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Anyone Still Working With Clickbank?

by Tommyg123
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Hi,

I know Clickbank has been a huge success over the years, particularly the early years of affiliate marketing, but looking at the products they dont seem to have moved with the times. They all look horrible. Spammy looking sales pages promising some pretty snake oil type promises.. "get rich", "grow muscles", "invest into a forex robot and it makes all your money for you". I wouldn't buy anything from there and nor would anyone i know. Is it still a good place to start?

Ive dabbled with aff marketing before. Did Youtube vids for CB products, sold nothing. Tried CPA with PPV and after about $100 in advertising made about $4 but i know it can be done, just want to know what is a good marketplace.

I know in marketing we shouldn't use our own biases/sample sizes to generalize. But also you have to use your common sense and its pretty hard to sell something you think looks like junk.

But, it has been known for me to be (very) wrong about stuff. Unfortunately i dont know anyone involved in IM so only have forums to try and gauge what is good or not.

Anyone still getting much joy from it? I dont really know where to find affiliate offers for digital products other than CB, everyone always seems to talk about CB.



Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author DeadRooster
    Instead of looking for something on clickbank that might make you some money, try looking up some of the leading authorities in your niche and see if they have an affiliate program no matter what marketplace they're on.

    ClickBank has some good products, but the above approach is probably a better way to find them than just searching the ClickBank marketplace hoping to find something good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
      Originally Posted by DeadRooster View Post

      Instead of looking for something on clickbank that might make you some money, try looking up some of the leading authorities in your niche and see if they have an affiliate program no matter what marketplace they're on.

      ClickBank has some good products, but the above approach is probably a better way to find them than just searching the ClickBank marketplace hoping to find something good.
      Hi,
      Yeah i was thinking the same actually. Far better to look at at products or services I know to be good quality. If the product was able to sell to me chances are I know the type of person that could also buy it.

      Still cannot believe people think they can bypass science and cure their back-pain/infertility problems by buying off a website that has a white board video talking about hidden ancient cures etc. To me at least, seems like a total con
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve L
    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Hi,

    I know Clickbank has been a huge success over the years, particularly the early years of affiliate marketing, but looking at the products they dont seem to have moved with the times. They all look horrible. Spammy looking sales pages promising some pretty snake oil type promises.. "get rich", "grow muscles", "invest into a forex robot and it makes all your money for you". I wouldn't buy anything from there and nor would anyone i know. Is it still a good place to start?

    Ive dabbled with aff marketing before. Did Youtube vids for CB products, sold nothing. Tried CPA with PPV and after about $100 in advertising made about $4 but i know it can be done, just want to know what is a good marketplace.

    I know in marketing we shouldn't use our own biases/sample sizes to generalize. But also you have to use your common sense and its pretty hard to sell something you think looks like junk.

    But, it has been known for me to be (very) wrong about stuff. Unfortunately i dont know anyone involved in IM so only have forums to try and gauge what is good or not.

    Anyone still getting much joy from it? I dont really know where to find affiliate offers for digital products other than CB, everyone always seems to talk about CB.



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  • Profile picture of the author RefuseToLose
    CB has and always will be a snake oil haven.

    That's not to say that there hasn't been some good products on there, but it's basically a place where people create shitty info products, throw them up on the CB marketplace and get newbies to sell them.

    It's basically the big brother to the WSO section that handles every niche instead of the MMO niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
      Originally Posted by RefuseToLose View Post

      CB has and always will be a snake oil haven.

      That's not to say that there hasn't been some good products on there, but it's basically a place where people create shitty info products, throw them up on the CB marketplace and get newbies to sell them.

      It's basically the big brother to the WSO section that handles every niche instead of the MMO niche.
      This is too funny because I was just replying over here and did not even see this thread yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Clickbank actually is a goldmine. However, you do need to dig deep to find the gold.

      Perhaps the biggest problem is the hype so common on the vendor sales pages.

      One solution I found to be effective is to reset prospects' expectations and conspicuously emphasize Clickbank's unconditional money-back guarantee.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Clickbank actually is a goldmine. However, you do need to dig deep to find the gold.

        Perhaps the biggest problem is the hype so common on the vendor sales pages.

        One solution I found to be effective is to reset prospects' expectations and conspicuously emphasize Clickbank's unconditional money-back guarantee.
        Yeah. Perhaps they could give more data on the sales figures of the product. I mean 'gravity' is useful but just because a product has a recent purchase doesn't mean there wasn't a huge gap between the previous purchase.

        Obviously I respect they can't give exact figures. But some sort of hard data is needed because just writing 'conversion monster' in the bio means nothing and actually damages the reputation of the product if anything I think
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          I have not found any of the metrics published by Clickbank to be necessary for selecting products except the price and commission. Any additional information such as sales figures would be equally as useless.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by RefuseToLose View Post

            CB has and always will be a snake oil haven.

            That's not to say that there hasn't been some good products on there, but it's basically a place where people create shitty info products, throw them up on the CB marketplace and get newbies to sell them.

            It's basically the big brother to the WSO section that handles every niche instead of the MMO niche.
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            I have not found any of the metrics published by Clickbank to be necessary for selecting products except the price and commission. Any additional information such as sales figures would be equally as useless.


            Agreed, I could care less what anyone else is or isn't selling. If a CB product is relevant to my traffic I'll test it for sales. I don't take anything less than 50% commission. Drawing the line down the middle (50%) is as fair as it gets. I have traffic, the CB vendor has a product, 50/50 split.

            I also make it a point to avoid anything associated with the IM niche. Not interested in refunds.
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            • Profile picture of the author myob
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              I also make it a point to avoid anything associated with the IM niche. Not interested in refunds.
              This exactly. ^

              There are numerous niches on Clickbank which are a hellava lot more profitable than IM.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            I have not found any of the metrics published by Clickbank to be necessary for selecting products except the price and commission. Any additional information such as sales figures would be equally as useless.
            Not even gravity? I think you mentioned in the past that low-gravity products sell best.
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

              Not even gravity? I think you mentioned in the past that low-gravity products sell best.
              Gravity is so easily manipulated that it's worthless as a metric. Low gravity products tend to be closer to reality, rather than the inflated returns that bring ponzi schemes to mind.

              Getting back to the OP, finding a product and then seeking the market is far more frustrating than finding a market, especially one with a gap or underserved segment, and then seeking the product.

              Keep in mind that affiliate commissions of 50-100% are never offered purely from the goodness of the vendor's heart. They have to offer that kind of commission, both to compensate professional affiliates for the work needed to effectively promote the products and to dazzle newbies with visions of easy wealth.
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            • Profile picture of the author myob
              Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

              Not even gravity? I think you mentioned in the past that low-gravity products sell best.
              I don't remember ever saying that low-gravity products sell best, per se. However, most of the top selling products in all of my niches coincidently happen to be low gravity (under 5).

              Perhaps because there is less of a chance for affiliate pollution with low gravity, but that seldom is a search criterion. Sometimes I will search for a gravity of "0" for that reason and also to find new or "overlooked" products.
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      • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
        Having never worked with Clinkbank personally what would you recommend using as a guideline criteria in order to find the "Golden Offers" on Clinkbank?
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by DURABLEOILCOM View Post

          Having never worked with Clinkbank personally what would you recommend using as a guideline criteria in order to find the "Golden Offers" on Clinkbank?
          I have never found any "Golden Offers" on Clickbank, nor would I ever promote such products. My own company products (MLM) is the ultimate in golden offers.

          The criteria I use to select products is rather simple: relevance to my niche audience, no leaks on the sales page, no recurring sales, and minimum 25% commission.
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            The criteria I use to select products is rather simple: relevance to my niche audience, no leaks on the sales page, no recurring sales, and minimum 25% commission.
            Why "no recurring sales"?

            The rest make perfect sense, so what am I missing?
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            • Profile picture of the author myob
              Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

              Why "no recurring sales"?

              The rest make perfect sense, so what am I missing?
              It's just a personal preference, and what I teach systematically to my MLM downline. Selling Clickbank products is my primary method for building and solidifying niche lists.

              Providing value to my own subscribers is the overarching objective, and recurring Clickbank products is a distraction to this relationship.

              As mentioned previously, this strategy progresses incrementally towards much higher end affiliate products (ie Amazon, CJ, Shareasale, etc), and ultimately to my MLM opportunity.

              In essence, Clickbank is just a marketing tool and self-funding lead generator. I have no intention of building anyone else's list except my own.
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            • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
              I'm kind of puzzled too. Most of the clickbank products I promote pay recurring income.
              Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

              Why "no recurring sales"?

              The rest make perfect sense, so what am I missing?
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              • Profile picture of the author myob
                Originally Posted by tyronne78 View Post

                I'm kind of puzzled too. Most of the clickbank products I promote pay recurring income.
                The reason I prefer to avoid recurring Clickbank products is they are usually distractions to my marketing process.

                I promote a wide spectrum of Clickbank products to my various niche lists (currently 400+) as self-funding promotions for my flagship products and MLM opportunity.

                Avoiding recurring products is just one out of many tactics I use to minimize vendor interference and drawing off subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
    They still send me money. But it was always a big pain in the ass to sell on, promote and navigate. Most of the products are crap with crappy sales pages to match...lol

    Obviously every platform is gonna have junk on it. But at least make the site easier for affiliates and sellers to navigate and use.

    JV Zoo did a great job at this back in 2010-2012. I think sites like Udemy really stepped up the game. But most of their products are by sellers that breezed through someone else course and made their own...lol

    But you will get that on any platform.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robsn
    Check out CBengine.com to look for the best offers on clickbank!

    Clickbank can be a goldmine if used right. You just need to find the right offer for the right audience.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Robsn View Post

      Check out CBengine.com to look for the best offers on clickbank!
      CBengine is worse than useless for looking for "best offers". They have no more insight than what Clickbank publishes, and really is nothing more than another promotional gimmick for vendors.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Hi,

    I know Clickbank has been a huge success over the years, particularly the early years of affiliate marketing, but looking at the products they dont seem to have moved with the times. They all look horrible. Spammy looking sales pages promising some pretty snake oil type promises.. "get rich", "grow muscles", "invest into a forex robot and it makes all your money for you". I wouldn't buy anything from there and nor would anyone i know. Is it still a good place to start?

    Ive dabbled with aff marketing before. Did Youtube vids for CB products, sold nothing. Tried CPA with PPV and after about $100 in advertising made about $4 but i know it can be done, just want to know what is a good marketplace.

    I know in marketing we shouldn't use our own biases/sample sizes to generalize. But also you have to use your common sense and its pretty hard to sell something you think looks like junk.

    But, it has been known for me to be (very) wrong about stuff. Unfortunately i dont know anyone involved in IM so only have forums to try and gauge what is good or not.

    Anyone still getting much joy from it? I dont really know where to find affiliate offers for digital products other than CB, everyone always seems to talk about CB.



    Thanks

    Clickbank has a ton of different offers and different niches.
    If you don't like certain offers or niches, there are hundreds more to choose from.
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  • Profile picture of the author unlimitedoptions
    Hi:

    I have had good success with ClickBank. As with any company or product line, some of their products will be good and others won't. It's up to you to sift through the junky rocks to find the gold.

    Most successful affiliates actually buy and try the product before recommending it. It does cost to do that, but you can always use the 30 day money back guarantee to get your money back if the product doesn't live up to your expectations.

    Click Bank can't be all that bad and still be in business over 20 years. If it were total trash then the markeplace would have voted with it's wallet. Affiliates wouldn't be promoting it and returns would be through the roof.

    It still has merrit when the affiliate looks, finds, tests, and recommends a product that they have tested and actually stand behind.

    Good luck,

    Dan
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
    Clickbank is good yet.

    Of course lot of programs are scam, as in the other marketplace.

    But it's the most largest and oldest in the internet.

    So try to promote products with high gravity, test them, and about a NICHE that you really confident with.

    And of course....it depends also on the size of the list you have, on the relationship with your prospects.

    Try to check if it's not about the email marketing campaigns you do instead of clickbank itself
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  • Profile picture of the author Tesslady
    Clickbank still manages to give joy despite the bad products it has. However, there are still really good ones perfect for the niche you are in. You just have to explore, explore and explore.

    You can find more products in CJAffiliate or JVZoo.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    Does PPC traffic work for clickbank.
    My strengths are I'm analytical. Love the idea of researching keyword metrics. Analysing data on click through rates and building PPC campaigns.
    I also have money to invest.

    My weak points are I am impatient. The idea of building a blog for 6 months before I get any good traffic (if any at all) bores the hell out of me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pinkysoll
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    I agree. Clickbank is stuffed with bad products that aren't even worthy of promoting. But you know what, there are still few great ones out there. All you have to do is find them and never lose hope in doing so, as they lie in the deepest depths. lol
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    Yes I've had a bit of a CB revival after a few wilderness years. I should take more time to find good products on there - often they are in the less "busy" categories.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    I also work with clickbank and yea they have a lot of spamy products but they have also good products ,you can try also jvzoo comision junction shareasale etc
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  • Profile picture of the author shmol
    While it is true that a lot of the products are, junk, I know I have found several, several, good products in my niche.

    It did take me a while to find them--but, they are there if you keep looking.

    Hope this Helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author micknal29
    I have tried promoting CB products for years with little success - the best option I have found, at least for beginners, is to try and promote new and up and coming launches of products, which you can find on this website muncheye.com

    Most of the offers are from JVZoo, Warrior Forum and some Clickbank - Start with some lower cost products so you can have a better chance of getting a review copy - but this seems to be a good way to promote something that isn't completely saturated yet!

    Thanks

    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author Robsn
      Originally Posted by micknal29 View Post

      I have tried promoting CB products for years with little success - the best option I have found, at least for beginners, is to try and promote new and up and coming launches of products, which you can find on this website muncheye.com

      Most of the offers are from JVZoo, Warrior Forum and some Clickbank - Start with some lower cost products so you can have a better chance of getting a review copy - but this seems to be a good way to promote something that isn't completely saturated yet!

      Thanks

      Mike
      I totally agree with you! This is by far one of the easiest ways to get started as a beginner. Simply check out muncheye.com what is launching in a couple days, try to get a review copy and make a little review video about it, upload it and wait for the traffic to come.

      If you're not able to grab a review copy, you still can make a "review" video about it, by taking a couple screenshots from the sales page and put together a slideshow with the built in youtube studio creator.

      It won't be a "real" review, but still will be able to get some traffic to your affiliate link.
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    I made over $10,000 on $1,000 with FB ads selling wood she plans (a CB product)

    all you ******* new people dont want to do any work...all you want to do is direct link to a popular product and hope you make money.

    You have no idea who your audience is
    You have no idea what your demographic is
    You dont want to build a sales funnel
    And you most certainly dont want to spend a ******* dime getting quality traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by rjd1265 View Post

      I made over $10,000 on $1,000 with FB ads selling wood she plans (a CB product)
      I've heard people say they were horny enough to "do" a knothole, but this is the first time I've seen plans to deliberately build one!

      [That's a, I say, that's a joke, son -- Foghorn Leghorn ]
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        I've heard people say they were horny enough to "do" a knothole, but this is the first time I've seen plans to deliberately build one!
        To reach a broad market, plans for add-ons or reinforcements could be included as a bonus for those with an inadequate tool to withstand the rigors of "doing" a knothole.
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