Thanks for good sharing, I think now a days, some people are still looking for the magic pill which can get result fast.. or maybe they are still comfortable with they current comfort zone and not able to commit to make a change

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Just because they stopped participating here at the forum does not mean they quit internet marketing. Warrior Forum is not the "Be all End all" of intenet marketing. They probably just moved on to someplace they could actually get valuable information

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Many people are looking for who will motivate them.

But motivation doesn't help in the long term. Discipline does.

You have to discipline yourself and continue no matter the obstacles.

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Actually, I know of some brick-and-mortar businesses that start from negative due to the loans they take to put everything together even before the first customer comes in.

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telling stories of 'how I failed'. You learn from winners, not quitters.

Why do they quit?

Because they think it's going to be easy. That some magic Easy button is out there on the internet, and all they have to do is pay someone $27 and the secrets will be revealed.

Then they discover that's a marketing lie, and get disillusioned. Yet they continue to believe there are secrets out there, but the gurus aren't sharing them!

THERE ARE NO SECRETS

You need to approach this as a job. If you were apprenticing in a trade, you'd expect to work for years before learning the role and being competent in it. Why is it different here in online marketing?

Having observed people in this forum for a decade, yes, 10 years of watching you folks...

... most give up because they believe the source of success is outside of themselves.

They think it's in the "click here do this".

NO.

If success was mechanical, everyone would be rich.

If it was a simple matter of "go here, type this in and you'll make money", everyone would be successful with online marketing.

YOU are the source of success (or failure). Not some external thing.

Your persistence is what's most important.

Not plugging away at the same thing year after year, when it's clearly broken and not delivering results. Instead, keeping your goal but learning more, testing more, and changing your approach.

Not leaping from thing to thing, getting temporary Messiah Syndrome about the latest thing to come along ("Whiteboard videos! Google hacks! What color matters on the page?" -- none of this stuff really matters in the long run) and then getting dejected when your latest magic Easy button doesn't work in three days.

I've explained it time and time again here, but few want to try to understand--even though it is not complicated. Of course the people who are successful get it and agree.

You need a lead generation system. Where are people going to come from to see your offer? Figure it out.

You need a qualification system. How are you going to filter those people brought in by leadgen to separate those who are likely to buy from those who are not?

You need a conversion system. How will you help some of those qualified prospective customers to buy? What method will you use?

And you need a fulfillment system. In what way will you deliver on the promise you made in the sale, so that your customer gets what they paid for?

Hardly anyone sticks around to figure these systems out.

They buy some magic bullet, full of Messiah Syndrome that THIS is The One... only to find out but not realize fully that it is only a single part of one of these systems. A piece of leadgen. A bit of conversion. Some chunk of fulfillment. There is no such thing as a Business In A Box despite what the marketing will shout at you.

You want to succeed in online marketing?

Get to work on those systems.

What problem will you solve, and for what kind of person?

Where will you find them? How will you get some of them to come from wherever they were to your piece of the internet?

How will you separate those who will never buy from those who have bought things before and shown they are buyers?

And in what way will you induce those who are likely to buy to actually pull the trigger?

Finally, what method will you use to give them what they paid for?

Take stock and figure these things out.

Now the good news:

The flip side of this barrier to entry stuff is that once you've figured it out, through persistence, learning and adjustment, filling in these four system and getting a well-oiled machine running, it's a MOAT.

A protective moat against competition.

Why?

Because very few people are going to last. Few are going to bother to stick with it and figure it out. So few.

I've been watching and helping for 10 years. So few stick with it. It's agonizing to watch, really.

The leap into Messiah Syndrome, over and over again, that I've observed with individuals. THIS time, THIS product, THIS magic method... and that energy sadly exhausted and burnt out in just three days of non-persistent action.

You need a lot more than that.

As the founder of the Operational Excellence Society, which I'm a board member of, told me: launches are loud and messy. They aren't as fast as you'd think, either.

Are you prepared to stick it out?

Are you ready to commit to yourself, rather than some dumb marketing ploy, as your source of success?

Are you focused on developing those four systems for your business?

If you're not, you're destined to fail.

As has been pointed out, leaving here is NOT any indication of quitting, it just means this forum isn't suited to them. I'm on my third incarnation as a Warrior, having died of disgust, boredom, or when my tolerance tank got so full I couldn't handle it any longer.

So I left. QUIT. As for a new person coming and going so quickly, it may be overwhelming, and so much conflicted information too. So, this forum doesn't meet their needs. I'm unwilling to call them quitters.

Although, just as in the real world, where a significant % of businesses fail too, and if one includes all the starts, like with MLM/Network type businesses, the % is very high.

It stands to reason online would be at least the same as offline, and because it is so easy to be online and to START something, it is easier to quit.

I think Jason covered all the reasons, the main one being Internet Marketers have mastered the selling to the Herds. And the herd is huge online getting bigger by the day. In fact, it was this place which offered one of the very first HERD reports (quite good stuff too).

Also, it has been pointed out, offline, many people put SKIN IN THE GAME, and start in debt, or on borrowed money, so they have that obligation to meet too.

I think everything is where it should be.

All the info is available. All the ways and means to make money are known.
All the case studies one would ever need are in plain sight.

We cannot browbeat common sense into each other. And as far as satisfying anyone's curiosity about WHY some, many, or most do what they do...is an exercise in futility, there is no answer even if you do understand.

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Because we start out thinking it's magic. And thinking magic is real.

Then we start learning that it's a long complex series of steps that no longer feels like magic, but drudgery. And it isn't what they signed up for. So they go to the next shiny object.

But the ones that are successful are attracted to the work, more than they are attracted to the fantasy. That's why they keep learning and applying what they learn, after they make enough money to survive.

Penn Jillette (of Penn & Teller) once said in an interview that he is regularly asked how the magic is done. And he said that without exception, when he starts explaining the trick itself, they lose interest. Why? Because it's work. It's far harder in the preparation than the audience would suspect. It's drudgery, endless practice.

Malcolm Gladwell said that it takes an average of 10,000 hours of practice before you are great at something...three hours a day for ten years (on average).

And most of us, at the beginning of our endeavor (no matter what it is), get bored and tired way way before anything approaching 10,000 hours of work.

It isn't exactly laziness. But lack of sustained interest. Or the lack of a driver that makes the work an obsession.

That's a guess.

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I feel that most people quit at things for
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most of us want instant gratification.

There is a rare human trait called

Sticktoitiveness

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this important quality if you plan to be
successful in business and in life.

This is the one that hits it for me, thank you!

If you start with the mindset as a consumer, you want to have it, fast and easy, then your chance of failing will be much higher. But if you start with the mindset as an employer, you do understand that the path you take might not be without bumps, so you invest, fall start over and build your business.

Sure there are many other grounds as well, but this thought I will take with me.
I like the simplicity of it and I can use it when interviewing candidates.

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Show us proof they gave up.

Too many people think they will become instantly rich while doing the absolute bare minimum.

This isn't how it works. No successful business has ever just fallen into somebody's lap.

I had big thoughts and ideas about starting my own services. I started gathering data for places I wanted to target but as time went on, I got lost in my employers work and didn't get many peers power to initiate my own services and lost hope as well.

Marketing is like building .You have to lay the foundation and build upon it .Some people get into marketing thinking they can make a quick buck but it is not that way .Those kinds of people don't understand about building relationships trust in order to make money .

Most people quit because they need money fast but business is not quick money so they end up going back to their jobs that pay fast.

People quit because they don't succeed. They don't succeed because they chase rainbows. The ones who give a real go, fail because they simply aren't cut out for it, which is perfectly fine of course.

I always wanted to learn how to play an instrument. How many people around the world have had that thought? Why didn't they do it? Why didn't "I" do it? Too much work. I didn't want to put the work in. I wanted to just play. Such a shame I couldn't just pick up a guitar and play.

There are other reasons: They started with the 'details' instead of the picture; like trying to solve a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle with no picture on the box to guide you.

If more people started with the picture to guide them (business vision) they would still struggle, but at least they would know where they are going.

But since most people never get that picture (starting with the end in mind), they are always uncertain about their actions. Where is it leading? Am I progressing? Are these '' pieces Johnny sold me supposed to be here? How would I know? That uncertainty festers many other symptoms like frustration, lack of belief, overwhelm.

Your question implies that so many people shouldn't quit. But the reality is, it's predictable and very much expected that so many people will quit. It's not an anomaly or something outside the norms. It's inevitable.

With no clear vision from the start, you could end up with 10 different domain names, 4 different social media accounts, a couple of half-arsed blogs you lost interest in... all created in isolation. All the result of gobbling up pieces of other people's puzzles and trying to bash them together, hoping that some day, in some way, a business (the picture on the box) will magically pop into existence.

Start with the picture, then move through the details. Most people start with the details and hope a picture will materialize.

Business online? I think that you can't be rich in 1 day, business is business.

By the way you can use web properties and make big profits daily, without capitals.

For me, I have been "wanting" to get into online business for years. Tried several different things and quit. Most of the time I would quit, it would be because I didn't think I would be good enough.

Now this was predicated on the fact that I too, was a "consumer" with an "employee mindset". Even though I own my own offline business and it is successful, I want to find the best person to follow and learn from, only to find another person who claims to be better and smarter. It's a vicious cycle that somehow fills my tank, sorta.

I agree that starting/doing/following through would allow me to be successful online. There are so many distractions and people touting to teach the best things that I fall victim way too easily.

However, I think that part of it is like my opening statement...I don't think I am/will be good enough. When I decide to start some online project, I get all gitty and ready to make my mark. I start, and do the things that I have learned, building some site. Inevitably, I get to some hurdle (I like hurdles). I set out to find a solution, and in the process find out I did something already that needs to be fixed, updated, edited, changed, etc. Then I keep going deeper and deeper learning more about next steps until finally, I have seen hundreds of people online who are already doing this, and way better.

Woe is me, why would anyone want to buy from me? Visit my website? etc. etc.

This self-pity and lack of self worth are what usually stop me from moving forward. So please hear me, I am blaming this on myself, not others.

Just trying to explain what it has been like for me for years. Part of the reason I joined this community was that I wanted to get involved, commit, and not give up on something. Learning here has been invaluable to my sense of worth, too. Seeing that so many others are successful and hearing over and over that, I just need to START, and be consistent helps me so much!

When will that happen? You joined a month ago and clearly have been involved and asking questions and joining discussion....WHEN will you start? No time like the present to make your move.

Have you looked through the "Warrior Path" section? There are experts there but also newbies. Even there we see more people talk about doing something than actually doing it....but there are real successes there, too.

Have you considered setting a reasonable goal of sales or site visits or list building or product development....and using a Warrior Path thread to list your plan and be responsible for updating so member can follow you and help with advice?

The goal can be 30 days, 60 days or 90 days or whatever you want - read the rules of that section. It's not a rah rah part of the forum - it's an action plan you come up with and YOU follow and document. It might be enough to get you started. You can have a simple plan and then follow that success with a new plan in a new 'path'. That section is designed for members to move ahead and hold themselves responsible.

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Agreed, and this reminds me of something Seinfeld said in the documentary "Comedian." IIRC he was discussing the unproductive idea that comics need to wait for inspiration to hit before they're able to write/craft their next joke, and he said something to the tune of, 'construction workers don't want to go back to work after lunch. But they're going. That's their job. If they can exhibit that level of dedication for that job I should be able to do the same'

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It doesn't have to be 'end of day' - you can set a deadline of 'end of week'...it's just important to start somewhere. People here love to talk about

'motivation' but the best motivator I've ever found is to start doing something. One thing leads to another and before you know it - you're on your way.


Set reasonable, even easy, goals and then when you reach those - start another 'path' thread and higher goals. There are a lot of people here to help if you get stuck.

Hi there, I haven't quit I totally commited

Most people quit because they never had what it takes to finish...before they started.

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That's true. Quitting is very easy and if you are really serious, then make a plan and execute it and BE SUCCESSFUL in it. Period.

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#1 Reason = Push button mindset.
They think making money is like setting up a bitcoin rig that do the job itself while they will be playing games , Netflix and chill

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It's because true marketers are born, not made. And those who are made, believed someone else's story and that was not good enough to make them, keep walking. When you don't flinch, failure is not an option.

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He wants to make money from the Internet, but he is not a believer in it!
Believing in something means making every effort to achieve what we want
Working on the Internet is more difficult (from my point of view) than real work because you are dealing with people you do not see with your eyes and you see their expressions and tone of speech through which you may sell something directly.
On the Internet, the situation is different, you need to understand it without seeing them and guessing what they might do on your page, and this is the secret of selling online.
I hope I got something from the truth.

People quit a lot of times because of a lack of purpose, I have seen it with other people and by experience. If people don't feel that their efforts are not going anywhere, then they will think..."what's the point?"

Most people quit because they think comming to the internet marketing world they will get their rent paid off or when their facing some type of financial crisis In the real world and come search up online how to make money online and see all this courses how to make money quick and fast
online and then it gets to them when they purchase course figure out it's actually work like a job to be successful they quit. Because it's something their not used too. But anyone can do it consistency is the key

Of course, I hope that the sooner I start to make money, the better, but on the other hand, I think persistence should be something that is necessary to do everything. But many people are unable to stick to the attitude, which led to their launch soon.

I agree with those saying that Warrior forum is not the benchmark for the level of motivation, etc.

As for the general reasons for quitting, I think that most of us are still hoping to become billionaires overnight. And they jump into the niche, being completely unaware of the drudgery it may contain. Consistency and perseverance are what is going to bring you to the top.

'Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts.'

The primary reason most people fail is they have unrealistic expectations from their online business.

And I blame some online gurus for that.

Most online opportunities are promoted promising fast results, They show the testimonial of people who achieved fast results. So all the beginner start thinking of joining and dreaming about living their job by next week or month.

I used to be like that, But after struggling for few years I realized that it takes consistent effort, time and money to be able to make money online.

Most people overestimates what they can achieve in six months and underestimates what they can achieve in next 5 to 10 years.

My outlook used to be short term in other words I want to make sales now .A big shift took place once I understood the importance of building relationships and providing solutions for people

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You sound like you think quitting internet marketing is always a bad thing.


I disagree.


Sometimes, the best thing someone can do is quit early. People quit for the reasons you and others have listed here. None of you considered the good reasons people quit internet marketing.


Let me give you some examples:
I own a business and think I can increase my revenue by doing online marketing as an affiliate. I try it out and find out that if I am successful at it I make less money than if I devoted the extra time to my existing business.


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I work for a bank and make $150k and have a bunk of benefits. I hear internet marketing can be lucrative. I dive in and figure out that when successful, I can make $200k but have to spend my time by myself in front of my computer and I do not like that. I quit.


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I get started, start making money, but hate every moment of it. I quit.


Many people do quit for the wrong reasons, but not all.



Nuance is useful in life.

Starting out on a new business venture should be treated like a marathon, many hours of training to build up stamina, then the long race to win.
Most people want to sprint, looking for instant results in real life think about the process.

Born, Crawl, Walk, Talk, Run, Canter, Relax, that is a few years right there.

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You have to look at the balances in life. There are plenty of IM-ers that make good money ...

But don't have real friends, love, family, etc.

And not everyone wants to sell stuff. The world needs all sorts of people. Trying to figure it out. Because nobody has ever gotten it 100% right.

So what's failure?

What if I "quit" at being an IM-er but fall madly in love and have a wonderful family?

And some Youtube d-bag has none of that, but $ 100K a month in Youtube $$$?

Is that success?

Lol it's balances. Everything kinda works out the way it's supposed to for the most part. You don't ever have to worry why other people quit.

Their life isn't yours.

Edit: I'll add. I basically stopped being an IM-er since 2015 to take care of my mom in her last years of life. Seemed way more important than having a Bentley or whatever. People have different priorities. It's fine.

Because this type of work is only for people that want to dig into psychology and know an entire system. Aint for the faint of heart. And you don't understand the game until you come to your senses and realize you ain't just building a website. You're touching minds and souls through solid, well-thought-out, creative content. That said, we're dealing with real people that either want to be informed, to be entertained, or persuaded. And if you don't have the stamina to stick it out and serve those people up some dope content, you'll bounce quick. This type of work is either for the stupid or the intelligent. And quite frankly, after 10 years I'm not too sure which category I fall. Cause you ain't ever good enough and there is no beaten path. You simply blaze a trail an improve.

PEOPLE FAIL AND QUIT CAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A SYSTEM

Basically, this is why. Point is that they have been told 2 different misconception:

1) They will become overnight rich, which is obviously false, but deep within people still believe and fall in that trap.

2) They have to put money and work for years, and then after a long time period they see results: meanwhile they got SUCKED inside the guru's funnel and give all their money away to shiny objects.

It's like losing weight: people always are looking for the next magic diet, and do not understand that they have to eat less, change diet and do more fitness and run.

In making money online field is the same: you have to build a list of people interested in your product/service (if there are), and then sell them those services and provide value enough to prove that you're legit and know what you're talking about.

That's all. But human mind is always looking for complicated toys...

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Natural selection. It seems to most newbies that online business is much easier and cheaper than offline. But after they begin to deepen, the understanding comes that in this business you have to work hard, to compete
and to learn constantly. After that, newcomers go to look for another easier source of enrichment.

The most basic reason why they quit is they can't really figure out how they can make things work for them. Proper guidance and support could help anyone to achieve what they are looking to have in their life . Being a teacher I came across multiple students who are learning dropshipping from me and previously they have bought some shitty courses which were not even expensive but didn't even have a basic stuff that they need to learn about the system and how it works .

Most people expect to make serious money easily and quickly but internet marketing is not such a quick and easy way.

One of the major things for most people is hitting an obstacle/barrier. It could be seeing someone on Twitter making mega-money from Affiliate sites or their personal brand which is already 10x more established than yours. Often, it makes you think why you would even bother - niches become diluted and you think that all the clients in the world are already spoken for.

Finding motivation is tough, but it's key for pushing forwards.

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Everyone WANTS to make money online and live the ''laptop lifestyle'' but most people aren't willing to do what it takes to get there.

Motivation can only get you so far. If you lack the discipline to see things through and push forward when it gets tough, you won't go far.

I started my online business almost three years ago, and I didn't see any significant results until a few months ago. I failed many times, but I never quit for more than a couple of days.

My WHY was keeping me from giving up.

You need to know WHY you're doing it. If you don't have a good reason, you will likely give up and fail.

I don't think that ''I want to make money online because it's cool'' is a good enough reason.

Because they are matured and positive minded persons. They have golden heart. They are nice and respectful peoples they are always honestly talk with others.

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It's a tough pill to swallow, but not all of us have the privilege of doing long-term investments.

Most people who quit without actually starting are probably individuals that were tricked into thinking you can make big money from the internet for free-which as most of us know, cannot be further from the truth.

As a digital marketer for more than 20+ years, I've had my fair share of difficulties and was on the verge of quitting myself. I remember one of the first few start-ups I worked for in the early 2000's, it was for a health and fitness app and program. The dude in the driver's seat was a visionary, but we were just scratching the surface of digital marketing back then, we had no clue how to navigate, and there weren't really a lot of resources available to actually help us.

Long story short, the dude got derailed from his vision, and we ended up selling the idea to someone else that actually tried. They made a killing with the idea.

Taught me a good lesson to start now, push forward, and complain once everything's done lol.

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Additionally, some people give up because of fatigue and burnout.

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money loves silent , and its good to be in this way , like keep it in secret and makes money .

i also agree with you and i want to add something here. Most of the people study in colleges for 4 years in order to get a job of 500$ but if you focus on online earning then you would be able to earn 500$ in 5 to 6 months.
So why don't we focus on digital marketing?

I'd say for most people it's because it is a financial burden. I've been doing content marketing since January 2020. I made $400 in the first month and have been chasing my next $ ever since. I've not given up because fortunately, I have an eBay business that has fortunately helped fund pretty much everything ever since. The reason I'm still going is that I believe the investment of just over 1-year of my time and money has to be worth it. I also think that there are things I should have taken on board sooner. Plus also every new thing I learn makes me feel like what I'm doing is a little bit more possible. Seeing others that have done it is also very encouraging.

I guess people give up because of the money. The very reason they want to do it for in the first place. They worry about subscription fees and their own failures. Basically, they don't believe in themselves and they quit because they don't think that they can do it.

Well said!

Most of people think that yes and that's the reason why they work for people who don't give up.

People think if they work online, there will go everything smooth. They are not ready for any failure.

The difference between successful people and unsuccessful people is that successful people go through obstacles/failures and unsuccessful don't.

This is connected to mindset. You either have entrepreneurship mindset or you learn that. And you have to believe in yourself, especially when bad times comes

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It's true , Today's people join such kind of forums by effect by others and after sometime either they change their mind or have some problem . But if you be regular on such forum than you can definitely earn .

If they are not participating more on warriorfoum it does not means they stop internet marketing. some of them join other forums. and some search from google.
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Yes, You are telling true, many people are come to forums and another platform like as Online business as well as affiliate program etc but they are quit and we would like keep these platform for long term because we will learn something So, I will try to keep this forum for a long term.

Why do most people quit?

Well, let me tell you a quick story.

There was this football player (soccer in the US) that I admired a lot. He was flying, was young, dynamic and quick striker who'd score from pretty much all angles. You just had to pass him the ball and he'd find a way to score. Why? Because he used his killer instinct.

A few years later, and he was sold for a huge sum of money to another giant club.

Guess what? He failed.

And the harder he tried, the more he failed. He even went on to miss open net goals. It was horrible.

So what's the cause of all that?

He lost his killer instinct. As a stiker, you have to use your instinct to score. Not logic. Not overthinking. Not by focusing on failures.

It's the same I believe in marketing.

If you lose your killer instinct (or you don't even focus on it at all), you will fail.

As an internet marketer your goal is to focus on SALES as that will get you from point A to point B.

Everything in between is only the driving vehicle for that. But your entire focus should be on making sales and to do whatever it takes to keep the persistency.

This requires discipline, but once you master it, it becomes easy to focus on the things that will actually make you money without overthinking everything or trying to make everything look 'perfect'.

This business is only for people who are unafraid of other people's opinion and are willing to put in the work required to get SALES.

Now, if you want repeat sales it means that you have to over-deliver on value and keep on producing more value down the line.

If you want more REFUNDS, focus on putting bogus content.

But if you want to make more SALES, whether you sell crap or you sell gold, it's going to sell eventually if you learn the art of getting the sale. What happens after the sale, is up to you and your morals.

Best wishes

Many people don't quit, they don't even get started at all.

Reading forums all day and watching youtube videos doesn't qualify you as an action taker.

I would say you're a quitter if you've made $10,000 in a month and you stopped the next.

Or you made $500 today and tomorrow your performance dropped.

I would say you're a quitter if today you cold called 15 prospects and tomorrow you call 0.

You're a quitter if you took action on something and stopped out of fear of rejection.

Winners never quit, and quitters never win.

Man up, do what it takes to succeed because if you don't, you're letting your family down, your children, wife/husband and everyone around you. And most importantly, you're letting yourself down.

Don't quit.

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A lot of people give up easily due to lack of motivation, or no inner drive.

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A failure is an event not a person... Yesterday ended last night, today is brand new day! I learned from Zig Ziglar. I think they should have a goal. A long term goal supplemented with weekly goal and daily goals. That help me a lot strive with my business.

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Online businesses need patience and persistence. People like to jump quickly to fill up walet. It is not easy. Working hard to the right point and sticking to it is really something important.

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Yes, most people quit easily they want everything easily they don't want to work harder that's why they quit easily if you achieve something then you have to work hard for that thing.

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They can't understand so they quit easily. Need to work hard to achieve what ever we need. If everything get easily then it is not reasonable.

Having any kind of success online is rare and very difficult. More than 9/10 SaaS companies that receive funding fail too. Most people would like to make this work, but their wallets tell them to stop.

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