EzineArticles.com - ReSubmit to Other Places?

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I have been marketing for years, but find myself asking stupid quesitons because sometimes I feel I am aiming in teh wrong places.

I have hundreds of articles on Ezinearticles.com

I just picked up Article Marketing Robot
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Should I take teh published articles and mass-submit them? Is it worthwhile?
#main internet marketing discussion forum #ezinearticlescom #places #resubmit
  • My suggestion - and I'm no expert on the topic... repost 'em to other article directories with two links - "For more information go to mysite.com, for the original article, please see ezinearticles.com/original_article" (Obviously not very polished... you get the idea)

    The idea, of course, is to create backlinks to your EzineArticles' article.
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    • Yep this is a really good one. Once you will build links to your ezine articles it will rank easily on Google and that will mean a lot of traffic. Really good one !
    • This is actually one of the better ways to use your articles to get more traffic to both your EZA articles and your website. Don't bother with rewriting or spinning them, however, it is good to change the titles of them a bit.

      Benjamin Ehinger
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  • Hey,

    Khadaji has a great suggestion and i would do that..

    i would also start promoting the articles using socialmarker.com, ping.fm and submitting your rss feeds. I would also create slideshows of the articles and plug them into traffic geyser to get a ton of traffic.

    I would also post the articles on places liek wordpress,tumblr, squidoo, posterous,live journal, blogger, twitter and youtube and use the bestspinner.net *they have a free 7 day trial*.

    Hope that helps

    Luis
  • Yes, it's good to submit them again and make sure it's properly spun and there will be no duplicates
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    • Hi Faceblogger,

      So you're recommending the OP takes his original article from EZA and spins it before submitting to any other article directories?

      Is this because you believe in the duplicate content myth that doesn't exist?

      If I publish an article to my site then submit it to EZA, how come that's OK?

      Also why is Buzzle the only article directory that specifically asks for unique content.

      The OP doesn't need to spin anything before he submits it to other directories. This is a myth and has been discussed by many experienced article marketers, right here, very many times.
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  • This is something I want to know too. If I want to republished my article, do I must have to spin the article or just re-use it for other directories? How old is the article that I can use?
  • interesting
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    • I am am no pro or anything but this is what I do.

      I always submit my articles to 6 others directories with anchor text links back to my original ezine article. On my articles that I have done this on I rank higher than my articles that I have not resubmitted.

      So to answer your question yes I think it is worth doing for the backlinks and to improve rankings especially if you are mass submitting.

      Also try and switch up the anchor text every so often.
    • Of coure,it is!
  • Richard Van -

    Submitting to ezine after its been indexed on your site may lead to them not accepting it.

    Also, spinning + submitting (accord to my research) is stronger than not spinning + submitting.

    From what I understand, not spinning is good but many will not show except the most respected (by google) directory. The rest will not show up in google for the terms. They will provide backlinks, however.

    But spinning makes them unique so they will show in the results and therefore rank for a longer spectrum of terms (since they're unique). Also, because they are unique, their backlinks will be stronger.

    But that is just my thoughts, not sure if its true. But I know for certain there is no dupe content penalty.. but I believe its not as potent as unique content.
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    • I'm afraid Momo that is completley untrue.

      Nowhere in EZA's terms and conditions does it say that. I have done so and never been turned down.

      Look up Alexa Smith, perhaps the best known article marketer here. This is exactly what she says to do and exactly what she has done for over 1000 articles.

      You specifically want to index the article on your site first.

      Don't take that from me, I just have a lot of experience, take it from Alexa, who is an expert.

      This has been discussed here many times.

      How are you defining stronger? Again, don't take it from me take it from an expert. Again Alexa doesn't spin her articles before she submits them elsewhere.

      I'm sorry but this simply isn't true. The PR of the article directory and the "strength" of the backlink isn't based on whatever you submit to them. It makes no difference at all. The "strength" of the link will be the same, "uniquely" spun or not.

      Here's something you can try that's interesting. Google "page rank checker" and enter the URL for EZA. It's high isn't it? Now pick an article on EZA and enter the URL for the page the article is on. When people say the PR of EZA is 6 or 7 or whatever, that doesn't mean the internal pages have anything like the same PR.

      By mass submitting to tons of directories, what you're doing is using article directories to get low quality backlinks. Experienced article marketers want their articles to be syndicated to relevant sites, with lots of interested relevant readers and thus getting a useful and highly relevant backlink. The directory is there for people to find the article and use it.
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    • Banned
      Why, then, does EZA send emails to all newly registered authors opting in for their email series, inviting them to submit there as articles any/all articles previously published on their own sites?

      Why, then, does EZA, on its own blog, invite authors to do the same?

      Why, then, does EZA, in its article marketing course, advise authors to submit there by copying-and-pasting anything they've previously published elsewhere which is of suitable length and complies with EZA's editorial guidelines?

      Why, then, does EZA make available to its authors a special Wordpress plug-in, so that people can publish their articles on their own sites/blogs first, and then submit in identical form for subsequent publication there?

      Here's a thread describing the experiences of someone who recently submitted to EZA ten articles published on her blog a couple of years ago, had them all very quickly accepted and was immediately upgraded to "Platinum", after only a couple of days.

      And here's a longer and outstandingly good thread in which a large group of successful, professional articles marketers explain in detail their reasons for always publishing all their articles on their own sites first, prior to EZA submission.

      For myself, I have over 1,000 articles published on EZA: all of them had previously been published in identical form (apart from the resource-boxes, of course) on my own sites. I've also submitted almost all of them unchanged to a couple of other directories, too - or more.

      To return for a moment to the original question: Buzzle is the only article directory I know of to which one can't submit articles previously published on EZA (there may be one or two others, but they'll be pretty obscure ones, I think).

      In terms of backlinks, there's no conceivable gain in re-writing, amending, editing or "spinning" the articles before doing this. (There may be other benefits, for some people, but the backlinks they get will be identical, whether the article is copy-pasted or completely re-written. If you're going to re-write one, why not make it a new one, and submit the old one as well, doubling your backlinks?).

      Building backlinks to copies of articles published at EZA can, in the long run, be a big, counterproductive mistake.

      This is something I completely avoid.

      I want to build my own sites, not other people's, even if I have my own backlinks on the pages to which I'd be sending traffic and making links.

      With EZA articles, for instance, there can definitely be a short-term traffic advantage to building backlinks to them, but it's the classic case of "the descending ceiling" to do so, and is really short-sighted: it can produce some fast traffic and fast commissions, but every inch you raise yourself up in that way silently lowers the ceiling by three inches and limits the height you can eventually reach. The more you do it, the more certain it becomes that in the long run, you're shooting yourself in the elegantly high-heeled foot and will end up with an article directory permanently outranking your own site for your own keywords (not exactly an ideal way to build a business!).

      Many people do this, because of the potential for a small, fast benefit from it, don't quite appreciate the long-term damage, and end up consigning themselves, almost by force, to a "rinse and repeat" model of article marketing instead of a "building a business" model. At first, there may be a small gain, but in the long run there's a big loss in terms of opportunity-cost. For many people, that's ultimately quite likely to be the difference between making a living and not making a living.

      It's easy to imagine that you're "getting traffic from article directories" when in fact you're actually "sending traffic to article directories" rather than building up your own properties.

      I'm "just saying".
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  • Hi! Hmmm... Google says:
    1. Dofollow homepages share its Google PR to linked internal and external pages... If this were accurate, then:
    Inference: An article submitted to a dofollow article directory, once it has been published and displayed on the article directory homepage as a recently published article, gets some PR juice from the dofollow article directory homepage...

    2. Dofollow pages share its Google PR to linked internal and external pages... If this were accurate, then:
    Inference: The Google PR of a published dofollow article page on a dofollow article directory is shared to internal and external pages...

    3. The number of dofollow backlinks and the Google PR of the pages with those backlinks are included in the search engine ranking algorithms of Google, aside from a lot of factors such as domain age among others... If this were accurate, then:
    Inference: Having a lot of copies of the same exact article published on different article directories under the same author name, called ethical and legal syndication, and again: No duplicate content penalty there, would be beneficial in terms of SEO.

    4. It will be harder for the search engine ranking algorithms of Google to determine how much content did webmasters of a site actually develop themselves for their viewers if --

    a) the site develops content then just syndicates it all over the Internet, or
    b) doesn't develop the content but just legally syndicates content from other sources...

    Based on the results of my tests:
    1. Minimal Google PR improvement for the published article page based on number 1 above, though average to good Google search engine rankings for the keywords targeted by the published article.

    2. Minimal to average Google PR improvement for pages linked by a published article on a dofollow article directory based on number 2 above, though average to good Google search engine rankings for pages linked by the published article on the dofollow article directory after some time, "average to good Google search engine rankings" = particularly for keywords targeted by the published article if those keywords are also targeted by the linked pages...

    3. Good to great Google PR improvement and actual Google search engine rankings for pages with a good number of backlinks on dofollow high Google PR pages under well aged domains, "good to great actual Google search engine rankings" = particularly for keywords targeted by the pages, especially if pages with backlinks target the same keywords -- Noticed a considerable advantage with this "relevance" thing at least on 80% of my test results...

    4. About number 4 above: None of my test results show anything considerably negative, when it comes to Google PR and actual Google search engine rankings of a page linked by a lot of syndicated pages on dofollow sites, and the positive effects in terms of Google PR and actual Google search engine rankings may most likely be caused by numbers 1, 2 and 3 above, though I may not have noticed anything considerably negative because this is probably the pace of the Google PR and actual Google search engine ranking improvement of a page linked by a lot of dofollow sites that published the same syndicated content, but then again: If 2 pages have an equal number of backlinks and the pages with those backlinks also have equal Google PR, domain age and "perceived" domain authority for relevant topics and keywords, I noticed no considerable speed difference of Google PR and Google search engine ranking improvement between a page linked by just a lot of syndicated content on dofollow sites against a page linked by non-syndicated "unique" content published by dofollow sites... By "unique", I'm referring to content found only on a page of a dofollow site...

    These are my tests, results and inferences based on my observations.
  • I find that AMR is most effective for building backlinks, and not really for the traffic aspect of it. If you're wanting to build backlinks to move your sites up in the serps for more traffic, I would absolutely go this route.

    If on the other hand you're looking for more traffic directly from the articles being resubmitted, I'd repost them to hubpages, goarticles, wordpress, blogger and maybe a few other sites as well. For the best impact you should do both.

    The first thing to do is look and see which of your ezine articles are ranked and bringing you traffic. Then you'll know which ones will benefit the most from some extra backlinking.

    Then you can take your article, and put it directly into AMR. There's no need to spin it. When your article is reused on multiple sites it's known as syndication, which is a good thing. It means your content was so stellar that everyone else wants it on thier site too.

    You can write your resource boxes so that you're backlinking just your main site, just your articles, or a mix of the two. You can use spin syntax as well to make it random. If you gather a big list of ALL the sites you want to backlink, you can write one big spun resource box to randomly backlink everything.

    Before you hit the submit button, look and see how many "OK" sites you have. Now divide that by 30. Usually I get a number between 54 to 78. That will be your daily submits in the next step.

    When you hit submit you'll be asked to specify if you want to submit all at once, or over a period of time. Select the number of daily submits from the first drop down menu. The time period is already set to 24. Then hit submit. Tada...slow steady backlinks for a month.

    A lot of people also submit them all at once. If you have literally hundreds of articles this isn't a bad idea. You can do 1 or 2 a day and get lots of backlinks this way too.

    Hopefully that explains what you were looking for.
  • Who said that's OK?
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    • Alexa Smith
      TPW - Bill Platt
      ME

      Are you serious Faceblogger?

      You actually think you know more than 2 of the most respected and well known article marketers on the forum?

      Here are Alexa's own words...

      Which you can read in this thread

      I have heard Alexa say this countless times and it's a well known fact, if you are in any way good at article marketing, that you always index the article on your own site first.

      I think the question is Faceblogger - Where exactly and who says, it isn't OK?
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  • Thanks Alexa, and others. I didn't mean to make anyone mad here. I just said the things I THOUGHT.. didn't mean to to spread any misinformation.

    I have close to 700 articles on Ezine. I guess I better transmit these all over the place now to get some more backlinks.
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  • In regards to spinning and duplicate content, I recently had an offline client ask me to publish a press release on my web site. (He is in a similar niche, and my site is an authority site.)

    He had published this press release several days earlier using PR Web. PR Web ranks well and has large distribution channels, so this release had been distributed far and wide including Google News, etc. There were already hundreds of results on Google for this release.

    I agreed to promote it on my site, but I honestly felt it would be lost in this sea of authority sites that had already published it several days earlier. I made a page on my site, optimized it for SEO, and posted the press release verbatim.

    Without creating a single external link to this page, his press release ranks #1 for the keywords I targeted. The #2 result is the original press release on PRWeb. I just searched today using the exact title of the press release. Google shows 3,050 results. Of the ones I looked at, none of them had been spun or altered in any fashion.

    Granted this is not an extensive long term study. However, based on this experience it appears to me that Google will show the same document hundreds times in their search results, and top ranking does not depend upon where it was published first.
  • I've been doing article marketing for a few years now and I really like some of the ideas here.

    I would definitely spin them, focus on the top 10 article directories, and also leverage web 2.0 property (blogger, wordpress, squidoo...), and create links inbetween them in a linkwheel kind of fashion.

    I also agree with the fact that spinning is not 100% necessary. Get the articles out there and start rockin'!
  • Hey,
    Does anyone know if you can submit articles to a article directory (or anywhere else ) and that directory will post them on hundreds of other sites for you?
  • Go take a look at what Alexa is saying, I know she's right, I've been doing exactly what she quotes, If you were to write an article and send it to say ezine articles, other people are allowed to grab this article and place it on there websites or blogs, as long as they keep your links within, now that could be 100's or even 1000's if it's a fine article, so you're already spread throughout the internet for duplicate content.

    Google know this, if they come spidering and see this article keeps popping up on various websites or blogs, they'll obviously know it's of value and take a better look, maybe manually, this can increase your rankings for they begin to see it's value spread out, viral.
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    • Hi Momo,

      It is a very good idea to resubmit them to other article directories and you don't need to spin them.

      However, you should probably check out the terms and conditions first of the directories you are trying to post to.

      Many of them do not allow content that has already been published elsewhere.

      If there is nothing in the terms of service that disallows it, then feel free to repost with a link back to the original Ezine article.

      The backlinks will help your original articles get a better page rank.
  • Banned
    I've always believed that neither does?

    (They're not article directories, obviously. I appreciate - of course! - that you're perfectly clear about that, Chris: just clarifying the point for anyone who might not have seen them ).
  • Yes Chris, I got something kicked back from Hubpages. The reason they said was it was a duplicate, already found on the internet.
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    • To answer the original question, yes it is worthwhile. I've been doing that with article marketing robot for over 6 months now and have increased traffic to all of my sites through using it.

      I don't spin the articles and I don't place links to any other websites but my own in the author bio, usually one for the home page and another for an article or product page on my site. I want to get my sites to the top of the search engines not articles on somebody elses site.

      Hubpages and Squidoo aren't on AMR so whether or not they want unique content isn't relevant to the op's question.
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  • I learnt so much just reading these articles.. I'm going to make my target very soon
  • Don't quote me on this Chris and I'd recommend finding out with them for yourself but I have heard Hubpages only accept original content now.

    I'm quite possibly wrong there and would recommend checking it out yourself.
  • Lots of good information in the thread. So when is spinning worthwhile (if at all it is worthwhile) because obviously in terms of backlinks it seems there is no difference whether you spin it or not.

    Would it be accurate to say,

    Benefit from spinning and submitting the articles to UAW directories (100 directories for comparison purposes) < Benefit from submitting the same article via article submission software (100 directories)
  • Alexa, I think the reason why some marketers recommend building backlinks for ezine articles is that for competitive keywords, the time it takes to rank the ezine article higher in the search engines is a lot easier than if you were to try it on your own site. But I understand when you say we end up on the losing side in the long run because if you were to build backlinks over time to your own site, you will have more sales since you have complete control over your site.
  • Hi All,

    Fantastic thread! I am SOoooo glad i took the time to fully read this thread. I have simply been wasting my time as well as some of my content. I have content which i have published on my websites, that i was going to "spin" and submit. I think i will need to add these to EZA now.. Unspun!

    I did however try to submit to infobarrel recently and was rejected!!

    The following is their email to me:-

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    • Banned
      Yes, indeed. As stated in their terms of service, previously unpublished content only.

      InfoBarrel is not an article directory.

      Definitely avoid that! You have to have another copy of that article on your site (the originally published and indexed version, for long-term SEO purposes) but you certainly don't want to show it to anyone who's just read it, otherwise they'll immediately think "Hold on ... what's going on here? I've just read this!" and hit the "back" button or close the window.

      I wouldn't normally link from one article to another, at all.

      The copies of all my articles in article directories link to my landing page.

      Those that have two links will have one to my landing page and another to another page on my site for which I want to do off-page SEO and on which I don't mind people landing, but it won't be an articles page (it might be a product review, or information about a product, or whatever). But whichever page it is, it will definitely contain a prominent, incentivised opt-in offering them something directly relevant to the content of the article they've just read, effectively in exchange for their email address.
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  • I love AMR and have had great success with it - submitting unspun articles that I first posted on my site, and then EZA.
  • Hi All,

    Thank you Alexa for taking the time to answer my query

    I now get it regarding the resource box and where we should aim to send the traffic. We send them to our pre-sell page or to another relevant page we wish to do SEO for.

    Once you have your article on both your site and Ezine, do you then further submit the article to other high traffic places and stop there or also then syndicate the article out to even more sites. Reason i ask is i have Article marketing robot and could also use this with my article for further backlinks and a bit of SEO, albeit low value links.

    Chris.
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    • Banned
      I send them, privately, by email, to people who've syndicated one or more of my articles before (having contacted them previously to arrange to do so, of course) and will give them the articles the day before I submit them to EZA. There's a little bit of "timing" involved in it, from my perspective, because in spite of some people finding EZA slow to approve, I submit my articles in the evening and they're usually live/published when I wake up the following morning (and that's without a "premium account" there - the time difference is effectively in my favour to do it that way, as I'm in the UK).

      I also tend to submit to GoArticles and ArticlesBase as well.

      A year ago I actually submitted to 4 or 5 others, too, but I've gradually cut them down with the increasing realisation that there was no real benefit from it at all.

      I wouldn't want EZA to be the only place I submit them (even though, in my case, it's nearly all of the value), just in case a wheel comes off tomorrow and EZA suddenly closes down (almost inconceivable, I know, but it costs nothing to submit to ArticlesBase and GoArticles as well, just to avoid a big chunk of my business being permanently dependent on one article directory and suffering great inconvenience if that should ever disappear).

      Up to you ... they're all non-context-relevant backlinks on PR-0 pages (regardless of the page-rank of the directories' home pages), but it could be argued that even those backlinks are better than none at all. For myself, to be honest, I'd rather use the time spent doing an AMR distribution in finding one or two decent context-relevant blogs on which I might manage to leave a value-adding, constructive comment with a quality backlink which won't be "moderated" (i.e. deleted), or looking through Clickbank's marketplace in search of untouched low-gravity gold-dust.

      One thing I don't deny: there's no likely downside to using AMR for further distribution, other than the time/effort spent on it.
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  • What ever happened to just writing for the fun of it??!
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    • This has been a very helpful thread but I have a couple of questions about anchor text and linking. Lets say I do all the below things:

      1. I submit my article to my site first and bookmark it.
      2. Around a week later I submit the same article to the top 5 article directories.

      After these steps is where I need more help. Should I change the title of the article to help it show up higher in search results and over other articles? Since I have read that having the long tail anchor text first works better: Ex " Learn to Play Guitar Well - Learn to Play Guitar in No Time". Having my blog post look like this would be odd since I like to have my long tail "learn to play guitar well" mixed into the title.

      Also if I am submitting to 5 different sites should I change the anchor text or leave them the same? Like for ezinearticles would be "learn to play guitar well" for one and my homepage would be "learn how to play guitar". I would rather not link to a product review since that product might disappear and I am looking for long term SEO success. Also some of these article sites you can't edit your article when you submit it. So for example goarticles might be "learn to play guitar well today" and "learn how to play guitar online" and so forth or leave them all the same? I only ask this since once again I hear google likes a variety of anchor text pointing to your site but if it's the same article is the opposite true?

      And one last thing is why is it bad to link back with the long tail to the same article on my site for SEO reasons. Granted its the same article but that's the article I want to outrank all the ones on article sites. Since I will also be offering a free report on that page as well I don't think I will see that big of a bounce rate. But I do see the benefit of having many sites linking with the word I want to rank for outweighing the negatives in the long run.

      My overall goal is to have my articles be first in google plus at least 1 of these other same articles from article directories be on the first page as well but not outrank me.
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  • I've been building sites for a few years but actually never got into article marketing which probably has slowed traffic growth. Anyway, I'm about to jump in and glad to have found this thread as It has been very helpful. Here is my question.

    I have a website that is mostly guitar reviews. I pud ads up for the specific guitars and make descent money this way. Reviews seem the way to go as far as converting. In the above statement you said you don't submit product reviews to the article directories. Is there a reason for this like perhaps article directories don't except reviews? Is it just not smart to do it because once they read your review somewhere else they have no reason to continue to your site?

    I guess I wonder on a site like this how could I utilize article marketing? Thanks
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    • I won't presume to answer for Alexa, but here's why I don't submit reviews to article directories...

      You've come very close when you say "once they read your review somewhere else they have no reason to continue to your site?" If I write my reviews properly, the next logical step is clicking to someplace the person reading the review can buy it, and that's usually not my site.

      You can utilize article marketing by stepping back and looking at what your prospects are looking for prior to seeking reviews. What do they want to know?

      In your guitar example, it might be something like which type of guitar to buy - electric or acoustic, steel vs. nylon strings, 6 or 12 strings, etc.

      You can also start the pre-selling process by writing about the desirable and undesirable traits in all guitars. Of course, the ones you review on your site and recommend have most of the good traits and few of the bad ones.

      How about different guitars for different styles of music?

      Bottom line, your articles have two jobs to do - put the reader in the mood to buy a guitar, and rely on you for information about which guitar to buy. The 'which to buy' info is in your reviews, on your site, of course...
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  • hi I always submit to Ezinearticles after Google has indexed them from my site first and had no problmes getting them accepted.
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  • I'm loving this thread.
  • Yes! I would re-submit them! But spin them first!
  • Glad i found this thread!

    Of course! Makes perfect sense. It's MY article. I own the rights. My name in the article directories is ... my name... haha. So the heck with it! It's all good. Let's build some backlinks.
  • I'd be interested to know...

    Is Google going to keep giving you the same quality of link juice for the same article published in 20 different places?

    And if those 20 identical articles target the same keyword, will Google see them as the same thing multiplied over different sites, or as individual articles?

    And will Google pull up all 20 articles when someone searches for that keyword?

    Just asking.

    Sylvia
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    • Banned
      The link-juice doesn't relate to the article; it relates to the "place".

      Again, the link-juice doesn't relate to the article; it relates to the backlink.

      A backlink on a "unique" article isn't worth any more than one on a syndicated article on the same page. People selling spinning software sometimes claim that it is, on their sales pages, of course, and sometimes even in their forum posts, but that doesn't make it true. :p

      In theory not. They try to list only one in SERP's results (they say).

      It seems that about 80% of the time (maybe even a little more?), they manage it, too.

      Multiple copies in the SERP's are less common, but they certainly happen. I've had an article on my own site at number 1 a few times with an identical EZA copy at number 2. (Only temporarily - the EZA copy always disappears from the SERP's some time later).
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