This guy makes $50,000 AN HOUR!

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I just got an email off a "guru" saying he knows a guy, not in the IM niche that makes 50k an hour, and he's going to "grill" him over a webinar. Assuming the guys doing that on autopilot 24/7 that means he's on around $438,000,000 a year.

Is it me or does it seem odd that....

a) He wants to tell everyone about it, and

b) He's bothering to get out of bed and do a webinar?

I've unsubscribed from this guy on the basis that I don't believe the claims and would probably develop a serious drug problem on that sort of cash.

Does anyone make that sort of money, like anywhere?
#main internet marketing discussion forum #$50 #guy #hour #makes
  • 50K per hour is a massive claim and really does need alot of backup if stated
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    • He may have made $50k in an hour (one time) if it was a product launch or something. What he doesn't tell you is that it probably took about a year of work to get to that hour.
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      Call me a skepchick, but to me it sounds suspiciously like one of those claims that turns out to have the same sort of underlying basis as the people who "make $300,000 in one weekend" (those are characteristically more or less the payment for two years' work on something, and sometimes shared with a large number of other people as well). :rolleyes:

      On the other hand, the philosophy of "If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is" is also one I dismiss and reject, I admit, because if followed to its logical conclusion it means that one should wait around for and investigate only opportunities which sound "bad enough to be true", which is hardly going to be a winning long-term strategy! :confused:

      The solution to these scenarios, for me, is to remain interested and willing to investigate, and not be dismissive/rejecting without detailed examination, but from a healthily skepchick viewpoint.
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  • There's a possibility he made it over a launch of some sort but i highly doubt his making that an hour every day of the week.


    Just as cashmagnet said backup is indeed something this "guru" would need to provide.
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    How much does the "guru" make in an hour?

    Please don't allow anyone to increase your adrenalin level beyond normal.

    Focus on what you are doing and get the best out of it - NO DISTRACTIONS!
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    • WOW!

      Those are some great words to live by!

      I love it!
  • Why not? Do you think he's so afraid that others will copy his ideas that he has to hide them? Lots of successful people do books (autobiographies) explaining the details of their success.

    I guess when you make good money you should lay in bed all day and do nothing to prove how rich you are.

    You really taught him a lesson. Next time he'll know not to interview anyone with an extraordinary success story.
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  • ^^^LOL.

    You took the words right out of my mouth. And were wittier than I could be in the delivery
  • Of course you can make $50,000 in one hour. But not every hour of the day, every week, every month. That's just stupid. I can host a seminar with $1,000 seats and 50 people = $50K
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    • Ron I wasn't picking a fight mate. If he made it in one hour thats totally believable but the email said "$50,000 an hour" which to me implied he does this every hour, I may have got the wrong end of the stick.

      Re teaching him a lesson by unsubscribing-I unsubscribe every time I get an email off him but never seem to get off his list, I had a bad experience with him over a refund some time ago. Thats my personal problem. I don't have time to teach him any lessons thats why I've not named him in the thread.

      All I thought was it was a bit extreme. For your information I signed up for the webinar just to see what it is but yes I am skeptical if the claim is he earns that every hour. Not saying it's not possible but it is a bold claim.
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  • If everybody on the Warrior Forum pay me 10$ each then I'll tell you how I made 2.238.960$ over a very short period
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    • I'd be happy with 10$ cents! I have a paypal account
  • $50k per hour is doable.
    But it wont be a long term income I would say.

    Unless its some massively popular product which we all need.

    But $50k in one hour is definetly doable.
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  • Everyone assumes people who make money are too greedy to share their story. THen they question the motives, honesty etc.

    It's really your own money blueprint that is dictating your skepticism.

    The reality is we all know how Bill Gates, DOnald Trump and Mark Cuban made their money but we can't duplicate their success even with every last detail.

    What people need to get over is that their are no secrets, magic beans or other information that will make you rich. Only your actions can do that.
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    • Share their story....or sell it at the end of the webinar? I'll let you know after the webinar.

      Like I said before, making 50k in an hour is very doable. 50k every hour is a bit harder. My money blueprint makes me money. My skepticism is dictated by the fact the guy pointing me to the webinar sold me a c*** course with a 100% money back gaurantee then only offered me half the money back after I returned the product and wanted the refund. I also can't get off his mailing list despite multiple attempts to unsubscribe, whick makes his email spam. I'm not skeptical about life I just simply don't trust this person.
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  • Hmmm, i posted a comment and now editing

    Thanks for the quick clarification.
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    • I wonder what he means by "makes"? If he "takes" that amount per hour, I'd wonder what his costs are.

      What is his real profit?
  • Bill Gates doing a "charity" webinar??
  • I've said in 2 previous posts why I've unsubscribed from his list, have a look back over them. I've also said I will be going to the webinar on this page. I'm also well aware people make $50 an hour and every hour.

    I don't know what the guys company is he's just a "guru" telling me about a guy he knows. Like I said in my last post, I'll just wait for the webinar and find out for myself what it's about.
  • ‎I have received the same email. It says: "He rakes in up to $50,000 an HOUR on a regular basis" Note the words 'up to' and "regular basis" . That to me doesn't imply 24/7 on autopilot.

    Also, it's a webinar and chance to find out how it's done. Why not listen in and find out then decide if it's true or not?
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    • I just re read that and you're quite right I apologise I think my mistrust for the guy because of whats happenned in the past explained on this page caused me to react the wrong way. RE listening to the webinar I've said I'm going to do that in 3 of my posts on this page, including my last one.
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  • Not on this forum atleast :rolleyes:

  • Well, you never know man.

    I personally would NOT have unsubscribed b/c yes, maybe it
    was just a one (or few times) event. So what? It's someone
    who I could learn from if I gave the guy a shot to check out
    this webinar.

    And you know what else?

    What if that person IS making half a billion dollars a year as
    the claims state? Would you kick yourself for not being OPEN
    to the possibility of it being true?

    I would. So, I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet because if you
    know anything about Micheal Senoff, he's interviewed a few
    actual billionaires.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should take what the
    email is saying at face value b/c it's a lot of junk out there,
    but if it were coming from someone who I respect in the industry
    (Frank Kern, Tony Robbins, Etc)...than I wouldn't discard the
    email.

    If you know it's spam -- than yea it's B.S. If not, you made a
    mistake.
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    • Please just go back and read the actual thread. You find out why I unsubscribed and that I am going to the webinar. I've even done some digging around and I know exactly what this guy does now. He's not a gazillionaire.

      Re. "If you know it's spam -- than yea it's B.S. If not, you made a
      mistake" - I have unsubscribed from this guy many times and still get emails from him, that could make it spam. But as I know what the guy does now and I'm going to the webinar how can you say I'm making a mistake?

      Finally, Tony Robbins is an Internet marketer???? What? He's a self help guru.
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  • not 50k an Hour 24/7...no way!
  • yeah and out of kindness he just happens to share his "secret method" for $199...LOL I have a bridge I wantt to sell you...

  • 50k an hour? What a slacker....

    RoD
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  • Never ever listen to such hyped claims, my personal experience says they are full of ****
  • Plenty of companies make over ½ a billion a year. That won't even get you on the Forbes 500. The guy that started Groupon will make over 1 billion this year, his second year with the site. ½ a billion is not that far fetched. I am a bit confused as to why it is so unbelievable. Unless you find it unbelievable that this particular 'guru' had access and was enough of a friend to the person for him to do the 'guru' a favor?
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    • Hi Dogscout.

      He probably can get that kind of money from every property he does a short sale on. His names Nathan Jurewicz, google him. He has an expensive course that shows you how.

      Is that your hat on the dog? I like that hat.
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  • $1,200,000 a day? I am really unsure if I can believe that.
  • There are one man companies selling alpaca hypo-allergic baby blankets doing over that. In some markets, that is not a lot. I AM sure there are some 'undisclosed' expenses, but perhaps not many?
  • It could only be Anthony Robbins!
  • 50k an Hour？ My God.
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    • It sounds, at least at a surface level, that the claim was probably about making that one-off- maybe some big launch of a bigtime webinar. I mean, yes, I have read people making that kind of money here and there in webinars etc, but you don't run a webinar bringing in that much money 24x7 - it happens once in a while.

      Else, this would be a very famous guy - at the levels of Frank Kern maybe?
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  • Pretty cool. Yeah, the person that comes to mind is Bill Gates, he probably did as much as 50k per hour

    Funny fact - in ONE hour that guru makes as much as average worker in Latvia in 8.3 YEARS. So one day of work to him - more than two ENTIRE "LIFES" of usual work to Latvian person
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  • Yeah, I got that email. Was not impressed or motivated to join the webinar in spite of the checkerboard haircut.
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      HAHA I love these threads.

      People are already calculating what the guy makes without knowing how much he works.

      Short sales are always fun. Did quite a few of them before. I love IM more otherwise I would be knee deep in them right now.

      The short sale guru states he outsources everything. That means he works very little. Maybe that will help some of the naysayers.

      I don't know if he does what he says but I still find it funny how people calculate what he would make a year without any info as to what he does.

      I am more interested to see if Diess will convert IM'ers into real estate gurus. I see similarity in both markets.


      Good times!
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  • Hmm.. guru releasing his "cash cow " short selling propert when property is at histyroical lows and been depressed for years. I smell a market bottom in.

    Gurur bails at top masses buy course at the bottom or in this case..

    Guru bails at the bottom.....masses buy at bottom.
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      I have a feeling you don't do much with real estate like these guys do.
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  • Even if you're skeptical investigate the claims made. At the very least you will learn some new marketing techniques
  • I really don't believe it unless you are an oil company who is doing really well.

    I would be very skeptical about this and would not even take my precious time to see what this is all about.

    If someone tells you something like "$50,000 a month", then that is more realistic and are probably not lying to you at all but $50,000 an hour?

    Tal
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    • It is always better to bury your end in the sand, than to open your eyes to see the real possibilities...


      I read something in a book when I was a teenager that has stuck with me to this very day...

      The author suggested that most wealthy people have one thing in common... They all help others to get what the other people want...

      So at a certain point, doing the work is no longer about the money...

      The secret to a fulfilled life is continuing to give to others, even when you no longer need to make more money...

      So long as you maintain the attitude you have now, you might achieve the first, but will likely never achieve the second...

      But if your selfishness gets in your way, you may never be able to achieve the first either...


      If he does one transaction a month, where he earns $50k an hour, he may be the kind of bloke who works one hour a month and gives the rest of the month to his family...

      That would leave him with a measly $600k per year...

      Then again, he might be making $150k per transaction, and working three hours per month to get it... That is fine too, and if he is in real estate, which he is, the sky is the limit...

      I seriously doubt that guy hid behind the words "auto-pilot", because that is synonymous with doing no work, and I am sure this guy will be the first to tell you that he does real work for his living...
  • half a billion dollars per year...? He'd be in Forbes by now, front cover, no doubt.

    I'll say that it's possible for a COMPANY to make that, of course... but there's a chasm of difference between some guy single handedly NETTING half a billion dollars pro rata, and a company GROSSING half a billion per year.
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      I didn't realize you had insight into how many hours he worked?
  • Why bother tell everyone about it if your making 50K an hour. And making a webinar? If I'm making that kind of money I would be jet setting.
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    • here's what I think: in this world anything is possible.
      however, I take a lot of things I read online with a grain of salt and I just focus on making money my way...
      works for me...
  • We all know what 'up to' means, but I usually like a definition for 'regular basis.'

    Once a week is regular, and so is once a month, and so is once a year. In fact, Halley's Comet returns on a 'regular basis,' but I wouldn't want to earn my living based on it.
  • A man goes into the confessional at a church, and says "I am sixty years old. I have been happily married for forty years. But last week, two young blonde girls approached me at a bar. We got a hotel room and had wild, kinky sex for three days."

    The priest says "How long has it been since your last confession?"

    "I'm not here for confession," says the man. "I'm Jewish."

    The priest says "Then why are you telling me this?"

    "Are you kidding? I'M TELLING EVERYBODY!"
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  • If it were true then he would be making more money than Google and we all know how dominant Google is.
  • These threads remind me of psych 101 - the part about Pablov's Dogs.
    Every time someone rings the bell - or in this case, posts that THISDUDEHERE makes XXX amount of money, everyone just starts drooling and going nuts. Why should students have to buy more textbooks when they can just flick up the WF on the classroom screens?
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  • If that's true that he indeed makes $50k an hour and did it on autopilot, that's 1.2 million dollars a day. And 36 million dollars a month and 432 million dollars a year. Really, why would he even tell anyone about what he does to make that kind of money as if he really needs money?

    Just a thought..
  • okay, point taken guys. I'll respectfully bow out of this thread and get back to my wine
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    50k an hour? You would have to be making roughly 750 every minute or selling 7 $100 products in 1 minute?

    Highly unlikely for most but maybe possible as someone mentioned on the second post.
  • I am a short sale investor and I make 50K and hour...if I only count the half hour at the closing table and nothing else. Whatta nudnick.
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      According to this guru that is all he does. Signs at the closing table. Everything else is handled by staff.
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  • Well, so much for steak and kidney pie tomorrow.
  • I recently bought a great book written by a hippie-looking British fella who has been in jail for conspiracy to defraud the taxman, spends most of his day writing poems, and has admitted to wasting 100 million on drugs and women. At the same time, he has repeatedly created billion-dollar businesses out of nothing over the last 40 years, and owns more than 50 magazine titles and other publications. He distilled much of what he has learned about business over the last 4 decades into that book...and I only paid €9.99 for it.

    He must be a loser...
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    • Actually, I can think of worse ways to 'invest' my money
    • What is his name? because I don't believe this story is true.
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  • I don't believe that a person could be so capable that he could make $50k per hour. He is just boasting to grab some attention for some other purpose. I think no one should believe him, if this was true then he must have become the richest man in just one month.
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    • This sounds like an interesting eye grabbing headline that is usually followed by BS information.

      I believe in the tooth fairy too.
  • I'm pretty sure he doesn't make $50.000 every hour, he might have done it during a product launch or similar!

    Don't believe the hype my friend!
  • doesn't make 50k an hour everyday... LOL

    the dude is in the RE niche. they sell via webinars. they sell VERY high ticket programs in the RE niche.

    so.... it shouldnt be too difficult to sell 50k worth of stuff when you're selling products with a 2-10k price tag.
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    • Dave: You were the only one anywhere close...

      The "$50,000 per hour" is not based on Internet sales...

      1. This revenue statistic is not based on Internet sales;

      2. This revenue statistic does not represent money earned during product launches;

      3. This person likely does not work 40-hours per week, like the average wage-slave -- unless he enjoys his work;

      4. The "$50,000 per hour" hourly wage is based on his after-employee costs, and it is based on him spending 30-minutes sitting at the closing table on a real estate deal. His average earnings, after paying expenses, is $25,000 per transaction;

      5. He is doing real estate short sales; and

      6. He is not calculating these revenues based on his "real estate business in a box" sales, but rather the time he sits at the closing table in the average real estate deal...



      ... changed "This Person" to "This revenue statistic" because it was being misinterpreted...

      ... This person does earn money online, but his "$50,000 per hour" claim is based entirely upon his real estate transactions, which he will teach you how to do in his short sale courses he sells online...
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  • Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow, even if its the truth. : )
  • He may made this money only one time.
    For Example maybe he have a list of 50,000 subscribers.
    He send them an email with a product recommendation and he is making 75$ profit with every sell.
    He just need to sell 700 to make $52,000.
    And it is very easy if your list is very much responsive and you made some presell method also to increase sells.
  • We all know (or should know) income claims like that refer to a particular period of time that took a lot of prep to setup in order to hit that mark for whatever amount of time. For example, building a huge list, getting JV partners, creating a product, etc. and then sending 4 emails launching the product with partners and grossing $250,038 in 48 hours or whatever.

    Personally, I think Ryan Deiss delivers some of the best material available from his own products on marketing. I've never grabbed the ones where he promotes someone else's, but when him and Perry are together I always get more gems than my money's worth.

    Now, when do grab a Ryan Deiss product it's not in the mindset of having no money and thinking this will change my life, but rather, from the mindset of "I know I'll get a gem in here I can quickly implement in my current business and make a ****load extra this month... or many months."

    The email you're speaking of turns me off as well, and is definitely speaking to the "no or little money online" crowd... I just delete it and stay on the list from when he targets the more serious crowd. There's definitely a lot to learn from Ryan, and he really does open the curtains when he promotes his "from my experience" offers... there's usually a special bonus script in there that's worth the price alone.
  • George Soros and Steven Cohen make 2 - 3 times that each year. Good luck getting guys of that caliber to do a 'webinar' unless you work for CNBC.
  • The original post is the reason why I don't subscribe to email lists.
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    • 199 replies, it took me a while to read all the replies in this thread.
      I love it when people start arguing on some topic , because lot more information pop out while they are arguing.
      Some people posted replies even without reading the first reply of this thread...
      I would like to give them a suggestion ... please, first learn to read before you write.
      About $50k once or per or an hour , all i want to say is everything is possible if you have dedication and proper knowledge with a willingness to work hard.

      I am sure if anyone earning that amount of money now , he/she had his/her hard time whether he/she is doing Internet Marketing or Real Estate business.

      Now , the reason I am posting a reply in this thread , I would like to say something to this person :
      Dear bro , If that's the reason you are not subscribing to any email list , then I will say you will miss a lot of good offers in your life. ( Am not saying this about only email list , what am saying is , the kind of attitude you are showing that will hold you from achieving something good , no offense)

      I personally have a separate email address which one I use to subscribe to every email list that match with my interest . almost 100 emails I receive everyday on that email address .
      Maybe it sounds crazy , maybe some people will say it a waste of time but everyday I spent 1 hour to read all the emails I get in that email's Inbox . And you know what I have learned a lot of things from all those emails I have read till today .
      You don't have to buy all the products they are promoting but you can take lots of ideas from the way they are promoting and what they are promoting .
      And If you read 100 line of c**ps you will at least find 1 line with good information. And if you are new in this IM world , you should read that 100 line c**p. At least you will get the Idea what is c**p .
      Well that's me and my thoughts .

      Nazbir
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  • its all lies! lies lies lies
  • I made $33,000 in a few hours, does that count?
  • note to all you marketers.... look at the response this thread got from ONE email ryan sent.

    kudos to him
  • food for thought.....
    when i do an offline seminar I usually charge $997 a seat cap it at 60 seats normally sell 50 to 55 at times i sell completely out. so at 50 seats thats $49850.00 for one seminar.
    a seminar lasts 3 to 4 hours but once you subtract the breaks and the meal period I only have to "work" 2.5 to 3 hours tops
    plus the back end sales at times can equal what was made from the initial seminar.

    I guess it makes me chuckle when i hear people scoff at the idea of making huge amounts of money in a very short period of time. Just because you haven't done it doesn't mean that it cant be done.
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    • Well said...
  • $438 million, that is more than the budget of many countries, I would doubt his claims
  • It quite possible. Like Bill Gate for example? However 400mil + a year is insane. Only a few can achieve this level. Wait for another 10+ years and he will be the richest person in the world or can he?
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    • Holy moly.

      For all you guys and girls that have a little problem reading past the first post.

      The guy Ryans on about isn't in IM. He's in real estate, he flips homes, he has a team that does this for him and he probably can make 50k an hour if he can flip about 8-10 homes a day. I was skeptical at first, hence the thread but I'm not now.

      Jtpada- webinars free but you'll need to buy his course to figure it out. If you're not into property and never will, it's probably not worth going.

      evertd- I read this email because it says the guy makes 50k an hour. It's called a hook, it made me read it. Ryans a good marketer like that.

      Kyhell- I know and if you'd read the thread, you'd know I know. I said that already. Read the thread. Read this post, with what he does he can make 50k an hour. He has a team doing the deals for him, he's not a one man band. If the comment was aimed at me, please don't think I'm so shallow that I think just because I don't make 50k an hour no one else can. That would make me the richest guy in the world, I'm not. If aimed at the others who didn't bother to read the thread, well said.
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  • I know precisely who you're talking about. I don't doubt the veracity of this $50,000 per hour figure, but he DOES NOT do this on a regular basis. It's only when he successfully flips a foreclosure property that he makes $50k per hour - signing some paperwork, talking on the phone and closing the deal with the buyer!

    So he is telling the truth, but earning $50k per hour is NOT an every day occurrence for him - it ONLY occurs when he successfully flips a property, which might be just 2-3 times a month!!
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    • Working only three hours a month, for $50k per month... Not too bad for any person seeking the lifestyle of the rich and famous... LOL
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  • I also forgot to mention that the guy pulls in big numbers when he does his webinars (selling his real estate information product on short sales, of course)...coincidentally, they run for about an hour!

    I don't doubt there have been webinars where he's earned $50k, though I'm sure they're not an everyday occurrence either. $50k is actually kind of on the low end for a webinar, as Tellman Knudson has claimed that he has earned $1 million (his all-time best so far) from running ONE webinar!
  • wow...

    spend all your time gossiping about people with success you will never make it yourself - thats the way i see it.

    We can all spend too long thinking about other peoples success and not working on our own.

    I have heard about people making this kind of money - a friend of mine personally knows someone who makes over £1,000,000 a week - when you break that down to a 40 hour work week - thats £25,000 an hour - when put into dollars thats about $34k per hour!! so I do not see why that is not unrealistic!

    It is the internet - so anything can be done... I imagine that the owner of Facebook and the owner of eBay make more money than that!

    I hope that helps.

    Personally I would have stayed on that persons list to find out more lol!
    If you can provide me a link so that i can opt in - I would want to learn more about how to get to that sort of wealth!!

    Thanks
    Ben
  • Instead of trying to pick the guy apart, why don't you instead try to be more constructive (as opposed to destructive) in your approach and dissect what he does in order to learn from him?? It's incredibly easy to dismiss something as hype or scam, but instead of being cynical why don't we endeavor to learn something useful from the actions of these guys?
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    • Couldn't agree more...

      If someone is making 50k an hour - which i think is achievable - then why not learn how to do it yourself...

      The internet is a big place and there is A LOT of money to be made. You just need to learn how it is done!

      Ben
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    • Although, on the whole, I agree with your positive attitude, in this case there are several good reasons for staying away.

      1) Most of us on the WF are not looking to get into the real estate niche. If you are busy truly pursuing an IM business model, you don't have time to pursue every "get rich" niche that shows up in your inbox.

      2) The top two results when I googled the guy were calling him a scammer. Is it true? I don't know, but time to research it is time I could have been working on something I already did the research on, and found to be solid. Nobody has time to do the due diligence on every opportunity that's tossed your way to make a million in your underwear.

      3) If the chances of it being a solid, doable, honest program that could really make you easy gazillions were 50% or better, it might make sense to go ahead and make the time to research it. However, once you've been around the block you realize that there is almost always a very good reason to give it a miss. Why not save yourself the trouble, and stay on track with your current plans. Such emails are good for entertainment, but they bog you down if you catch the fever and actually waste a chunk of your day researching them, before realizing that it was just another *sswipe wasting your time and trying to empty your bank account.

      4) Which leads to the final reason for maintaining my current cynicism about such promos: the higher the claims, the higher the amount they finally hit you for, when they are done giving you the guy's "freebies" that you're advised to take advantage of "before he comes to his senses". In this case, it is apparently around $1600 for his course, and then $200 a month for coaching. (From a guy who may very well never have bought a property in his life-if the scam warnings-[which I admit I won't waste time confirming] are true).

      PS: If you mean, why don't we learn from his marketing, you have to be careful about that. Making huge income claims is an approach that we've all seen and I doubt there is anything all that new about the way he's doing it. If the claims are false, the reason for not emulating him is obvious, unless you aspire to be a crook. If they are true, then we've already learned the lesson a thousand times: if you have a product that really can teach someone to make $50K an hour, mentioning it is beyond obvious, although one must be careful to stay out of trouble with the FCC. Nothing to see here imo.
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  • Yh when I start making that much I will not be doing any webinars, in fact all I will do is Chillax ... sounds like BS with the greatest respect

    John
  • once i made $50,000 in one hour... it's not that tough, it's very easy. Just keep thinking about $50,000 and go to bed... and that night you sure will make that much ... i made it , but then the alarm went on and i got up cz had 2 leave for work :p
  • oh just order the guy a cake from a shop next to his address and get it delivered to him as "congratulations for your success, can you now please unsubscribe me from your list?"
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    Hmmm...let me think, ...you can make 50,000$ per hour if you rob a bank every 8 hours or just a big bank a day.

    This is one solution !
  • No way. Total scam!
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    • No way... Nobody reads anymore? LOL
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  • Do you have the guy's name.
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    • It's all in the thread dude, need to read it, just a few posts back and in quite a few other posts. Well said Bill.
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  • Actually, the statements that have been made about the guy only making his money from selling real estate are patently untrue. I know for a fact that he has a huge email list, and he markets his big-ticket physical real estate course via prerecorded webinars over and over again - he's done this for well over a year now.
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    • Hi Paulie,

      He does make money from property but as I've said before he also has a course on how to do it for sale, I think around $500 but I've read online it's more. Hence, I guess, why Ryans doing the webinar. Thats what the webinars probably about. This guy gives you the low down, then the pitch to buy the course comes along. He makes money from both, just Ryans giving him a platform to sell a whole load more of his courses via the webinar. I never said he just made money from property and I certainly didn't think a free Ryan webinar wouldn't come without a pitch. He's a marketer after all. Can't blame him either. Point is... if you want to make cash with property watch the webinar...then buy the guys course.

      Best to you my friend.
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  • Richard, I wasn't referring to you actually. There are others on this thread that immediately shot down the idea that he made any money from the internet, and that all his riches came solely from real estate.

    He makes really good money doing both, and the really nice thing about raking in money from webinars is that he doesn't need to lift a finger once he's recorded them - all he needs is to replay them every time he invites his list to one!

    Paul
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    • No worries Paulie,

      R.E. "There are others on this thread that immediately shot down the idea that he made any money from the internet, and that all his riches came solely from real estate." I agree with you entirely. In fact I agree with you're entire post.

      Either way, he makes a ton of cash and we know that for a fact. Don't know what time it is where you are but I'm off to bed my friend! Well said in the last post too!
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      I don't see anyone shooting him down in regards to making money online. He has a short sale course that he sells online.

      If the webinar is about the short sale course then making 50k an hour is very possible. I have seen many of his videos talking about his short sale course.

      If the webinar is about him selling his course, then again, it is very possible to make 50k an hour.

      If you actually read what some of us said, we were talking about how people automatically calculate weekly, monthly and yearly salary based on "50k an hour". That is what we were referring to as well as the possibility of making 50k an hour.
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    • Must be talking about my post...


      What was said was that his $50,000 per hour quote was not based on his Internet revenues... Pay special close attention to #6...

      The "$50,000 an hour" was calculated only against what he earns when closing real estate deals...

      Of course he does make money online... That is how this convo started in the first place... He is doing a free webinar to sell his "real estate business in a box" package...

      The post was only made to address the suggestions that this must be a scam, because it is impossible to make "$50,000 an hour", unless you are doing one-off Internet product launches...

      I edited my original post for clarification... Because #1 does make it seem that I was saying he does not make any money online, which #6 contradicted....



      p.s. To the folks who are arguing that he should be famous by now, the truth is that he is probably famous in certain circles...

      Just because you have not yet heard of him, does not mean that he is not yet famous... LOL
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  • pauljyron, he is not just anyone, and I'm pretty sure he is a millionaire as well. If someone like Ryan Deiss vouches for him, you can be sure he is not just some guy off the street making outrageous claims. He has been doing this for well over a year now. For heaven's sakes, please READ the entire thread before making a snap judgment here - he is NOT in the IM niche, and this has been repeated several times in here already.
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  • Wow I guess its doable but itll take some time
  • Thats totally unreal numbers and ones that should not be believed.
    But I really do make $40,000 an hour. PM me and I'll coach you on how to do this for the low price $40,000 an hour.
  • Wow 50k an hour is alot but think of it if this guy is even a few 0's away from the truth thats still mad money lol who is he?
  • well you can make much more than 50k per hour depending on how much you have invested and how and where you have invested, the important thing is ROI, return on investment, not your profit,
  • After reading the posts here and doing my own research, I thought this webinar was going to be about how those two guys Nathan and Chris make their money in short sales. So far (an hour into this webinar)... it's been them introducing themselves and giving their background. They talk about internet marketing. And now they're discussing webinars. I'm kind of disappointed. I want to know more about the short sales, and so far that's not happening.

    Edit: Did more research, and it sounds like they're discussing the pareto sales accelerator (do a search for it on google and you'll find it). I guess they're selling a $1997 internet marketing course on webinars, virtual sales team, and list building.
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    • I think I guessed it right, that they were going to talk about the marketing process they utilize for their real estate short sales course. As they revealed on the webinar tonight, they've actually made more than $50k per hour running prerecorded webinars that are showcasing their real estate short sales course.

      If you're interested in actually learning about their short sales system, you can go here to find out more - Short Sales Riches If you opt in to their list there, you'll receive emails notifying you about their upcoming short sales webinars.
  • I can understand why people get frustrated with all the hype constantly being promoted to us, but with that said these big claims get people talking and now we are even promoting him more lol
  • It's very easy (and all too convenient) to dismiss someone's success story as a hoax, scam and trickery of some sort. If any of you attended the webinar that Ryan Deiss held with these guys, you'll know that they regularly get these numbers (they pulled in over $5 million in information product sales in 2009 alone and are on track to surpassing that figure this year) - and here's the kicker - with the automation tools available today they're pulling in these crazy numbers doing this only part-time! This is sort of a side project of theirs, and they're actually in the trenches everyday working on real estate deals.

    I'm sure we can all learn something from these guys, and I think it's far better to try to pick up constructive tips about what what they're doing, rather than to immediately bury your head in the sand and dismiss it just because you cannot envision this scenario happening for yourself!
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  • $50.000 AN HOUR is possible using a planified Product launch.. this will take time to prepare and put the pieces together. But it worths the effort
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    • Again, not necessarily true. Please take the time to read through this entire thread before jumping to conclusions as to how this money was generated.
  • wow that's so cool!

    a guy on the internet says he makes $50,000 an hour so it must be true
  • It is certainly possible that the claim stands on a legitimate foundation. The problem is with the unfounded extrapolation in order to draw interest and attention.

    When the claims sounds totally unrealistic, it results in those, like me, who don't believe either the foundation or the extrapolated result.

    So let's keep it real.... Please!
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    • There is nothing wrong or unrealistic with the claim, and if you actually took the time to follow this thread you'll know exactly how this money was generated. If anything, they took the conservative approach and threw out a lower figure - if you had attended the webinar you'd have known about the huge (higher than the claim) amounts that were actually generated.

      Unfortunately (as we've seen multiple times already), it's people like you who are jumping on the bandwagon to dispense snap judgments and make unfounded extrapolations about the income earned.
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  • why is everyone telling my hourly income ...

    It could be true, but if he's making it 24/365, I don't think.. that's possible.
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    • No one ever said that he was, Caleb - it's just an unfounded extrapolation that many people are making. Even if he's making $50,000 a week doing a hour's worth of work (I can tell you for a fact that he earns more than that), you wouldn't consider that a disappointing figure, would you?
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  • No, That's an awesome income
  • Is it easy to make $50k an hour for someone just starting out? Maybe not...but armed with the right knowledge and experience, it's probably not as hard as you think, and most definitely not as hard a landing a man on the moon or anything like that!
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  • Seriously, if he is making $50,000 an hour, where is his private island. The tax problem alone would make me buy my own country to keep it.

    Maybe the rich dude is just being kind to his poor friend and helping him sell another get rich fast scheme so the poor guy can buy his own tax shelter.

    I've followed to many guru's over the last 20+ years and they all reinvent their history ever so often.

    You know at the end of the webinar the will be a big sales pitch.

    Good luck and prosperity to all.
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    • Unfortunately, you're making inferences that just don't exist in reality. I know it's human instinct to shoot down something you can't believe or comprehend, but if you had read through this entire thread you would not be dropping a snide comment like this in here.

      No one ever said he was making $50,000 an hour, 24 hours a day and every single day of the week, would it make it more comprehensible/believable to you if he was averaging $50,000 a week doing an hour's worth of work (he makes more than that, FYI)?
  • Not true at all.

    Unless like everyone else said it was because of a huge launch that he built a massive list the past few years.
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    • Please don't enlighten us about your ignorance with a silly comment like that, if you had read through this entire thread you'd have known that this has absolutely nothing to do with product launches.
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