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How could a programmer help you?

by Simon Suh Banned
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I'm programmer focusing in web development. I don't have big dreams of becoming a marketer, but I am hugely interested in how a programmer can provide value to a marketer. Could you give me some paint points in your business that a one man programmer team can solve? No big programming projects, I don't own a team or anything, I'm just interested in what kind of jobs there might be available for a programmer in the internet marketing world similar to how copywriters look for jobs here. Thanks for your replies!
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  • Profile picture of the author djayturner85
    I would suggest promoting yourself on Upwork and just start out very cheap until you start to build yourself a good reputation.
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    It is a very nice look to me. Yes, i like this position because it is a popular site. All over the world i imagine that choose the site.
    Thanks every body.
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    With all the done-for-you solutions available for every aspect of running a business on the internet I, personally, have no use for a programmer. with that said, if I was a programmer, I would be looking into creating Wordpress plugins and themes to sell.

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  • Profile picture of the author absolutelee
    Basically by creating software that solves marketers' problems. Well, maybe not their problems, but the problems of their target niches. Selling software is hugely profitable!

    So, basically you need to partner up with a marketer who knows how to get your software out to the market.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Sometimes it's not really about the software, it's about what the software can automate for you.

    Example, I'm working on a project now where I'm not selling the software, I'm using the software to produce content.

    This way I don't have to deal with support for the software.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    You might find some work on Guru.com. I just pulled this sample.


    Web, Software & IT Freelance Jobs - Guru

    There seems to be a need.
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  • Profile picture of the author automathings
    Big data is what's hot right now and pays the big bucks. Any kind of business intelligence that gives marketers an edge is going to be in demand.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Ray
      Originally Posted by automathings View Post

      Big data is what's hot right now and pays the big bucks. Any kind of business intelligence that gives marketers an edge is going to be in demand.
      Big Data is a highly specialized field. The OP said he is a "programmer focusing in web development". Web developers don't do data science.

      Having said that, I have been trying to figure out a way to sell big data products and services to internet marketers but I had no success so far.

      You're right about that business intelligence and many other data science products would give marketers an edge. But marketers either don't realize that or don't have any money to pay for such products or services.
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      • Profile picture of the author automathings
        You are quite right. It's getting easier to do with tools like Microsoft Azure is developing, however.

        A company that I used to work for is using it to proactively know what finance products to sell its members when they talk to a consultant. That is so powerful and has so much potential..I wonder why Internet marketers aren't biting.

        However, it's still an early field; like Steve Jobs said "people don't know what they want until they see it" and "skate to where the puck will be, not where the puck is."

        I will definitely check out your site.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Ray
          Originally Posted by automathings View Post

          You are quite right. It's getting easier to do with tools like Microsoft Azure is developing, however.

          A company that I used to work for is using it to proactively know what finance products to sell its members when they talk to a consultant. That is so powerful and has so much potential..I wonder why Internet marketers aren't biting.

          However, it's still an early field; like Steve Jobs said "people don't know what they want until they see it" and "skate to where the puck will be, not where the puck is."

          I will definitely check out your site.
          Yes, data is extremely powerful. Working with data is like magic.

          I just did a data mining job for a big company. (not marketing related). It still amazes me every time I do complex data manipulations on data sets with 250M rows. It's kind of funny to think about this. I calculated that if I wanted to do that project manually, working on it 8 hours per day, 5 days a week, it would've taken me about 320 years.

          One of the MIT professors said in one of his lectures referring to doing data projects using Python: "This is the most fun you can have with your clothes on"

          I agree!
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          • Profile picture of the author automathings
            Originally Posted by Joe Ray View Post

            Yes, data is extremely powerful. Working with data is like magic.
            I took a business intelligence boot camp about ten years ago that covered pattern and cluster analysis. The instructor said that he did a job for a local grocery store chain, and his #1 recommendation was to put the beer by the diapers. Magic indeed!
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  • Profile picture of the author vedremo
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    I've hired many programmers in the past, but only experienced would really have need for ongoing work as opposed to per project:

    - A lot of front end good for split tests and tweaking conversions, landing page creation etc (as others say, usually marketers prefer drag & drop editors / optimizely etc)
    - Occasional back end manipulation e.g. if else statements based on purchases/browsing history
    - Installing software / setting up AWS / email deliverability etc
    - App / plugin / bot creation
    - Customise out of box software
    - GA & ads set up (for the IM novice)
    - Data science / scraping

    SaaS product creators would definitely have the ongoing work, but then again most of these are "lifetime" one time purchase products, which means that in 2-3 years(at most) they generally stop updating.
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