed up to GCD and he mentioned that there's utter chaos on the forums...

tons of new people with questions, login problems, frequent maintenance windows etc etc - and not a single moderator to answer these questions. Funny enough, there has been no sign of Chris on the forum for 3 days.

It's weird that someone's spending so much time trying to push JVs to sell, when he should be on the inside helping people who forked out $1K or $2K to get access to the guy....

Not good at all....

after u login in gcd its on the right hand side at the top


well said sunny56

I agree with comments in here the number of people who don't even know how to set up ad campaigns and want a step by step guide on building a profitable campaign scares the bejeezus out of me.

I can see dozens of people who have thrown up ads recently presumably after getting GCD. What they don't understand and haven't picked up on is some stuff in the videos from prelaunch, where chris talks about not following the tide, etc

Some people are going to lose a shed load of money

On the tool itself it's very good but you need to have more knowledge, it certainly has mad my decision making quicker on campaigns to do. I can see campaigns where a great new landing page with squeeze will sell , and some direct linking campaigns

yes today at the moment things seem to be working fine and pretty quick

and just as I say that it falls over

honestly when I say newbies on there they really are, even down to not knowing about hosting, ftp, landing pages, etc

Lots of people asking for step by step instruction

Has anyone asked for a refund and been able to get a response?

Do the ppc classroom bonuses even exist? I havent heard from them and I *still* cant get in to GCD...not even ONCE yet.

Ther are 2 winners in this, obviously cc will be and google will make a killin too.

All on bidding wars because of the noobs who will redirect without there own domain.

Looks like a good time to invest in google stock.

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GCD is not a PPC bonus - click on bonus within the PPC Classroom site and partner bonus.

GCD is simply to make money, I dont think for a secound he put a high price on it so it 'wouldnt get flooded'

Not to mention Chris was telling us over and over again that they have MUTLIPLE SERVERS so there will be no down time as they can update it and still run it on another server.

Just because he sent 300k doesnt mean its any good. At my work the 'experts' got paid Millions on software that took over 6 years to get right!!

He's saying the GC4 Home Study Course videos are under training... yeah, the one with 4 videos and the message: Please note - we have many more videos to upload, and you can access our collection from your GCD/GCA membership portal."

And then there's the 12 Landing Page Templates... wait, make that only 2 for now.. still being worked on!

And then there is Google Cash Revolution! Check out the message: "The Google Cash Revolution package is almost ready (honestly!) It contains over 500 pages of quality ebook material, MP3s, videos, software, scrips and more. (Further information will be announced by the end of March)"Further information will be announced by the end of March" not "GCR will be released by the end of March" And what is the end of March? Well, it's like the week before the 30 day trial ends..

I have tried to request a refund
1. I emailed with all the information...no response!
2. I sent in a "high" priority support ticket...no response!
3. I called the number that shows on the charge...you can only leave a message...no return phone call!
WTH? Has anyone requested a refund and got any response at all?? Please answer.

The idea was a good one, but it looks like from this thread that things didn't go so well.

As far as I can see once you get in, it does seem to do everything Chris demonstrated in the pre-launch videos. The main complaints are:

1. the lack of being able to get logged in or stay logged
2. the lack of any serious organized training for the automator or detective
3. certain aspects are incomplete as I mentioned above with the GC4 videos, LPs and GCR course

With all that said I could imagine how those who are PPC veterans and know the ins-and-outs of setting up, tracking and maintaining campaigns, etc. have already made a few thousand... but I guess lets wait for those testimonials.

There is already heaps products that do the same thing, but with less of a price tag and some have even free functions such as keyword spy. Keyword spy time generator is for and gives me enough info to copy someones ads if i want.

Oh and Chris free training videos for PPC Clssroom members are only promo videos for GGD. All videos hes showing how great it is. At the end of the day GGD tell you that someone has run a campaign 95/100 days and that means its making money? Not quite.

Email gcdlogin@gmail.com and tell them if you haven't already... it might help.

Hmm... yeah, the number is not working.. err.. here's his number from the whois for gcdetective.com - 435-658-5057. If you want try that and let us know what happens.

Well..I finally got a response to my email...just an fyi

How was the response? Just curious no problem if you don't want to share.

I asked for a refund and this is what I got...

Many support departments for many companies take 48-72 hours more to answer support requests particularly with a new lauunch. No one is ignoring you. Why is it you feel so unsatisfied. These are some very very successful marketers with a top notch research and development team, lots of resources, and a desire (via evidence of the coaching & videos & blogs & more) to honestly help their members. That is hard to In fact, where else could that be found. We would hate to see you go as we are proud of our product and have the team to make it very very special and a history of doing exactly that and more. We are focused on the prize and it will be a great ride for all of us.

Hmmmm...no mention of my refund though

As a general rule I am not one to jump on the latest Guru offer. Based on the videos it's capabilities looked really good. Haha.. my other test is to watch the video with the sound down.... if a product still looks good without pitch then maybe it is...

3 days in and *** GC Detective Rocks The Free World *** . I *will* be canceling KeywordSpy and will probably cancel KeyCompete.

If you mainly sell Clickbank products, this probably is NOT the product for you.
If you do regular CPA then you better buy this FAST.

Clickbank:
So there are about 38k results for Clickbank. I haven't dug through them all yet (obviously, lol) but I have made a good dent. There are not that many results that make want to suddenly start pushing an offer. But, IMO that's because direct-linking to typical Clickbank products is a tough sell at best. Obviously it can be done, but in my case the ROI / ROEffort has never made it worth it.

The examples in the videos for cellphone detective / government records etc are not typical clickbank products.
1) They're cheap.
2) Their #1 USP is immediately and easily communicable.
So there is little chance of someone shopping around and it's easy for the prospect to believe that the product can deliver what they want.
It's really hard to convince someone you have no relationship with that they will be a millionaire by Thursday or that Tiger Woods will be calling them for Golf tips by the end of the summer.

Regular CPA:
Oh where to start.....
I am amazed how many people direct link! There are plenty to choose from... I found a direct link that has a PI of 59k!!! I realize that number is subjective at best, but certainly ad / keyword tenure is a good indicator for success especially if it comes from an affiliate.

But for me that is not the real power behind GC Detective...
When you find well performing Keywords / Ads it's pretty simple of find other offers that are being run by that Affiliate.

If your smart you'll be able to come up with a bunch of clues in an Ad URL that will help you find some really actionable data. For example... I'll tell you that Brad Callen is cleaning up with the phrase "Michigan SEO Services" ... well, he would be if anyone actually searched on it... but when they do, he cleans up .

Final Thoughts:
The data is *crazy* fresh... As in a few hours old.
It's easy to use and understand.
It's not soo easy to use that total newbs will suck up the power of this tool anytime soon (I hope).

Competitive Intelligence products are getting really good. It's almost to the point that someone / network / agency is gonna have to do something about this.
Oh... and if you're selling "Totally Hide My Affiliate A$$" ... I'm buying!

Mention that the guarantee says no questions asked if necessary.

Maybe the support team is busy reading the post inside the GCD forum from pissed off people who would like to know why it's a ghost town inside there, with no help or responses.

Trust me, I'm not the only disappointed buyer.

I have sent in three tickets, and at least a dozen emails...NO response. I received the one smarta** email that I posted...I replied and not a word.
I can chalk this up to a lesson learned...shame on me.

On to the CC company to file the dispute...what a frigging mess!

I hope Chris knows that if he doesn't get off his ___ and make this right, his name is MUD so he better hope he never wants to peddle another product!!!

Looks like it wasn't a joke when I said earlier that we may need another type of detective ... hope this works out for everyone, as well as for those of us trying to hold on and pull through.

So Chris is "out to lunch" when it comes to GCD issues. He is very on the ball though when it comes to promoting other products. Anybody else received his latest email spruiking Mike of the Butterfly club? Why doesn't he acknowledge that this launch has been a monumental stuff up? I made a conscious decision to take the 4 payment option 2 so I could see what was going to be delivered. Glad I did because with the Aussie dollar in the "can" it cost me $860 for payment 1. I learned my lesson on the Arbitrage C debacle and got my refund without a hassle because I had kept their ORIGINAL guarantee. I have Chris's too and intend using it if he doesn't offer a cogent arguement for his lack of response to our concerns. What I'm really angry about is how I allowed myself to feel so trusting towards him. My 2 cents.

I do not think that direct linking can bring you very far in internet marketing. Firstly, you would have to goes into a bidding war and you do not have any autonomy of your site. I was thinking that if everyone starts using GCD, it might end up IMers killing each other.

Just a point on this,I am disappointed on the refund front, I haven't requested one yet, but Frank Kern had this right on the button in his videos.

Fundamentally he said, if the customer complains do not argue with them, do not fight them, refund and move on. In fact his view was that if you refund without any arguments and immediately then they you may even increase trust.

If you come out and say "I am sorry you weren't happy, keep the product for the next 10 days free, and we will refund right away", they might come back, or they might buy from you again in the future.

It is that simple.

Frank had major issues with the first day of MC last year, but he solved quickly and offered a refund straight away to anyone who wasn't happy, NO questions asked

No more good news for this product? It should be a good tool, but....

GCD 1 was a bomb as well. Read this and this.. it's funny cause people are saying nearly the exact same thing this time around.

Well...still no response from any of the support tickets I've sent in, nor emails. Exactly how many emails do they have, and what's the point. They only send things for you to buy. They don't respond to anything! Here's how many I have...

THIS IS COMFORTING EH...

<chrisc@gcdetective.com>:
216.139.233.194 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.7.17)
Giving up on 216.139.233.194.

<support@gcdetective.com>:
216.139.233.194 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.7.17)
Giving up on 216.139.233.194.

I can't PM yet so to here is the page I ordered from which has his guarantee at the bottom.

The Terms of Service are here and they clearly state 30 money back guarantee no questions asked... yet as we see they asked Michele why does she want to leave, so it looks like a violation of the terms on their part.

I may be naive and that's why I'm embroiled in this fiasco AKA GCD. I am asking my ccc to put a charge back on my card. I've just received another email from Chris C promoting GoogleCash. Thought I'd click thru to see where it took me. Turns out its Clickbank and another link to PayDotCom. I'm wonderering if they are aware of what is going on with their client? Any thoughts?

I've just printed out the invoice for my GCD purchase...this invoice is from within the GCD program. It is issued through:

Intelli Response
12126 N. Ridge Rd., Mequon 53092, Wisconsin United States
Call Us: 1-414-397-5133
email: orders @ intelli-response dot com

Now as I'm in Australia I have no idea whether this is one of Chris's companies or is a legit shopping cart providor. Can anyone confirm if they are an independent organisation and if so would contacting them do any good?Your thoughts please.

The following links were at the bottom of an email from <chris AT affiliatejackpot dot com> that I received this evening. One takes you to Clickbank and one to PayDot Com


http colon //www dot googlecash.com/preparation/
and
http colon //www dot googlecash.com/index.htm?apid=A100002G&apflag=1&utm_source=learng ooglecash&utm_medium=email&utm_content=news5&utm_c ampaign=gc

Steve Scott is one of the people in GCD, he makes some of the training videos for GCA and also answers support tickets. He posts in the forums as well but not much.

BTW another discrepancy is that GCD was supposed to be limited in quantity, but that clearly is not the case and a proof of that is the "Final Push..." email Chris mailed out saying GCD will close on Monday at midnight. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, that means that between now and Monday midnight if 20,000 people sign up then they're in. So that's a time based limited not a quantity based limit, as opposed to what was stated.

I very well could promote this and make some money but how on earth could I sleep comfortable at night with promoting this mess especially once it has become so obvious? Maybe that part is taught in PPC Classroom, which is managed by the ones who made the most $ in affiliate sales? Pretty sad how there is no responsibility and accountability on behalf of all of the non-guru gurus claiming that they "want to give back" ...

Check out the Mequon address on Google Maps. Not very "Corporate"

Read this from 2007 when GCD1 was launched and flopped miserably. Discussion about how to get a refund from Chris... 100+ posts. lol

This is the number on my CC charge... 888-654-0760

It claims to be Google Cash, then it prompts you to hit the # that sends you to the so called "dept" your wanting, then you get "I'm sorry the dept you are trying to reach is unavailable, sending you to voice mail"

What a CROCK!!!

Try HelpDesk Pilot - Help Desk Software.

Yeah me too The strange part is it seems like they just wrote this yesterday... if the dates weren't on the posts I'd think they're talking about GCD2.

Just have to take it as a lesson to investigate before being convinced by all of the mass control style videos at the pre-sales page. I'm actually trying to get it to work for me so I don't have to request a refund but.. it's not looking good and it's not encouraging that he would even have this type of behavior to begin with.

Re Steve Scott Intelli Response
check out these links. Quite interesting...
http colon //www dot intelli-response.com/services.php
http colon //www dot gcdetective.com/new5.php

One leads to the other!

JunChic I hope it all works out for you. Please do keep us updated on the refund status and once you get it (hopefully), show what steps you took for others who need a refund.

It seems to me that Chris has rebranded

Finally...all my 50+ emails, support tickets and VM messages, must have gotten somewhere...this is the email I JUST received. I'll let you know if it really is credited back.

Hi Michele,

This is to let you know that your refund for the Google Cash Detective or Google Cash Automator has been processed.

Your credit card ending in ____ has been credited a total of $_______.

Please note that it normally takes between 3 to 5 business days to see it on your account.

Thank you,

Amy

Google Cash Support Team

Now we are cooking....ALL of a sudden, the emails start coming in..how about this one..

Dear Customer
<br/>
<br/> Hi-- We just got this request and the voice mail. Can we ask why you are asking for a refund after just a few days ? lso, these are some very very successful marketers with a top notch research and development team, lots of resources, and a desire (via evidence of the coaching & videos & blogs & more) to honestly help their members. That is hard to In fact, where else could that be found. We would hate to see you go as we are proud of our product and have the team to make it very very special and a history of doing exactly that and more. We are focused on the prize and it will be a great ride for all of us. Can I ask you to give this some more thought or let one of our coaches talk with you before making that decision

My response is...GIVE ME MY FRIGGIN REFUND!

Michele, I saw your posts on GCD forum (frustrated and need support). Good on you, keep them informed of what kind of "give-back-to-the-community" guy they are dealing with.

Am trying to submit more refund ticket.

They can delete my posts too...just get me my money and I wish the rest of them the best of luck!!

The bitter/sweet comfort I have is that, I'm not the only one that fell for this hyped up program. I kick myself for not doing what I normally do, which is research all possible information on something. Of course, this is what I get for going against my better judgment and jumping in with both feet.

I appreciate the responses and support, and I hope all who want their money back (including me) get's it, and for those who chose to hang in there and pay him loads of money...I wish you the best success with it.

Can anyone help me answer why PPC Shadow looks extremely similar to PPC Bully, or vice-versa? Even in the FAQ, etc. I emailed PPC Shadow this question and received no reply.

Why no response??? [TI-9B971]

Friday, March 13, 2009 3:14 PM

From:
"Support Team" <support-team@gcdetective.com>


BTW Steve...If I only sent a support ticket this morning, then how could I have posted the reply sent with this email...yesterday! Hmmm, little strange don't you think? Since YOUR support team clearly stated that it takes more than 24 hours to get a reply...something doesn't add up does it?

I don't appreciate being called a liar to save face for your unprofessional manner in dealing with so many upset people that spent money on a product that clearly was not ready.

Just make sure that refund get's back to me, and I'll gladly leave a post giving GCD credit for returning my $$$

So you're saying about 16 sales or so from about 235 clicks?
Direct linking?
Conversion rate of 14.6 to 1?

Will the GCD affiliate link come out on your next post?

Still waiting for Vstar to expand on his success story..

To Vstar.
It is really interesting to hear from you expanded success story...
Could you make it like a study case... )
And I'm a believer as Vstar that situation with support will get better soon...

BTW, I've got email from Chris - he is closing GCD2 doors on Monday, Mar. 16 at midnight.
Who is still interested to get in can take a look here: Google Cash Detective Order Page

Regards,
Alexander

To Vstar.
It is really interesting to hear from you expanded success story...
Could you make it like a study case... )
And I'm a believer as Vstar that situation with support will get better soon...

BTW, I've got email from Chris - he is closing GCD2 doors on Monday, Mar. 16 at midnight.
Who is still interested to get in you can take a look here: Google Cash Detective Order Page

Regards,
Alexander

Sorry for the double post - something was wrong with my connection.
(

Alexander.

I am little worried with the instability of the whole program. I'm searching for a while and it works fine. Then I conduct another search and it comes back with "0" results. :|

You miss the point. We are not talking $38 commissions here.
The only success stories, the only touting for this product are made by GCD affiliates who earn $450 plus per sale.

And this has occurred through out this thread from the day it was started.

And this has occurred through out every other forum on IM there is.

Vstar is one of two that have touted this product and provided numbers without an affiliate link but his numbers don't quite add up, thus the affiliate in your next post crack.

Yea, you can express your view all you want but the only people who will believe the swill are people, who at this point in their career, can't tell the difference.

Read the post there is plenty of other problems, I would say for 1 support tickets not being answered. Spending 300,000 $$ and not hiring enough people to reply to support tickets?

I originally belonged to the WF in 2005 and quit because of the snake oil salesmen like yourself that do nothing but take advantage of noobs. And at that time, me.
I've been in the game for 4 years now and call it the way I see it.

I rejoined about 2 months ago to research something and started to make relevant posts but got locked out. Some kind of computer glitch I guess, but you know what I mean of course.

So I had to re-sign, thus no posts.

But I see the same BS floating around so soon, I'll drop out again.
The noobs are such suckers, (no offense, been there done that) and the snake oil salesmen still can't sell anything on it's merits.

I have no other agenda then call it the way I see it.

And I'm not a competitor but have been around long enough to call a spade a spade.

You embarrass yourself trying insinuate that I must be a competitor to have an opposing view of your product. How could I possibly have negative things to say after watching the cool videos.


Just call me skeptical when people post their results. No one wants to spend a thousand bucks and tell everyone the truth. Especially on YOUR forum.

There are tens of thousands of phony results posted every day by either affiliate marketers, or some one who doesn't show their affiliate link on the first phony result post but will show it shortly there after or habitual liars who haven't told the truth since they got caught touching Suzie's private parts when they were 4 years old.

For 2 weeks we tried to get Beta testers to post here with results.
Not one came forward and dozens were reading.

I must have missed this part in the videos. I must have tuned out for awhile dreaming of living on the beach in Mexico because of all the money I make from PPC marketing.

Noobs, the truth of the matter is all of guys selling how to do PPC really did start out making money from PPC. But it's a tough game. It's much easier selling the how to guide or program and that's how they all now make their money.

Don't believe for a second they are still doing direct linking PPC campaigns. They don't have the time anymore.

I really laugh at this term. Are those the bonerouses that to get, you have to go through 3 pitch pages with offers to sell the programs you really need to make GCD work for you?

The same way they must to listen to you.

The difference is I'm trying to get people, mainly noobs, to think a little before they fork over their dough.

That in fact, if something is too good to be true, it's not.

That in fact, if you're not making money with PPC now, you probably just don't get it. And GCD isn't all of a sudden going to make that light bulb in your brain turn on.

Again, trying to shed a poor light on an opinion because I didn't fall for the cool video BS.



At least my opinion doesn't reek of self servicing bullshit like you and the rest of
the GCD affiliates do.